₦airaland Forum

delishpot:
Backward family. What do they mean by they shielded her from some traditional practices done by widows? When will they free women sef? Its a shame they make their women go through he'll after losing their husbands.
Wetin concern them for the mans church? Were they running it for them when he was alive? Why don't they allow his widow handle the affairs her by late husband and her laboured for?
All these bullshit widows face sef. Gods judgement would be plenty for some people sha. Scavengers of by human misery

Can't you see that all they want is to retain the Goose that lays the golden eggs, the money-spinning church ?
The widow, in their greedy eyes, is both a liability and and an obstacle to their greedy ambitions.

Hagm0nd:
Yoruba and igbos don't hate each other,if they do..the consequence will just be devastating.
My first contact with nairaland, I thought I was in a forbidden jungle/war front.I even wrote something like this..
Its just the unfortunate situation we found ourselves in,the effects of the mistakes and wrongdoings of our fathers and leaders

It is the legacy of bad leadership that makes people think that they have to hate or despise other tribes for the sake of their survival.
Reality says the opposite.
We have to stand together and defend each other in order to survive.
Obviously many feel different.

thisisthetruth:
Greedy? People are paying money from their own pocket and they are greedy? For your information, even the last car used by the late rev was given to him by his elder brother
And for the records church is not business, and yes they have financial obligations and some do run into deficit. Please before your post again, just google the name and know his family

Irrespective of that, when did business obligations take primacy over the well-being, comfort and emotional stability of the immediate mourning widow ?

They have shown that they are more interested in the Goose that lays the golden eggs, than their brother's widow whom they probably consider a liability and hindrance for their ambitions.

The scenario being enacted here is not new here in Nigeria.
We see it all the time.

So, no amount of whitewashing can change this brazen act of brigandage for what it is.

saints2:
Let the change begin from Aso Rock oo



lalassticlala

What a comical irony.

Which Nigerians should change begin with?

The President proudly practices NEPOTISM, the grand parent of corruption.

The legislators earn N30m per month, 1666 times what the average worker earns.
Meanwhile, they pad the budget by tens and hundreds of billions.

The police and customs continue their extortion rackets unabashed and unabated.

Area boys continue to extort about half a trillion Naira a yearfrom Lagos alone.

We continue to run a dual foreign exchange system for the very simple fact that Nigerian banks are too corrupt to sell fx directly to the public.

Yet, the government is clowning us, the victim masses, that change starts with us, our hungry tummies,.. a cunning way of shifting guilt and responsibility back to us.

What a country.

tempest01:
The state government calling for him to be transferred to them from dss to face charges...are they the police?

Why then did the dss arrest him?

More to the issue is that defamation is a civil issue, not a criminal issue.
Whoever felt defamed Should sue the blogger, or at the least, get an injunction prohibiting him from further defamatory acts.

What is this democracy turning into ?

thisisthetruth:
Obviously you didn't understand the statement, read it again, it says the family is already paying the debt owed by the ministry.. That's their aim, helping to sustain his legacy, since when did that become wickedness, maybe you should do a little research about the family and find out for yourself that they are not poor people, or go to the church yourself and ask questions

Bullshyte.
They are still mourning, and the supposed creditors of the ministry are already knocking at the door?

Which church business in Nigeria Runs a deficit ?
Even if, shouldn't the welfare of the man's widow and kids, if any, be their immediate priority ?

From what source are they supposedly paying off the ministry's debts, their own pockets or from the ministry's money-tree?

If you can believe that these greedy family members are just being altruistic, then you can believe anything.

salauwale:
Wether it is schnapps or red wine or palm wine, too many gods like alcohol. Alcohol is the holy water. (Won't mention names though)

You're quite ignorant.

The pouring of libations of wine is a symbolic gesture of thanks giving to the Nature gods who are assumed to have made it possible for the palm tree to naturally ferment sweet, healthy wine, and for grapes from which other forms of alcohol are derived.

In the early days of Christianity, it was actually forbidden NOT to drink wine.

A useless family.

From their statement, everyone can see the disguised greed and wickedness of this so-called family.

Are there laws in this country,or is this country truly a wild jungle like most people have termed it ?

What gives these greedy vampires the right to take over the business( ministry?) of the deceased while he has a surviving widow ?

