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Maestro21:
He won't answer the question because he wants to be able to denounce the same person when a video of him talking rubbish about Pasor WF Kumuyi is released.

That is the funny thing about hypocrites.

OLAADEGBU:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg0hvdgQknQ

Joagbaje, petra1, donnie et al. Your attention is needed here.

MiddleDimension:
your number 5 sounds very much like what the pharasees told jesus on the cross: YOU SAVE OTHERS, WHY CAN'T YOU SAVE YOUR SELF?
joagbaje what do you think?

coolcentbigman:
I really feel scared when i go through these passages/verses in the bible...
Why did God give such command His he truly merciful?? Why not spare the infants??

All these questions keeping springing up in my Head after reading these!

Here are the verses...



Deuteronomy 20:16-17: But in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God gives you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes, but you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittites and the Amorites, the Canaanites and the Per′izzites, the Hivites and the Jeb′usites, as the Lord your God has commanded.

Joshua 6:21: Then they utterly destroyed all in the city, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and asses, with the edge of the sword.

1 Samuel 15:3: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

This passages need to be explained pls...it's still confusing.

OLAADEGBU:
I can see how you craftily evaded mentioning Image123 when responding to his objection.

annyplenty:
SPIRITS OF RAPE, ROBBERY, HOMOSEXUALS, VIOLENCES AND MANY MORE (SPIRITS OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH) HAVE BEEN POURED OUT

On Friday, 12.48p.m in the afternoon, Nigerian time, I had a serious revelation which suggests that the days we are living now are terribly evil and that any moment the bride of Christ will be taken away.

In a dream, I saw my brother, whom we monitor end-time events together, and I stand together in a place that appears to be a room and it appeared as if a news broadcaster was casting news and was saying that the spirits of rape, robbery, homosexuals, violence and so on had been pour out. It seemed as if the broadcaster was also warning people to be careful when they go out at nights because those spirits poured out are going to be most operational at nights.

As we were discussing, my brother informed me that, in addition to those spirits poured out, he also witnessed spells being cast out from the internet to make internet users yield to the operations of those spirits. He recited some words of the spell being cast from the internet to me. They were some mysterious dark sentences. Then, I woke up and began to think about the dream. Then I concluded that those spirits poured out were the spirits of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Let us look at the Spiritual Analysis of the dream as follows.

SPIRITUAL ANALYSIS AND THE MESSAGE OF THE DREAM
Let us analyze this prophetic dream by placing it side by side with what happened in the days of Noah and in the days of Lot at Sodom and Gomorrah. We are going to be doing this from three perspectives- The Nature of evil behaviours of the days of Noah and Lot, Enormity of the evil behaviours of the days of Noah and Lot, Consequences of the evils of the days of Noah and Lot.

1-. THE NATURE OF THE EVIL BEHAVIOURS OF THE DAYS OF NOAH AND LOT
The Lord, Jesus Christ, told us that the days before his coming to rapture the saints would be like the days of Noah and the days of Lot at Sodom and Gomorrah. Let us look at the scripture below to confirm that.

Luke 17:26-28
26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

It then becomes our responsibility to find out those things that happened in those times of Noah and Lot and compare them with what are happening in our own time and see whether they match. The following are the summary of the great lawlessness and sins that characterised the times of Noah & Sodom and Gomorrah.

DAYS OF NOAH
Great & unrestrained Sexual Perversion
Gen 6:2,4
2.......... the sons of God saw the daughters of men …..they took them wives…..
4. The sons of God came in unto the daughters of men.


Great wickedness
Gen 6:5
5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth


Great Corruption
Gen 6:11, Gen 6:12
11 The earth also was corrup[/b]t before God
12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, [b]it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.


Great Violence
Gen 6:11, 13
11 And the earth was filled with violence.
13 for the earth is filled with violence through them;


DAYS OF LOT (SODOM & GOMORRAH)
Homosexuality
Gen 19:5
5 Where are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may know them.


