₦airaland Forum

djsteplion:
The boldened above, was what I meant. I didn't mention anything about increased VAT rate . If you read my post carefully, I mentioned this --> "A lot of people are jobless and hungry, yet what you are more concerned about, is taxing them more ". Now upon all the taxes that the federal government has been collecting, how has the economy fared so far. Now they want to increase tax on calls and mobile data.

Now compare Tinubu's solution of taxing to other aspirants' solution ,such as Peter obi's

Tinubu's solution is the practical thing to do. Peter Obi's solution is more of theories. How does he intend to get the money to make Nigeria a producing country? Or you think he can simply will it into existence?

It's either the Government take more loans, widen the tax net and or remove fuel subsidy. Any other thing is playing to the gallery and not a solution.

IamAtikulate:
Don't forget:.

Rochas Okorocha

Dave Umahi

Chibuike Amaechi

Hope Uzodimma

I don't just know what is wrong with that party.

Like it or not, no SE Governor as done better than Umahi infrastructure wise from 1999 till date.

Racoon:
Whao! Even me too think governor Zulum is a performing governor in Borno. Are we being proven otherwise? Anyway it is the from the horse mouth we are hearing this fact. Ngwannu! Make una do the needful.

Maybe you should go to old nairaland page of when Peter Obi was Governor and see how over 90% of the people living in Anambra in Nairaland wrote nothing good about him.

I will take any politician campaigning against APC serious if they come out with their full chest and say they will reduce all the taxes and duties that Buhari increase if they become President.

Let Atiku and Peter Obi come out and say that if Buhari remove the fuel subsidy before 2023, they will put it back if they get there.

If they cannot say this, then it means they know that what he's doing is necessary.

These are the questions they should ask them during their Arise interview.

"Mr Peter Obi, will you bring back the fuel subsidy if Buhari remove it before handing over in 2023?
Mr Atiku Abubakar, will you reduce taxes and excise duties if you become President?"

I dare both of them to answer yes to that question.

mycar:
I asked for video evidence and you are sending newspaper publication which could be denied.
I know you can't afford to watch this video but for the benefit of doubt, I will still post it here for you to see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHFTH4W6qKs

In summary, Obiano secretary agreed that obi left N75B but not all the money can be accessed immediately

Obiano know what he was saying when he said Peter Obi left only 35 billion with debts claiming 70% of it

SpecialAdviser:
Are you saying school fees is the only source of income to the universities? What then is the source of income to the national assembly and how much is allocated to the national assembly? You guys give government room to play on your head. How much do politicians steal? One single politician steals more that 100billion and yet universities do not have good structures. It's a big mess.

The government talking about school fees are scamming you. We have been selling oil. Where are the money going to? I remembered universities had a good face lift under Obasanjo. Universities roads were tared under him. Then, school fees were FREE. How was that possible?

When you look at how many billions is spent on education, infrastructures, payment of salaries etc, you will see where the money from oil is going to.

School was free under Obasanjo and subsided up until now, that is why our educational infrastructures isn't growing as expected.

Do you know how much America get from oil and other stuffs yearly? But still their education is as expensive that 71% of American citizens cannot go to college without the Government helping them with loans and grants.
Now ask yourself why are American schools not free??

All you guys talk about is oil money, oil money..
Do you know that the sum total of all the monies we get from oil since 1960 up until 2022 isn't up to America's one year defense Budget?

That was how one illiterate was telling me that Nigeria is richer than America. That America gave their citizens an average of N1,500 during the covid 19. I sat the fool down, open my calculator app and calculate how much Nigerian Government will spend if they give 200 million Nigerians even as low as 50k. We saw that it was almost 1/3 of our national budget.

Until we all sit down and reason things without emotions, we will keep on blaming every single goverment.

Qtrpst4:
Oga, persin wey hem house dey on fire no dey pursue rat


Abi you wan deny sey Nigeria no dey on fire?

America is on "fire" and suffering from domestic terrorism where teenagers and young adults will carry automatic rifles and enter supermarket and schools and open fire on innocent customers and students. Yet the American Government will send billions of dollars to Ukraine to fight Putin.

What do you call that?

3ple9iner:
But why is it hard for government to pay pensions and salaries?

Why won't it be hard when Tinubu is collecting all the revenue from the South East?

Qtrpst4:
Chicken change?
So you mean that money is so useless to us that we have no need but to dash it out?
You are worse than buhari himself

Try to dey see things without emotions.

Nigeria will keep sending aids to smaller African Nations even if Peter Obi becomes President.

botahj:
Impressive with your analysis/comments on this thread so far. I guess you are financially inclined and savvy about public finance matters for you to posit such points. So good are your points I have had to comment for the first time in donkey years.

