₦airaland Forum

SpecialAdviser:
Lol. If you didn't criticize Buhari, na Tinubu you go criticize. Abeg park one side. Lol

Is it a must to even criticize....

ojeysky:
If it's an axpert variant perhaps you may be lucky to put off some data from it using the solpiplog, have you tried that yet?

Please how can I get the solpiplog and connect it to my inverter....I use felicity, I think it's an axpert variant

Arrewa:
Tinubu and APC should as matter of fact push for the legalization of LGBT+ in Nigeria and allow people to chose who and what they want to be as Long as there is no threat to freedom and lives of Nigerians.

The backward act of killing and dehumanizing gay people should be criminalized in Nigeria for our development, freedom and justice

Why not Channel the energy we use against LGBT+ towards our politicians that are busy farming and exploiting your ignorance?

These Western world that we condemn because of their systematic support for LGBT+

They are doing far far better than our poor and backward continent, that is filled with people Who have no care and empathy for one another. We have the worse justice system and the most corrupt politicians in the world!!

One thing you won't take away from the whites is the strong justice system which is made possible at the absence of religion,
this is their law" Everyone is free to do whatever u like with ur body ,but no one is allowed to temper with the public fund because death and roting in jail is the endpoint " that's why many of them are free to marry animals,plants , become gays and Even themselves.
Note:
but are not free to embezzle public fund that's why the Europe remain the most developed civilization in our current world...

You Embezzle public fund, you rot in jail... Their justice system is solid and effective!!

Here in Africa, you embezzle billions, give 2% to religious leaders and get some jobless youths and share another 2% of your loots, especially the ones you are ethnically or religiously inclined.

Then distract us with anti LGBT+, bobrisky,bbnaija, tribalism, sex&nudity through our comprised media houses... To keep black people busy and distracted!!

Tinubu can't even try that rubbish....Nigeria is bigger than Tinubu and anyone

temitimx19:
Multipower is the best tubular battery ever. The one I regret buying is matrix battery, it's not durable at all

What's your yardstick for best......

FEGEITOK:
There is something new under the sun

What are your thoughts?

Unbelievable standby consumption: >3w
How genuine is this.

pharmbayo:
You are getting it wrong bro...no one is arguing with you on the salary scaleat all....Dentists are paid more than Pharmacists. What we are actually talking about here is the Lucrativeness of the profession in Nigeria. No where in Nigeria wld a Pharmacist be used as a Sales boy and be paid 50k...If you know the number of Pharmacies in the country looking for the service of Pharmacists...you wont be saying this at all..Do you know that you cant even Open a Pharmacy in Nigeria without you getting a Pharmacist? Do you now know the number of Pharmacies you have in your locality? Any Pharmacies not having atleast a Pharmacist is illegal in the country and which can be closed at any time....
Pharmacists are paid about 800k per year for just to release their licence and certificate for a premise registration and this does not cover their service in the
Pharmacy at all..
Dentists are paid more when employed but Pharmacy has more Job Opportunities in Nigeria

Dentistry is like blood Money.....If you know, you know

If you can get original LG, go for it. Have been using mine for more than 3yrs. Bought another one, unfortunately it's fake, the picture quality is subpar. My Relations bought 2 big ones, unfortunately they are fake also. Getting original LG tv is like navigating a gold mine in Nigeria, especially with influx of Alaba coupled/made tvs.

mank1234:
5kw inverter without reducing the loads? Are you assuming that the entire 5kw is available for use perpetually? Even the odogwu in this place hardly do 70% sustained load on their inverter.

At startup, 2 1hp inverter AC is about 2200W, except in gen mode. Can ensure that they are always in gen mode? I doubt. If all 6 ACs are connected, how sure are you that not more that two is ON at the same time?
He mentioned fload lights of 400 * 6 = 2400W. He mentioned water pump (if its 0.5hp that's about 600w in real life). He mentioned fridge and freezer (about 300W). The fridge and freezer needs 3x to 5x starting power headroom for about 3 to 10seconds.
This is excluding other lights, television, fan, and other minor stuff.

Is there a possibility that the inverter will see greater than 5kw for extended period of time? YES
Will the owner be there to to ensure above doesn't happen at all times? NO

Painting the correct picture to the person who asked the question, will help in managing expectations and in avoiding regret.

Please, go through the initial post that he reacted to, and you will understand what he said. Isangjohnson advised that If he is on budget he can go for a 5kva inverter with 15kwh Lithium phosphate battery with plenty PV power, and he will need to reduce his AC runtime especially at night .But if he is not limited on budget, he can go for bigger system. I don't think anything is wrong with his advised. 5kva will power most loads, infact all basic loads. It's about budget my brother

Feshizzy:
5kva inverter for 2 inverter AC and all those loads? You don't even know the HPs
Please don't give advice on inverters,
You will clearly put people in trouble and debt.

