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franchasofficia:
Zik supported which coup? Where do u get your history from Abeg? Lol


Ironsi detained the coupists, but Northerners expected them executed by firing squad which Ironsi could not do citing that he wanted to reconcile the nation and not shed more bloods, which prompted his nationwide reconcilliatory tour in which he got killed at Ibadan. No matter what, Igbos will never forget some historic acts of some honorable Yoruba men during the 1960 political turmoil and whenever Biafra comes they will be celebrated and idolized too.


Col. Fajuyi and one other Yoruba soldier that got executed during the war, Igbos will never forget them.




As for Awolowo and the Biafran starvation policy, I can't vouch for what I am not sure of but Awolowo took the credit and even Yorubas celebrate it and use it as a bragging right of how their son dealt with Igbos intelligently, so i don't know which to believe

Zik denied that it was a coup that happened and even justified whatever he called it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCD7uQsSU6U

You skip to 1:20 and watch Zik shamelessly denying that what happened was a coup.

franchasofficia:
Gave Igbos every dime ke? Igbos only got 10 pounds no matter how many millions they had in Nigerian banks before the war.



Yes some Yorubas in Lagos returned Igbo people's properties in Lagos back to them after the war. This is worthy of note and its highly commendable and will never be forgotten

I said Awolowo gave everything dime allocated to the East during the civil war. He gave the allocation after the war.

vasel15:
Yes of course he ordered the blockage that killed one million children, why should we love him, me personally I have nothing against him because I know he was used by the Fulanis

https://www.nairaland.com/812429/exclusive-chief-obafemi-awolowo-biafra

This is Awolowo's words on Biafra

franchasofficia:
You lack comprehension understanding.



Reread what you wrote again and correct yourself.



Igbos never liked Zik, do you even have sense to read and comprehend? All Zik's nationalist moves and alignment with the North was solely on his own volition, Igbos never liked nor approved of it. How many times will we tell you hateful souls don't Igbos never liked Zik and reason no Igbo praises or celebrate Zik till date.



Awolowo betrayed Igbos via his major roles during the civil war, he was the Finance Minister. He also handled the sale of Ikeja Obakran industrial complex, and he was in charge when Igbos were handed just 10 pounds no matter how many millions they had in Nigerian banks before the war. He rolled out all those policies. Try and read history don't rely on concocted lies told to you by people who only heard from others that heard.


Yes Zik messed up and reason Igbos don't celebrate him despite his great position and historic image in the formation of Nigeria.



Igbos don't support rubbish. We never liked nor supported the actions of Zik and Ironsi but as a hatefilled afonja you are, no matter how many times we say it you won't accept but I have never heard or seen any Yoruba man or woman come out to condemn or denounce the actions of your corrupt and bad political leaders cos to you all, Yorubas are always upright just as Tinubu is a god to you all now despite his dirty past and present known to all

What millions did the Igbos had in the bank account? First, how many banks were in Nigeria as at 1966 that millions of Igbos had account in?
Most of the Igbos that had money in the few banks then withdrew all their money and converted it to Biafra's currency. So most of them didn't have any money in their account anymore.
Also many banks was looted by the Igbos when they were fleeing. In fact the looted a central bank then and carted away millions. The was why Awolowo had the change the Nigeria notes so that the stolen monies will become useless to them and they won't be able to buy weapons.

You talk of Awolowo betraying the Igbos. Was it not the same Awolowo that kept the allocation meant for the East for the whole three years during the war and
gave everyone dime to them after the war? Awolowo kept all the jobs held by the Igbos before the war and they went back to their former position. Is that who you call a betrayer?
Even houses owned by the Igbos in the West were given to them given back to them when they returned back with some given the entire 3 years rent.. That was something the Niger Deltan Igbos didn't even do. They killed the Igbo owners when they returned back and claimed their houses.

As for the blockade, Awolowo talked about the blockade and I suggest you read about it

franchasofficia:
That is part of the Ironsi's mistakes we Igbos have been condemning openly but you hatefilled afonjas never listen even when Igbos have come out to condemn Ironsi's action.



