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I reported this yesterday.

Mba should just resign in time except he’s hoping on technicalities.

Who knows, Supreme Court might later ask him to carry on.

omenka:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cub4DrRoqg9/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

https://www.nairaland.com/7757336/20-benue-youths-slaughtered-ukum

That’s a report of your Fulani Masters killing about 20 youths in your Benue while you are fixated on Southeast.

What you are wishing for Southeast is on doorstep. God cannot be mocked.

What they are wishing for Southeast is following them to their backyard and doorstep.

Southeast is now even better because the people are just getting flogged.

Ironically, the people of our “safest region” are now getting kidnapped daily.

Maybe it’s IPOB sha!

According to a serving Senator, IPOB killed people in Kano during election. If IPOB can operate in far away Kano according to Senator Opeyemi “Big Nose” Bamidele, where is Ekiti that they cannot go?

Las las all of go dey alright!

These people should stop this foolishness nah!

Typical of Nigerians (Africans)… once they see someone succeed on something, they all troop to it instead of thinking out new ideas.

But trust me, this one will break his larynx if he tries to do this.

Just like the Cameroonian lady that wants to attempt 200hrs Sex-A-Thon would have a bruised kitten if she even tries it for 20hrs nonstop.

Ndi ala!

Trust me, this is never making front page since it didn’t happen in Southeast (the region they are wishing it burns).

Or maybe it IPOB that kidnapped the man from Ekiti.

Cuz why not, a serving Senator said IPOB caused crisis during election in Kano.

Meanwhile, while would these kidnappers kidnap Afin? Now we cannot hope of him escaping since he cannot see properly.

O wrong nau!

My happiness is that in all of his foolery, Obi has never given this idiotic Omokrikri the attention he so much seeks.

Just like the Igbos are seeing Asari Dokubo as a fool while he wheels his fat piggy 🐷 body around.

Obi will never give foolish Reno the attention he’s seeking just like Igbos will never give Asari the attention he is seeking.

Ndi ala!

Pwettylinda:
NNPC Floating Fuel Station In Buguma, a Riverine Community in Asari-Toru LGA of Rivers State.

I think you should better call it filling station than fuel station because it’s likely what they are selling there is boat fuel and not the regular petrol.

aswani:
Obi's claims boils down to blurred IREV results, INEC can't defend that because that is true. However that is not enough to claim victory else Sowore will turn up to say he won those polling units and anarchy will be let loose.

There are no other allegations against INEC that are worth refutting. That INEC even called a witness still astounds me, same as APC. Honestly, we play too much in this country.

Lol!

I think you are actually a funny character.

So funny how Agbado people are can calling it fake news and labeling Peoples Gazette gutter media.

But they weren’t gutter media when they posted doctored audio of Peter Obi’s phone call.

Tinubu will use his hands to destroy himself before the courts sack him.

I’m sure the North is already weary of him.

membranus:
But Rotimi Akeredolu gave his son a cabinet grade appointment in Ondo State Government, and he is getting away with it. So what's stopping Adeleke from doing. Moreover he has done so by appointing his sister in law as a commissioner.

The kind of goodwill Adeleke is enjoying, I don’t think he would want to sacrifice it trying to do what Akeredolu, who was already in his second term, did.

aswani:
Morning Penguin2, it's a court of law, not a debating panel where the one with the best argument wins.

That's why the petitioner goes first, so the respondent can defend against any worthy allegations made against them.

Another analogy, this time in football. A penalty is given to Enugu Rangers in a match against Sporting Lagos, all the other players wait outside the box for the Peter the striker to take it against Bola the keeper.

He does and it hits the bar and comes back in play, the Sporting Lagos players including the keeper now have to work hard and rush to clear the ball away.

On the other hand, Peter takes the penalty so badly that it goes for a throw in, Sporting Lagos players don't need to do anything but laugh at Peter's pathetic attempt.

But you and I know that the court of law is not a football field, neither can you compare what Obi’s lawyers did in court to a player who played the ball into throwing. You guys should quit with trying to simplify what is happening in court so you can prepare the ground for the judiciary to give flawed judgment.

Let’s take INEC for instance, apart from Obi claiming that INEC deliberately shutdown IREV to manipulate votes in favour of Tinubu, he’s also challenging results of the election in about 22 states. Obi is claiming he won Rivers and Benue outrightly. To buttress his claim, Obi submitted all the forms EC8As, EC8B, EC8C and EC8D for these states.

But what did INEC do? INEC only called a witness who spoke on IREV alone. The implication is that INEC accepted other allegations Obi hipped on them and that’s why they left it unchallenged. Not even a single witness from any of those states to tell the court that Obi’s claim is wrong.

Is that what you are trying to reduce to “playing penalty into throwing”?

fergie001:
It's good to keep hopes alive.

But for me, like I said in May last year and later in Feb, no chance for Tinubu leaving there.

And like I continue to reiterate, I hold a contrary view with you on this.

There’s a chance for Tinubu to be sacked. It might be slim, but it’s there.

