₦airaland Forum

garfield1:
You are seeing it clearly.the oba can only support akpata discreetly he won't come out openly

Of course! None of the first class traditional rulers has ever supported anyone openly.

Not even Sanusi was as direct in his support for Abba in 2019 which later cost him his throne.

But agreeing to commission Akpata’s project in this point in time speaks louder than even the Oba appearing on CNN to endorse him.

The people of Benin will vote Akpata.

JASONjnr:
Iran will lose...

And the West wanted this to happen so they can cripple Iran... And Iran fall for it.

Recall when Major General Qassem Soleimani died in a US drone strike in 2020. Iran was cautioned never to confront US. The attempt to fold them up failed. Now the Israel war will make it easy for the west to act!

True!

It’s the way Israel deliberately allowed Hamas to invade their territory so they’d have the justification to decimate them, that’s how they’ve lured Iran into swallowing their poisonous bait.

But I think the world wants to deescalate rather pursue war.

We’ll what happens in the coming hours/days

ruggedtimi:
I dont really know much about islam...but the few history books i have read on islam...Those sunnis have so much hatred for Shia muslims right after the death of the Prophet. They fought several wars amongst themselves. In modern times they almost dont see Jews as their enemies anymore. Have you heard Saudi Arabia or kuwait conderm Israel since their attack on Gaza?
Aside from sunni / shia beef...Iran also wants other islam nations to adopt theocracy and thats definitely a threat to the Saudi/ UAE royal family.

Insightful!

Unfortunately, some gullible Nigerians are praising Iran thinking they are fighting Allah’s fight without knowing that Iran is simply on an expansionist mission for her own ego.

Iran has to lose!

blacknp:
Last time Tinubu was in Benin as a commoner they mocked him, No honor amongst thieves, Godwin Obaseki stole their mandate, he will report to Ecowas when he sees what APC will do in Edo State to claim their mandate back.

Obaseki & his faction of Pdp will see outright rigging, intimidation, electoral manipulation backed by the judiciary, whatever you want to call it, like I said no honor amongst thieves.

You see the kind of thing you are taking pride in?

Spoilers alert: APC will come distant third in the Edo election.

Quote me after the election.

garfield1:
Yes even if akpata had a deal to step down,he won't as it will destroy his reputation for ever.i think pdp are now intimidating him to step down.
Which feelers are you getting please? Which consensus,by who? Even without being told,you know Edo central is divided.but if you
look deep, okpebholo is far more preferable.he has several projects in Edo central,a great philanthropist,was a disciple of late anenih who they love,his late father was influential.whether you like it or not,a lot of the local people take language factor seriously.is Edo more literate than anambra or imo whose governors speak and understand Igbo fluently? One of the reasons obi was picked in 2003 was because of his philanthropy.ighodalo doesn't rate his people.i was born outside CRS yet I can speak 4 CRS languages because I developed interest.even Lagos took the culture issue in the last guber poll.
Watch okpebholo campaign and see the love people have for him,how he relates with the young and old.from my indepth analysis,if care is not taken,he will win 4 out of 5 esan lgas.apc is very solid in esan south east of ighodalo.but worst case scenario,i am giving him 2 lgas and 40% knowing that lp will get something in that 60%

What I could get out of this is that in the end, APC and PDP might end up canceling each other out in Edo Central while Akpata gets bloc votes from the South and make up numbers from whatever he’s able to get from the Central and North.

LP didn’t miscalculate after all. And just imagine Akpata had a more popular running mate, things would have been easier.

garfield1:
True if akpata goes on a rerun against APC,he will win as pdp will prefer lp than APC.if he goes against ighodalo,he will also win as APC will prefer lp winning than obaseki stooge winning.i think lp only path is getting the highest votes to force a rerun.
Akpata miscalculated by choosing a useless running mate.he should have chosen a more popular politician like sergius Ogun or the rice man or even from the north he could have approached strong men like alimikhena or adjoto.in politics, you will have to align with people you hate to win.this is where APC is the best.tinubu and buhari loathe each other but aligned to get power.okpebholo wanted hon ihama but reluctantly choose idahosa inorder to brighten his chances.