You could have added your own advice without taking a jab at him. He hasnt said anything extremely out of order. Everyone here is a student of Alternative/renewable energy. Even Our Ogas here still learn to get better daily. And 5kva is huge, it can comfortably power 2 1hp inverter ACs. You don't need humongous, power hungry inverters to power basic household load.

obitobe:
Please I need advise, I have a 24 volt system set up consisting of 300w panels(6), a 2.5kVa 24V afripower inverter, felicity MPPT charge control(60A) and 4 tubular haus strom batteries, but i still have to charge the batteries with generator from 7pm -10pm. How do I improve the system in such a way i stop running the generator.

PS my total watt in my apartment is 1113w


please i need this improvement advise.

If you can afford 48v system, go for it. You only need to change the inverter, rearrange the batteries to 48v. Then you can add 2 or 3 more panels. Am sure with this, you will rarely have a need for generator

Juror:
What's your battery chemistry, specs and panels capacity.

4 x 12v 220ah tubular battery. 8× 270w with an additional 280w panel connected 3S3P

vta2008:
Good morning everyone

Abeg why is it that inverter installers always tell you not to use pressing irons? They never offer any meaningful explanation.

My inverter is a 5.5KVA with 4 batteries (12v 220AH)

Note: I've used a pressing iron and air fryer on the inverter without any issues but I sometimes wonder if I'm low key damaging the inverter.

Thanks

I have been using my 5kva hybrid inverter to cook, iron,pump since 2021. No issues. 5kva have enough headroom to power those loads talk more of an higher capacity inverter. Don't on all the loads at once. Whatever you do, do it at your own discretion....your inverter can power those loads easily.

Pojomojo:
3KW INVERTER SETUP + SOLAR

1. 3Kw 24volt Hybrid inverter = #240,000

2. 12v 200Ah battery 4pieces = #150,000 x 4 = #600,000

3. 270watts solar panels 9pieces = #55,000 x 9 = #495,000

4. Solar mounting rails on roof and its accessories = #36,000

5. DC & AC Cables = #85,000

6. AC & DC breaker, changeOver, trunking, AVS, breaker box, AC & DC Surge, PV combiner Box = #50,000

7. Logistics to site = #30,000 within Lagos

8. Installation = #60,000

TOTAL = #1,596,000 Is this not a outrageous quote? Please 🙏 help as this is the quote by my installer

Are the panels used?.....it's better to get a quality panel than plenty half-baked, overated panels.

dacool1:
Has anyone gotten over 3000 cycles

3000cycles is much oo...except you are a power user, that will take you upward of 7years.

viperVIP:
Hello house, I met @justcallmenuel on this platform and I have made purchases from him numerous times but it's high time I stopped dealing with him. He lacks understanding and does things his own way without consideration for how the customer feels.

I need to replace a battery for a client, out of 4 quanta batteries, 1 gave up and it's giving the client (a cancer hospital) so much worries, client wants the battery bought and replaced today in other to save his patients. I chatted Nuel up last night and asked if he could make it possible which he guaranteed that I will get it in Abeokuta by 1pm at worst, i told him 12noon will be better and we agreed. I reached out to my ibadan vendor and he confirmed he has in stock too, but just because of the relationship with Nuel, i decided to buy from him.

Only for him to tell me this morning that the park that sends to Abeokuta there no longer exists, and if they have to take to iyana ipaja, i have to pay #10,000 for the delivery to the park, excluding what the driver will still charge to deliver to Abeokuta, just a single 200ah quanta battery. I told him I'll rather have a refund if you can't keep your end of the bargaining or you do something about the delivery cost, this mindless Nuel told me he can't refund, he bought it from someone too and went ahead and send it via the haulage that won't deliver until tomorrow, this is after picking up from my ibadan vendor.

My fault was to think I'm keeping a relationship with him by coming back to buy, but right now I'm blocking him off totally.
Just know that before you start threading this path, @kiekie1 was once relevant like you in this forum.
No peace for you @justcallmenuel

From the few times have transacted with justcallmenuel. I can say boldly the experience has been good. And I can safely recommend him. Based on your side of the story, I think it's an issue of understanding, since Abeokuta park is no longer available, i think he is handicap. The two of you are egbon, and I believe you can both find away around it.
Talk to him I believe you can find a mutual ground for the delivery price.

bigrovar:
This is close to what I get from my Canadian solar. Even with not being optimimally oriented (they face south east at about 124 degrees of azimuth as against 180 degress) and at about 21 degrees tilt (as against 5 degrees) My panel constantly do north of 80% of their name plate, that is about 4.5kw of 5.4kw PMAX. Note that I am paring them with a 100A solar charge controller which means generation is clipped at 100A when in fact the panels are designed to produced 112.6A. so in a way should be getting more from the panel if I were using a bigger solar charger or if I were to divide them between 2 controllers.

