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Christianity Etc › Re: Ondo State Police :missing Baby Not Exhumed From Sotitobire Praise Chapel . by petra1(m): 6:24am On Dec 20, 2019

I wont be surprised if this Pastor is merely facing persecution . I have asked earlier "where is the evidence? . No missing child was found , no dead body exhumed. Yet people rejoice to spread every evil unverified news. Its satanic attack . Let's always work with proof

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Christianity Etc › Re: Prophet Alfa Babatunde Finally Confessed by petra1(m): 6:19am On Dec 20, 2019

I think it's a frame up . So far there has been no link establishing the pastor with the child . There is no evidence of buried bodies . We should be careful what news we jump to spread .

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Christianity Etc › Re: Donald Trump Will Be The Last President Of The USA by petra1(m): 3:36pm On Dec 19, 2019

frosbel2:
Coming from a deluded white Jesus cult worshipper,

is there a black jesus?

Christianity Etc › Re: Alfa Babatunde: Youths Burn Sotitobire Miracle Church In Akure Over Death Of Boy by petra1(m): 10:22am On Dec 19, 2019

Seun360:
Nigerians don't think critically, why will he use a church member's son that came for Sunday service? Knowing the aftermath.

Could be the handywork of his enemies.

What's the proof he took the child .

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Christianity Etc › Re: Deeper Life Wahala: The Testimony That Shocked Me In Church Today by petra1(m): 6:43am On Dec 19, 2019

Maestro21:
cc petra1

Ola now asks for evidence because Deeperlife is involved.

That's the hypocrisy. The bible says to judge righteously

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Christianity Etc › Re: Alfa Babatunde: Youths Burn Sotitobire Miracle Church In Akure Over Death Of Boy by petra1(m): 6:28am On Dec 19, 2019

Where is the evidence of dead child. It could be a set up. Let's work with facts .

Christianity Etc › Re: 2012 Acura Mdx Tokunbo In Ibadan @4.8m by petra1(m): 6:20am On Dec 19, 2019

How much and what's the mileage

Christianity Etc › Re: Must Women Wear Trouser/pants At All? by petra1(m): 6:18am On Dec 19, 2019

Image123:
I guess you fully agree, pastor Chris cannot err. Can he?

Anyone can err. But he didnt err here. Firstly the bible never condemn trouser. There was no trouser in bible days. In fact there was no difference between Male and female all wore the same national gown. And there was no difference in the style or fashion . Men wire same gone as women except other accessories like head covering.

Christianity Etc › Re: Benny Hinn Goes Back To His Vomit With Oyakhilome by petra1(m): 11:22pm On Dec 12, 2019

Maestro21:
I disagree on the above. He does not have good intentions. It is "My pastor is good and your pastor is bad". There is a love way of seeking clarification. I do not know where people get the boldness to call people they have never met names and think they are doing God a favor.

John 16:2
. . . the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service

Selective righteousness is freshly. When a man is busy attacking other churches and cover up the maggots and rotteness in his own . Jesus says to remove the log from your eye first. Thank God some G.O son are getting born again now.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Benny Hinn Goes Back To His Vomit With Oyakhilome by petra1(m): 6:13pm On Dec 12, 2019

Maestro21:
At no point did anyone tell people to sow in exchange for a blessing. But if anyone sows, it is biblical to have an expectation. If you disagree. Just denounce Christ and follow Sunday Adelaja or whoever you want to. You cannot be Christs and cherry-pick what part of his own words you want to believe.

Good word

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Christianity Etc › Re: Benny Hinn Goes Back To His Vomit With Oyakhilome by petra1(m): 6:10pm On Dec 12, 2019

OLAADEGBU:
"You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, you believe Me not" (John 8:44-45).

If you truly cared for the truth you would have discovered that your lords Chris Oyakhilome and TB Joshua are charlatans but because you don't care for the truth you've been given over to a strong delusion to believe the lie of your father the devil.

I have tried reach out to you by private mail and public thread but you refused. You chose to believe what you want to believe . You may have good intentions but your are sincerely wrong. I have therefore left your matter to the Lord so that I sin not with my mouth .

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Christianity Etc › Re: Benny Hinn Goes Back To His Vomit With Oyakhilome by petra1(m): 8:56am On Dec 12, 2019

Maestro21:
petra1

Once I see anyone quoting Sunday Adelaja. I know that one does not know God at all. The other one is a very well-known hypocrite who has lost his way. I admire your desire to speak truth at all times, but be careful with these lot. They don't know the lord.

I have learnt to stand for truth. Even though it comes at a cost many times . Sometimes you may have to stand alone. Shun the crowd. Follow scriptures.

