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Christianity Etc › Re: IAmSabrina : Please Check This Out by petra1(m): 6:26pm On Apr 11, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Nwanne, long time, but I am sorry, you can tell that to the marines
1 Corinthians 12:3
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
Christianity Etc › Re: IAmSabrina : Please Check This Out by petra1(m): 9:30pm On Apr 10, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
TB is a charlatan, a fraud and a conman who exploits and takes advantage of people's desperation, vulnerabilities, ignorances, insecurities and hopes.

Jim Iyke was a desperate man, will to do and try anything to extend his mother failing health. He saw through TB, and wanted out, told his sisters to let them leave TB and take their mom to South Africa, but his suggestion fell on deaf ears, only to in his own words, for him to be overwhelmed by some force he couldn't explain and the rest is the ugly history


For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect, if that were possible.
- Matthew 24:24

Matthew 24:24 above, paints a good picture of TB and people like shadeyinka, petra1 joagbaje etcetera that famzing him
TB Joshua is a man of God
Christianity Etc › Re: What Kind Of Madness Is This In The Church by petra1(m): 9:47pm On Feb 20, 2019
Goshen360:
Listen to the scripture you quoted and listen to yourself....

It says if THERE'S NO INTERPRETATION OR INTERPRETER, LET THAT MAN KEEP QUIET IN THE CHURCH.....

Paul Enenche speaking in tongues IN THE CHURCH WITHOUT INTERPRETATION AND YOU SAID HE'S DOING THE RIGHT THING?

Go and re READ THAT VERSE YOU QUOTED IN MANY TRANSLATION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY ITS SAYING...
That is regarding prophesying in tongues. There is difference between talking to God in tongues and talking to people . God doesn't need interpretation so it is allowed to talk to God and to oneself . But If your tongue will involve hearing of others for participation, they need to know what you said
Christianity Etc › Re: Pastor Jonathan David: 'Buhari Will Win Nigeria’s Presidential Election by petra1(m): 12:35pm On Feb 19, 2019
The video didnt say such thing . He only prayed for Nigeria
Christianity Etc › Re: What Kind Of Madness Is This In The Church by petra1(m): 5:33pm On Feb 18, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Except you do such thing, you dont have to come defend the indenfensible, when there are guidelines in the bible that clearly and without doubt states not to be speaking in tongues without interpretation
That only applies to prophecy. Theres is difference between praying to God and speaking to Gods people in unknown tongues.

Besides that, why and what is the benefit, speaking in language you dont understanding what is being said? Why cant you, why dont you prefer to speak and/or pray in a language, you understand? Dont you want to know what the content(s) of you are saying are? Also where in the bible, had anyone pray in tongues, talkless pray openly in tongues?
When a man prays in the spirit it , is like charging a battery. It edfies him . It builds

1 Corinthians 14:4
He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

Jude 1:20
But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost
,

Secondly ,praying in tongues is the only way one can pray perfectly . when a man prays in the spirit it Is no longer him that prays . The holy ghost prays through him according to the will of God . So people pray in tongues because it's the best way to pray perfectly according to Gods will.

Rom 8:26
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


So we have to balance the two. We pray in the spirit and we pray also with our language of understanding .

1Co 14:14
For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Kind Of Madness Is This In The Church by petra1(m): 5:12pm On Feb 18, 2019
Goshen360:
Show us scripture sir that speaking in tongues is allowed in the public WITHOUT INTERPRETATION?
1 Corinthians 14:28
But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.


A man speak in tongues to edify himself or to pray to God. But if he must speak to Gods people or pray on their behalf to their hearing corporately he must interpret
Christianity Etc › Re: What Kind Of Madness Is This In The Church by petra1(m): 7:34am On Feb 18, 2019
Goshen360:
What are you talking about ABOUT KNOWING THE BIBLE OR NOT?