Where are the human and womens rights lawyers when they are urgently needed ?

progress69:
Oga u have zero intelligence in the matters u are dabbling into

Well then sir,
Perhaps your time would be better spent lending your economic intelligence to the buffoons in Aso Rock, instead of insulting our collective intelligence here on your paid image laundering job.

dafuturis:
Go back to your economics textbooks, read topics on population and economy size then you will know how unintelligent you sound to compare OBJ Nigeria and present day Nigeria.

Oh.

So you mean to say that the size of the Nigerian economy did actually grow substantially from 1999 to 2015 ?

Really?

What an interesting revelation.

Geez!!
You must be certified genius.

progress69:
Now i know u are just one of this baby importers, AliExpress and co, that wont let us hear word. Between the period mentioned, more then 30bn dollars was used to defend the Naira and economy yet naira still lost more than 20% of its value. I must emphasize that crude oil was still selling far above $50 per barrel.
Today oil have sold below $50/barrel for over a year, and a reduced production rate of 1400 million barrels per day due to terrorists activities in the Niger Delta. I don't need to remind u that a palty $30bn was left in the reserves when the new govt came in, now tell me if the previous governments spent more than $20bn to defend the naira then with oil still selling above $50usd, what should happen now with a reserve of just abot $30bn left, and other factors mentioned b4...? A booming economy or strong Naira. Face reality. Oil sold for ab avearge of $100 from 2012 tp 2014....where is all the money?

Sharap there again.

How much was oil sold for the period that OBJ inherited a totally dilapidated economy ?
What did he do?
Obj didn't invite his extended family to run the economy.
He invited tested technocrats who took the bull by horns to stabilize and grow the economy.

He didn't run his administration by propaganda.
And he took responsibility for the affairs of the nation.

What we have today is a pathetic EXCUSE(s) (pun intended) for a leader.
A certified and unabashed NEPOTIST who doesn't know the first thing about leadership: Taking responsibility.

Buhari will earn the historical epithet as " Buhari The Blameless ".

Anyone still making excuses for Buhari, a year and half into his administration Should be thoroughly ashamed of him or herself.

Very Interesting indeed.

There is not one scenario or notion that I have not contemplated at one time or another.

And there isn't any notion that I would fundamentally disagree with.

The notion that the Earth is a zoological lab for a much higher species is the one I find most probable, due some uncanny personal experiences I have had.

My notion that consciousness is nothing Devine, but simply the agglomeration of interactive information is also supported.

The implications for morality are non- existent.
Morality, as we have debated often here on NL, is an evolving characteristic of a conscious and self aware mind. Our moral thresholds will continue evolve, as long as we in this bubble, irrespective of whether it's real or a simulation.

The implications on the existence of god is self-evident. If we are the products of a simulation or a lab experiment, then obviously who ever is pulling the strings wins the almighty God award.
Abi?

If we are bits of energy and information, then obviously the cessation of biological life would simply be just another form of energy transformation.

So, while the biological shell disintegrates into it's various elementary components, the vital energy remains, but simply transfers.

DeepSight:
I called you somewhere sire

And yes, your wordy majesty

I shall be with you shortly.

wirinet:
From my teens to my 30's I also read lots of spiritual books based on eastern philosophies and religions. I bought, read and digested all Lobsang Rampa's seventeen ( or is it eighteen) books. I even read the one he said was written by his cat. I read 2 of Carlos castaneda's books. I practiced astral travelling, meditations, aura reading, psychometry, etc. These " spiritual" activities took so much of my time and energies that my academics began to suffer.
At the end of the day, I achieved what the easterners would call "enlightenment" by asking just one question;
What is the purpose of all these?
I then came to the realization that the purpose of life first of all is survival, then survive to add your energy ( maybe genes, ideas, organic materials, etc) back into the universe, for the universe to continue on its evolutionary journey. I then refocused my life to graduating with good grades, getting a job or starting a business, finding a beautiful woman with whom I can pass my genes, providing for and raising my children with good values that will ensure their survival and helping others as much as I can. I believe I am doing a good job of those goals.

I later learnt that all those spiritual gurus were fake, just like past religious masters. Even thought I now know that losang Rampa was fake, his philosophies still shaped my life.
You can read about the fakery of Carlos Castaneda here - http://www.salon.com/2007/04/12/castaneda/
He even started a cult whereby young vulnerable women cut themselves completely from the world and submit themselves to him. 4 of them is speculated to have committed suicide on hearing of his death.

