₦airaland Forum

thinkmoney:
I didn't see the person that talked about the mad man. He didn't tag me.
I am not trying to diminish anything, I am only painting the fact. Alot of Nigerians u will agree with me are misinformed. They don't have the grasp of Nigeria history and development over the years.
U just answer; is what I have written true or false?

Retard.. It is totally false. You try to paint the picture of the fact that it doesn't take a genius to Govern Lagos. That since Lagos have the advantage of having a 150 years history of being a special City and a capital, and that the whites played a big role in developing (even though if you are fair to history, the whites actually underdeveloped Africa) Lagos.
And you claim to be knowledgeable about history but fail to know that the Lagos colony was being ran on losses that was why they had to amalgamate the Lagos colony to the Southern protectorate in 1906.

You are trying to paint the picture (even though you are trying to deny it) that Lagos would have been great with or without Tinubu's effort.

Try all you want, but you have failed like others before you.

mycar:
The truth about subsidy is that government makes profit from it, else they would have given everybody license to import to pay duties on it but no , they want to be in control.
To remove it is to add money to it.
The same thing that is happening in the aviation industry, they should leave the market open and just act as a regulatory agency.

So you're saying government don't waste a big chunk of our budget on subsidy but they actually gain from it?

noble71:
you will have to verify your account and migrate to mainnet.

Ok. Thanks. I'll keep you posted

mycar:
There is a comprehension problem here, I am the one making a statement and not Obi, I simply said that when one comes to the office, the person needs to settle down first before anything and not overnight. If Obi decides to perform magic overnight, good ,

I only used Peter Obi as an example in my sentence sef and do know what?

Every time I engage Tinubu supporters, they end up disappointing, just like you, you said that you will support him because he said that he will spread our tax net and remove fuel subsidy, right and not Peter Obi that said that he will scrutinise the subsidy system and determine the exact quantity and the amount, and determine if it actually exist before removing and people must be carried along with all the benefit and it has to be transparent , that's what I call leadership.

On taxation, Obi said that he will look into multiple taxation and cut down on unnecessary expenses like buying SUVs for other countries, budget padding, all the trillions yearly budget for aso rock clinic and glass cutting and what have you, that alone will save us half of our budget amount yearly and you know what, Your Tinubu says that he will tax more people and I ask, what about our resource management, how have they managed the resources available to them? To steal more. I bet you, you will be the first to complain when you would be ask to pay for NTA and newspaper even when you don't even have light in your house to watch one.

There's nothing to scrutinize about the fuel subsidy. Government right from Obj (and before) up to Jonathan and Buhari paid subsidy.
The subsidy is taking a toll on our revenue and e gats go. There's no turning away from the fact.
Bola Tinubu has said it that he will remove it. That's a man with balls.

Though I hope Buhari removes it completely before he leaves office.

Are we still on this buying SUV for Niger?
Nigeria has been supporting smaller African countries right since you could type the alphabet. Nigeria will not stop supporting Niger even till after Buhari. Just because of N1.4 billion that you guys have been disturbing the whole internet for weeks now. N1.4 billion that can't even build a standard faculty in any Nigerian university.
N1.4 billion that's less than 0.001% of our security Budget.

On Budget padding.. even Buhari wanted to stop it and Senate nor gree sign Budget. And that's with APC being the majority of the seat o.. Is it Obi that will have no senator in labour party that will stop it?

thinkmoney:
You lack good sense of history dotard.
Lagos has since more than 150 years been the special city in Nigeria. Everything that will make it a bigger city have gradually since about that time been provided.
It was first, a city of administration for the Portuguese, then it became the centre of administration for the English. Portuguese and english people (also wealthy blacks that returned from these European countries), started building edifices and facilities in lagos.
It has for hundreds of years been the main port for the importation and exportation of goods and services.
Then also, the federal government made the lagos island the capital of the federation and started huge infrastructural development that befits a capital. Lagos got many of its overhead bridges tens of years before any other city in Nigeria.
Most of the international embassies and headquarters of large companies came to be situated in lagos. Lagos became the MECCA city of west Africa.
Its these factors that I said made lagos my nature and chance well placed than other states.
So you see, lagos and its prestige and wealth precede Tinubu by 100s of years. Every administrator played their parts. Governor Otedola in his short time contributed to infrastructural development in lagos. He extended roads constructions to the far extremities of lagos.
Tinubu came and played his part. He to his credit saw all this wealth and introduced an efficient system of taxation and increased the revenues accruing to the state government several folds. The succeeding government after him have (compared to him), pursued infrastructural development more with this huge wealth.
My point again retard, is that no state has this history, opportunity, potential and wealth to dip into to engage in infrastructural and human development on the scale close to lagos. And I also mentioned the other governors the 'visionary leader's Tinubu helped put in government in other south western states that lack these factors lagos enjoys, I asked for people to see if they have been able to do anything significantly different from the other governors and state with potentials comparable to them? If these same governors that Tinubu mentored and helped to power in other states had become governors in lagos, we would have thought that they are exceptional too.
If say Tinubu himself had become governor of Osun state that is his state of origin in 1999, he wouldn't have turned Osun State to what lagos state is now. In fact, Tinubu wouldn't have been what he has become now. It was because of the vast wealth lagos has, which isn't of his making, that he was able to really go to war as it were with the federal government.
Know history and understand reality mumu.

