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Politics › Re: Nigeria Won't Have Survived If GEJ Had Won 2015 Presidential Election – Soyinka by plaetton: 11:22pm On Sep 20, 2016
QuotaSystem:
Absolutely spot on.

If GEJ had won, Nigeria wouldn't have even stood a chance of surviving this economic recession because the unabated stealing of whatever is left would have continued amidst the typical atmosphere of impunity, and Jonacrook wouldn't have given a damn because he would then have nothing to lose as he wouldn't need to seek re-election any longer.

Thank goodness the corrupt IB lost.
Wow!
Food for the zombies.

So it has gotten this bad for zombies , huh?

I mean, it takes an incredible level of cognitive dissonance, intellectual insecurity, subconscious self loathing, to conjure up this nonsense just to console oneself that the now evidently stuuuupidpid choice of 2015 could have been stupider if you had made the alternative choice.
If this is a placebo, then I suspect that those who are feeding themselves with this nonsense are perhaps permanently damaged, and should take real medications.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Won't Have Survived If GEJ Had Won 2015 Presidential Election – Soyinka by plaetton: 11:13pm On Sep 20, 2016
Hedonistically:
This is a remarkably stupid point of view by a remarkably dishonest man -
Remarkably dishonest man are the key words here.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Won't Have Survived If GEJ Had Won 2015 Presidential Election – Soyinka by plaetton: 11:11pm On Sep 20, 2016
Oh migosh!
Even Wole Soyinka, a well lettered man, is among those group of morons spouting this nonsense, this logical fallacy, this desperate clinging to straws by cognitively dissonant zombies.
Wonders shall never cease to happen in this country.

I guess that when real curtain falls, that's when we see who is really na-ked.
And na-ked is the perfect world to describe professor Wole Soyinka at this time.
A man who has staked his lifelong and hard-earned sterling reputation to cast his lot with a bunch of power hungry Feudal oligarchs.

Wole Soyinka has not been the same ever since Amaechi hosted him to an N85m lunch at the expense of the people of Rivers State.

What a shame.
Politics › Re: The Nigerian Citizen Volume 1 by plaetton: 9:23pm On Sep 20, 2016
stephenmorris:
plaetton baba so you have finally graced my thread after all this while abi,,,oya make i pop champagne for you grin grin grin
grin
Politics › Re: I’ll Produce 100 Millionaires In Four Years – Obaseki by plaetton: 1:49pm On Sep 20, 2016
Spoken like a conman , addressing zombies.
Politics › Re: The Nigerian Citizen Volume 1 by plaetton: 12:11pm On Sep 20, 2016
I concur
Politics › Re: How Nigeria Was Plunged Into Recession - CBN by plaetton: 6:12pm On Sep 19, 2016
Standing5:
I have waited for this report for months. We are where we are because we wasted precious petrodollar subsidizing import to the detriment of exporters who hold the key to our growth.
Lol.

And you've been waiting for this report?
Something we have known since the 50s? huh

Daahhhh!!!

The US trade deficit is also caused by excessive importation.


When will this blame game ever stop?

Does anyone in Nigeria still think that these buffoons in government are capable of doing anything ?

Why don't we just ask these people to resign and recontest when oil price goes back above $100 per barrel ? undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am A Sun Worshipper And An Atheist: Is There A Contradiction? by plaetton(op): 5:46pm On Sep 19, 2016
hahn:
That dude predicted the world will end last year cheesy grin
And he's still talking ? grin
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am A Sun Worshipper And An Atheist: Is There A Contradiction? by plaetton(op): 5:44pm On Sep 19, 2016
dairykidd:
an ar$e wipe angry
Thanks for standing present to identify yourself this first day of the working week.