Great wickedness
Gen 18:20, Gen 19:7
20 And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous.
7 And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly

2 Peter 2:7
7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked


Gang Rape, Violence and so on at Nights + All Night street hangings
Gen 19:2
2 ………turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, ……but we will abide in the street all night.


Great Violence
Gen 19:9
9 And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.

We can see the following conclusions from above scriptures about the natures of evils of the days of Noah and Lot (Sodom & Gomorrah).

- Fallen angels sleeping with women, men gang raping men, men intending to rape angels, were a few of the sexual abominations of the times of Noah and Lot.

- Terrible acts of wickedness were at an all time peak at both times of Noah and Lot at Sodom and Gomorrah.

- Seeing they were strangers, Lot begged the 2 angels not to stay on the street so that they would not be gang raped. homosexuality, violences, rape, were rampant in the streets, at that time, especially at nights,

- It was evident in the case of Lot that being violent was just necessary for the people if they must be successful with their planned wickness.

2- THE GREATNESS OF THE EVIL BEHAVIOURS OF THE DAYS OF NOAH AND LOT (SODOM AND GOMORRAH).
We have listed the 4 particular natures of the evils that set apart the generations of Noah and Lot (Sodom and Gomorrah). Let us now say that the evil behaviours of those days were so enormous (unequalled) so much that after those generations, those level of wickedness were never to be reached anymore except at the time when Jesus will be coming to rapture the saints. Let us look at the scripture to back up these claims.

i-, God, Himself saw the greatness of their wickedness.
Genesis 6:5
5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth

Genesis 18:20
20 And the LORD said, because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous.


ii-, The people were not willing to stop their wickedness.
Genesis 6:5
5 every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually


3- GOD’S RESPONSE TO THE GENERATIONS OF NOAH AND LOT

i- God withdrew His Spirit.
Since the people of the generation of Noah were not ready to repent of their evil (genesis 6:5) and it was the duty of The Spirit of God to convict them of their wickedness, God withdrew His Spirit. Since there was no more Holy Spirit at that time to restrain people from committing sins, the wickedness of the people became explosive till God eventually destroyed them with the great flood and saved Noah and His family.

Genesis 6:3
3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man,

ii- God rained fire on Sodom and Gomorrah.
Since the men of Sodom and Gomorrah had reached the level of the generation of Noah in terms of wickedness, God had to destroy them like those of the generation of Noah.

Genesis 19:24
19 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

MESSAGE OF THE DREAM
All the things that were mentioned to me in my dream which are rape, robbery, homosexualities, violences and more whose spirits were said to have been poured out were the wicked acts that were in abundance in the days of Noah and at Sodom and Gomorrah. You will see that each one of them falls under at least one of the categories of wickedness that characterized the times of Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah.

The following conclusions can be drawn.
i- Sexual perversions and abominations are going to reach a catastrophic level.
In recent times, we have seen countries legalize homosexualities, we have seen gay pride festivals being held across nations, we have heard of men sleeping with animals, we have heard of girls of less than 10-year old being raped, we have heard of teenage boys raping 80 to 90-year old woman, we have seen open pornography being aired on the television, we have seen transgender and many more.

However, what we have seen are nothing to compare to what is to come. All these abominations are going to explode to a catastrophic level – the level of the days of Noah and Sodom and Gomorrah.

ii- Night life in many places will be so unsafe.
Many evils and acts of wickedness will be taking place at night in many places. People should be very careful of their night lives so that they do not become victims of rape, gang-rape, robbery, molestation and so on. People should also be safety conscious in the day time as well.

iii- Many people will be exposed to spells from the internet.
The enemy has infiltrated every aspect of life including the internet. Please, do not engage in any frivolity on the internet. Only do what is necessary. Do not jump from social media into another. Be careful. Be guided. Only do the necessary.

iv- Eventually, God will remove His Spirit.
As it was in the days of Noah when God withdrew His Spirit, the Spirit of God will be withdrawn again.