All these long jargons just to diminish the effort of Bola Tinubu.
The fact the you didn't counter that slowpoke that said "even if a mad man Govern Lagos he will perform" shows your true intent.

noble71:
Have you verified your account and migrated to mainnet?

No I haven't

noble71:
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Smithkafors:
You too talk Wike..... You wanted to scatter PDP.

I remember Wike insulting everyone up and down before the primaries. He even went to ANAMBRA to insult Peter obi. I like AA because he doesn't talk carelessly but very deadly.

Woke would have been a baggage for AA as VP because no one likes him except some people with deep seated hatred.

Vote Peter obi for a better Nigeria. Open your eyes, the same people in APC are now regrouping to finish up Nigerian carcass.
Oshomole, Festus, lalong,shattimma and you are blindly supporting them. I pity una.....open ur eyes.

On the pics you posted..

At least those people you posted have the choice to vote or not to vote. But those dead bodies dumped in the Izu River cannot even choose to vote for the man who ordered their death.

Antoeni:
Vote APC for a better ASUU strike

Vote APC for a better insecurity.

Vote APC for a better deappreciation of naira.

Vote APC for a better unending recession.

Vote APC for a better inflation

Vote APC for a better hunger

Vote APC for a better collapse of all our institutions

Vote APC for a better economic failure.

Vote APC for a better dilapidated education.

Vote APC for a better unemployment.

Vote APC for a better nepotism.

Vote APC for a better decay infrastructural and social amenities.

Vote APC for a better change to painful chain.

Vote APC for a better continuity of all these vices and evils.

Vote Mr. Peter Obi, for all inclusive and progressive Nigeria.

You mean we should vote for someone in whose watch, medical doctors were on strike for 13 months.

State University was on strike for 6 months?

Insecurity and kidnapping was the order of the day in his State?

An ordinary aide was caught with N250 million?

Youths were being killed and their bodies thrown in the river?

You mean I should vote such person?

noble71:

Abia state is in bondage of PDP. The worst state in Nigeria to visit. The Citizens must rise up and vote out PDP in the next Election.



Meanwhile at a good rate sell your Pi to us.

What's the average price?

HeroHero:
When will Nigerian universities give scholarships and free tuition like their counterparts in the western countries?

Probably when we Nigerians start paying high tution fees like our Western counterparts.

All I know is that when this strike is called off and FG grant ASUU their request, lecturers go hear am. Any foolish lecturer wey do any how go collect.

Those lecturers that don't come for lectures and those that behave like gods, dem go hear am.

Cos it is we the students time that they wasted. So we won't take no rubbish from them no more

Hausa:
Having gone through this thread from the beginning, it is important to note that as a true-and-true, the people that created this thread in 2012 and the comments that ensued, were not entirely out of place.
Unless you constantly revel in denial, or you come home once a year and spend Christmas in your small village in Anambra and return to your main abode in January, would you not know that there's an atom of truth about their original concerns and worry for Anambra state at the time.

Anambra, in the way that I analyse it (in my head every time I get the chance to tour the towns), is supposed to be far far better than what it is supposed to be because we have people with the utmost capacity to get things done. Unfortunately, the result from that capacity is not usually as elite as advertised. That capacity has not really illuminated this state in such a way that I can beat my chest and say, "Yes, the brains of our people are matching what I'm seeing."
I can therefore not beat my chest and say, "Yes, my people have money and brains, and that it is reflecting in what I see around in the state."

For context, it is not that it isn't there, but it's in dribs and drabs.
But then that is so in every state in this country. And unless you still want to live and revel in denial, would you not admit that it is so in other states in this country.

Be that as it may, this thread was in 2012 (10 years ago).
Can it give us an insight on who Peter Obi was? Yes.
He left office around 2014, and I'm sure he'll know in his mind (if he's truly God-fearing) that he didn't do enough. Cos he didn't, to put it mildly.
But is there a chance he has learnt from the past?
The answer is Yes.
Is there a chance that if you give him the opportunity to run this country, he can do it efficiently? The answer is yes.
Is he better than Atiku and Tinubu?
I like to think in my humble opinion that the answer is yes.
Now, I'm not saying Atiku and Tinubu are not capable or that they lack the capacity, they are, in their own right.
But I have to give my humble opinion that I don't see them doing so much for this country than Peter Obi would, if given a chance.