You are not from Edo so you cannot say the people don't want to vote APC.they might not like APC but it is not as if they like pdp.edo people may not like APC as a party but their best governor was from APC.they do not like godfatherism which pdp represents and a lot of people secretly admire okpebholo for defeating oshiomhole.
The 2023 elections showed that they are ready to vote APC if they bring the right candidates.you said okpebholo won through zoning.hon okojie had more votes than lp and pdp combined to win a rep seats in esan.is that zoning? The then speaker onobun won APC by less than 1000 votes after a rerun.out of the 5 assembly seats in esan,APC won 2 massively while pdp won the rest narrowly.same thing in the north.ss don't like godfatherism.bayelsa in 2019 hated APC but votrd lyon.that is what will happen even if it means voting lp

Akpata miscalculated big time in his choice of deputy and I’m surprised he did that.

Sergius Ogun for instance is a brilliant and refined young man that would have come with a lot of political capital.

Rice Man too seems to have his little weight to throw around but Akpata ignored these guys and chose a non-entity. He hasn’t won the governorship and prioritizing someone who wouldn’t give him headache in power.

Or is it that he wanted to appeal to female voters? If that was his aim, I’m not seeing it happening because the woman he chose seems like she can only bring her own vote alone. It’s just like Datti to Obi’s ticket.

But I just saw a video of the Oba of Benin opening Akpata’s project yesterday. You know what that means? That’s a tacit endorsement. And once the Oba dispatches instruction for Benin people to vote Akpata, not even Idahosa nor the SSG running mate to Asue can change anything.

Fingers crossed sha!

garfield1:
Oga,anambra is the last place APC can win so why are you bringing it up? You still don't understand my modus operandi,I usually make two type of predictions,the sure banker and wishful thinking.just like you want APC to lose,I want them to always win.
If you follow anambra poll,I wanted apga to make a mistake or field someone else apart from soludo because I knew he will win.towsrds the end,I now wanted APC to at least beat pdp.andy ubah couldn't win senate poll in APC so how was he going to win? I never remember saying APC was going to win.eveb in osun,I said the election was right.i never called it clearly.even in bayelsa,I said sylva could only win if he win certain lgas meaning I wasn't certain but I called kogi and imo clearly for APC....

Pdp have five strong politicians in Edo south which are ihama,urhoghide,uzamere,ogie and iduoriyekemwen and one has left.he is a two time senator,the last pdp senator in edo.i have told you that ss politics is different from SE just as SW is different.in the SE,you guys are independent minded but here we are not.money and party matters.strong politicians have large structures.i told you obi won't get bloc votes here neither will he win bayelsa or ask,I know my SS people.even if urhoghide does not defect,it is advantage APC.are you more wiser than obaseki that begged wike?

Only three things can make pdp win edo.firstly,they must inflate Benin votes and prevent APC from inflating Edo north but this is difficult seeing that apc is interested in Edo.
Secondly,obaseki making a secret pact with oshiomhole or asorock but unfortunately he is hostile to aso rock.thirld,he must get akpata to step down from the polls

Of the 3 suggestions you have thrown up here, the one that would give Asue instant hope for victory would be getting Akpata to step down which is nearly impossible because I think Akpata is serious about his candidacy.

Meanwhile, as you are analyzing PDP’s dim chances, you are forgetting APC is not any better.

Feelers on ground shows Edo Central is not going to vote Okpebholo. They seem to have a consensus around Asue. Now, if Okpebholo is not sure of at least 50 or 40 percent of votes from Edo Central, where is he going to make up the numbers?

And talking about APC rigging Edo North, you talk as if PDP is a small party that their votes can be taken just like that and with a sitting governor.

JASONjnr:
I've noticed the support given to Israel come mostly from the Sunji sect.

