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MuttleyLaff:
What we see here is the general lack of will to preach and teach voluntary giving

What is satanic is sidestepping, over stepping and overlooking the poor and needy, instead giving to already rich people
It is wrong to sow ideas to believers that if you dont comply ecclesiastical monitised tithe tax giving, financial misfortune shall befall them

Why dont we use Oshogbo as a faith test case?
Teach for about three months, on the principle of giving, bar ecclesiastical monitised tithe tax giving
Teach on caring response to need giving
and see how the reliance on ecclesiastical monitised tithe tax giving, will turn out to have all along been a false idea and/or belief
Further see how Yahweh Jirer will provide from voluntary giving

Voluntary giving has no inducement, no baits, no carrots, no fear tactics
It simply is, decide in your heart what really excites you to give
Don't give reluctantly or in response to pressure
You shouldn't be sorry that you gave or feel forced to give

What good are wings without the courage to fly
Petra1 do you think Oshogbo can go wrong, with this leap of faith?
Petra1 do you think embracing this superior principle of giving is not good enough for Oshogbo?
Petra1, be like a tree, let the dead leaves drop

There is no stick in Luke 6:38 and 2 Corinthians 9:6
There is no curse, no threat in Luke 6:38 and 2 Corinthians 9:6 but just plain good old teaching
There is no mention in Luke 6:38 and 2 Corinthians 9:6 of a fixed regular percentage or ecclesiastical monitised tithe tax giving

peteruuu:
So, tell me where it mentioned singing in "tongues" sir.

That's the problem at hand sir.

We know where Apostle Paul wrote "tongues" and we know where he wrote "sing with my spirit".

So, tell me whether he didn't know what he was writing or you'll tell me he actually meant " tongues" while writing "spirit".

The Bible is of no private interpretation, remember.

Shalom.

peteruuu:
It's of the devil.

There's no such a thing as "praying or singing in tongues" in the Holy Bible.

BigBashiru:
The motha fukka made me part with a large sum of money as "sowing a seed" in return for fool proof financial prosperity. Over 10 years have passed - I kept expecting the so cold financial covenant while I only got poorer.

Cursed be Benny Hinn! May termites eat up his stolen church funds. Others beware.

ChildOfJesus:
I have been battling marine spirits and curses for decades.
I have no idea exactly where they came from. My grandmother worshipp(ed) marine spirits and surprisingly i'm the only one being troubled by marine spirits. I'm almost 40. I have no husband, no guy shows interest in me.I have no friends, people don't want to have anything to do with me. I asked a relative of mine, why i'm the only one suffering, while the others have careers, a home, husbands/wives and friends. She said it's because it is whoever they made a covenant with that the marine spirits will go and meet.

I had a revelation where two people shook hands over a river and another dream where a bottle with liquid content in it was inside a river. I once went to bar beach as a little girl and i lost my shoe

I also remember as a little girl (age 3 or4) having sex with someone a few years older. He was probably 8 or 10 years old

I remember my grandmother using dirty clothes belonging to other family members to cover me up.
And i remember eating rice that were filled with stones and sands. It was in a pot outside the house and there was no one around
I have noticed that people usually place curses on me.

Whenever i go out there are people following me( I believe they are marine spirits) I asked my grandmother and she said they are marine spirits. I asked her why i'm the only one going through it, she said ' Go and ask Jesus'

When i told her i was making progress in an area of my life. I told her my plans and she said ' For where should that ever happen?'

The interesting thing is she says i'm her favourite granddaughter and person in the family.

There was a time my skin tone was changing, even though i use the same cream. A relative of mine noticed it and wondered what's going on. My grandmothe said to me' Don't you have cream anymore?' Even though she knows my skin tone has never relied on any cream to be the colour it is. I have noticed since last year that my jaw area and mouth area are changing shape and my jaw is now hyperactive


I have been praying and begging God to save me . It's like i don't exist(people don't lke being around me)
2017, I was at the busstop when a womans face changed from a white woman to the face of my grandmother

Sometimes, i feel like it's not my grandmother behind it, that it's marine spirits using her image and other times i don't konw what to think since i'm the only one going through this kind of problem and they never told me it was marine spirits troubling me even though they knew. They were taking me to hospital or calling me a bad child. It was a relative, who told me it's marine spirits, and when i confronted my grandmother, she said yes it's true, but why didn't she tell me that before ? I also remember the daughter of another relative i stayed with back in Nigeria calling me 'mammy water' as a little child, but i thought she was only joking, but i later found out that her mother told her i had marine spirit trouble but didn't tell me but was calling me a bad child and she eventually sent me away, instead of taking me for deliverance or atleast trying to help me

Another time, i saw an uncle of mine in Europe, in the little town i'm staying, but he was actually in Nigeria. I thought it was marine spirits using his face to make me suspect him, but i honestly don't know what to think or what is going on.