Isn't that madness that folks be speaking in tongues IN A WORSHIP GATHERING AND NOT IN THEIR PRIVACY? Where is speaking in tongues permitted IN THE PUBLIC WITHOUT INTERPRETATION?
Theres nothing out of place in the video. It is allowed by scriptures to pray openly in tongues its between you and God . And I am not aware that God needs our interpretation. Interpretation is only required if you are speaking for men or to men . But not to God.
Christianity Etc › Re: Methuselah Died In The Great Flood? by petra1(m): 6:18am On Jan 12, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Methuselah's death was a prophecy fulfilled on the about to happen flood
but also was a precursor to same flood

As long as Methuselah lived the flood was not sent, the flood is to be unleashed soon or any moment after he died
If remember correctly, I think, (i.e. so please dont quote me on this), it was 120 years after Methuselah's death, that the flood eventually came

#IfYouKnowYouKnow
If you know, you know
Yes o.The death of methusela brought in the flood..
Christianity Etc › Re: Daddy Freeze Is A Liar, Tithing Is Very Scriptural And Was Approved By Jesus by petra1(m): 8:32pm On Dec 24, 2018
I Thought you both are on same side
Christianity Etc › Re: Rhapsody Of Realities Daily Devotional by petra1(m): 7:02am On Dec 05, 2018
Awsome . Thanks always
Politics › Re: Buhari Was Not Cloned But He Has A Double– Nnamdi Kanu Replies FG by petra1(m): 8:15pm On Dec 04, 2018
Yes of course there is a difference between a clone and a double . Fidel Castro has a double , hitler had a double . Sadam Hussein had a look alike double .The diffence of the federal government is swaying to the issue of genetic cloning and some expert are giving reasons why cloning is impossible but the issue has not been about cloning but about a Double .
Christianity Etc › Re: John Chau's Death And Paul Enenche's Dome By Deji Yesufu by petra1(m):
Both Chau and Enenche are men of God . Everyone should focus on Gods call and assignment for their lives . I used to be like Chau , haven read many Missionary books like: Gods Smugglers ,The cross and the swichblade , Corrieten Boom , The Navigator etc . I wanted to die for Christ . It’s an extreme way of thinking . We should be more focus on living for Christ . A dead man can’t touch lives . We have a responsibility to keep ourselves alive and approach the gospel preaching by the wisdom of God .

As much as we are sent to the world , we are not sent to everybody . We must know the specific people God has sent us to . Such people will be prepared to receive our message . There is difference between personal zeal and adventure and assignment . Paul has so much desire for preaching to the Jews but that was not his calling . He was ready to die for them . Jesus told him they will not accept his preaching

Acts 22:18
. .And saw him saying unto me, Make haste, and get thee quickly out of Jerusalem: for they will not receive thy testimony concerning me.


Despite this message and many prophecies Paul was still adamant trying to die for the Jews.

I don’t blame chau but there are better ways we can reach those people . Like through relief packages schools , development etc
Christianity Etc › Re: Oyakhilome' Similar Teachings With Those Of The Rosicrucian Order, AMORC by petra1(m): 8:19pm On Oct 18, 2018
MiddleDimension:
god changed.
God change things but hew doesn't change
Christianity Etc › Re: Speaking In Tongues In Gospel Music. What It Might Shows. by petra1(m): 3:59am On Oct 16, 2018
Martinez19:
There are many ways religiotards unknowingly give themselves and their doctrines away eg. when they say "modern medicine is god's cure", "this grave tragedy is not god's fault", "prayers works but blah blah blah" etc. but today I shall focus on another aspect that might escape the attention of many. That aspect is the speaking in tongues seen in gospel music. To make a case that speaking in tongues is made up, consider the facts that gospel songs like any other song have to be written, rehearsed and the lyrics will have to suit the beat and tunes. It follows that the speaking of tongues in gospel music were formed, written, rehearsed and made to rhyme as appropriately deemed. In addition, the duration of the speaking in tongues determined beforehand. It would make sense that the so called gift of speaking in tongues is a dubious construct of man subject to his modification and directive anytime he wishes given that it is written, rehearsed(rehearsing tongues? grin), made to fit beats and tunes and the duration determined. Such tongues, as seen in the music, will probably be repeated on tours.

How can the wordings of this gift of the Holy spirit be written, rehearsed and made to fit music tunes and beats at the directive of gospel singers anyplace and anytime they want? Or can the holy spirit work like that or do gospel singers pull a fast one on us? Let's discuss!

Johnydon22, hopefulLandlord, Seun, 1Sharon, hahn, 0temSapien, HardMirror, Tozara, CAPSLOCKED, etc.
Tongues while singing is not rehearsed . The utterance differ each time .its like the way your bank token gives you different numbers each time you press it
Christianity Etc › Re: Oyakhilome' Similar Teachings With Those Of The Rosicrucian Order, AMORC by petra1(m): 3:52am On Oct 16, 2018
MiddleDimension:
You agree that the worship of the one you call almighty god, Jehovah, is not exclusive to judeo -Christianity?
As at that time yes, but things became different when God set up a system of worship
Christianity Etc › Re: Can Bible Gurus Help Answer These Questions? by petra1(m): 6:28am On Oct 12, 2018
nwabekeyi:
, how did specie of animals that are domicile in Africa, Australia and the Americas cross the seas and oceans to get to the Ark in Asia?
Firstly animals from Africa didn’t need to cross to Asia . There were enough specimen in Asia .