If this goes beyond this limit, I pray it won't lead to world war as allies are being summoned to assist. Israel summoned UK as it's allies for support....

I believe this war will have Russia siding UK or staying neutral.

Israel doesn’t even have to call on the UK.

These guys, US, UK, Germany, France, etc, will naturally fight on the side of Israel anytime any day.

The thing is that Israel is the eye of the West in the Middle East; and a buffer between the Islamic Fundamentalistic States of Iran and their cronies.

The only thing preventing Iran from going for the rest of the world is because Israel is still on their way. The day Isreal falls is the day Iran will become unstoppable because there would no longer be gateway for the West into the Middle East because Iran will bully other countries into submission.

Iran has to lose!

garfield1:
Oga,don't be deceived.if obi could not win a single lga in Edo north,akpata has no chance.but lp has supporters in Edo north around auchi and akoko Edo I guess.one day,you will meet 5 jigawa people telling you obi will win there and you will believe.
I never said thevpalace being against ighodalo will work for apc.i mean that the more lp gets stronger,it favours lp as almost all their supporters prefer pdp to APC.
Look at the assembly results.assembly elections are easily rigged by governors.obi wasn't on the ballot but from my findings,lp actually won Benin but was rigged out except in Oredo east.pdp narrowly had to brutally rig Oredo west to win.they needed a rerun to win Egor and ikpoba.this clearly shows that lp has grown beyond obi in edo.those lp candidates that were rigged out are not as popular as akpata.it simply means edo south has accepted lp and will vote whoever they present.the question remains of how they will perform in central and north.lp can even get the highest votes without getting the spread

The spread is where I think Akpata miscalculated. Because I really don’t understand the political capital that the woman he chose as running mate is bringing to his ticket.

But should LP get the simple majority and fail to get the spread and things go to run-off, you know it would be easy victory for Akpata especially if he’s up against Okpebholo.

See, I don’t think Edo people are ready to vote APC again.

Seems the war is becoming a conflict between the Sunni Muslims (Saudi Arabia, Jordan, etc) and Shiites (Iran, Yemen, etc).

One of the worst things that happened to Islam is this fierce ideological difference between the Sunnis and the Shiites.

Not even the ideological differences of the Catholics and Lutherans of the Medieval Period comes close.

Are they ever going to have a common ground?

Is that why we have been placed in Band Z?🤔

People who only see 5 seconds of light in one week🤦

It will never be well with Tinubu, Mahmoud and their fellow gang of criminals.

The fools have no idea of what to do with Nigeria but went ahead to grab power, snatched it and ran with it.

We are waiting for una in 2027 sha.

garfield1:
Oga,why are you comparing wrongly? Has APC ever won anambra ? Apc is non existent in anambra save for sen ubah.Does apc have a foothold in anambra? APC never got a defector in the calibre of senator urhoghide in 2020.this is a massive blow to pdp.
You still forgot that buhari camp was backing obaseki and Edo pdp was united.obsseki had the sympathy of the people,he was going for re election.all these advantages are gone.apart from the sterling CV of ighodalo,he has nothing going for him....
APC does not need to rig,they have the advantage already.they will only rig if pdp tried to rig which I suspect they will in Benin like they did in the assembly polls

You know all this yet when I was telling you that the defections in Anambra will not change anything you were arguing with me?

The Anambra election should have taught you that being a heavyweight counts for nothing if the people don’t move with you.

You are a southerner but you are always reasoning as though southerners are northerners who move with their political benefactors whenever they defect.

Down south, whenever a political heavyweight moves to where the people don’t want, they allow him go alone and they go where they wanna go.

All I’m saying is don’t celebrate Sen. Mathew’s defection to APC, it might change nothing.

Heavensent01:
Okay obi will win 2027 then, south south and southeast will vote for him and the borehole states

Who won Nasarawa?

Who won Plateau?

Who won Abuja?

Tinubu won Benue by 3k votes margin.