I salute your courage. grin

You are already on your way to full transformation from axx wipe to a full fledged axx.
wink
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am A Sun Worshipper And An Atheist: Is There A Contradiction? by plaetton(op): 5:36pm On Sep 19, 2016
MrPresident1:
You consciously evolve as part of the evolution of everything?
Consciously evolve? huh

Kindly Google " evolve".
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am A Sun Worshipper And An Atheist: Is There A Contradiction? by plaetton(op): 5:17pm On Sep 19, 2016
MrPresident1:
Interesting smiley

So you evolve too? Personally, and as a part of everything that evolves?
Of course.
Politics › Re: Buhari And Wife In US With 108-Man Delegation Despite Recession by plaetton: 3:31pm On Sep 19, 2016
CHANGE is illusion.
Buhari hasn't changed in 30 yrs.
Nothing has changed.
Nothing will change in government and governance.

Only the stomach infrastructures of Nigerians have changed for the worse since these change illusionists came into government.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am A Sun Worshipper And An Atheist: Is There A Contradiction? by plaetton(op): 12:49pm On Sep 19, 2016
Joshthefirst:
do you regard the sun as deity?
The Sun is the most qualified to be given that title.

The Sun is the most acknowledged deity.
Sun worship is the oldest, truest and only religion there is.
Almost all of the world's major religious have their roots in Sun worship.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Critical And Logical Response To Modern Atheism (A Jewish Perspective) by plaetton: 1:48pm On Sep 18, 2016
ANAKONDA:
Okay ma. While am not the Op my understanding of the article is that he is trying to convince atheists against their arguement that God was evil to have ordered the Jews to destroy the seven Cannanitish nations.
His arguement, which i consider plausible, is that the people of those nations were living a brutish and cruel idolatery life by sacrificing their children for their idols.
In addition, fathers made their children go through the fire for Molech, their idol and vice versa.
Therefore, God said that the people would be a bad influence on the Jews if assimilation is allowed amongst them hence His commandment to them to destroy the nations.
Daahhhh.
Atheists don't believe in God in the first place. So it makes no sense saying one is trying to convince atheists that god is good or evil.

The reason atheists mock the shenanigans of the biblical god is to show that such shenanigans only betray the mindsets of the fabricators of those biblical folklores.
Politics › Re: RECESSION: Buhari’s New Thinking - Vanguard Special Report by plaetton: 1:28pm On Sep 18, 2016
blackpanda:
Nigerians should rejoice that Buhari won the last election. It could have been far worse than it is now. God gave us exactly what we needed at the time we needed it.
This has to be the stuuuupidest, most dishonest insult to Nigerians.

It takes a very very stuupid or very very dishonest and a very very condescending mind to conjure up this ill- logic as a consolation to 180m Nigerians for this most unprecedented show of gross ineptitude of this present government.

I wonder what kind of an educational experience that enables a mind to use a hypothetical situation( if Jonathan had won the election) to compare with the real life catastrophic economic events of this regime that Nigerians are currently facing. huh

This says soooo much , not only of the people currently in government, but much more about their praise singers. They are so conspicuously and unabashedly DISHONEST.

That we should be happy that Jonathan did not win, otherwise things would have been worse than they currently are , are the stuff one sell to bona fide lobotomized Zombies( if zombies really do exist), people who have had parts of their brains irreparably damaged or surgically removed.

If this poster thinks that he is doing good PR or image laundry for the people in power, then he is deluding himself, because, he is indirectly mocking those in power.
Politics › Re: Breaking:Buhari Nephew Mamman Daura Responsible For Plagiarism- Sahara Reporters by plaetton: 1:04pm On Sep 18, 2016
drss2:
buari does not even have his official speech writter sad no wonder he's a dullard.
They correlate.

A bunch that bereft of simple ideas for a speech are not surprisingly, equally bereft of ideas for managing a dynamic economy.
Politics › Re: Buhari Plagiarized Charles De Gaulle's Quote: “I Belong To Nobody” - TheSignal by plaetton: 12:50pm On Sep 18, 2016
KINGMAKER001:
not only that he plagiarized,, he's also acting opposite of what he said by categorising the 98% and 5%...There's always a day of reckoning!
Which clearly proves that he didn't even understand what he was reading.
Politics › Re: Recession: FG Releases Fresh N350bn To Boost Economy by plaetton: 2:38am On Sep 18, 2016
Lol.