Of course Ironsi ought to have convicted the coupists as a punishment to show that he truly didn't approve their unscrupulous act, he allowed tribal sentiments to becloud his sense of reasoning and he paid dearly for it and did you hear Igbos revolt against that counter coup? No!


What Igbos were angry about was the 1966 pogrom that preceded the counter coup. Why involve civilian Igbos in military and political tuzzle if not for long.standing envy of Igbos by some other tribes even before the coup.



Why didn't Igbos start killings and massacre of Northerners as soon as Nzeogwu and co succeeded in killing Belewa, Ahmadu Bello, etc?



If the Northern pogrom didn't happen, there wouldn't have been any civil war nor declaration of Biafra.


Okay Igbo military officers carried out a coup and killed Northern leaders and others. It is justified that Northerners organized a counter coup to kill and remove Ironsi....they should have limited their madness within the military and the ruling class without involving civilians which the same Northerners do till today yet you hatefilled Yorubas don't ever condemn them out of cowardice and cos they are your Muslim masters

What really caused the pogrom was when the Igbos started making pictures of Nzeogwu standing on Tafewa Balewa the same way Arch Angel Michael was standing on the devil.. Even bread logos had those pictures.. The most of the Igbo civilians supported the coup and were mocking the Northerners. That was what caused the Northerners to go psycho..
Even top Igbo politicians like Zik supported and justified the coup and even outrightly denied it was a coup. He said what happened wasn't a coup but a military takeover.

Ironsi didn't prosecute the coup plotters for the simple reason that he approved and supported it. If not he would have at least even pretend to jail them or even give them a house arrest. Another reason why I think Ironsi knew about the coup was the ease at which he was able to stop it. It was a planned Igbo coup all along.

And also, Awolowo never gave the order to blockade the East. He didn't have any power to do that. He was simply a finance minister.

franchasofficia:
It is unfortunate that many Nigerians have not come to understand that Igbos are one of the tribes or races that don't joke with moral uprightness and integrity of a leader.


It is unfortunate that due to the tribal religious sentiments and clash in Nigeria since the 1960, other Nigerians have misunderstood Igbos a lot, especially politically.


It is also unfortunate that after the civil war, which Igbos lost and were thrown into untold hard ship and economic sabotage by the winning Nigerian side made many Igbos to began to resort to crimes and illegal activities that were abhored in Igbo tradition just to survive after the war.


After the war, Igbos lost so much, lost out in Nigerian civil service recruitments, government palliatives and favours, and even lost federal government presence in Southeast which pushed many Igbos that survived the war into criminal life, some began drug trafficking, many left Nigeria in the most harshest condition just to win bread for their starving families in the Southeast.

This is why it looks like most of the Igbos agitating for Biafra and division of Nigeria live abroad, most of them aren't happy doing crime abroad to survive, they wished they had their own Igbo country led by quality Igbo men that will create the enabling environment for them to return and embark on legitimate work, trade, craft and businesses that will help build an enviable black nation.


They want Biafra because they feel other Nigerians prefer the shattered way Nigeria is because when Igbos condemn or try to stop known corrupt people from getting into power other Nigerians sabotage them and misinterpret them and tag Igbos haters or this and that not knowing that what Igbos want is just a working nation that operates purely on merit where everyone gets what they deserve and worked for.



This desire of Igbo youths to correct what they see as societal anomaly was what boxed Igbos in one corner in the Nigerian national politics when some young Igbo soldiers of the 1960 felt they could savage Nigeria from degenerating into an Islamic state by some Islamic extremist politicians like Ahmadu Bello who was using his influence to stiffle Obafemi Awolowo a Christian political leader in Western Nigeria by joining forces with Akintola and using federal might in the hands of Belewa to stiffle Awolowo and even jail him.


These young Igbo soldiers and their few Yoruba and Middlebelt counterpart saw Awolowo as a better leader and decided to take laws into their hands by carrying out a coup to remove Belewa-Zik government to install Awolowo.


Many wondered why they killed Ahmadu Bello and Akintola and spared Michael Okpara the Eastern premier?


