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TonyeBarcanista:
How many Igbo(and other) trader build his shop in Lagos, Abuja or Kano? While some rent from government

The peculiarities of the business is that most times government and private developers BUILD these shops and plazas and give to traders on lease. This is a fact! Else, how many trader will buy land and BUILD his shop for trading?

Again, I used the example of motor parks that flood around all 36 states and FCT

And how old are you ?
Seriously.
Your level of ignorance is simply astonishing.

And I thought you were actually a mature person.

laudate:
Please try to be smart. Most Igbo spare parts dealers, build or lease their shops from private owners, and inside market spaces. How many of them did govt build shops for, specifically?

Don't mind that ignorant , shallow , stomach infrastructure fellow.

That's the problem with people who live on politics,.they forget how everyone else make an honest living.

freeze001:
https://www.google.com.ng/amp/dailypost.ng/2018/01/06/fulani-herdsmen-finally-reveal-attacked-benue-communities/amp/

http://www.dailycorrespondents.com.ng/2018/01/we-attacked-benue-community-in-retaliation-for-our-stolen-1000-cows-miyetti-allah-breeders/

You can read this to see where the leadership of Miyetti clearly accepted responsibility for the attacks. The Benue state governor isn't demanding the arrest of these Miyetti leaders just for the hell of it.

You have been on about how governments step in to build commercial motor parks for commercial transporters and all. Even in all their nuisance, how many of those drivers took up arms and committed murder to get parks marked off and built? Why then must the worst kind of wickedness and sense of entitlement be rewarded by that which they seek?

They should be compelled to embrace modern ranching, the government has already intervened in its agriculture drive hence the availability of loans at low interest rates. They should apply and join others in accessing such facilities. Govt can also provide training but asking them to take lands by whatever means is a hypocritical position to even canvass.

Have u taken cognisance of the psyche of those who have borne the brunt of these incessant, godless attacks? How would they feel having these marauders stationed in their homelands and appearing victorious in their evil quest of murder and destruction?

Those herders and cattle owners come from states. They should approach their respective state governments and those willing to put up with them. The FG getting involved by proposing colonies at that level or applying any form of coercion is nepotism at its best. There are lots of Nigerians completely homeless and helpless. They need help and not wealthy cattle owners taking advantage of the very useless Nigerian system.

Simply epic.

fx45:
When are you going to eschew political correctness from your psyche? Are you boldly telling us that you painstakingly put down that load of garbage under the guise of intellectual discourse?

Lol.

Pls ask him o.

TonyeBarcanista:
Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB are forgone issues. I wish him well wherever he is and please, stop bringing him into this narrative.

As for your wishes, I already have lots of Fulanis in my life, just like I have people of ther ethnic stock.

May we learn to look beyond tribal lenses

I keep bringing up Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB , and comparing your attitudes to the FULANI herdsmen genocide to simply show that you have NO character.

TonyeBarcanista:
Like I opined, you are an ethno-religious jingoist unlike me.

Meanwhile, this is the position of Miyetti Allah...



Still awaiting which Miyetti Allah accepted reponsibility for the killing.

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Lol I smell envy...


No worry, bad belle is allowed

Double post.

TonyeBarcanista:
Like I opined, you are an ethno-religious jingoist unlike me.

Meanwhile, this is the position of Miyetti Allah...



Still awaiting which Miyetti Allah accepted reponsibility for the killing.

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Lol I smell envy...


No worry, bad belle is allowed

Bullshyt.

You're not an ethno-religious ligoist, but you never ever fail to remind us that you're IJAW.
I also remember that you and your types suffered convulsion after convulsion when you thought that Nnamdi Kanu and his IPOB were coming to take your beloved oilfields in the Niger Delta.

So , basically, you would rather ingratiate yourself to your Fulani overlords for mess of political porridge and stomach infrastructure than to give yourself a conscience and sense of justice.

My best wishes for is to have FULANI in every aspect of your life.

TonyeBarcanista:
Are transporters in parks not private businessmen operating for profit? Cattle breeding is part of the activities that adds to the economy and further the Agriculture subsector, so yes, it is the job of government to ensure ease of doing business.

With a grazing territory they would remain in business and still not trample on crops of farmers like the way they are doing in open grazing.

Beside, if they were Ijaw/Igbo, I will advocate same...

Meanwhile, who says a non-Fulani can't go into cattle breeding business when ranch is provided?

Must the government pull the whole nation backwards to the stone age era in this 21st century just to appease murderers and terrorists ?

How about modern animal husbandry ?
How about the Fulani billionaires moving their cattle rearing business into the 21st century ?
Why must all of Nigeria suffer or compromise for people who are stuck in the stone age?