For the OP I suggest get can squeeze more from the panel if he can put them on rails and have them tilted a bit to achieve close to 18 degrees tilt. This would require the work of an experience installer. They would need to fabricate an L foot for him. I did same with my system

Please where do you stay, alot of us are having issues getting the rated nameplate on our panels even with proper orientation, angulation etc and the sun blazing at its full strength. It's either location or quality of panels now

bobmalu83:
My experts in the House. I greet you all for all the enlightening may the Lord increase you.
Please i need a help. A client wants to setup an inverter and Solar system in his Pure water factory that will carry the following loads.
1. Sachet printing water packaging machine. According to the client the machine is 3pcs and each of the power input of the machine is 3kva X 3 and it will run for 8hrs daily.
2. 1hp pumping machine (Sumo) will go off once the tanks are full.
3. Lighting points for night

Please i need an advice on what system will work for this project perfectly.
1. Inverter capacity
2. Battery bank
3. PV capacity.
I will also like to learn all the calculations. Thanks in anticipation

My mum has a purewater factory, and with what you've listed above 15kva(3× 5/6kva hybrid inverter paralleled together) with 10kw of panels will do the job. Ours run mostly during the day. 15kwh of lithium battery is enough except your factory works at night. You can enlarge the battery bank depending on Night duty/Load. You can always have a gen backup but I doubt you will end up using it with what v listed above or we have 3-days of darkness

Dam5reey:
Your expectations is too High,

Your panels are doing fine for the grade, you can't get 100% of solar rating expect around 60% to 75% at peak.

What's kind of batteries are you using, you might also me limiting the power with your connected loads.

What's the daily power generation in KWH, does your inverter logs the daily harvest?

His is less than 60%. Something is wrong. Panel ratings might be false. Mine generates more than 70% at peak hours. And am sure it's a regular grade panel

papiTwist:
Thanks for your response,

Honestly I didn’t check the panels individually.
The panels are positioned East-West and facing due north. I couldn’t get it to face due south because of the roof orientation.

There is no shading at all. In fact the panel receives quality sunlight between about 7:30am - 5:30pm.

Meanwhile, I used 2*7 AWG wire, that’s about 2*12mm square and the length between the panel and the inverter is about 10 meters.

See attached pix

Everything looks OK.... other thing is the quality of panel. Someone complained recently about felicity panels here. Check page 1375. Maybe there panel ratings are false or they are being wrongly labeled by Alaba boys

papiTwist:
Hello good people,

I installed six pieces of 350 watts Felicity solar panel mono (3 each in series and paralleled). That is totaling 2,100 watts. I’m using 3.5Kva/24v Felicity Hybrid inverter IVPM 3524 with 80amp inbuilt MPPT charge controller.

The system is only able to generate 1,200watts maximum on very bright sunny days, even with depleted batteries and load. So I’m wondering if other users have similar experience.

This means I’m loosing 900 watts of my total installed capacity.

Is this normal? Please what are your experiences?

What's the angulation(steep) of your panels, pics of the installation might help our Ogas in the house

ask4bk:
Wow. I see there are many things involved in this.

Do tubular batteries truly get you more years more than AGM batteries?

If I've the means I heard I could go lithium install and forget about it for 10-15 yrs, especially if I'm using it like I use these batteries today. True?

Tubular batteries are more durable than AGM or other Seal Maintenance Free(SMF) lead acid. If you don't have money for lithium yet, go for it. Genuine Tubular batteries are far superior than other lead acid for solar and inverter systems. The major advantage of AGM over regular Tubular battery(C20) is it can support fast charge and discharge because of its 10hr rating. Even still there are C10 Tubular batteries that will give AGM a run for its performance.

Have been using mine for over 3years still running like when I got it. It powers my whole flat.

Wizzoe360:
Hi guy, I want to sell my 12v 200a battery and I am planning on getting a tubular battery. Please can someone recommend a good one for me. Also I guess the tubular battery are better than the dry cell battery

Am using Luminous tubular, and it's good. Heard Eastman, genus are equally good.

cretin:
so, my flooded battery has 2 problems.