2 Thessalonians 2:7-8
7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth (restrain) will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed

The scripture above makes us know that the Holy Spirit will be taken out of the way and then the antichrist will be revealed and that is the one who will allow all abominations without limit.

The withdrawal of The Holy Spirit indicates two things which are;

a- The bride of Christ will be removed (rapture) to escape the way Noah and his family, and Lot and his family were also removed to escape the final judgment of God.

b- God will eventually pour his final judgment on earth the way he did in the time of Noah and Lot.

Dear Bride of Christ, I believe with this analysis the message of this dream is adequately passed. Be separated like Noah and Lot. Do not be a partaker in the abominations and the evils of the world that you may escape like Noah and Lot.
The Holy Spirit will be removed any moment from now. Run to Him and let Him prepare you for the great escape.

Rapture is, indeed, imminent.

Shalom.

TO MAKE RAPTURE:
Confess your sins to JESUS CHRIST and ask Him to save you.
Repent of your sins constantly on daily basis and run away from sins.
Be filled with the Holy Spirit
Live in Holiness and Righteousness
Do all Restitutions
Cut off all worldliness.
Forgive all people.
Pray and fast.
Consecrate and study the bible.
Watch.

JESUScoming

I do not even know how this your false accusation caught my attention.

Is that how you have been lying on me without the fear of God. Don't be silly oh.

LordReed:
Ok, now how can we confirm that the video was actually shot in 1997 because the video was posted in 2013.

Meanwhile can we also note that he predicted that Hillary will be the US president.

LordReed:
Do that.
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LordReed:
Why is an omnipresent god running to do anything?

LordReed:
I have experienced the things you call prophecy and miracles and I remain unconvinced for the reasons I already gave.

All sorts of people claim to give prophecy so your god has done nothing special. I have given this challenge before, telling me my birth date since your god can reveal things that are secret

Cancer remission.

Maestro21:
As for the sexual perversion nonsense you keep harping on, it is nonsense brother. They have said he is faking the miracles and prophesies. To he is using magical powers. To now he is raping women.

TruthinAction:
. T B Joshua is not of God.

Pastor Chris I know is God sent

MrPresident1:
Be sober and continue to be watchful for the LORD's coming

MrPresident1:
Acts 20:31
Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

1 Thessalonians 5:6
Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

1 Peter 4:7
But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and watch unto prayer.

MrPresident1:
If you are a watcher, raise your hand

Ubenedictus:
no one says there is no hierarchy but it is a hierarchy of love not slavery.
Woman was always part of God's plan

Maestro21:
You put up the most laughable arguments ever and how you aim to brandish yourself as someone who is researched even makes it more comical. In 2002, 10 years into his marriage he is throwing shade at his wife and her father. In 2007, 15 years into the marriage he is doing same. But it takes his wonderful wife, 7 years after this to realize the shade? Someone just tried to pass this off as an intelligent comment.

In the realm of common sense, we call what you are trying to do revisionist nonsense. You have proceeded to accuse him of throwing shade now because he is divorced, for a message he preached 7 and even 12 years prior. Imagine if he used a hypothetical example of sons who disobeyed their fathers. I guess you would have to wait for eternity to find who the shade was directed at since he has no biological male children to be shading. Because in your distorted sense of reasoning, every example a teacher uses, must be somewhat related to his own personal life. I don't think your type of intelligence is useful to the world or the church.

Which segues into another not too useful way you tried to cover up your "ish" and "aner" misapplication. Contextualization is your friend and not your enemy. In Genesis 3:16, when the Bible says "her desire will be for her ish" it could very well translate to her desire will be for her man, but since the context here was referring to the man being hers it was contextually proper to use husband. That same word ish was used in Genesis 2:23 but there we see it translated and transliterated into its original meaning "man".