Sapiosexuality:
Where have you been, plaetton?

I dey, comrade.

I salute.

TonyeBarcanista:
It is either you have reading problem or that of comprehension, else, you wouldn't have wrote this.

In every state there is usually parks for commercial cab operators, these parks are not operated by indigenes alone but by Nigerians of different ethnic groups but they are overseen by the state government or FG (in the case of FCT) and a source of revenue. Why didn't you tell the motorists to go buy lands and operate their parks?

In many states, government build blocks of lock-up shops and lease to traders. This system not only make it well coordinated but also attract revenue to the state. Why not go tell each traders to go buy their own lands to build their shops?

Let us try to address issues holistically


It is not a must to comment...

Public transportation is a basic obligation of the government.
By this jaundiced logic , since governments build roads for public use, they should also build grazing ranches for the herdsmen.

Is cow breeding, chicken breeding, pig breeding , etc, not private businesses operated for profit ?
Do the herdsmen and owners share their profits with the public or with the farmers whose crops they distroy ?

Be honest with yourself, if these cattle herdsmen were Ijaw Or Igbo, would you be making these silly equivocations?

Nutase:
Rubbish political statement. Stop beating around the bush and take a stand against criminality.

Thank you very much jare.

TonyeBarcanista:
This article was painstakingly written....

Comments are welcome

Painstaking garbage.

Why massaging the issues ?

Who are the both sides in this issue that this mor.on refers to?

The murderers and their murdered victims?
The survivors who are mourning their losses and the criminals still at large ?


The article is shallow and empty, the kind of empty, cowardly rhetorics that are peculiar to politicians,. But in this case, not just any politician, but ones who think they owe some kind of axx-licking allegiance to the Fulani fiefdom in Nigeria.

The writer shockingly omits to acknowledge the increasing tempo of mass murders committed by Fulani herdsmen against community after community in Benue and other states over the last few years.

The writer plays the proverbial ostrich by pretending that recurring events of Fulani herdsmen ( yes, FULANI herdsmen) and their or.gies of mass murders are simply misunderstandings between two friends or communities.

The writer painstakingly omits to berate the federal government and body language of the present leader , whose very loud silence and tepid response to these mass killings does nothing but embolden the killers.

Funny that this writer used much harsher words to berate Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB, who, throughout their angry struggles with Nigerian state, neither carried arms nor threatened any Nigerian citizen with violence.

When I realize that we have plenty of people with a very dishonest and cowardly disposition on very critical national issues like the writer, it makes me want to vomit. Seriously.

There is only one side of this issue, not two.
People, a mass of people , are being repeatedly murdered and genocided by FULANI herdsmen , who happen to enjoy the support of the present government, at least the president, for sure.

Stop trying to obfuscate the very very sad issue.
It's a grave insult to the victims, and emboldens the terrorists that they have legitimate grievances.

This country is a huge joke.
Is it the Nigerian Army that presecutes, judges and pardons accused terrorists ?

What happened to Nigeria's criminal justice system ?

How far have we gone backwards in just under 3 years of Buhari's rule ?

Islie:
https://newtelegraphonline.com/2018/01/55-officials-stole-n1-3trn-11-years-magu/

Stuuuupid shithole.
You know this for sure, But
those so called officials cannot be named, arrested and prosecuted?

Stuuuupid people.

tinkinjow:
....for illegally occupying a farmland and disturbing traffic flow....

That's what a sane and responsible govt does. Now the ownward christian soldiers on Nigeria who lack the very basic of human values will descend here to condemn China.
Kudos to effective governance. In Nigeria here when churches block the road and you condemn they'll ask whether you didn't know they're having a program.
Their loudspeakers disturb the neighbourhoods and you speak out and they say ooooh that's the antichrist.

Thank you very much .

A stitch in time saves nine.

China cares for it's future, the future of her youth.
China wants her youths to be engineers , computer programmers and scientists in order to be and remain a dominant power in the future.
China cannot afford to have it's youths poisoned by depleted and toxic middle East stone age nonsense.

Kudos to China.
No useless middle East crap in China.