1. the electrolyte depletes very fast...within 6weeks, i top up with distilled water and charge at 14.7v and 13.8v float

2. in a battery of 6 cells, maybe 4 or 5 cells will have low electrolyte after 6weeks, while one or 2 cells will have half full electrolyte.

3.i have 4 batteries in series with solar supporting it and grid. by 9pm, the battery voltage drops to 50v and remains there almost tru the night or hovers between 50v and 49.7v. but when the electrolyte is low, the voltage remains btw 50.5v and 51.5v . so i believe the higher concentration makes the battery voltage sag to be minimal. the batteries are 2.5yrs old. and just get warm to touch during charging...luminous battery.

has anyone experienced this and what can i do to turn things around?

Noticed same too....especially since I move to my new location and my panels started pumping more juice. Infact mine boils aggressively and you can see the water spilling through the vent to the floor. Oftentimes we have to mop the battery water, that is how bad it is.

What I discovered is that higher charging current and voltage causes this aggressive boiling. Have limited my charging amps to 30amps whether from solar, utility or both and it has helped. The main issue is that at the peak of the sun when there is sudden shoot in solar generation the battery voltage can go dangerously as high as 58.8 on my controller, sometimes over 59v and you start seeing the water boiling right in your presence.
Safe voltage on my controller has been 58.0 to 58.4, anything beyond it starts cooking. Infact from 58.2 you can start seeing the battery gassing, making crepitus sounds.
My advice reduce the absorption voltage to max of 58.4 if possible 58.2. Reducing charging current too goes along way.

sintolord:
Why then, did you go ahead to market such a cheap inverter with 3X surge power? Is it not a market strategy to increase sales and increase failure rate, thereby leading to further increase in sales again? You know, experience clearly states, don't surge those cheap inverters & you go ahead to market it with 3X surge power. That's wickedness. Let's call a spade a spade.

Most manufacturers of well built & expensive hybrid inverter state 2X surge power. The annoying thing is, you know the manufacturer of this inverter lied about this.

Like Zeestone said, most low frequency inverters can handle 3x surge for brief seconds, hybrid 2x for about a second. The difference is that premium inverters can do the above with very low standby consumption, and better efficiency

samnaija:
If you can collect your air-conditioning water without any debris and dirt. You have distilled water. You can also run the water through a filter.
I know someone that uses well water for their tubular, I won't recommend it. The person also uses a tds to ensure the water is ok.

I use the ac water for my tubular, stopped buying distilled water a long time ago . Get a tds also.

Have been using Eva table water since I installed my batteries. My installer that claim he sells distilled water always keep telling me next week(when he will have in store). Don't know the tds.

Obnoxious2001:
I think felicity charge controller are over hyped.

The performance is poor.

4* 250w panel (voc 36v) and I can not get up-to 35A -40A....

Am considering reconfiguring the panel to 2s2p as against 4p.....

Please share your thoughts.

24v system?.....sometimes quality of panel, orientation, tilt angle determines pv output

Yorubahdguy:
Okay boss. Thank you so much sir. I will keep you updated on the progress after I use it again and share with you the duration it lasts for.

Are you having better runtime now?....I believe you will enjoy your inverter system. Well done bro

Bambless1:
Thanks A Lot Senior man, in a situation where I can't get the additional panel, can I still use it in 2s4p for the mean time,

Yes you can

Bambless1:
Good Afternoon Guys, Please is eight units of 280watts Panels ,Ok For four 220ah Batteries (3.5kva 48v Inverter)

If you can, add additional panel and connect 3s3p.
My setup was 8 270w initially and I rarely get above 1000w solar generation. I added a panel recently and change it from 2s4p to 3s3p. The peak instant generation has jumped up to around 1.8kw. That's more than 50% increase

HilcomTech:
Good morning gurus in the house,

I installed my PV array in the series/parallel format as shown in the picture and it gave the following readings at peak

Isc=9.25A
Voc=96V

I am considering changing the arrangement to complete series since the MPPT CC can take PV input voltage of 230V

Would that be advisable?

Specs of your 250w panels....multiply the VOC by 6(number of panels available). If it's within your mppt cc maximum voltage, you are free to connect all in series

Juror:
What is the inverter model ?

Felicity IVCM

bigrovar:
Hello house,

Please can anyone using Felicity Solar hybrid inverter please share their experience? I am particularly interested in how well the built-in solar charge controller performs.

I will say it's ok....don't have a standalone mppt to compare. The peak harvest I got today is 1.79kw from a 2440w panels, I don't know if it could be better. The panels are 8 270w, I added 280w panel recently to make 9 panels configured at 3s3p