Many think it is rocket science to have a viable working system as is obtainable in western climes without doing their bits to achieve that here with our thoughts and ways.

The average Nigerian student goes berserk with watton destruction of facilities when fees are raised in public schools while not in the know that subsidy on tertiary education by Government is what even allows for such fees in this day and time yet they say nothing is done.

Seeing persons advocate for salary increases in bankruptcy and inflationary periods for ASUU and not knowing that every other group like NNASU, Polythecnics, Colleges of Education, Teachers, Doctors and other medical personnel etc, would send us to situations worse than Venezuela years back. Something has to give way and for now the best bets are in petrol, power and tertiary education. The pool should go to quality healthcare and Basic education till secondary level.

In summary, Nigerians do not really know what they want. Till we have a FUNCTIONAL CREDIT SYSTEM which would bring about INCREASED REVENUES, everything we hope for would be mostly of wishful thoughts. We pander alot this way hoping to arrive in eldorado.

True. The average Nigerian will compare the infrastructures they see in other universities but will never talk about the school fees of those universities

SpecialAdviser:
The problem we as the masses have in all these is not just the lecturer's salary. These universities are not kept to the standard of what universities should look like.

Is it the lecturer's salary demand that is causing that one. Still the so called leaders send their wards to study abroad. Still we hear cases of one person stealing billions. My friend it's a mesh of problems. If the universities are up to standard we will know who to blame.

Stop giving the corrupt government excuses. They are just bunch of fraudsters

How will the university be up to stardard when most federal University's school fees is less than 20k.

If you want standard infrastructures then let the Government increase the school fees.

mycar:
show me the video or you forever keep quiet

Can you just do a simple Google search and keep quiet?

I don't have the video with me here but he said it in an interview. Go and verify.

Here's the vanguard newspaper exerpt.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/obiano-denies-obis-n75bn-handover/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjKzruSx7f5AhWCwQIHHWiCC5UQFnoECAoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1QoxclJysFiv1GvsuaAwA5

Ikea81:
The countries who gave Nigeria the aid, are their school on strike?

America that is giving us aids and selling us fighter jets is suffering from domestic terrorism where a teenager will carry gun and kill 20 persons for no reason.

But did that stop them from sending help to other nations who need help? No!

Qtrpst4:
So your useless governance taught you to give to other nation when your country is bankrupt and could not even pay ASUU with a pile of debts?

Sometimes in a bid to form wise una dey show how foolish una dey. No wonder tilumbu have all of you as supporters

Guy, N1.4 billion will not add or subtract anything from ASSU strike. What ASUU need is over 1 trillion. That's over N999 billion from 1.4 billion Na ona go still laff if FG give ASUU N1.4 billion to hold first.
1.4 billion is just about 0.1% of what ASUU wants.

1.4 billion isn't even enough to build a standard faculty in any Nigerian university that you guys don't want to move on from. Haba!

Right from the days of Obasanjo to Yar Adu to Jonathan, Nigeria has been giving billions to Niger and other small African countries yet una still dey disturb us.

If Peter Obi wins, he will still give Niger billions and they you people will defend him and say, "did Buhari not do it too?".

Try to dey look things without emotions abeg!

Sammy07:
Well this is nice.
BUT.can this be implemented by the federal government?
Isn't this same country where snake swallowed money and nothing was done?

People stealing money through loopholes yet nothing was done.

This country has many problems including the people. Ur VC is good, other VC's will steal the money and even ban SUG from protesting or they scrap them

We both know our country

Actually students protested and the VC banned the SUG. For two sessions now no SUG. Although they were planning to reinstate the SUG before this ASUU strike.
But no one can deny that the VC didn't work.

It was still the same country that snake swallowed money that my school is taking a new shape. I don't mind if my VC dey chop money but as long as I'm seeing progress no problem.

Some were even saying the VC would have upgraded the school before increasing the school fees. But where would he see the money to upgrade the school in the first place?

I would not mind doubling my effort to pay an increased school fees and sit in an AC classroom.
But e dey pain me say I nor go enjoy all these things before I graduate.

We gats sacrifice something for something. We gats sacrifice increased school fees to end ASUU strike.

mycar:
You are a very fat liar and you lie without self worth, so pathetic, did he leave any conclusive debt? the answer is NO, if Obiano did't want the contracts to go on, he would have terminated them, he paid 80% mobilization fee and not expected to pay until the contract is concluded, so what's it that is giving you or.gasm there?

Like it or not, Obiano came to live TV and said Obi never left any 75 billion for him.

You and Obi are liars.

Sammy07:
See removing subsidy without proper things and measures in place is just rubbish

We don't like solving problems entirely from the root Buh solving it from the middle.