And that's why I agree with some comments while scrolling on this thread that:
1. It is true that the three are Frauds, yes.
2. It is true that the three are interested in their own Pockets, Yes.
3. It is true that the three Brag a lot for what they have done, what they can do, and what they can't do, Yes.
4. It is true that the three are Evil, yes.

But I'd like to choose the lesser evil...
And that Lesser Evil is Peter Obi.
I'll vote for him, and I'll wish him the best of luck there is.

Nice write up.

But the issue is, why then do people like you blame others for voting Buhari in 2015 and 2019 after seeing his red flag as head of state in the 90s? What if they like you thought he had changed?

Barnacious:
Oh...no wonder!

But wait oo, how come Obiano who dissociated himself from Obi's "misgovernance" got whisked away by EFCC on the day of his hand over while trying to flee the country, but Obi had never been invited by any antigraft agency to answer for any misgovernance since leaving office Kindly help me understand please...

So in other words the only way we should know if a Governor is corrupt is if Nigerian EFCC whisk him away after his tenure?
So Fayose is corrupt but Emmanuel Uduaghan is not corrupt?

Gbemiie:
No one is attacking your Tinubu bros. Search on print Media, search on social media, listen to your TV and radio, Tinubu by himself has demarket himself. Evidence everywhere about how he helped install a calamity known as Buhari. He said it himself that he wants to recruit youths into military and feed them cassava and corn... Go and vote your old cargo candidate. We don't care.
We will massively rally behind the best alternative.

It is funny how Nigeria that has eba, fufu etc as staple food are against being fed cassava and corn.

What does the Government feed our military with? Pizza?

ASUU will call of the strike on...

Mokason288:

Don’t you think Tinubu is already confused that’s why he is shying away from granting an interview

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Mokason288:
Tinubu’s manifesto would say he will do this and that but when he gets there e eye go clear.

Everything looks easy when you're not there.

Same way Fashola thought a serious government will solve electricity problem in 6 months. But 7 years later and power problem still dey.

Tinubu is already pussssssssing on his body , I wonder what he will do if he ever gets there..

If***

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mycar:
That was even when he was paying debt and other things, building schools and hospitals, and why did the poster not come back to praise him when all that he complained about were sorted out?
Just like if he wins now, people will expect him to do miracle overnight.

Isn't he the one that is saying Egypt did this and this in 2 years? If anyone expect him to perform overnight, it is him that cause it.

Last week I enagaged one of his supporters and I discovered that he wasn't so different from Nigerians that expected our currency to be $1-N1 in 2015.

Peter Obi have made the problem of Nigeria so easy to solve.
That is why this time, I will support the person that gives practical solutions to the country like removing fuel subsidy and spreading our tax net on more people and not someone who just wants to turn Nigeria from a consumption to a producing country.

The former, even though hard on us, is much more attainable in a short while and it's results will be visible, good and will cause the latter to happen.

I will support the person who says he will increase the tax net of Nigeria and who has done it in his State over the person what say he will turn Nigeria to a production country whereas his State's people is among those that imports the most in Nigeria.

article1:
Hmn, and you expect Nigeria Universities to resume anytime soon.... They actually told us to vote for CHANGE but we never bothered to ask them the kind of change they had to offer us....

And how do you expect our doctors not to go on strike or ASUU not to go on strike when it was a regular thing when a certain somebody was Governor.

thinkmoney:
Sense u no get. And u go school oh.

Can China be doing something and u say 'patiently waiting for Nigeria '?
No other state has the money lagos has. Things (performance) should be put in context. These guys did not build lagos, they are just fortunate to be in a state that is by nature and chance placed well than others.
If for example, you are expected to carry five packs of indomie to a destination and you only carry two, people will view you as lazy. But people can not expect your child to even carry a pack.
Must I give u people example like u are in primary school? Get sense na and know what u are doing.

All what you wrote are nothing but jargons.

One of the reason for Singapore economic development is that it is situated in a best location for international trade passage making it one of the crowded port. In essence, Singapore is situated in a place that is "good for business"

So imagine a slowpoke like you belittling Lee Kuan Yew (Singapore's first Prime Minister) achievements and say he only developed Singapore because Singapore "is fortunate to be in a location that is by nature and chance placed well than others and even if you put mad to Govern Singapore (Lagos), he will still perform."

That is trash. It is only someone with vision that can tap into advantages like this.


This is the same way some people love to diminish Davido's achievements and say he was only successful because of his father's money.
As if there are not other children of billionaires that ventured into music but never blow or are still struggling.

The essence of my long story is that you should always applaud a visionary leader when you see one. Even though he had lots and lots of advantages.
The fact that he keyed into those advantages (especially when those before him didn't) is an achievement.

