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Christianity Etc › Re: Joseph Ifeanyichukwu Ezeking In Kenyan Court For Preaching Without Permit by petra1(m): 4:56am On Nov 14, 2019
Fadomero:
Church business as usual
Take it easy sister
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by petra1(m): 4:11am On Nov 09, 2019
MrPresident1:
Can you explain why you think it is about those that have died physically, please also break down the passage verse by verse as I did
The first way to understand scriptures is to take it literally. It is also helpful to read other translations


1Th 4:13 — 1Th 4:16
The Hope of the Resurrection
And now, dear brothers and sisters, we want you to know what will happen to the believers who have died so you will not grieve like people who have no hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and was raised to life again, we also believe that when Jesus returns, God will bring back with him the believers who have died.
We tell you this directly from the Lord: We who are still living when the Lord returns will not meet him ahead of those who have died. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, the believers who have died will rise from their graves
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Iginla Has A "Pool Of Betheseda" In His Church by petra1(m):
Goshen360:
. Many Christians didn't not even know Jesus had already rendered that pool of Bethesda null and void in his days.

Men like iginla are just merchandise of the Bible
Nothing is wrong in blessing a pool for the purpose of healing the sick . But what is wrong is demanding money for it
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did The Savior Say About The Commandments? Did He Contradict Moses? by petra1(m): 5:15pm On Nov 07, 2019
donnie:
WHAT DID THE SAVIOR SAY ABOUT THE COMMANDMENTS? DID HE (YAHUSHA HAMASHIACH) CONTRADICT MOSES? DID HE DO AWAY WITH THE LAW OF COMMANDMENTS... EG. KEEPING THE SABBATH HOLY?

Deuteronomy 4:5-10

5 Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the Lord my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it.

6 Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people.

7 For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the Lord our God is in all things that we call upon him for?

8 And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?

9 Only take heed to thyself, and keep thy soul diligently, lest thou forget the things which thine eyes have seen, and lest they depart from thy heart all the days of thy life: but teach them thy sons, and thy sons' sons;

10 Specially the day that thou stoodest before the Lord thy God in Horeb, when the Lord said unto me, Gather me the people together, and I will make them hear my words, that they may learn to fear me all the days that they shall live upon the earth, and that they may teach their children.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS...

SHALOM.
Paul made it clear that the law is holy and it's the law of God. The law contains certain principles which are for ever and some shadows as well which are fulfilled in christ
Christianity Etc › Re: Jesus is coming soon. This thread is for faithful watchmen by petra1(m): 9:24am On Nov 07, 2019
MrPresident1:
I want to explain this passage below: As Christ rose from the dead, so also those who wait upon him, who are asleep now will also rise up when God brings him back.

1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

The people of Christ are asleep. God's children are asleep, God has deadened them to understanding the true word. They cannot understand it. They are Godly people, but the LORD has deliberately put them to sleep. What mercy! What love! How can they be alive to all this nonsense that satan is doing? Ahh, nooo, they cannot handle it. Love has put them to complete sleep!

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
We believe that Jesus rose up from the dead, as Christians we say it all the time. He arose from the dead. We believe, and we know that Jesus died, and also rose up from the dead.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
Paul is alive and awake, he also has risen from the dead. Somebody like Frosbel2 is likely one of those old apostles now reincarnated. The mass of the people are still asleep, but the major apostles of old are all now risen from the dead-Paul, Amos, Timothy, Abraham, Deborah, James, John, Samson, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Peter, Mathew, Luke etc- they are all right now on the earth, moving and walking incognito. They trust God, they obey him, but they will not have the bullshit of organized religion!

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
The voice of the LORD is like thunder, this is the voice of the archangel. When the thunder of the LORD tears the heavens, the sound will snap the sleeping people out of their dreams! The trump of God is the sound of his victory. The trump of satan is mere words, the trump of God is earth shattering thunder!