Critics are mostly biased haters. They have no bible reference . When you ask them biblical questions they avoid it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Watch Pastor Chris And Benny Hinn On Prosperity Live by petra1(m): 5:42am On Dec 12, 2019

Joagbaje:
I am sure you had a blessed morning session . And those who misunderstood Pastor Benny Hinn can now have clearer undertanding of his perspective

Final session will be this evening 8pm GMT+1. same youtube channel

Christianity Etc › Re: Benny Hinn Goes Back To His Vomit With Oyakhilome by petra1(m): 5:32am On Dec 12, 2019

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What's wrong with these preachers? They collect tithe from local church, all branches remit 100% tithe to headquarter, they sell devotional materials, they collect seeds, firstfruits seeds, they collect special and sacrificial seeds AND YET, NEVER SATISFIED

Wrong, 1Cor 10:20 says what the gentiles give they sacrifice to devils. Likewise What Christians give they sacrifice to God and not to MOG.

they sell devotional materials. . .

The adelaja who's video you're broadcasting is he not selling book? As a matter of fact he use every video to advertise his book in the background while he hypocriticslly attack others for making merchandise of Gods people.

but still asking seeds for God to bless people.

Are they asking for money for themselves? Raising funds only give people opportunities to serve God in the Gospel and be blessed by it.

The God I know does NOT operate like MMM or baba ijebu....

Giving and receiving,sowing and reaping will always be a kingdom principle. Read the bible

2Co 9:6 — 2Co 9:7
But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

I said earlier that Benny Hinn was misquoted. Or misunderstood. He only said it's wrong to demand 1,000 dollars for a 24 hour miracle . And he said people should give to worship God .

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Christianity Etc › Re: Benny Hinn Returns To Prosperity Gospel With Pastor Chris by petra1(m): 12:26am On Dec 10, 2019

And What's wrong with fund raising for satellite stations?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 7:00am On Dec 06, 2019*

MuttleyLaff:
People have been known to want to buy the Holy spirit's source of power even when they were never under its influence. People, equally have been known to want to try tap into the Holy spirit's source of power, even when they were never under its influence and not permitted nor in a position, to in the first place, be tapping into the Holy spirit's source of power. There is nothing new under the sun, all these things will continue to happen until the end of time

Jesus didnt refer to those who are trying to tap but those who actually Healed others with his name and cast devils out. Jesus said it all below

Matthew 12:26
And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

Christianity Etc › Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 5:32am On Dec 06, 2019*

Finallydead:
I think my post answers your question.

Are you jiggaz? If you are , your post rather raise question which you have avoided to answer. At your spare time kindly read my post again and answer it . Or re-assess if what your post teaches is right or wrong

Christianity Etc › Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 1:38am On Dec 05, 2019

MuttleyLaff:
petra1, forget all that, just tell, and answer the question about, who are the people in Matthew 7:22 above then that did exploits in Jesus' name erhn petra1?

They are believers , ministers, but carnal

Christianity Etc › Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 3:47pm On Dec 04, 2019

MuttleyLaff:
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"²²Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name,
and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’
²³Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’"
- Matthew 7:22-23

What issue? So? OK then, who are the people in Matthew 7:22 above then that did exploits in Jesus' name erhn petra1?

The authority of the name of Jesus is given to believers. Unbelievers cant Use the power of his name . Remembered the Sons of Sceva . They tried to cast out devils with the name of christ yet they were none of his . The demon even replied them .

Acts 19:15
And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?

Christianity Etc › Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 6:33am On Dec 04, 2019

Jigazz, can you address the issue I raised

Christianity Etc › Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 7:23am On Dec 03, 2019

jiggaz:
The rendering of verse 22 of that Matthew 7 shows us that these false prophets have never at any time done this will of God rather they depended on their own efforts (their prophecies and other good works) as a criteria to enter into Heaven. Little wonder Jesus clearly stated His response to people like that in the next verse. “I never knew you.”

The name of Jesus can only be used by a believer. A non christian cant cast out devils in the name of Jesus .

Christianity Etc › Re: Lord Have We Not Prophesied In Your Name? A Closer Look At Matthew 7:21-23 by petra1(m): 7:20am On Dec 03, 2019

The name of Jesus can only be used by a believer. A non christian cant cast out devils in the name of Jesus .

Christianity Etc › Re: Mystery Tree Grew Inside A Car In France by petra1(m): 10:38am On Nov 29, 2019

MuttleyLaff:
It increasingly is becoming obvious that anything you dont understand or cant get the grips with, you attribute it to be as a result of witchcraft. You in a doubting Thomas style, still insist to see how Royal de Luxe created the art. You as an accomplished and commissioned artist, should know better nah. Should know about these things.

We should deal with fact not someone write up. Was the tree planted overnight and alive? Is the tree an dummy plastic tree. Was the three an existing tree there. Was the car dissembmed and assembled or none of this happened and its just a video editing or deren brown illusion things . There has to be an explanation . I will not just believe a write up which anyone can do.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mystery Tree Grew Inside A Car In France by petra1(m): 8:08am On Nov 29, 2019

MuttleyLaff:
Read on, for the proof in the below following pasted website link.

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Smh. Hmm.

http://www.hoaxorfact.com/pranks/unbelievable-tree-penetrates-car-france.html

Maybe you're right . But no blame me .I've see leg turn to tree by witchcraft. I've seen sick person vomit stone , lizard , long pin which entered them by witchcraft. But for this case a link to the making or installation of such would have been convincing to show it's an art.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mystery Tree Grew Inside A Car In France by petra1(m): 9:20pm On Nov 28, 2019*

I think its witcraft. It turned the driver into a tree. If the tree is dry hes dead,But if the tree is still green hes alive and can be restored by prayer

Christianity Etc › Re: Mystery Tree Grew Inside A Car In France by petra1(m): 9:18pm On Nov 28, 2019

ScepticalPyrrho:
OP, if you sheepishly believed it was really a tree that grew tbrough a car, you are a sheep.