I offended(it was actually a misunderstanding) another uncle of mine and he said ' If i'm against you, yo will not succeed in life' I have gone to beg him, over 10 years ago, to ask for forgiveness but i'm yet to see success in my life(whether career, marriage, friendships, or being an active member of a church(people don't sit on the same row with me. I attend a white cjhurch, you'd think it's racism, but it 's more than that) They have black church workers

I had a dream where a woman said' Well, if she says she wants to leave, let her leave' and another one where i was in a group and i was crying saying' I want to go home' a woman was leading the grpup. I believe the dream about the woman saying i can leave is a good dream but that was almost 15 years ago but i'm still suffering today

Another dream was where i threathened a woman to give me what she took from me otherwise i'd report her. I belive that is glory robbery. But who was the woman? I couldn't recognize her face



I have been praying but i'm still suffering. Please, somebody help me in Jesus name. What should i do?

Maestro21:
She has evidence and did not go to court? How? Who does that?

How do you put evidence in a book?
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Maestro21:
If Jesus was walking amongst us today. How will he be treated? What lies do you think will be said about him?

asuustrike1:
Now am asking you

asuustrike1:
Did you say all these when Johnson Suleman and Fatoyinbo were accused?

hakeem4:
you decided to cite an apologist website as your source this shows houw intellectually dishonest you are. can you bring out any peered review archaeological document to support your claim.



3) well since you claim the the god promised them a land cant be tested so we will leave this claim out. its the same as saying god promised Nigerians this land so god is real. that is a non sequitur



The bible is not a person . Its compilations of writings of men across ages ,generations and location who never knew or influence each other. Yet the message is consistent.

The bible was compiled thousands of years ago. Yet it's more current than today's paper. Have you critically looked at the fulfilment of israel being a Nation? . The accuracy of the prophecy.


well that is your opinion. you can decide to think the bible is now more current than google itself. it does not change the fact that the bible is a book of myth written by iron age men who did not even know the earth orbited the sun. there is no wisdom in that book

LordReed:
You need to go look at the origins of the bible a little more closely.

Some of these your notions of what the bible is will evaporate.

hakeem4:
1) no single evidence for the Jews in Egypt apart from the bible, Koran and Torah. there is no archaeological evidence that the Israeli ever lived in Egypt. so god is wrong

the bible just wrote the story. it never predicted anything

hakeem4:
only a bigger fool will accept something without evidence.

Bukolar1:
OK. so how come pastors don't encourage the church to practice the Feast type of tithing or the third type?. Only Malachi 3:8-10 is preached every Sunday. Making Christians feel quilts, all the time. God help us

MuttleyLaff:
, and like I've earlier numerously said, turn it into glorified "ògèdè" and/or "ọfọ̀" and/or incantation recitations[/color][/i]"
- Re: Praying In Tongues : The Weapon That Builds You Up - Joseph Prince Sermon Notes by MuttleyLaff: 12:35am On Mar 12

wacuc0:
When Chris (Christ Embassy) was caught some year ago doing fake miracle of raising the dead, did we hear the case again?
All his healing school etc.

Victorious12:
But the call of God is sure upon him
Anointed to the call


Pls help me

OLAADEGBU:
How about talking on the topic such as Abdulfatai (a.k.a. Tb Joshua) and Chris Oyakhilome bringing witchcraft into Christendom?

Ranchhoddas:
Na today?

The idea of rapture is as ridiculous as it is childish.
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What exactly is an all powerful god waiting for?

Anas09:
I need a scriptural discussion based on the Op, not discussion outside the Op.

Did God create these things?

If Yes, for who?

What is wrong with the People of God have wealth?

If the Patriarchs lived today, wld we regard them as materially minded and not true followers of God?

I'm itching to flood this thread with prosperity based scriptures.

Anyone?

OLAADEGBU:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxnFVwl7Brw

Follow the evidence not the messenger.