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connectikut89:
All first things belong to God. I agree. But because all things belong to God, we must redeem all things in church abi? You're saying we should redeem our first house, first car, first iPhone, first contract, first anything

You know you did ask us to let the viewers judge. I hope they see how you and your other pastors insult their sensibilities in a bid to swindle them of their hard-earned money.

Oga show us bible verse where God required tithes or first fruits to be primarily money and stop giving us semantics. Money was always conditional.

Frauds!!

Freeze007:
Now you talking like you have God's manual for operation. He can because He promised that He would come.
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superhumanist:
None of my business.

First fruit is a scam

superhumanist:
Where is it said that those shekels are the first salary? Those shekels are for the preists to redeem from the first fruit offerings. Meaning that the shekels are a month late given the stipulation of 1 month after the first sons are offered

Icecream4U:
He told me he made some financial commitment in his church. What about your January salary? I asked. At least, I can support you with like 50k so you can add to it to pay the rent but I was shocked when he told me he has given it to his pastor as "first fruit" as he normally does.

Chineke! My mouth was wide open. I couldn't believe what my ears just heard. How could a full grown man sink himself into an avoidable financial difficulty and go about looking for money to borrow? Could it be jazz?

Proudgorgeousga:
maybe it was deleted because people left the discussion topic and started discussing and psycho-analyzing seun. it looked awkward. it was kinda insulting. my opinion tho

superhumanist:
Ogbeni stop talking nonsense. The point is that money has never been first fruit.

The money mentioned in the verses were not even the first of anything.

superhumanist:
In all the instances, first fruit has always been agric produce or farm animals.

superhumanist:
FALSE!

Reading the whole chapter (Numbers 18) shows that the instructions there were for Aaron from God. It is clearly stated that the animals and fruits/grain were the first fruits that were offered to the lord. The shekels or money mentioned in verse 15-16 were for Aaron to redeem certain animals for himself- the money itself is not first fruit from the congregation of isreal

connectikut89:
If I call you mumu now you'll say I'm being carnal and insulting. You are a blind fool

. How is the verse you have mentioned congruent to what Pastors of nowadays call First fruits?

superhumanist:
Where in the Bible was first fruit given in money?

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superhumanist:
There is a clear difference in spending big and giving away almost all your money.

At least, he has never spent 1.5 million on drinks unlike the first fruit.

superhumanist:
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Apparently, he gave almost all of his income in January to his church in the name of first fruit

I am so pissed at how churches have brainwashed hardworking, educated people. It is also important to point out that as a big boy, John spends big

and also borrows big.....

and so, I am burdened with lending him a huge amount till he recovers from the first fruit blow to his account.

Nutase:
Those are not threats. What you call threat is another mans faith nugget. Let's learn to respect our differences. We all can never share the same opinion on issues.

hakeem4:
pay your tithes so things wont be tight for you... the bigger your offerings the smaller your suffering

ultron12345:
hell fire, poverty, punishment from God for robbing him

ultron12345:
but u are been threatened to give

ultron12345:
is that voluntary, when they threaten u with poverty and hell fire and tell u u are robbing ur revered God, why won't u pay, u were forced to pay. Its a case of "willingly giving against your will"

connectikut89:
do not lie against The Father.

ufidelis:
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YOU SAID WE TITHE BASED ON ABRAHAM REVELATION. BUT THERE IS NO REVELATION LIKE THAT. WHAT HAPPENED WAS THAT ABRAHAM TITHE ONCE IN HIS LIFETIME OF 175 YRS & HE TITHED OUT OF HIS BOOTIES, THINGS HE STOLE FROM VICTIMS OF WAR. HE IS A BAD EXAMPLE.

YOU FORGOT TO MENTIONED THAT ANYTHING GIVEN TO GOD MUST BE BURNED UNT TO ROBBING GOD

. " for as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is is everyone that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them".

SO U SEE. IF YOU MUST TITHE, THEN U CANNOT IGNORE THE OTHER PART OF THE LAW THAT COMMANDS THAT U SHOULD STONE TO DEATH THOSE WHO VIOLATE THE COMMANDMENTS OF THE LAW. INFACT, ALL OTHER SHARIA LAWS GIVEN BY GOD DURING THAT SAME TIME SHOULD GO WITH IT!

connectikut89:
Oga you will forever be a nitwit. No amount of bible verses you read can change that. Was Jesus addressing his disciples? Was he addressing his followers? He was addressing the Pharisees you fool. You want to be Christ-like, walk in His steps. He never gave tithes, He never asked his disciples and followers to. Neither did Paul, Peter, John or any other Apostle. Until you show us instances stop being silly
And I see some of your other replies saying Tithing predates the Law of Moses. I agree Abraham and Jacob gave a tenth once in their lifetime.

Joseph never gave a tenth yet God bestowed a great gift upon him and he was a great and successful man so what's your point? Stop defending the indefensible abeg

MosesAlex:
Mark 15: 40 Acknowledges that the mother of James the less is also the mother of Joseph. Hence James and Joseph are brothers. So with this we can see that James the less, Jude and Joseph listed as brothers of Jesus in Matthew 13:55 have been identified

ufidelis:
the Levite are a tribe of people who no more exist.

No levite, no tithe