Obi got over 300k votes in Kaduna.

So, what do you mean by votes of Southeast and Southsouth?

garfield1:
You are here.akpata is not weak,he has been a national figure even before the APC and pdp candidates.yes,I won't be surprised to know oba is behind them since his relatives are close to him.
Ighodalo clearly said he will decide what to do with the Benin artifacts instead of returning it to the palace same mistake obaseki did.he also said he will support the creation of a parallel traditional rulers council.theres no way the oba and the palace will support him.again,a lot of bini people are very traditional and will not support obaseki candidate for this.like i told you,pdp is making it easier for APC

You can’t be certain it’s APC that will gain from it.

The man I talked with is from Edo North. His name is Momoh. He told me LP has supporters even in Edo North (I was surprised to hear that). He said the reason Oshiomole won the senate was because LP gave their senatorial ticket to someone they didn’t like.

On Olumide, he said Obaseki has been in court with the Oba of Benin for a while now and Benin people hate anyone challenging their Oba. So you might end up seeing a situation where the whole of Edo South might vote in bloc for Akpata.

The Edo election is beginning to be more unsure for anyone. I guess I was wrong to think Ighodalo would have an easy ride.

garfield1:
Penguin2,you see how desperate and bad obaseki is? Two days ago, oshiomhole campaign trail was attacked in etsako.it is obvious obaseki has sensed defeat and is panicking

I don’t even know how to react yet until I get clearer picture of what happened.

But I spoke with a man from Edo who told me none of the 3 candidates is a pushover.

Akpata might not be as weak a candidate as we think. I think the Oba of Benin is behind him.

Ifeanyi Uba will never govern Anambra.

And Soludo is a one tenure ijiot.

garfield1:
Another massive blow to pdp.it is over for obaseki and his stooge

You still haven’t learnt that all these defections don’t help APC in anyway.

I thought you would have learnt from Anambra where you people even purchased a sitting Deputy Governor but still came third.

Edo People know who they want to vote for and no defection will change that.

I know APC is planning to rig but let’s see how far they can go with that.

Heavensent01:
Their votes were divided, this make them a very sensitive geopolitical zones, not putting their eggs in one basket unlike southeast that abuse, hate, make their politicking obvious with their ranting and wailing online



Igbo have the probability of getting Biafra than being Nigeria President with their kinsmen too much hate and toxicity, if there corrupt politicians like other region in Nigeria can push for their exit



So Yoruba that Queue to vote for obi in Lagos will see you abusing his tribe and leaders will still go and queue for you again in the next election? Except if they're daft

Divided? How?

Obi won in
1) Delta
2) Cross River
3) Rivers
4) Edo

Atiku won in
1) Bayelsa and Obi came second
2) Akwa Ibom and Obi came second.

Now, I ask you again, who did South South vote for? Who won the region?

We know who will lose in this war and it’s not Israel 😏.

koboko69:
Wake up! IREV is just a viewing portal. Enough of the IREV noise. In between the numbers from the SE were all clean right? You may actually have low cognitive abilities for real

So why couldn’t we view with your “viewing portal” on Election Day?

Doesn’t that constitute an infringement?

seunmsg:
SE is not where SW was in 1999. Before 1999, a Yoruba contested and won a free, fair and credible presidential election against a NW candidate. Unfortunately, the head of state as at that time from NC with the backing of SE and NW political elites ganged up to annul the election.

SW singlehandedly fought the military for the restoration of the mandate and the return to democracy. It was in the light of this that northern elites minus SE elites decided to back the SW for president. Despite the mood of the country back then, SE still insisted on not conceding anything to the SW. Alex Ekwueme insisted that the PDP ticket should never be microzoned to SW and he participated in the primary till he was roundly defeated.

In APP, Ogbonnaya Onu also insisted on the conduct of the primary election and won despite the agreement between APP and AD to fly a joint ticket with a SW Presidential candidate.