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

You see, Paul is saying ''we which are alive'', so he is telling us that he, in addition with others, will be alive at that time. How does he mean ''to be alive''? Well, it means he will see above and beyond all the shenanigans of organized religion. These people will have the true fear of God because God has shown himself to them, but you will not find them to be overtly religious people. They may be religious, but not that kind of mumu or dubious religiosity that is so pervading nowadays. To be caught up in the clouds and to be with the LORD in the air does not mean that anyone will be levitating to the moon or God knows where, it simply means there will be a displacement reaction, Christ will take over rulership, and all the saved will be co-rulers with him Ephesians 2:2

18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words
We will continue to comfort ourselves with these blessed words and promises until God brings Jesus to us, and Christ is revealed from among us
The passage was about those christian
who had died physically.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fake Miracle Woman Pastors Use Confession (video) by petra1(m): 10:14am On Oct 26, 2019
As I said earlier, dont conclude until you interrogate the woman. She may be moving around seeking permanent solution . We must be objective in judgement until we have fact for or against

Broda Ola see your life.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fifth Pastor Spotted Using Woman With Bulgy Stunted Arm For Same Miracle by petra1(m): 10:18pm On Oct 25, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
(Matthew 24:4-5).

I can see that you've been deceived by the false christs and prophets that you have as your leaders. One is fondly referred to as Christ Oyakhilome by Joagbaje who is one of his disciples and another is called prophet TB Joshua. Joshua is also a name of Christ meaning Saviour. The charlatans posted on this thread all copy their manner of faking 'miracles.' You better repent and believe in the real Jesus as your Lord and Saviour before the day of reckoning approaches and the Lord separates the tares from the wheat.
Youre just blinded by your carnal religiosity. I will always stand for the body of christ it doesn't matter the denomination. Either its apostolic or your Deeper life , Unlike religious bigots who have no gospel to preach than gossip
Christianity Etc › Re: Fifth Pastor Spotted Using Woman With Bulgy Stunted Arm For Same Miracle by petra1(m): 9:15pm On Oct 25, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
I knew you would come here to justify your charlatan 'pastors' such as TB Joshua and Chris Oyakhilome, since you are all in the business together. The cat is already let out of the bag. Repent therefore, the day of reckoning is at hand.
I know news like these tickle you. God forgive your carnal mind. I'm committed to the body of christ . While carnal minded people like you join the enemy satan to attack the body before the world Instead of building it.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Okafor’s Publicist Speaks On Woman In Miracle With Five Pastors by petra1(m):
You are a goat.. God wasted precious oxygen on you
Mat 5:22 — Mat 5:23
But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Okafor’s Publicist Speaks On Woman In Miracle With Five Pastors by petra1(m): 9:01pm On Oct 25, 2019
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Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Chris Okafor’s Publicist Speaks On Woman In Miracle With Five Pastors by petra1(m): 9:00pm On Oct 25, 2019
MrPresident1:
The gift of God is without repentance. The one the son sets free is free indeed.
Sickness can come back and An Unclean Spirit can Return i'm not saying that's the case here anyway. But just to clear your assumption

John 5:14
Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, . Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you

Luke 11:24–26
When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. Then he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation
Christianity Etc › Re: Fifth Pastor Spotted Using Woman With Bulgy Stunted Arm For Same Miracle by petra1(m): 12:55pm On Oct 25, 2019
As I posted on the other thread ,She might have gotten healed and the affliction came back due to whatever reason. It is also possible she hadn’t received the miracle yet and she’s claiming it by faith from church to church hoping the affliction would be over. The third part could be a satanic set up for the purpose of rubishing the the ministry of healing . There was once a woman Satan used few years ago to try cause division among ministers. Claiming she had been to other churches and maltreated and they couldn’t deliver her despite the fact that they (allegedly )collected consultation money from her . she flattered each pastors how they delivered her unlike the other churches . She flattered you here and rubbish you there. Until she was exposed . She’s an agent of darkness .

But for this woman , she should be questioned . Let’s not throw stones until investigations . Some people do go to Programmes and pretend to be healed . I don’t know why . It does happen . We can’t deny the fact that some “false ministers” could have also been in the racket of faking healing . But we should deal with facts not assumptions lest we sin against God . The ministers here could have been victims of satanic set up. Please watch this video below


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUERsNHAPf0
Christianity Etc › Re: Benny Hinns Talks About His Association With Pastor Chris by petra1(m): 11:38am On Oct 25, 2019
Gombs you dey ghana ?
Christianity Etc › Re: We Have Been Lied To The Earth Is Flat And Not A Globe by petra1(m): 9:21pm On Oct 23, 2019
TrollKiller:
buy a helium balloon, attach a camera to it and let it ascend. you will know the truth,. these people are lying to you. your mumu don do grin grin grin grin
You dont need a helium balloon. I am a drone pilot. Just take a drone up into the cloud
Christianity Etc › Re: Must Women Wear Trouser/pants At All? by petra1(m): 12:26am On Oct 22, 2019
Christianity Etc › Re: How Did Jesus Cast Out Devils That Can't Go Out But By Fasting Without Fasting? by petra1(m): 5:57am On Oct 07, 2019
jesusjnr:
:

Why was Jesus able to cast out that kind of demon that could not go out but by prayer and fasting without fasting?