How can I be paying as high as #500, #600 per litre with bad economy?
Think am na


Where do you want people to make money? Or nah sand them go use am buy am?

And you know once fuel continue to rise, price of things will surely follow suit.

You can't eat your cake and have it bro. You must sacrifice something for something.

Sammy07:
I can't pay tax on things I won't see or won't have impact.

We already paid import duties, they should manage that

My school increased my school fees. And even though my faculty isn't completed I still pay the high school fees. But I can see work ongoing. This ongoing work started when school fees increased.

I may never receive lectures from the completed classrooms that will be fitted with ACs before I graduate but I cannot deny that I saw what the VC did with the increased school fees.
I might not enjoy it but the next set will.

Sammy07:
Actually, Nigerians are not annoyed and won't be annoyed if subsidy is removed, if they're Paying more tax.

What usually pained us and why we always get annoyed is not seeing the positive impact of what we are paying.

How can I be paying thousands of money as tax, yet someone in Abuja is stealing it without seeing the impact of my tax like regular electricity, functioning roads, security etx

Do you think I will continue to pay the tax?

This is the excuse that most people who don't pay tax give.
Nigerians do not pay tax.

Biodun556:
If we can't pay school fees then ASUU should stop making unrealistic demands

I've said it before that the best way to shut up your critics is by employing them to solve the problems on the areas they criticize you about.

Just the other day my friend who always castigate the Government for not allowing Nigerians accessible to loans couldn't pay the loan he borrowed for those loan app.
Before I borrowed him the money, I jokingly asked him, if he had a bank, would he borrow someone like himself money?

SpecialAdviser:
The first question you are supposed to ask is "Why are there so many poor parents unable to pay their wards school fees? Why are UK parents and US parents able to pay theirs?"

Do you understand what economy means?

A large percentage of people in the UK and US cannot afford studying in their universities without loans, grants or scholarships. An alternative way is for their parents to be saving the college money right from when they were born.

In Nigeria today, an average parent will start looking for money to pay school fees the day the child says, "daddy, I've gotten admission" and many send their children to school without without loans.

A whooping 71% of Americans who go to their colleges can't do so without Government aid

Blue3k:
Ok sir I'll give you the same challenge I gave to the other gentleman. Tell us how you plan on funding 1 trillion naira needed. You're allowed any mix of borrowing, cuts, tax increases or tuition increases as long it adds up to 1 trillion naira. Its easy to be emotional about the situation but were talking about naira and kobo. I also didn't say you have to completely remove subsides. I said students have to take more of the burden and have increased market competition.

Nothing but the truth.

Some of us here are quick to talk about how Ghana Universities doesn't go on strike but become quiet when they hear how much students pay in Ghana.
They don't know that the average Ghanian public universities school fees is as high as 250k per session.

Sammy07:
But Removing subsidy on Education, Fuel. Things will become unbearable.

Until we become fully an export country and our naira is really strong.

I think the subsidy should remain as it is.

Students can't be paying 300k for federal university un top this bad economy and few.jobs

Like it or not, Nigeria will remain a consumption country in those subsidies remain. Nobody can make Nigeria a production without increasing taxes, duties or removing subsidies and (or) collecting billions of dollars worth of loans. If those things are not done, any cut on unnecessary costs and spending is nothing but a waste of time.

And the sad truth is that many Obidients doesn't even know this fact.
Peter Obi will be able to do nothing if he doesn't take loans or increase taxes and duties (thereby causing prices of things to rise and increasing our debts portfolio).
If he likes, let him budget only one car for his convoy and one meal a day as a president and wear only one shoe and watch for his complete 8 years in power, he will be able to do nada as a President if subsidies remains.
ASUU will keep going on strike and our refineries will never be able to function.

Sha I'm glad that Buhari is just waiting for Dangote's Refinery to be completed before he completely remove fuel subsidy next year. Those that wants to die should die and the country will move on after them.

If paradventure, Peter Obi becomes President he should reduce fuel back to N65 naira and watch Dangote refinery becomes moribund just like our 3 NNPC refineries.

As for ASUU strike, Students should pick between no strike again and a conducive learning environment but paying as high as 100k for federal universities or pay 10k school fees and ASUU striking 6 months, twice a year and students lapping each other in their lecture theatres.

Qtrpst4:
Oga you give to people you are better than and not those better than you. Of all those that gave to Nigeria, howany of them have inflation and financial crisis like we do, how many of them have their schools in strike because of money
Try dey get sense, you must not defend nonsense

Nigeria is a thousand times better than Niger. N1.4 billion is chicken change for Nigeria.