So you see, the circumstances were different as SE have no mandate stolen from them like the SW had in 1999. Again, despite the above, SE never conceded anything to the SW. They competed actively against SW candidates and lost. In fact, SE elites sponsored an article titled “No to Yoruba presidency” in almost all the print media as at that time.

Finally, Ogbonnaya even though a good guy was of no significant value to APC. He brought absolutely nothing to the table in terms of votes to the party. In an election in which PDP already chose Atiku Abubakar as her presidential candidate and LP and SE already adopted Peter Obi as candidate, it would have been extremely foolish of APC to adopt a candidate like Ogbonnaya Onu with no political base and electoral value. Dude would have lost his home state and region to Peter Obi before 9am on Election Day. Don’t let’s even think about how he would have performed in the north and SW.

Good points!

The annulment of Abiola victory in 1993 was a good bargaining chip for the Southwest in 1999. But you would equally agree that the elites could have chosen to ignore the pleas of the Southwest and nothing would have happened.

Meanwhile, while it’s true that Ekwueme insisted on contesting the PDP primaries, Obasanjo didn’t win the ticket out of his superior politicking but because of elite consensus to give Obasanjo the ticket which saw northern party delegates and their western counterparts team up to deliver OBJ.

Now, while the Southeast may not have had an election won by their son annulled, if you remove biases and sentiments, you’d agree that the region seems to be kept out for a long time and it has gotten to a point where the elite consensus that was made for Southwest in 1999 ought to have been done for them in 2023.

But I have come to agree with you people that power is not given but negotiated and fought for (snatched, grabbed and ran away with) which is why I’m blaming southeasterners slaving for APC and hoping power will be handed to them. Following your argument above, isn’t it obvious that they are wallowing in foolery like I asserted above?

HeroicMeastro:
If he was given the APC ticket in 2022 and he eventually won the presidential election, we would have been mourning now. The country would have had another death leader on power.

If he was president, his health would have been better taken care of.

He’d probably still be alive.

Heavensent01:
If all those your mentioned didn't get close to the post then it's not about them, it's about them being an Igbo


Other Nigerians are scared of you Igbo, even south south will have a second thought with you, so stop crying and fooling around



How can you trust people that hate, abuse and insult a tribe and started loving them on the eve election, if that's not treacherous then I don't know what I will call you

Sorry, who did South South vote for in the last election?🤔

slivertongue:
no need for these long tales. An igbo man was VP just nine years after the war. it's wasn't Igbo votes that put him neither was it igbos that put him there. There were forces against the choice of Ekwueme as VP but we stood strong. The day will come for Igbos and it won't be there votes alone, it will take them too by surprise. So calm down Obi has shown what a pan Nigerian can be.

Of course I know that it’s not the votes Igbos alone that’d make an Igbo man president.

But we saw the 2023 elections. We saw that Obi won but they took it from him.

So, you see that it’s not about the votes, it’s about the elite conspiracy against the Igbos.

LOVEALAIGBO:
Word!

This Umahi reminds me of Rotimi Amaechi! Both slaved and were/are subservient to the Fulani/Yoruba hegemonic alliance, and Umahis’ story is not likely to be any different! Notice the way his masters are praising him for being a ‘useful idiot’, but as soon as he wants to contest for president against their non-Igbo choice, they will remember he’s Igbo! You already read posts on here from the usual Igbo-hating Tinubu minions who cockily and arrogantly decree that when their godfather has done his eight years, it will go back to the north (don’t bet against them not choosing yet another core north muslim male), and when he’s done his eight years, they will pick a south-southerner! The way they tell it, a Igbo will be president when hell freezes over and lucifer converts to Christianity!

Umahi thinks his case will be different.

But that’s the same mindset the idiots before him thought.

Amaechi thought his case would be different because he was close to Buhari.

Onu thought his case would be different because he had been with them since 1999.

Okorocha thought his case would be different because he grew up in the north and has done a lot of things for them.

Orji Uzor Kalu had same mindset.