They have been recycling this news since may.
Politics › Re: My Predictions For Nigeria Based On Current Trends - Cramjones by plaetton: 10:16pm On Sep 17, 2016
einst3in:
Stop spewing trash and get a job. Most of the economic projections were positive and it shall be so by God's grace.
undecided
There are no Hail MARYs in economic matters.

It is your type of " name it and claim it " crap that helped get us into the current mess.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Animals Have Rights? [argumentative Discussion] by plaetton: 8:13pm On Sep 17, 2016
johnydon22:
We could say this in some basic sense towards some domesticated animals like Dogs.



Far, we are chauvnistic about our own kind, most animals are - most mammals do not eat their offsprings or their own kind



Is there any more to the definition of basic rights baba?
Yes.
In your opening post, you made reference to legal , social and ethical as a definition of rights.

It's funny. Just yesterday, my little nephew asked me to help him kill a fly. I refused and went to lengths to explain to him that even though flies are a nuisance, they deserve to live and fend for themselves just like humans do. I suggested we pursue the fly towards the door so that it can fly out.
He found it amusing that I chose not to kill the fly. But I am happy that I have given him something to talk about and also think about.

Therefore, awareness is what is needed, not an animal charter of Rights.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Animals Have Rights? [argumentative Discussion] by plaetton: 7:46pm On Sep 17, 2016
johnydon22:
very good argument you have presented sir - permit me to approach this from a very subtle angle.

Children

Our Children have rights at least basic rights even though we cannot subject them to our legal jurisdiction on several matters regarding ethics and norms.

So can't one per say argue that just like we accord our children these basic rights like right to live, freedom, religion, thoughts and so on, can't we also accord other animals the basic rights within the reach of their behaviourial potential or existential needs - as we know humans threaten their very existence.

something like rights to freedom [the zoos are to be taken down]

right to live [except their is need for consumption the natural order takes it course]

right to protection from sexual exploitation

etc.
Rights don't exist in a vacuum.
There is a constant feedback loop existing between rights and RESPONSIBILITIES.

From birth , we start molding our children after ourselves, our norms ethics. We start assigning tiny incremental responsibilities to them as they grow and mature.
Even todlers are held to certain degrees of responsibilities.
And of course, our children are far from being our food source.

I totally agree that we should be more aware of our negative influence in the survival of other species, and should take proactive legislative actions to preserve and protect wildlife from environmental threats and possible extinction.
If that is what you mean by "rights", then yes, it is commonsensical.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Animals Have Rights? [argumentative Discussion] by plaetton: 7:36pm On Sep 17, 2016
We can't negotiate with our food.

The entire food chain would be irreparably distorted, and therefore threaten our survival in the long run.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Animals Have Rights? [argumentative Discussion] by plaetton: 7:29pm On Sep 17, 2016
HardMirror:
Exactly
I never agreed that humans have rights. Humans don't have rights. Where is the rights? There are only agreed rights.
We create rights for ourselves.
I completely agree.

Rights are social contracts that we negotiate with ourselves for mutual benefits.
Christianity Etc › Re: Do Animals Have Rights? [argumentative Discussion] by plaetton: 7:27pm On Sep 17, 2016
johnydon22:
On thursday 14/09/2016 i went for the usual Thinker's pub discussion hosted every two weeks by our very own MrAnony1, it was fun as usual..

Going straight to the topic of discussion as you may have well deducted from the heading of the thread.

Do animals have rights?

Let me define what Right is Going by the definition on Wikipedia encyclopedia we may define right as

Rights are legal, social, or ethical principles of freedom or entitlement

Now the floor is open, it is an open discussion unrestricted to all.

Do you think animals should have or have rights?

If yes bring your reason and points - if no also bring your points

Let's discuss them

[N.B: You may present your argument from every angle whether scientific, philosophical, religious - all premises are welcome, these diverse pool of tapping ideas will make it more interesting and challenging.]