Qtrpst4:
Biodun556 but the federal government giving 1.4bn to Niger is nothing right, where did they see money for that? Can't they also go that place to get money for ASUU? If not that they don't take us for granted, how can buhari be that insensitive and to know that people like you support that is the most foolish of it all

N1.4 billion cannot build a standard faculty in any Nigerian university.
N1.4 billion is Chicken change for Nigeria.
Try and move on.

Two weeks ago, the Senate passed the Electricity Bill 2022 to allow states and individuals to generate and distribute electricity.
If in 10 years time private investors rally around Lagos to build 10 power stations some idiots will cry "na only Lagos dey?" instead of them to ask their useless Governors why they are not attracting investors to their States.

Corto:
You're not happy for anything you are a carrion-eater, the lowest of the low

I need no Sunday wishes from agents of darkness like you whose consciences are dead, so shove your 'happy sunday' up your arsê.

K

mycar:
If you, yourself is not a liar, you would know that that investment was worth that amount at the time he made that statement, if you are not a liar , you would have known that the document containing the amount he left is opened to the public for verification and it's online and the figure there is correct according to Obiano who only disagreed based on payable debt which of course was for the contracts yet to be completed.
If you had been in the class in your secondary school days, you'd known that there is never an accurate figure in statistics, hence we have average, media, mode and some times moving average.

Something someone does not know is bigger than one, we have lots of statistical illitrates in this country, you need to know where you belong.
Your type will say that 10 divide by zero is 0 or zero divide by 10 is 10.
And yes, Obi will be your president come February next year, deal with it

No difference between you and Obi. Lying with reckless abandon.
Just read the rubbish you wrote.
Even if there's no accurate figure in stats, 35 billion is a far cry from 75 billion even with rounding off and approximation.

Peter Obi lied to the Anambrans that he left 75 billion plus no debt for his successor and Anambras began to expect too much for Obiano that he had to clear the air on the real amount that was left and the debts he inherited.

You and Obi are nothing not liars

wirinet:
Lagos State Government under the military could no go on an aggressive revenue generation drive.


IGRs are generated by states through Pay-As-You-Earn Tax (PAYE), Direct Assessment, Road Taxes and revenues from Ministries, Departments and Agencies (MDA)s. Its a function of population and the amount of commercial activities taking place in the state. Lagos state was already the commercial capital of Nigeria with huge revenue generating potential before Tinubu came in. Tinubu was not the one that built the infrastructures that made Lagos a commercial hob.

You ended up saying nothing.
Lagos as the commercial capital was generating a meagre sum of N600 million monthly before Tinubu and before he left Lagos was generating to 45-50 billion monthly. Whether it was through PAYE, Direct Assessment, Road Taxes and revenues from Ministries, Departments and Agencies (MDA)s etc is another story entirely. What we know is that he was able to increase the IGR by a large scale.

If I was to choose between a manager that did that for my company or a manager that saves while my bankers and cleaners went on strike for 13 whooping months, I will definitely choose the former.

wirinet:
We are not talking about track record yet, although that track record can be disputed. If we are to compare the track records of all previous governors/ military administrators of lagos state, we would find that Tinubu's 8 year tenure was not extra ordinary. Lagos has been the commercial nerve Centre of Nigeria for decades, it doesn't take much to "perform".

Anyway, we are talking about religious sentiments. A Muslim Muslim ticket is insensitive to the political sentiments of most Christians, particularly at this times, where Buhari had polarized the ethnic and religious atmosphere.

Does it not stink of hypocrisy when ethnic sentiment was employed to choose the APC flag bearer (Yoruba lokan), but you want Christians to employ competency when it comes to religion.
We might as well employ competency to choose a Fulani Fulani ticket or a Yoruba Yoruba ticket.

If a bank manager increases the revenue of first bank from 1 billion to 10 billion, will you disregard his ingenuity and say he only did that because first bank was already rich and had high revenue generation before him?
Perhaps you would say first Bank is an old Bank that has been existing since 1875 and any one would be able to do what he did.

Massiveglory:
They have told you point blank. It is now in your court to determine what you desire.

If you desire Somalia in Nigeria then vote Apc. If you desire Buhari promax, vote Tinubu.

If you desire a radical change of our nation from consumption to production, vote Peter obi- Ahmed datti of Labour Party.
If you desire a people oriented government that can be held accountable, vote Labour Party.

By the time you compare their track record on who have the tendency to transform Nigeria positively, you will know that Peter Obi shouldn't even tie Tinubu's shoe lace

Mrkindness:
Kai no peace for Tinubu urchins.

Imagine digging out 2018 old news just to attack Obi and one useless mod pushed it to from page.

Is Tinubu drug involvement not also in the past even before many of you Obidients were born?