Where are these guys today? Irrelevant!

Yet, instead of them to rally round somebody like Obi who is closest to the presidency since the 1980s, they’d rather sabotage him.

Very foolish ijiots we have as elites.

Na this “convincingly” dey always vex me.

This people and their supporters think we are goats with low cognitive abilities like their sheeples.

You fools shutdown the IREV and conjured numbers, that’s how you won.

Ndi ala!

sreamsense:
And who are the world powers that are supporting Iran? Are you still revering to Arab leagues that only Isreal beat and won six of them that faced Isreal at a time and even seized their lands? It maybe you are just joking, so I will advise you move this thread in commedy section. If there is any trace of Iran on the map again after their first attack on isreal, come back here to tell us where Iran can be located in New map.

Isreal that already mapped out everywhere they will bomb in Iran and erase in few minutes with high precision. That is how many of you pushed hammas to destruction. Those hammas that danced for evading Isreal have been deleted from the land. UN and propagandas will not safe you when Isreal descend on your iran. Isreal an US that are monitoring everything in Iran as you come here to rant online. Iran can not press second button, before Iran is deleted

Lol!

Leave the guy to live in his delusion.

He’s talking about passionate Iranians fighting…. who will engage them in a fight?

Like you said, which is also a realization I came to recently, Israel is not just a country of its own, it’s the eye of the West, not just America, in the Middle East.

The world, US, UK, France, Germany, etc, knows that Israel is the one only one keeping those fundamentalists in the Middle East in check and is therefore the gatekeeper or a buffer between Iran and the rest of the world.

Iran has not come for the world because it’s still battling Israel. The day Israel goes down is the day the world will be sorry because Iran will bully every country in the Middle East into joining their war against the world and that would make the region impenetrable and a haven for terrorists and terrorism.

That’s why the world can not let Israel lose. Instead Israel will lose, every rule of engagement will abandoned and Iran might be exterminated from earth surface. And this is not a threat nor conjectures; it’s the reality of things.

successmatters:
You have an option, support criminals instead.

Go ahead. We are all enjoying the criminals leading you.

He’s being sarcastic

tunjilana:
I dont know if you are just being mischievous or have limited understanding of Nigerian Politics. Truly Onu is of the opposition block (APP, ANPP and later APC) he stood firm but reason critically, when APC was formed, how much political and electoral value did Onu's constituency the South east contribute to the success of the Party versus the southern candidate that finally emerged.

The big question should be why did Igbos not get the ticket in PDP where they have slaved and aligned since 1999, why didnt they rally round and speak with one voice behind Obi to get the ticket in PDP

Why do you like blaming others for your lack of political tact and coherence

How much political capital did Southwest bring to the PDP in 1999 before the party’s ticket was conceded to Obasanjo?

lapintoz:
Ok profer a solution that does not include biafra or ipob 😁

When Obi won the election last year and it was taken from him, was that because he’s IPOB?

seunmsg:
Shehu Sani is playing with your head and you’re already doing atilogu dance for him in the market square. Ogbonnaya Onu is a good man no doubt. However, he stood absolutely no chance of winning the 1999 presidential election. He won the APP presidential primary because northerners were not interested in the ticket and the party leaders already had an agreement to field a Yoruba candidate from AD. The APP primary was simply a joke that was done to fulfill all righteousness. Everyone knew the winner of AD’s primary would fly the flag of the APP/AD joint ticket.

Now, why was that Olu Falae kind of arrangement not made for him in 2023?

Or you don’t think the Southeast, where’s he’s from, is where the Southwest was in 1999 when stakeholders came together and conceded the presidency to them?

Do you think there was anything the Southwest could have done had the military done otherwise except to continue to burn their region?

Misterone:
You people are too deceitful for my liking. You pay one Muslim N10000 to make a video then you paste it on YouTube. Let him make this same demand in the mosque during prayers, we will believe him. Rubbish and ingredient.

Pay your own Muslim.