2. After the flood how did say for example an African lion and all other animals local to Africa cross the red or indian ocean to get back to Africa or how did kangaroos and other animals local to Australia cross the Indian ocean to get back to their locality from Asia, where the Noah's ark was built and where it stopped?
Probably continental drift hadn’t started . The world was once a land mass without seas and rivers . There were no continents

lefulefu:
The georgraphy of the earth as it is now wasnt like that then. In the early days there was no atlantic ocean or indian ocean. U talking of millions of yrs ago. Even withing a short time the geography of the earth changes and not to talk of millions or thousands of years. U need a geography guru to enlighten u and not a bible gurucheesy.
True, continental drift and the division of the earth started in the days of Peleg

Genesis 10:25
25 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan
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Christianity Etc › Re: Oyakhilome' Similar Teachings With Those Of The Rosicrucian Order, AMORC by petra1(m): 6:18am On Oct 12, 2018
MiddleDimension:
even at that, hinduism and the ancient Egyptians are still far older.
The worship of jehovah still far older than all religion.

Genesis 4:26
26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord
.

World religion was a result of pervasion
Christianity Etc › Re: Oyakhilome' Similar Teachings With Those Of The Rosicrucian Order, AMORC by petra1(m): 3:28pm On Oct 11, 2018
MiddleDimension:
meditation did not originate fromvthe bible. Judaism is not as old as Bhudism, .
I didn't quote judaism . Abraham came 400 years before judaism
Christianity Etc › Re: Oyakhilome' Similar Teachings With Those Of The Rosicrucian Order, AMORC by petra1(m): 10:02am On Oct 10, 2018
Certain Spiritual principles are universal. Mediation for example is applicable in most religion but it originated in the bible . isaac was the first man recorded to go to a quiet place to meditate.

Gen 24:63
And isaac went out to meditate in the field at evening tide
Christianity Etc › Re: Many Sinners Want To Stop Sinning But The Ten Commandments Cannot Save by petra1(m): 9:49pm On Sep 22, 2018
Modified ....
Christianity Etc › Re: Many Sinners Want To Stop Sinning But The Ten Commandments Cannot Save by petra1(m):
NewsOnline:
This is not true. Abraham did not have the Law yet he was made righteous in the sight of God. Why? Because he believed God. And today is looked upon as "the father of faith."

Joseph did not have the Law yet He knew that commiting adultery with Potiphar's wife is great wickedness.
They had law, but the oracles of God was not in a written document , it was verbally handed down . why would joseph call adultery 'wickedness if there was no law. there cannot be a sin if there is no law.

Rom 7:8
For without the law sin was dead.


The law is not of faith.
The law is good for reference as long as you don’t seek to be justified by it .

Romans 7:12
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good
.

Trying to keep the law in order to be righteous before God (after God gave His own Son to make us righteous!) is being FAITHLESS. There is no salvation here as "We are saved by Grace through faith..."

Try to obey the law in order to get right with God and be cut off from Christ: "For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God's grace." Galatians 5:4
If you observe , in all your quotes above . The the condemnation has to do with seeking justification through works of the law . Justification is by faith in Christ atonement . But I am talking about the moral content of the law . They are guiding principles .The law is a guide and reference for good and bad . If you throw away the law . From my perspective You throw morality away . The only reason you can’t marry your daughter or sister is because it’s against the law . Without the law there is no reference point for wrong and right . Kindly watch the movie “TIME CHANGER
Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by petra1(m): 2:39pm On Sep 13, 2018
OkaiCorne:
That means one has to obey all of the Laws either the weightier parts or less weightier parts isn't it?

Later you all say you are no longer under the Law...