God bless.
Matthew 4:2
And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred
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Christianity Etc › Re: I Vowed To Give God My First Salary, Now I'm Broke And Need The Money. by petra1(m): 5:44am On Oct 07, 2019
jotax:
Please advice!
Can I use the money and pay with the next one?
I promised that when and if God gives me a job, I'll sow my first salary back to him. But now that it has come, I'm really broke and in need of the money. What should I do?
Any consequence for not paying it?
Deu 23:21 — Deu 23:23
When thou shalt vow a vow unto the Lord thy God, thou shalt not slack to pay it: for the Lord thy God will surely require it of thee; and it would be sin in thee. But if thou shalt forbear to vow, it shall be no sin in thee. That which is gone out of thy lips thou shalt keep and perform; even a freewill offering, according as thou hast vowed unto the Lord thy God, which thou hast promised with thy mouth.

Acts 18:18
And Paul after this tarried there yet a good while, and then took his leave of the brethren, and sailed thence into Syria, and with him Priscilla and Aquila; having shorn his head in Cenchrea: for he had a vow


Talk with your pastor
Christianity Etc › Re: PETETION TO SEUN: Please Create For Us A Christianity Section by petra1(m): 8:04am On Oct 01, 2019
GuestLog:
Signed. Any one who wants to comment in Christianity Section has to agree to accepting Jesus as Lord & Christ.
This will not be necessary. Gods kingdom is open to seekers. Some may come to the section to seek knowledge about the christian faith. Dont put anyone under compulsory obligation . Salvation is personal
Christianity Etc › Re: ? by petra1(m): 6:50am On Sep 30, 2019
uckennety:
Good morning house

Today is Sunday and as I was self studying I came upon something that I couldn't just believe!

I wish the house to shade more light on this topic as I can't believe that the bible especially the New Testament that is meant to set us free from the laws of Moses and give us redemption is actually supporting slavery and oppression.

So if am working or serving someone/organisation

He/she/they have the divine right to maltreat me and I should comply because it's the Christian way

Titus 2 vs 9
Ephesians 6 vs 5
1 Peter 2 vs 18


Please someone please enlighten me

Thanks
It's about learning tolerance and mastering love dying to self. When jesus said to turn the other cheek or love your enemy it's by same principle.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Deadly Doctrine Of "Don't Judge Me" by petra1(m): 6:19am On Sep 22, 2019
I sent a mail to you
Christianity Etc › Re: The Deadly Doctrine Of "Don't Judge Me" by petra1(m): 2:25pm On Sep 20, 2019
We quoted the bible. We didbt write it. It should be enough to counsel us all. Preach the gospel. Not gossip about others. It is a satanic ministry.. he is the accuser of the brethren .
There are bible grounds for correction , but not joining the world to bash one another Especially before unbelievers on public forum .

Those who are busy reaching the lost are too busy to attack their brethren .
Christianity Etc › Re: The Deadly Doctrine Of "Don't Judge Me" by petra1(m): 3:28am On Sep 20, 2019
Romans 14:4
Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.

James 4:11
Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.

Romans 14:10
But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Rom 14:12 — Rom 14:13
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way

James 4:11
Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Apply For 2019 NNPC Graduate Trainee And Experience Hire by petra1(m): 6:06pm On Sep 18, 2019
Jesusgirl92:
wink Yes I am
yes thou art girl
Christianity Etc › Re: Be Warned, Dr. Sunday Adelaja Is A Satanic Agent And Preaches Satanic Gospel by petra1(m): 6:28am On Sep 18, 2019
princevinco:
What you said is perfectly in order, but be sure that DSA will block you if you dare make a negative comment on his channel. It seems that my comments are so offensive to him that is why he blocked me because my comments reveal some of his dirty secrets he doesn't want Nigerian to know.
One just need to post truth along side his errors.
Christianity Etc › Re: Benny Hinn's Prosperity Gospel Message Started Here by petra1(m): 6:41am On Sep 17, 2019
There is nothing like prosperity Gospel. There is one Gospel which is christ and eternal life and the prosperity of the saints is part of it. Ther term came from critics .