You seem very confused, I do not know how you can marry the Christian philosophy with the teachings and voodism of Carlos Castaneda. The two are diametrically opposite. How would you use your bible to justify using lizards to see who stole something or shifting your form into a cat?

Life is short and resources are limited, use your time and resources to improve yourself and achieve great things instead of wasting them on spiritual highs ( spiritual activities seems to stimulate centres of the brain that makes people have a feeling of euphoria, just like psychotic drugs)

Simply amazing.
It seems the minds of most atheists evolve in pretty much the same way.

Like you, I gobbled up all of Lopsang Rampa's books, and pretty much any esoteric literature I could get my hands on.
I do admit that I learned quite a bit, as no knowledge is a waste.

And like you, I reached a point where I asked " So what, what is all this about at the end of the day's ?
As a species, survival comes first, after that the most you csn do is add whatever you can to the dynamic process of evolution.

I look back and I realize that the men , whom anyone hardly remembers, who researched and found a cure for leprosy did a million times more for humanity than the gurus, spiritual masters, the chosen prophets, the Jesuses, the Mohammeds, the Buddhas all combined since the advent humans on Earth.

Louise Pasteur did more for humanity that all Gods combined.

Your post has just inspired me with a new thread on these spiritual mumbo jumbos.

sonofluc1fer:
In summary..


Wisdom is making a claim without any evidence to back it up.
To refute another's claim, you must provide evidence that there's no evidence that supports the original claim. Lol. Wetin person no go read for this NL.

I tire.

Two international fraudsters in one venue.

A herd of sheep will always attract a horde of wolves.

Last time sly fox Benny Hinn came to defraud Nigerians, Adeboye showed him that here in Nigeria, we play that fraud game much better than anyone else.

Let's watch and see how he fares with his Nigerian counterpart, sly fox Oyaks.

jpphilips:
Wow!! how old are you please?

Are you pretending to make any kind of sense ?

aresa:
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This is the most ridiculous, absurd and idiotic nonsense ever read on NL..

I have observed that those who childishly cancel other people's post are usually people who have no points, no arguments to offer.
It is akin to a violent lashout.

aresa:
1. There is a clear difference between the 2 regardless under what they are.


2. The job titles, daily duties and obligations are not the same hence setting up a different agency and an ICT professional to handle it.

The difference between the 2 is 2 different entities with different job descriptions, focus and obligations.


This is what we have to explain to school children and not adults....Sad.

Lol.

All you have done again is reiterate that there is difference, but without actually elaborating on the distinctions between them .

aresa:
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He was previously a Special Adviser on Information Technology to the former Minister for Communication Technology. Bunmi has a vast experience in innovation and entrepreneurship, government operations and relations, including shaping key Federal Government ICT initiatives, policy and execution.

During his role as the Special Adviser, he developed and program managed implementation of key ICT initiatives such as Government Service Portal, ICT Incubation Program called iDEA, Techlaunchpad Accelerator Program and Open Data Program. He developed the Concept Note and Business Plan for the establishment of Office for ICT Innovation and Entrepreneurship (OIIE).

He is a current National Coordinator for Office for ICT Innovation and Entrepreneurship (OIIE).

He is a certified Accenture Systems Integration Solution Architect and IT Delivery Manager; a Specialist of Business Continuity Institute (SBCI), certified ITIL, COBIT and Business Continuity Management.


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Bunmi Okunowo

National Coordinator, Office for ICT Innovation & Entrepreneurship (OIIE)


And for the disgraced and discredited country hating and low self esteem Reno Omokri and his ignorant ipob followers, this is the man in charge of our ICT.

A great professional with strong ICT education and background.


I understand the ignorance and lack of intelligence of the bitter, angry and disgruntled ipobs, but Reno Omokri spent so many years in government, but sill dumb and clueless about Nigerian government and who is in charge of our ministries and agencies..


What a sad shame..

The only thing you have illustrated here is that the current Nigerian government is too DUMB to realize and prioritize that Information Technology deserves a ministry of its own, with its own minister , its own budget and a solid ICT Blueprint for the future.

Tucking Bunni Okunowo into an obscure federal agency that most people have never heard of , underscores the low priority given to Information Technology by this band of Dinosaurs in government.

jpphilips:
Did you really ask this question?

In the context of this thread, Yes.

We already have a minister of information.

Therefore, a minister of Communications is obviously a minister of TeleCommunications infrastructure.