Remember when we had similar argument about Abia governorship election…. I told you Otti would win and you argued he had no chance because of where he’s from and because of his poor choice of running mate, and that Okey Ahiwe who became a candidate of PDP in about 3 weeks to the election would still win because of PDP’s structure in the state.

What later happened?

Now, though I cannot claim the sought of certainty I claimed about Otti’s election in this case, I refuse to believe there’s no chance.

Olasyke:
no one cares. Even if he gives her, nothing wey una wan do pass wailing.

Ironically, you have been the ones wailing here.

Since Adeleke sacked Oyetola and your sniffing master from Osun treasury, haven’t you been wailing?

Creamypie:
This man is gone, for nysc to enter e matter in court

I think he angered the NYSC leadership by taking them to court for something he knows it’s fake.

I guess that’s what made NYSC to now carry his matter for head like gala.

The way they pursuing the Mbah case seems almost like a vendetta.

Tinubu Owambe boys said he appointed his daughter.

Liars from the pit of hail.

They lie about everything.

News Flash: Osun is not going back to APC anytime soon.

Just like Abia is NEVER going back to PDP.

I’ve been following that news with some circumspect all this while.

Because I know politicians can be something else but Adeleke has never come off to me as someone that would be that nepotistic considering how he knows such action would be interpreted.

Like, why give your daughter appointment for heavens sake? Are you mad?

If I want to be giving her money every month then I will be adding her money in security votes, not give her appointment.

Oya, Tinubu people, come and see that you have been lying all along. Stop selling lies.

aswani:
No one is saying the case is a non issue, all people are saying is that the LP team have presented a shockingly underwhelming case. There's a difference.

And INEC, Tinubu and APC put up an overwhelming defence?

fergie001:
Are you saying that a senior lawyer like Olanipekun does not know that the APC has no jurisdiction on Obi's membership of Labour Party?

Objections and whatever have to be filed to ensure that something sticks.

Oh well!

We await the judgment of the judges.

But like I told Garfield, even if Obi’s chance is 1% and Tinubu’s own is 99%, I will hold onto that 1% until the final whistle, and nobody can convince me otherwise.

pweeryambre:
Ok sir, but for someone that is being accused of stealing a car should have gotten witnesses and proper back up evidence of the car, such as the receipt (BVA) and the person you bought it from (INEC)legally to defend you na. Just saying that you did not steal the car doesnt give it..
I think we are trying to simplify the case now abi?

Thank you for saying the same thing I’ve said.

These guys are reductionists. Their aim is to make it seem like the case in court is non-issue .

Sometimes I suspect they were commissioned to prepare the public for a predetermined outcome.

IconicR:
Serves him right , I wonder why such an old man would be careless with what he dishes out to the public.

Because it was God’s intention that they be exposed.

That utterance of his further cast the judiciary in bad light and put more pressure on them to try to redeem whatever is left of their image.

basilo101:
Keep that nonesense to your region. We are weeding out the bad eggs

Don’t mind them.

They vote criminals in their region and insist on advising us to vote or keep criminals in our own region too.

After Mbah is taken out, we’ll plan for Imo.

No person of questionable character or that is not capable would ascend leadership position in Southeast again.

sushieater:
Just like a random Programmer that didn't study computer science can't know or discuss programming better than a Professor in Computer science because the random programmer does not have a PhD in Computer science. Yet, I'm the one with a Deficient Intelligent Quotient.

Good luck to you, o ye bird of reason.

I like your analogy; it’s perfect for our discourse.

Now using your own analogy, between you and the SANs in both Obi and Atiku’s legal team, who is the programmer and who is the PhD holder in computer science?🤔

fergie001:
Some will ask about Wole Olanipekun, Lateef Fagbemi and co..... They are all Senior lawyers who are verse in this.

Onyechi Ikpeazu represents APC at the tribunal in Ogun State, Olanipekun represented Ayade when he was in the PDP, Ozekhome represented Matawalle, Fagbemi might represent someone else another day.

This is their job, no emotions ...just their job. Perhaps, something might stick.

I don’t think you got my question…

I wasn’t talking about where they are standing now and where they will stand tomorrow. They are lawyers, they have no side.

What I asked was about the procedural law you have been hampering on…. Are you saying the retinue of senior lawyers prosecuting Obi and Atiku’s case do not know this thing you are talking about? Like none of them in the legal team of either side could remember it or advise them on if things were strictly the way you are presenting them?

helinues:
I have told you to stop accusing me wrongly, regarding @ emboldened. Wasn't just interested in the discussion.

Back to the topic, so na politicians charade una dey dey emotional about? All politicians have dirty linens including the person challenging Ubah

Then tell Mbah to present what he can find on Edeoga or simply get out.

helinues:
Make una leave Mbah alone

If you guys tolerate forgery, we don’t.

Look at you saying we should leave somebody that forged his certificate alone.

But you were at the forefront of condemning Ejikeme Mmesoma for allegedly topping up her JAMB result.

Again you will turn around to defend Tinubu’s forgeries.