There is another word that was used as husband as well. Baal. In Jeremiah 31:32 when God says he is husband to his people the word translated as husband there is from the Hebrew baal which means master. So in that context the same word, husband did not mean man. It meant master.

Interestingly, in Hosea 2:16, the Bible says call me ishi and not baali. This could have very well been translated as call me your husband and not your husband but it will make no sense. So contextually it was more meaningful to say call me your man and not your master. Call me your husband and not your owner. This undeniably proves that the word husband contextually means man, master, ruler, owner. But whilst ish could mean man or husband. Baal unshakeably meant husband or master.

So if Pastor Chris says the word husband means master he was right by the Bible.

Now, why did God create male and female animals? That is not the right question. The right question is, why did God create male and female animals at the same time? Because of procreation. But when it came to man, the Bible says he created the man alone. It is important because Genesis 2 gives a more descriptive trail of events than Genesis 1 that was a summary. In Genesis 1, we understand that God placed male in female into the man he created. Then in Genesis 2, we see where God seems to have an epiphany and says it is not good that the man he created is alone. So he takes out the female in him and creates him a woman to help him.

You may not like the construction of the term but it is clear as day that the woman does appear to be an afterthought unlike the animals which he created at the same time. Which is why Paul expressly states by the holy spirit, that the woman was made for the man and not man for the woman (in other words, I did not make man because I had a woman in mind. I made a woman because I already made a man who was alone). Again, what does that imply? That since she was made because of the man. The man was the original idea and she was the secondary idea. It is not that hard to reason. There is a reason why something is called SECONDary. It is because it comes AFTER the first.

This pretentious and deceitful advocacy for egalitarianism in marriage you are trying to portray is contrary to the scripture. Pastor Chris teaches about the equality of male and female in Christendom but stresses that the dynamic changes in marriage. Unlike the error you have in your transcription, He also says that he wonders why many women in Christianity are so eager to get married considering how submissive the Bible expects them to be. In another teaching, he taught on how women's role in the union was to "lead from behind". So he was not emphasizing a master-slave relationship but only pointing out that the woman's authority in a marriage was not equal to her husband's. She was to be under his authority. And Paul taught EXACTLY the same and even advised women, that to him, it was better for them not to marry especially if they wanted to be leaders in the church. As that will put them under their husband's authority which could pose untoward consequences if the man in question was not godly or spiritual.

jesusjnr:
Lies! Lies!! Lies!!!

For if woman was not God's original idea, how come God at time of the conception of the idea of making man, used "let them" instead of "let him" on this occasion?

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

For how was the man going to turn to them if a woman was not God's original idea?

Woman was always an integral part of God's original idea to make man in His own image, and after His likeness, for she was the one that God intended to use to turn the man, into them.

Genesis 1:27 (KJV)

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

And everything was very good after God had made the woman.

Genesis 1:31 (KJV)

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Woman's problem began when she made man take the place of God in her life, for God her Maker was supposed to be her original Lord and Master, not man who was just her husband.

For that was what led her to disobedience of God's Word in the beginning.

And that was why God let her have her wish as a punishment that man shall rule over her, since she had chosen to please man instead of her maker by going contrary to His instructions.

But that punishment was reversed with the coming of her maker in the form of Man, called Jesus who reversed the curse of her sins, and reclaimed His position as her Lord and Master.

Hence His rebuke of the woman called Martha, so that she does not repeat the same mistake woman made in the beginning, in the process of trying to please man instead of her Lord and Maker.

Luke 10:41-42 (KJV)

41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

emmieohmz:
Pastor Chris is right

herlecks:
Bro, you seem confused. Jesus seized the kingdom after He died and resurrected or after the tribulation?