Ahmadu Bello and Akintola who were close political allies and presumed Muslim extremists pushing for Islamic dominance in Nigeria as once led by Uthman Danfodio was actually their main target. They killed Belewa out of foolishness and intoxication, they never intended to kill Belewa, only wanted to arrest him, including Akintola who challenged them in a shoot out when they tried to arrest him at his official residence in Ibadan.



Now to my main points of creating this thread.


Igbos have a very high moral standard and only like proven men of integrity who aren't bias or compromised to occupy key leadership positions and that has been the reason other Nigerians misunderstand Igbos but if you look closely without bias you will understand this.


How you may ask? Please calm down and read my next posts below

You Igbos always lie to the teeth.
Even the Okpara you're trying to absolved openly said his greatest regret was advising Zik to betray Awolowo. And to who did he betrayed Awolowo to? Wasn't it the North. But till date you guys keep lying that Awolowo betrayed you even when the chief betrayer admitted that he betrayed Awolowo.

franchasofficia:
It is well.



Now I see the problem, most of you Yorubas have been lied to severally about Igbos.


My uncle was among the coup plotters who went with Nzeogwu to arrest Ahmadu Bello and subsequently led to killing of Bello before his wife. It was an unfortunate coup, my late uncle told us so. He said the executors in Southwest messed up things. They never planned to kill Belewa but only to arrest him. He said another thing that messed up the coup was Ironsi's escape who later foiled the coup. Ironsi was never part of them or their agenda, it was mostly among young officers.


So you believe Nzeogwu will carry out coup to install Ironsi that he doesn't even like?


Ironsi foiled the coup, took advantage of the situation to take over. If Ironsi planned the coup or if it was an Igbo coup, Ironsi would have listened to all the sound advice Igbo political elites including Ojukwu gave to him. Ironsi was even trying to become another nationalist like Nnamdi Azikiwe who relinquished his head of state power to Belewa in order to focus on being Pan African and nationalist leader.



I know nothing on earth could make you guys believe it was never an Igbo agenda coup, something laughable but deep down your hearts you know the truth but hatred and bigotry won't let you all accept the truth.



Yes the coupists messed up....sparing Igbo political leaders was really indicting of their true intentions, but still the truth remains it had nothing to do with Igbo agenda cos Igbos as at then were even in charge of Nigeria and had no reason to carry any ethnic coup

Try all you want but you can never rewrite history. The Igbos out of greed wanted to rule over Nigeria. If Ironsi was all about being a Nationalist, he would have convicted Nzeogwu of treason. That way the rest of us would have known he wasn't part of the coup. He did nothing. Even promoted some of the coup plotters.

Out of greed an Igbo man left the East to be Premier and said he wants to rule as the Premier of the west. It was all about ruling the whole of Nigeria. That's why even as far as 1945, Igbos were already saying, "the domination of Nigeria and Africa by the Igbos is only a matter of time" and "the god of the Igbos have deemed it fit for the Igbos to rule Africa."

You guys have been nursing the idea of ruling the whole of Nigeria and even Africa.

Ojukwu never for once adviced Ironsi of punishing the coup plotters all because the Igbos were in power.
Zik even came life on a live interview, look Nigerians in the face and said what happened isn't a coup. Can you imagine?

The coup was an Igbo domination coup. Deny it all you want but you can't change reality.

gidgiddy:
People like the above OP are truly a testament in embarrassment. Lagos was capital of Nigeria for over 70 years before the capital was moved to Abuja

But some fools think Lagos became what it is as a result of Tinubu's 8 year rule?

How can people be this foolish?

Is that the reason why Obi couldn't develop Anambra to a standard where at least him and his family can live there?

ppogba:
Because corruption is endemic in Nigeria, that MAY not achieve the desired results. The person that will replace is equally corrupt.
Majority of Nigerians are corrupt. Those shouting are making noise because they do not have the opportunity yet.

If the next person knows fully well that he will be removed once his corruption is found out, he will sit up.

The MD of NNPC will be corrupt cos he knows even if he's caught nothing will happen. But when he knows he will be removed once the government finds out he's mismanaging funds he will sit up.. Who doesn't like to be called the Managing Director of NNPC?

franchasofficia:
Now I see I am discussing with a youngster who only know the history based on twisted truth.