Nigeria has a lot of advantages and it is located in a place that is by nature and chance, well placed than others" and "is good for business."
That is why we need someone like Tinubu to key into those advantages and make Nigeria into a working country.

trutharena:
This is for some of the sophistico Yoruba youth that fell for the antics of Ibo people that always say they hate Tinubu not because he’s Yoruba and bla bla bla.

Awolowo was stoned when he went to the East to campaign back then and this is Pa Adebanjo the same Afenifere guy laying claim to that. Is Awolowo also a bad person like Tinubu according to the Ibos? Or why was he stoned?

Azikiwe campaigned easily in the SW but Awo was stoned in the SE for campaigning.

That’s the same thing they are doing to Tinubu. They are making sure he won’t be able to campaign in the SE, where they term any Igbo that support Tinubu as efulefu and always cancel them.

Yet the same people want to be left alone to campaign in the SW while some Yoruba guys with severe confusionists complex will be sheering them on.

The Yoruba are the only tribe in this country without tribal consciousness and it is as tho something is wrong.

Some of them will say they're only against Tinubu cos of his person and not cos he's Yoruba. They'll say if it was Yemi Osinbajo or Akinwumi Adesina they would support them wholeheartedly.
But this statement is not so different from what the average white racists say..
"I'm not racist, I have friends that are black.."

Kudos to the Government.

From now on, I'm taking it upon myself to only say good things about Nigeria.
I believe in division of labour. While others see and talk about only the bad things happening, I will see and talk about only the good things happening.

Penguin2:
Stupid Tinubu BATstards…

They will pay kangaroo group to issue stupid statement that nobody in Igboland will hear except the press.

Then Tinubu urchins will rush to start campaigning with it on how Igbos are intolerant of other candidates and their supporters.

If you believe this rubbish news then you are one of the most stupid of humans to ever walk planet earth.

Ndi ala!

Very soon Nnamdi Kanu and Simon Ekpa will become Tinubu urchins too.
It seems they've cursed the Igbo race never to accept responsibility for any of their actions.

Enskynelson:
OP... How would u link OBI with these killings? It's happening under the nose of their governor. Hold those people responsible because OBI just became a flag bearer this year and these killings have been on before this year.

How come you didn't link Obi and the killing of Igbo youths and the dumping of their bodies in the Izu River? Didn't it happen under his nose as a Governor?

And also, why did you guys link the alleged Lekki toll gate shooting to Bola Tinubu? Did it happen under his nose as a Governor? Was he even a class monitor in Lagos when it happened?

mycar:
Provide the video for me and I show you where Obiano aids attest to the fact that he left that equivalent sum.

I'm telling you of what a sitting Governor said on live TV and you're telling me of what an ordinary aid said.

AyeMoJuba:
Don't waste your energy on these day dreamers
No Igbo man will ever again rule this country.
It will NEVER happen

Mark my words.

An Igbo man will rule after Tinubu and the next Northerner.

Mokason288:
PO still sounds berra than someone who believes it’s his turn to rule

Tinubu made that statement when he was campaigning to be APC flagbearer. He was campaigning to APC and not to Nigerians.

He felt it was his turn in the APC to rule. There's nothing wrong there.

When he starts campaigning proper, then you will see his manifesto.

mycar:
All we need is effective government that will be able to determine the exact amount we spend on fuel importation, the exact quantity, the amount is always inflated just like contracts.

This the only reason I am supporting Peter Obi, he involves himself in the contract negotiation, he does not award contract based on tribal sentiment, he goes for the best deal, he scrutinises every transaction to make sure his state is not cheated out. That was how he saved money,
He doesn't spend anyhow, No wastage of fund, He sees a problem and look for solution which i believe Tinubu was good at but he may not have the strength to do them now and when you rely soo much on others just like Buhari is doing, the whole country will suffer.

Removing the fuel subsidy is the only solution bro.

whitephoenix:
No be only solvent. Inspite of raising taxes indiscriminately thereby increasing IGR, Lagos which is the smallest state in the country by landmass still has the highest debts by far among the states in Nigeria, both local and foreign debts, from 1999 till date.

It is wicked to raise taxes from people's sufferings and then misuse it. It is wicked.

Now, future generations have the burden of debts, ironically for a state that generates the most. Shame

Can you explain why USA is the most indebted nation even though it generates the most Money?

Christian36:
Lol, with the revenue Lagos is getting, yet can't compete with cities like Dubai as a result of corruption organize by Mr billion vans. The revenue of Lagos is equal to or greater than the federal allocation of 10states in Nigeria. You guys should fine another story to tell us not using Lagos as an achievement.

Why don't you compare Lagos revenue and population with that of Dubai.

Buhari should make things easier for the next President. Remove the damn subsidy for crying out loud.

Stopping unnecessary costs and expenses is merely treating a cancer sore instead of the cancer itself.

Make things easier for Tinubu our incoming President biko.