Self contradiction...
i consented to the inteligent question he asked you. i am not an advocate of the law. my position has always been that tithes ,offerings,worship,fasting,intercession etc are principles in the kingdom of God just like any other kingdom principles. They transcend dispensations except issues where higher laws were given . eg animal blood vs blood of christ
Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by petra1(m): 11:39am On Sep 13, 2018
OkaiCorne:
Can you give examples of gentiles who God also asked to tithe?
Does God need to his them special instruction ? There was a structure of how to worship God. Even for proselytes

Exodus 12:49
49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.
Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by petra1(m): 11:24am On Sep 13, 2018
Image123:
At last, glory be to God you answered. What took you so long, research? Why do you obey the weighty matters of the law and like an hypocritical pharisee frown so much on the less weighty parts?
great is thy wisdom. ko ni tan mbe.
Christianity Etc › Re: The truth your pastor would not tell you about tithes by petra1(m): 8:16pm On Sep 10, 2018
Image123:
do you show mercy, faith or judgement? Or they are not for you? .
good question.
Christianity Etc › Re: Seers Only by petra1(m): 10:28am On Aug 11, 2018
apostle25:
Another example, you are praying for God to show you about your school destination but you see something else. You are praying for a job and you are not getting anything related to a job
you dealing with vision and revelations by prophetic gift is different from dealing with it as a christian. The gift of God are not given for self use but rather to minister to others in serving them. But dealing with personal need is not by gift or ministry office. The holy spirit is given to us to empower ,lead and guide in ministry. He leads and guide us in different ways. if you want direction on which school to chose for example, The answer does not need to come by dream or vision. it will be a mistake to wait for the direction in a particular way. He primarily leads us through inner witness and sometimes through vision or dream. Not every dream is from God. There are dreams from flesh and there are dreams from the devil. If someone is waiting for a direction from God and he want it in dream he may miss God, because God could have answered through a radio or tv preacher, or your own pastor in loval church or through the gift of prophecy through another brother and of course through you . but dont cage God
Christianity Etc › Re: Seers Only by petra1(m): 7:04am On Aug 11, 2018
apostle25:
who can help me with answers to this issue.
A BRO pray for God to reveal some things to him example a sister's marital problems but when he sees a vison or dreams its doesn't talk about the sisters marital issues. any one?
Except i dont understand you. why would anyone be praying to know someones marital issues . why not simply ask the sister questions about her marriage if there is need for such information. The gift of God is not to pry into people lives except they are submitted to such one . Well as I said ,I might have misunderstood your post.
Christianity Etc › Re: If Prophecy Is Not Prediction Why Can It Be Changed? by petra1(m): 7:39am On Aug 08, 2018
Goshen360:
So if there's no new testament prophecy and you read about prophecy in the new testament, what does it mean? To predict?
there is a general WOF movement doctrine that prophecy in the new testament is preaching and comfort. misinterpretation of 1Cor 14:4 has a lot of injury to prophetic ministry. there is difference between prophesying, The gift of prophecy and the office of the prophet. Someone can of course make prophetic declaration by faith and based on the knowledge of the bible and not necessarily by the gift of prophecy. the gift of prophecy has to do with divinely inspired utterance which can be accompanied by word of supernatural knowledge and wisdom. of course such a one may give comfort and exhortation as inspired and also experience ability to see ,know and predict but with all these ,that doesnt make the person a prophet. The prophet occupies an office . There is authority in his mouth. He can pronounce judgement on a nation,persons etc. He is a seer. i believe its the highest office. the principles about the prophetic is thesme in both old and new testament. One of the reasons prophetic ministry is attacked today is based on american teaching
Christianity Etc › Re: If Prophecy Is Not Prediction Why Can It Be Changed? by petra1(m): 9:22pm On Aug 06, 2018
Goshen360:
In the old testament, prophecy mean prediction but since the new testament is fulfillment of the old, prophecy doesn't mean prediction IN THE NEW TESTAMENT.
There is no new testament prophecy. in every generation A prophet will always be a prophet , and prophecy will always be prophecy,the seer will always be the seer
Christianity Etc › Re: Truth Behind Christ Embassy Healing School By Sir John by petra1(m): 7:14am On Jul 14, 2018
nnenneigbo:
Lmao, if you believe that, you must be the most gullible person on planet earth. Lmao
if dont believe that ,you must be the most gullible person on planet earth.
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Finds Refuge, Peace With Christ. Hallelujah! by petra1(m): 12:17am On Jul 14, 2018
sonofthunder:
Cc: Petra1 , Donnie, shadeyinka
Amen o. Atheism is not just a belief that theres no God but rather a denial of Gods existence as a rebellion against him over hurts, even though theres a witness of his existence within
Christianity Etc › Re: Man Compares Magician Who 'Walks In The Air' To Jesus (Photos) by petra1(m): 1:32am On Jul 01, 2018
He didn’t walk on air . It was on a tiny rope . See video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av1RcSQ5Qmk

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