Do your well good to read the book titled "Why We Struck" written by one of the main coupists who happens to be a bonafide Yoruba son by the name Adewale Ademoyega so you can hear some of the truths from one of the key actors of the January 1966 coup who also is not Igbo.


Ironsi was never part of the coup. Yes he allowed tribal sentiment to becloud his judgment.


No where in the world will Chief of Army Staff of the country carry out a coup when he is in charge.


Ironsi was the Chief of Army Staff and in charge of Nigerian Army so there was no need for him to carry out coup. He and Ojukwu were against the coup and played roles in foiling the coup.



But Ironsi made mistakes of not executing the coupists but rather jailed them. That made the North to believe he was the chief coupist of that unfortunate coup.



Pls try and read why we struck by Ademoyega

Ademoga was deceived by Nzeogu and the rest Igbos that they were carrying out a coup to make Awolowo president. He didn't know that the Igbos had other plans. You cannot tell me that no single Igbo man was corrupt enough to die in the coup but none was killed because the real coup plotters tipped them off. Ojukwu and Ironsi were part of the coup. It was a coup to install an Igbo man as the head of Nigeria and it was a success.

Ademuga, till he died believed the coup was for Awolowo. Little did he know that the Igbos used him.

franchasofficia:
Igbos love for Odimegwu Ojukwu


Every Igbo man or woman loves Ojukwu not just because he was the leader of Biafra in the 1960s, but because Ojukwu demonstrated high level of discipline in his leadership right from when he was a junior army officer which made him earn that massive followership and support from Igbos.


Ojukwu hated injustice, Ojukwu wanted total liberation of blacks from the claws of the white colonialists. As a child born into one of the richest black families then, he saw firsthand the greed and wickedness of the whites against blacks. He lived and dined with rich white people from birth and saw their true color which made him challenge a white school headmaster that slapped a Nigerian school girl when Ojukwu was still in secondary school.



Even when Nzeogwu and co carried out the infamous 1966 coup, Ojukwu was completely against it. Ojukwu was enraged and worked to foil that coup and never liked Nzeogwu even after the war broke out which made Nzeogwu to always fought his Biafran battle as an independent force with his own squad he usually went on a reconnaissance hit with. Ojukwu also gave standing order to his guards never to allow Nzeogwu near him because he never trusted Nzeogwu that much due to the role Nzeogwu played in the 1966 January coup.



It is worthy of note to note that Ojukwu never declared war against Nigeria like many were made to believe. What actually caused the civil war was the 1966 Northern pogrom against civilian Igbos living in the North which Gowon refused or couldn't stop even after Ojukwu wrote him severally pleading for a solution as hundreds of igbos were returned back to the east from North as dead corpses when there was no war happening.


Ojukwu being the Military Governor of Eastern Nigeria took it upon himself to defend Easterners from Northern aggression that Gowon's federal government refused to stop just as Buhari's government is doing today about Fulani herdsmen terrorists, kidnappers and bandits killing Nigerians all over.


Ojukwu even took Nigerian government to West African court seeking for solution and after an agreement was reached in Aburi Ghana to end the crises and implement certain policies to bring peace, Gowon returned back to Nigeria and rejected all that he agreed and Ojukwu carried out a wide consultation among Eastern Nigerians via townhall meetings and they agreed to secede and that was how Ojukwu declared Eastern Nigeria an independent nation of its own called Biafra. This led to Gowon declaring a Police action to forcefully bring back Eastern Nigeria back to Nigeria after British government back Gowon to use force to return Biafra back to Nigeria and the war broke out, first shots were fired.



What point do I have here?


Igbos massively supported Ojukwu because of his high level of leadership discipline and integrity, and support for justice. Nnamdi Azikiwe didn't and wouldn't have enjoyed such massive support.

Ojukwu wanted liberation but waged war against the Niger Deltans when they wanted to secede? Him under Ironsi captured the leader of the secession and sentenced him to death for treason.
Is that the person that wanted people to be liberated?