Why are you people like this?

Remember that we are still talking about Mbah’s NYSC certificate.

We have not gone into the massive over voting and vote manipulations in Nkanu East Local Government which he used to get himself declared.

Mbah is a criminal and an interim governor.

Similarly, the Law Firm that initiated the investigation into Mbah’s NYSC certificate was also in court to submit the letter they wrote to NYSC.

The law firm also submitted Peter Mbah’s appointment Letter as Chief of Staff to Governor Chimaroke Nnamani in July 2003; a time hhe claimed he was doing his NYSC.

After Justice Inyang Ekwo failed to grant a restraining injunction against the NYSC, the Service today appeared in Enugu Governorship Election Tribunal to testify against the governor to the effect that the certificate he’s parading did not originate from them.

Things are not looking good for the Enugu governor at the tribunal.

Nlfpmod
Mynd44

fergie001:
You cannot divorce the Courts from political expediency. Not just in Nigeria but all over the world. Even in the US Supreme Court, you can see the shift towards far right decisions.
The Judges are product of this same political expediency because it is the politicians who nominate them to be there.

That is not to say they will not follow the path of legality or constitutionality, they will do their best to see how they can balance it up.

Now, I will go to the meat of the case...


People tend to elevate this report.

The 1979 Constitution had no special status for the State Capital but this Committee pressed that some status be created for the FCT.

Several Govts have failed to recognise that because the FCT is seen lower than a State. Others have 3 Senators, the FCT has 1. Unlike States, the Executive and Legislative powers of the FCT are vested in the President and National Assembly respectively.
This culminated in the Court of Appeal case between Musa Baba-Panya v President, Federal Republic of Nigeria;

See the judgement:
It is therefore, doubtlessly clear that by virtue of Section 299 of the Constitution of the Federation, the Federal Capital Territory is in law a State. In others words, the Federal Capital Territory should be treated as one of the States in the Federal Republic of Nigeria."

What does 299 say?
Section 299(1) of the 1999 CFRN:
The provisions of this Constitution shall apply to the Federal Capital Territory, Abuja as if it were one of the States of the Federation;

In Ibori v Ogboru (2004), the Court of Appeal opined:
.....the Federal Capital Territory is to be treated like a State, it is not superior or inferior to any State of the Federation”.

The Constitution should never be read to say what it has not provided, even though it should be liberally construed to giving meaning and effectiveness, so as not to have embarrassing anomaly that can result in vacuum of any office or cause serious crisis in the polity. (Belgore JSC as he then was in Buhari v Obasanjo.

HOW DO YOU EXPECT OUR COURTS TO SUBJECT THEIR JUDGEMENT TO A COMMITTEE SET UP TO ELEVATE THE FCT TO THE STATUS OF A STATE BECAUSE OF THE CRIES OF THE MARGINALISED INDIGENES NOW TRY TO ELEVATE THE FCT ABOVE THE OTHER 36 STATES because of a seeming AND

I am curious.


Too much of ifs, what if what if?
The FCT argument will cause more problems than solutions if not now, later..... So I don't want to go too much into it.

No run-off will exist because of FCT.... I won't say much on that.


Was Tinubu CONVICTED in 1993?


We are talking about a criminal allegation which must be proven beyond reasonable doubt.

Is PDP the maker of the document?
How can your certificate be authentic when the gender is allegedly not?
It is contradictory.

The maker is expected to testify, this has been chorused many times.

How did they get the CTCs?
Who is the maker of that document?
Can you get the CTC without the maker of that document certifying and clarifying that the document indeed came from them?


His picture is on the alumni booklet of CSU, and we have seen them before now. Calling CSU will have helped us solve this issue.


Even if PDP is contesting the gender, are they not supposed to call up the maker of the document?

Any alteration or seeming forgery should evoke calling up the maker of the document.

Failure to do so, is tantamount to dumping papers on the Court and expecting the Justices to do a Jack Bauer.

In Atiku Abubakar v INEC, Buhari & APC.... The SC said this:

The version of the law I know on the subject (i.e. if there are other versions) is that when documents are tendered from the bar, such documents have no probative value until the makers of such documents are called to testify on the document and are subjected to crossexamination on them. It cannot be as argued by the learned silk for the appellants above. Whether it is a certified public document or any other document, the need for the maker to testify and be cross-examined on it has not yet been jettisoned by this court.

The court is not permitted to go home and interrogate those documents privately in the inner recess of its chambers. This will amount to shopping for evidence, thus descending into the arena of the conflict. One wonders how the appellants expected judgment to be entered in their favour when they failed to do the needful in respect of those documents which were the pivot of their petition.” (Tanko Muhammad CJN as he then was).

This should answer the question.

Let’s just wait for the court to rule.

But I will ask you the question I asked Garfield…

Are you suggesting that Obi and Atiku’s lawyers do not know these things and that you know about Election prosecution more than the retinue of SANs from Ikpeazu to Uzoukwu to Chris Ani to Ozekhome, et al?