But the book of Revelation was written about 50 or 60 years after Jesus had ascended. Or you are thinking Jesus seized the kingdom of Israel? You are confusing Israel's history with the world's history! Is AD 70 end of the world?? Has the world ended now? I can't see a new heaven or earth anywhere around here, sir? The tribulation of Israel is the tribulation of the world? I can't see any world ruler forcing marks upon men! I can't see Satan been bound up in the lake of fire, in fact, he runs wide destroying lives! Go study the scripture prayerfully maybe you would see these things. Don't let demon feed you with lies that Jesus had come and gone, now you can live anyhow you want.

paxonel:
you may be right in this.
Afterall, it was recorded that Elijah was carried away

But the question i asked is, bring a scripture that assures that we will all be carried away by rapture. Certainly you will not find any.

paxonel:
dont come with this scripture you will fail

Look for something else.

We have reviewed this chapter from the beginning to the end, its talking about resurrection of the dead, not rapture.
If i am lying, read 1 cor 15:35 to the end of the chapter you will see it.

tstx:
Thirteen people were confirmed dead with sixteen others sustaining varying degrees of injury when a church collapsed in South Africa’s KwaZulu Natal province.

The incident which occured late Thursday took place at the Pentecost Church located at the Dlangubo area of eMpangeni in the province.

This incident happened after their church building collapsed on them during a Passover service, the state-run South African Broadcasting Corporation, SABC, said in its report.

Health officials say the building collapsed due to heavy rainfall in northern parts of the province. A team of government officials are set to visit the scene on Friday, the SABC report added.

The KwaZulu Natal provincial government has sent words of commiserations to the affected families with the promise of a full scale probe into the incident.

Ahead of a long Easter holiday, authorities are also tasking motorists to be responsible whiles using the roads. The season has often recorded accidents due to speeding and drunk driving hence the awareness creation efforts.
https://www.africanews.com/2019/04/19/south-africa-church-collapses-during-passover-13-killed-16-injured/

MuttleyLaff:
"¹⁴And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
¹⁵It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness.
Their end will correspond to their actions."
- 2 Corinthians 11:14-15

The synagogue, Church Of All Nations (i.e. SCOAN). Hmmm, how convenient to choose such naming and masquerading as a servant of righteousness. TB is a shaman, a false prophet and masquerading as a servant of righteousness, but you still and with shadeyinka are the last to know about it and the "synagogue of Satan"

Petra1 we are to make judgments not just about doctrine alone but people as well. Why cant you like in Luke 12:57, even judge for yourself what is right about and/or concerning TB being a shaman, a false prophet and masquerading as a servant of righteousness?

MuttleyLaff:
"⁹This man (i.e. the lawless one) will come to do the work of Satan with counterfeit power and signs and miracles.
¹⁰He will use every kind of evil deception to fool those on their way to destruction, because they refuse to love and accept the truth that would save them. "
- 2 Thessalonians 2:9-10

"²²Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?
²³“And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!"
- Matthew 7:22-23

Revelation 2:9b states that:
"I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

Or is it Revelation 3:9, we should mention, that says:
"Note this: I will make those from the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews and are not, but are lying--I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I have loved you."

Petra1, TB Joshua’s set-up, calls itself synagogue, but then in order to keep up a good appearance, look genuine and legitimate, appends the word "church", making itself: The synagogue, Church Of All Nations (i.e. SCOAN). Hmmm, how convenient and be masquerading as servants of righteousness

"¹⁴And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
¹⁵It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness.
Their end will correspond to their actions."
- 2 Corinthians 11:14-15
TB is a shaman, a false prophet and masquerading as a servant of righteousness, but you and shadeyinka are the last to know about it and the "synagogue of Satan"

Cant you see that it was the unbelieving Jews that worshipped in synagogues whilst the early believers met in homes.

MuttleyLaff:
The bible in Matthew 24:24 says:
"For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible."

petra1, you are not alone, you're in company with the likes of shadeyinka, who also famzings TB Joshua. One day, one day, monkey go go market, no go return back, is TB Joshua own. Mark it down, no be curse ooo.