Now, what is the difference between That and ICT ?

ikarm17:
And oh yea, winning.

I want to see how many likes GEJ zombies will give me for this post.

Have y'all forgotten that almost all oil producing countries are undergoing the same thing Nigeria is going through?

Or for the fact that ND militants and their slavish supporters keeps bombing oil pipelines.

Kindly name all these oil producing countries that are going through the same thing that Nigeria is presently going through.

aresa:
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Stop bothering me with your idiocy and ignorance... Go back to elementary school..

Lol.

Your cognitive dissonance is already noted in this public space.

aresa:
Your entire village, humanity and the whole of internet should be ashamed of you for spewing that ignorant and idiotic nonsense..


Many of you I bet did not finish elementary school..

If you can separate Communications from ICT, then you are the one that needs an education.

aresa:
These illiterates again.



Nigeria doesn't have any ICT minister

The man is Nigeria's minister of communication and is not in charge of Nigeria's ICT..

Chai..


These ignorant illiterates are talking about other people's education, but have zero clue about their own country and even who their own ministers are and what they do..


I'm not even sure if the OP and his kind are still not in elementary school..


Very sad..

Sharap up dia.

What is the difference between Communications and ICT?

Reyginus:
I'd strongly be shocked if you are scared of dying like some theists and atheists do. Understanding of Energy and Transformation cures this. I agree with you but what if Aliens with advanced knowledge from exo planets are these gods people worship and take pride in been worshipped?

What is prayers and praises work perfectly and are simply rewards as a result of energy been transfered to these exo planetary beings who use these radiations for other higher purpose beyond our mortal grasp?

Hhhmm.

The above theories are much more plausible the current religious belief systems.

In fact, if we take an honest, broad-minded look at the so-called holy books, this is exactly what they are telling modern humans.

onetrack:
It might be a better analogy to use an animal which no one has ever seen before and which has only existed in legends. If you said you have a flying horse in your room I would not believe you at all. However, I don't personally know any atheist, including myself, who says that god does not exist 100%.

A cassava stick is a god, or can be a god.
The Sun (Sol) is a god .

God exists in many forms. You can make a god out of almost anything.

Therefore, no one can say that God doesn't exist.

What we don't subscribe to is an intelligent puppet master who supposedly created and puppeteers the universe and our lives.

The Sun, our Sun has the closest quality and attributes of God. The Sun created life , sustains , regulates and manipulates all aspects of life and our individual lives on Earth, including, your mood, your proclivities, your temperament, fertility, wars, the rise and fall of civilizations.

If their is a celestial body that deserves our awe, praise and worship, it is the Sun.

No wonder, Sun worship is oldest and only one true religion on Earth.
Infact, every religious belief on Earth is underpinned by Our Glorious Orb, the begetter of life and the great faithful Redeemer.

I simply cannot understand why humans ignore the clearly visible Glorious Orb to make endless supplications to imaginary gods.

Ranchhoddas:
That is not possible. This guy is a follower of William Branham, a preacher I am familiar with; how can he be sonofluc1fer?

Lol.

He is a follower of another person, and he wants us to take him seriously here ?

sonofluc1fer:

I dey tell you.
Me : why are the Jews special?
Nigerian : they are God's chosen.
Me: Who told you?
Nigerian: Their God.

Superman is real.
Who told you?
DC Comics.

KingEbukasBlog:
I know all these facts . My point is that they are religious , very religious and plaetton's claims were false .

You don't get it.

Even for the religious amongst them, which are not in the majority, they have the right to be religious about their ancestral myths, as long as it gives them meaning and purpose and cohesion.

The real joke is Africans( that scoff, mock and demonize their own ancestral beliefs and cultures) being religious About the ancestral myths of a foreign culture that doesn't give rat's bottom whether you exist or not.

branhampaul:
You Know What You're Doing, You Are An Agent Of The Devil.. You Know The Word Of God Is Life, Your Just Trying To Deviate People From It.. Well, God Will Reward You.. God Bless YOU..

Lol.
Look at this one.
Stockholm syndrome.

What has the invisible sky fairy rewarded Africans for the irrational devotion to stone myths of the middle East?
Disease, poverty, wickedness, darkness.

KingEbukasBlog:
Seriously ? You sir said this ? Native Israel is totally religious .

What is native Israel?
What is the difference between Israel and native Israel?

You see how you invent meaningless trick words to obfuscate facts just to maintain your delusions?