I know you'll justify Ojukwu and Ironsi's acts by saying that it was the Fulanis that used Adako Boro. But history has it that the Igbos were the first people in Nigeria to stop the secession 3 times.
First in 1953, when Zik persuaded the North not to secede. 2nd in 1954 when Zik opposed Awolowo's secession clause. And 3rd in 1966 when Ojukwu and Ironsi waged war against secessionists

And when did the Igbos castigate Peter Obi? Peter Obi is involved in corruption. He failed to declare his asset as required by law before holding a public office. He's involved in the Pandora issue..

Before you Igbos absolve him of blame, if it was Tinubu that didn't declare his asset or was involved in the exact Pandora issue Peter Obi is in, would you not castigate Tinubu for what you're justifying Peter Obi for?

The only way for corruption to stop is for the head of such service to be sacked asap and replace with the next available person. If as a head, you know you'll be sacked and will stop receiving salaries the moment corruption is noticed in your agency, you'll be forced to fight it yourself even if you're not directly involved

FactBoyz:
My own is that

Mbaka attacked Peter Obi and lost his Adoration Ground
Wike attacked Peter Obi and lost the Primaries
Ike Ekweremadu attacked Peter Obi and got arrested for Organ Trafficking in the UK.
It seems this Peter Obi movement has become spiritual.

Funny how it's only people with Igbo blood that is being attacked spiritually

Penguin2:
Fools would want us to believe that the Ngozi in Rivers is different from the Ngozi in Onitsha.

Idiotic Fools!

Ndi ala!

Very soon, the damage done by the Civil War will be undone and the Igbo tribe/family will be one again.

Same way some Deltans (Itsekiri) bear Ayodele, Femi, Shola are totally different from the Yorubas. Both the Igbos and Urhobo bear Okpako and are different people entirely.
Capisce!

richie240:
Nwokem, pls don't tell me u r still on ds 'jubril El-sudan' bs ds early morning biko!

So you didn't even get what I did there. It was a mockery to those who believed that Buhari died and Britain and America covered the story.

richie240:
Lolz....see 'Nigerian' way of reasoning o

So in ur mind u think oyibo go just allest a whole Nigerian senator (ex-no 3 sef as former senate president) with hin wife if dem nor get strong case against them?
If he try procure any ochanja document, na from frying pan to fire (perjury) he go find himself.

This wan nor be Nigerian tins o, wey una go begin shout 'whataboutism', 'victimization' etc upandan.

Isn't this the same UK that you guys claim is covering Buhari's death? If Britain can cover the death of a sitting President according to you guys then why can't they frame an ordinary senator?

If Ike comes out innocent, he would feel very betrayed by the people he helped the most which are his tribesmen. It's funny how much of the people supporting him are people from another tribe while most of the people criticising him are from his tribe.

I won't say anything yet till things unfolds

vasel15:
I already told we that igbos see azikiwe as trash, what else do you want to hear

Lies. The Igbos prefer to hate Awolowo and blame him for every misfortunes that happened to them.

Built2last:
Do you know how many governors have paid for the WAEC of students in their state.

I can see that the cheque has gone out. Money done enter their hand.

we are seeing many throw back videos and posts repackaged.

I have challenged every Tinubu supporter to show me a video or detailed article where Tinubu has clearly stated what he intend to archive as president

oh i forgot, he said its MY TURN. 50million youths in the army and feed them cassava.

Show me his plans.

I guess you lots are still busy digging on Obi. Wait till campaign start, you will see that Obi supporters in that Lagos are more than those online.

Do you know how many politicians and Governors have donated laptops to students? Something that even Gbajabiamila did in more than 38 secondary schools in FCT? Or something that Olusegun Oni of Ekiti State did in 2009? He donated over 1500 laptops to students.

vasel15:
I am done with this argument because you are refusing to learn, who paid for the arms that boro used for his so called fight for freedom? And stop saying Niger deltans

I gave you 3 instances and you decided to pick just one.

vasel15:
Oh yes fulanis deceived and used awo, you don't even know the history of Nigerian politics

Awo believed in Yoruba nation, but fulanis tricked him

Three times, the Igbos stopped a group from seceding.

In 1953, Azikiwe stopped Northern Nigeria from seceding. Although it was more of a persuasion than outright stopping them. So who then was using the Fulanis?

https://guardian.ng/features/ziks-voice-that-voided-planned-secession-by-the-north-in-1953/

In 1954, Zik opposed Awolowo's secession clause in the constitution and the expression "... to secede would amount to treason" began.