If its otherwise kindly prove it.

Christianity Etc › Re: Brand New 30KVA Diesel Gen for your Mega Church in Ikeja by petra1(m): 8:31pm On Nov 27, 2019

1kBabyShoesNG:
1.9m

I thought you said 3.5million naira

1kBabyShoesNG:
*Brand New
*CAT MANTRAC
* 12months warranty
*Price: 3.5million Naira only.
Location : Ikeja

Any phone number?

Christianity Etc › Re: Abraham Daniels: Sacked Dunamis Pastor Blasts Pastors. Calls Them 'Businessmen' by petra1(m): 9:52am On Nov 26, 2019*

nelsonoba:
With 'Christians' like you around, the devil doesn't need to deploy too many demons around to do his work. The sad thing is that you're working for the devil for free

People like Buhari and Daddy freeze are getting paid at least temporarily for working for the devil to fight the body of Christ, but you offer your services to him for free. You have suddenly turned to motivational preacher on me. Lol! Please oga, open your eyes and see who is pulling the puppet strings that control you. Cos if your eyes open to see him, you won't need me to preach to you to genuinely repent

The truth of the matter is that the enemy of the church use the church to fight his fight and the bigger problem is the fact that everyone is right. we have reasons to justify our actions. i still believe we should stand on the word of christ JUDGE NOT , CONDEMN NOT. its not in our place. orthodox vs pentecostal pentecostal vs prophetic . everyone is right. we can't win this fight. if you abuse a man from morning till night it doesn't change him as long as he has a biblical reason for his action. by the way how do i know i am the one who is correct and the other guy is in error?."JUDGE NOT' Our public attacks only strenghtens the position of the enemy .

lets be careful of whistle disloyal blowers. Ahitiophel was a whistle blower against David , Joab was, and even David son ,Absalom. They were right in the eye of those who heard their grudges against king David. Paul also had Demas who left him. I'm sure Demas will have his story against Apostle Paul. people are gullible for evil report against the church. This is enemy strategy . we can't win against one another rather our public figh and attacks turns away the hearts of prospective seeker away from God since all they see us publishing is evil report from churches.

Mark 14:27
. . smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered.

ARE THERE WRONGS IN THE CHURCH.
There will always be issues in every denomination . No church is exempted .issue ranges from false prophet , false apostles ,false teachers and even False brethren . Mind you the fact that someone makes a mistake doesn’t make him false . But there are individuals that are planted in the body by the enemy to wreck havoc and bring dishonor to the body .

HOW DO WE APPROACH SUCH MATTER

We leave the judgments of such to God . Jesus was clear enough .

Matthew 13:24-30
Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? -- He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

We can see from the above scripture that it is God that purges his church . In our bid to do the work of God we bring damage to the body

So what do we do ? We intercede for the body . And we have right to teach against wrong to people under our jurisdiction according to our levels of authority . But God didn’t give us the ministry of condemnation and judgement

Romans 14:4-6
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Romans 14:10
But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Romans 14:12-13
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

Christianity Etc › Re: David Ibiyeomie To Sponsor 1000 Least Privileged Nigerians In Primary Schools by petra1(m): 5:47pm On Nov 25, 2019

Since 9 am this post was made. everybody day waka pass as though dem no see am. no likes , no shares. na evil report critics and carnal bros dey share and likes. grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by petra1(m): 12:04am On Nov 18, 2019

izzou:
. There is nowhere Jesus encourage shepherds to live on the proceeds of their members.

Mat 10:9 — Mat 10:10
Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.

Luke 8:3
Joanna, the wife of Chuza, Herod’s business manager; Susanna; and many others who were contributing from their own resources to support Jesus and his disciples.

Gal 6:6 — Gal 6:8
Let him who receives instruction in the Word [of God] share all good things with his teacher [contributing to his support].
Do not be deceived and deluded and misled; God will not allow Himself to be sneered at (scorned, disdained, or mockedby mere pretensions or professions, or by His precepts being set aside.) [He inevitably deludes himself who attempts to delude God.] For whatever a man sows, that andthat only is what he will reap.
For he who sows to his own flesh (lower nature, sensuality) will from the flesh reap decay and ruin and destruction, but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Need Deliverance-please Help by petra1(m): 6:01am On Nov 15, 2019

charity73:
Pls, can someone help me with a true man of God's number for a one on one deliverance.

I am dying slowly.

If you're based in Lagos send me a message

Christianity Etc › Re: TB Joshua: Why I Left South Sudan Quietly Without Thank You In Cash Or Kind by petra1(m): 5:00am On Nov 14, 2019

360degreess:
..Oga TB just say the truth, there was no enough gullible customers..

Which customer can be more than a president . Critics dont think

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