Prosperity of saints is not the same as worldliness or living opulence lifestyle. Prosperity is living above poverty having your need met having more than enough to do the work of God and being a blessing to others through the gospel .

If for any reason anyone abuse the gospel. It doesn't change the gospel. God principle still abide.
Christianity Etc › Re: Be Warned, Dr. Sunday Adelaja Is A Satanic Agent And Preaches Satanic Gospel by petra1(m): 6:33am On Sep 17, 2019
princevinco:
Please I am not insulting him but is concerned about people whose faith can be over thrown by his satanic gospel.
What I will admonish is for you to subscribe to his channel on YouTube so that you can make comment . Clarify things and give bible references to supoort your point. he and his readers will see your comment. I do that too
Christianity Etc › Re: So Called "Psychic With Supernatural Powers", Unaware Police Were Coming For Her by petra1(m): 4:42am On Sep 13, 2019
Niflheim:
@petra1,

You only see in parts? Meaning?
If you go on YouTube you will see many prophetic seers. Live confirmed prophecies of past present and future. But that doesn't mean a prophet sees everything. People see according to the level of grace they have. Some see more. Some see at will . Some pray before they see. But nobody can see everything . The world is too big . Life is too big. You see what you're permitted to see at your level . Every one see to an extent dream is the lowest level. If you dream and it come to pass . Some regular some once in awhile. Others graduated to visions. Closed vision and the highest is open vision

1 Corinthians 13:12
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Pastors Collect Tithe And Imams Don't? by petra1(m): 4:30am On Sep 13, 2019
Tithe is given to God not the Pastor. Most pastors have their jobs as bankers ,lecturers, business men . It's a voluntary service for 90% of them only few receive salary from their ministry . Church money forms not belong to pastor
Christianity Etc › Re: How Would U Feel If Bible Was Just An Incentive To Keep Our Actions In Check? by petra1(m): 4:27am On Sep 13, 2019
The bible is a defender of itself. If you care to study it. If itsca conspiracy the prophecies would not have been real. The bible is a book of prophecies which many have come to pass. Like the scattering of Israel and their becoming a nation again. It talks of aeroplanes and other technologies coming like the tv and internet . It tells us of the future. An utopian one works government. It tells us that everyone will have microchip or laser mark on their forehead and hand . Which will serve as mobile atm card and identity card .
Christianity Etc › Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by petra1(m): 7:07am On Sep 12, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
8I am not commanding you to do this

There is a sucker born every minute to prey on or pray for,
and that is what people who peddle these kind of misleading information rely on

Why not acquaint members with all these financial responsibilities
and teach them about the principle of Generous & Cheerful Giving as found in 2 Corinthians 8:1-15 & 2 Corinthians 9:7
I doubt whether at all 2 Corinthians 8:12-13 is ever taken notice off
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A pastor teaches the whole counsel of God. Why do you think otherwise.

The bible teaches on hard labour, diligence to work, holiness ,righteousness, evangelism, prayer, giving to God ,giving to mog, giving to one another giving to the poor, giving for projects , giving to parents etc

Question is " why do critics criticise giving as though it is the only thing the pastor preach .


Re: Why Do Pastors Prefer Malachi To Deuteronomy When Preaching About Tithe? by MuttleyLaff: 11:30pm On Jan 22, 2017

Wtf, where's the faith, all along to be doing this non induced voluntary giving before, hmm?
Pastors teach every truth. Its critics that lay emphasis on the tithe . Are you saying the whole message of a pastor is on tithe or malachi for one hour every service ? Haba .
Christianity Etc › Re: Benny Hinn Repents Of The "Prosperity Gospel" - Daddy Freeze Reacts by petra1(m): 10:40pm On Sep 11, 2019
Maestro21:
I have read delusional people online who said they are the ones who even preached to him. I laughed. Pastor Benny has come out to say he started thinking down this line 2 or 3 years ago. People who can discern will know the recent influence he came in contact with in that time span. He has done 2 shows now telling people exactly what he was referring to which is exactly what you have above.
If you open your eyes you will see the logo that the station he was preaching is loveworld .studio which pastor Chris opened over about 2 years ago

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