In 1966, Aguiyi and Ojukwu stopped the Niger Deltans from seceding.


Other great Nigeria politicians were around in 1953, but none tried to stop the Northerners from forming their own country except the Igbos (Zik). Same in 1954.

vasel15:
Boros brother said it fulanis sponsored adaka boro, I do research before I post I am not a block head like you, boro never wanted any Republic

OK let us skip this Boro part first. Why did an Igbo man (Azikiwe) frustrated the clause for secession of any part of the country? Was it also the Fulanis that sponsored the Awolowo too??

Do you know that if that clause was in the constitution, Biafra would have been achievable without blood?

DarlingtonC:
Okay.

But do you know Lagos was doing great before Tinubu came in?

If your company was doing great, would you then hire someone that would ruin it?

All those trash talks of Lagos doing great before Tinubu is nothing but trash.
A Governor that didn't owe any work a dime even though all his allocation was hoarded by the FG and a Govenor that both Lecturers, Doctors and even members of the State water body was owed cannot be compared.

Now let me ask you, would you hire a MD that has a past of owing workers in his previous company or a MD that never owed a single worker even when more than half of companies budget was cut off?

Most of all those Peter Obi investing in education are what Tinubu does as a private citizen.
Tinubu donated N1 billion to LASU just this year. That is worth more than the laptops Peter Obi gave students as a Governor.

vasel15:
Do you really have a block head? I said he never wanted any Republic, fulanis used him to distract ironsi in order to kill him

lies. Keep justifying why the Igbos stopped the Niger Delta from seceding. Believe whatever you want but history has it that the Igbos stopped a part of Nigeria from breaking out.

And I see how you always cleverly ignore the second part how it was Nnamdi Azikiwe that frustrated Awolowo's secession clause from the constituting..

Nnamdi Azikiwe made it a treasonable offense for any part of Nigeria to secede. That was why Aguiyi Ironsi sentenced Adaka Boro for seceding.

vasel15:
Do you have a block head? Fulanis sponsored boro, he never wanted any Republic, why did fulanis not give boro the republic after they killed ironsi?

The Igbos would have let him secede whether it is Fulani sponsored or not. As far as history is concerned, the Igbos stopped a tribe from seceding and one year later wanted to secede.

And I asked you again, was it the Fulanis that sponsored Awolowo when he wanted the seccesion clause in the constitution?

Some nonentity just wrote something that anybody can write on social media and plenty idiots just believed him with their full chest.

Abdul05:
Supporting an ibo man for president.,.


Is like throwing stones on a fruitless tree...




No northern man would want him to rule..

The reality on ground is that the only way an Igbo man can be President is if the SW support him.
And till now the Igbos don't get it

vasel15:
Adaka boro was a fulani slave, I keep telling you empty heads the same thing all the time, fulanis used boro to distract ironsi

All we know is that the Igbos were the first people to stop the secessasion of another tribe.

Was Awolowo also a Fulani slave when Zik stopped his secessasion clause?

WiszyFraud:
Did you know??


Avoid bathing with hot water always.

Hot water can damage the cells in your skin, make your skin lose its moisture, oils and nutrients, leading to skin dryness, itching, flakiness, eczema, early wrinkling and ageing.

Then wetin people for cold Europe go use take baff? Cold water?

vasel15:
You are a pure anuman 30,000 igbos killed was even before the civil War, would you want to remain in a country that killed 30,000 of of your people? may the gods continue to punish you even after you leave this world and when you come back your punishment will continue

If and only if Aguiyi Ironsi and Ojukwu had allowed Niger Delta to secede, maybe Adaka Boro and the Niger Deltan would have supported Biafra seccession.

If and only if Nnamdi Azikiwe had supported Awolowo seccesion clause in the constitution, then maybe Biafra's seccesion would not have been treason.

I saw a post saying this year would be the coldest as the Earth will be farthest from the sun. If this is true, it means Putin deliberately picked year 2022 to fight a war in cold Europe where gas will be needed the most to heat European houses.