Let us also deal with each other more kindly as we engage in a free and peaceful battle of ideas using our words as Ammo.

Cc. LoJ, Seun, Dorox, Hahn, Plaetton, Joshthefirst, Joseph1038 ..
Without even thinking too much it, I would say animals should not have tights, for the simple reason that " legal , social and ethical" mean nothing whatsoever in the animal behavior or kingdom.

Going as far would greatly undermine and distort the great importance of animals in our food chain.

Logically, to say that animals deserve our definition of legal rights would be tantamount to saying that we should also hold animals accountable according to our legal, social and ethical norms.

What animals deserve is more compassion. We should not kill animals for sport. We should be careful and considerate when we encroach upon their habitats.
Christianity Etc › Re: Spirituality: Who E Don EPP? by plaetton(op): 3:01pm On Sep 17, 2016
DeepSight:
How therefore is it not possible for a person to see you and know you at once, upon beholding you in the physical?

Contemplate this question carefully and stop giving it shallow thought, absent introspection and settlement:

Are you not therefore invisible?

Indeed, how many times have you seen yourself, much less how many times have you been seen by another person?
Hhhmm!
These manner of questions doth seem to put me in a mental labyrinth.

I am feeling dizzy just trying to understand them .

Thou art truly a word salad maestro.
grin

I shall leave thy questions to further contemplation when my medication arrives. undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Spirituality: Who E Don EPP? by plaetton(op): 2:05pm On Sep 17, 2016
DeepSight:
Are you not invisible?
No , wordy sire.
What manner of sorcery do you accuse me of ? shocked

I am surely not.
Christianity Etc › Re: Spirituality: Who E Don EPP? by plaetton(op): 1:48pm On Sep 17, 2016
DeepSight:
There cannot even arise the question of psychology without a being to whom that psychology is attached. This is the same way there cannot arise the question of a body without a being to whom that body belongs. That being, as I have shown you, cannot be mere meat.
Lol.

Isn't that the great thing about invisible things ? grin

You can simply attach them to anything, anytime it suites you.
grin. grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Spirituality: Who E Don EPP? by plaetton(op):
DeepSight:
You are woefully wrong and I feel sad for you. Nevertheless, everyone is entitled to their point of view, however shallow and vacant of introspection it may be.

PS: Is this (Jackbizzle) another handle for Plaetton?
No sir.
Jackbizzle is Logicboy, the old nemesis of the religious nuts, sophists and word salad chefs of Nairaland.

He makes some very remarkable points.

The So-called spirituality is nothing but plain old psychology, clothed with esoteric sophistry.
Politics › Re: My Ministers Are ‘incompetent’ – Buhari Opens Up by plaetton: 12:04pm On Sep 17, 2016
Paperwhite:
Great leaders takes responsibility for what their governance have produced,but Buhari is far from it.This is a serious indictment on this fool.So the national assembly should immediately initiate impeachment proceedings on Buhari for failure of quality governance after all he nominated & forwarded the names of the [/b]"incompetent ministers"[b] for NASS consideration & approval.Besides Buhari himself is also the [/b]Incompetent Minister[b] of Petroleum.Nigeria just negodu your president. cry cry cry
Buhari is far from being a leader.

He knows ZERO about leadership.
Politics › Re: Buhari Accused Of Plagiarising Obama’s Speech by plaetton: 7:16pm On Sep 16, 2016
Lol.

What else should we expect from these bozos? undecided

I lost hope in this administration after they lied about their so-called Zero-based budgeting, then we found out that all they did was to Plagiarize Jonathan's 2015 Budget, Copy, Inflate and Pad it as their own.
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am A Sun Worshipper And An Atheist: Is There A Contradiction? by plaetton(op): 8:57pm On Sep 15, 2016
analice107:
I no talk am? Plaetton dey craze
Yup.
Sometimes I do feel like everyone else in Nigeria is perfectly sane, and I am the crazy one.

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