OmoEpe:
Honestly the worse thing to outright lies is half truth same with half education. By 2003 Nigeria's foreign reserve was over $40bn by 2007 it was around $60bn. How much did your drunken hero from Otueke deplete it to. How much was oil during Jonathan's years of the locust? Till date no Nigerian leader has earned what GEJ earned in terms of revenue yet no transformation of ANY SECTOR WHATSOEVER. The only achievements recorded by him was setting a new corruption record. Nepa was privatised under your alcoholic hero yet we have less of power generatthan when it was public sector driven. All we had was paper growth without any improvement in people's living standards.
Since you are so dumb that you can't remember i will remind you that as of 2014 june over 13 states of the federation couldn't pay salary because your ali Baba and the 40theives administration had stolen the Federation account blind. The excess crude oil account jointly owned by the 3 tiers of Government turned into your clueless hero's personal ATM without an account to other arms reason why Govs then insisted that the little balance remaining be shared since NOI had turned into a rat that keeps depleting the balance every month.
Since you have a short memory i will need to remind you that 2/3 of borno state was under Boko Haram administration while your hero was hitting the bottle hard in Aso Rock. The railway contractors weren't paid hence work stopped in the railway construction till PMB won and paid them.
I can go on and on but i doubt if it will change your jaundice view of issues

Good heavens!
Here we go again.
Another halfthinking drone coming out with disjointed babbles.
Is it that your facts are disjointed or that your thought patterns are disjointed.

Now, I am wiling to engage you if you have the capacity for rational debate on the issues raised.

First of all,

OmoEpe:
By 2003 Nigeria's foreign reserve was over $40bn by 2007 it was around $60bn.

Kindly quote your source.

Lets start with 1999. What was Nigeria's foreign reserves?
How did it grow to $40b, and to $60b ?
What was it in 2015 ?

Now, You are probably an economic illiterate who thinks that adding a few billions $ to foreign reserves is the only and relevant measure of prudent economic management.
We earn foreign reserves by exporting oil, and we deplete foreign reserves by importing consumer goods, machinery, international travel and expenses, repatriation of profits from foreign companies based in Nigeria, etc.
Therefore , foreign reserves go up and down on periodic basis depending on whether Nigerians, not just the government, are spending more or less on imports and foreign exchange transactions.

OmoEpe:
How much was oil during Jonathan's years of the locust? Till date no Nigerian leader has earned what GEJ earned in terms of revenue yet no transformation of ANY SECTOR WHATSOEVER.

How much was oil during the OBJ era ?

Again, spouting the nonsense programmed to your zombie brain.
Let me take the pains to educate you again, since apparently, your parents wasted their money on schools fees for you.

Traditionally, when the government earns more, all 3 tiers of government also earn more, and spend more.

Government 101, taught in JSS3 if I am correct:
Government exists to provide social services for the welfare of the citizens.

The government does not exist to save money in bank accounts for you.
Duuuhh!!

Most governments around the world spend more than they receive. They call it Deficit , in case you have never heard of that word before.

Therefore, the government spending it's earnings to create jobs, grow the economy, meet its international financial obligations is perfectly normal.

In fact, the current minister of finance publicly criticized the previous government for having an unacceptable low level of Debt to GDP profile.
In simple English, she said that GEJ should have borrowed a lot more money to fund infrastructure projects.

Now , you say that GEJ earned more money from oil than any Nigerian government.
True.
That's also why GEJ era witnessed the greatest economic boom Nigeria had witnessed since oil boom of the Gowon era.
Under GEJ, Nigeria rose to become the biggest economy in Africa.
Under GEJ, the Nigerian middle class , the most critical economic class in measuring economic progress, expanded greatly for the first time in nearly 40 years. That's a fact.

Now, I will concede with you that economic progress hardly touched a substantial number of Nigerians.
Yes, that is always the case even in the most advanced nations.
And of course, Nigeria has a lot of structural weaknesses embedded in the very nature of the federation we are running, whereby progress is slow to trickle down to the grassroots. That is a structural problem that every tier of government need to address.
It's not a " GEJ did it " problem.

OmoEpe:
Nepa was privatised under your alcoholic hero yet we have less of power generatthan when it was public sector driven. All we had was paper

Lies.
Dishonest or ignorant Lies.

Privatization NEPA was the best thing to happen.
Slowly but surely, we are seeing the benefits in terms of improvements.
And this is what good leadership does.
It lays the good foundation for future improvements.
GEJ did that.
OBJ did that.
I reiterate that 16 yrs from 1999 was marked with uninterrupted progress.

OmoEpe:
Since you are so dumb that you can't remember i will remind you that as of 2014 june over 13 states of the federation couldn't pay salary because your ali Baba and the 40theives administration had stolen the Federation account blind.

Now, lets see who amongst us is really dumb.

Now, kindly tell us , did those 13 states fail to pay salaries because,.
A. They were not receiving their monthly statutory allocations from the federation account?
B. They were getting less from the their statutory allocations from the federation account ?
or
C. Those state governors were guilty of economic mismanagement of their state finances ?

OmoEpe:
The excess crude oil account jointly owned by the 3 tiers of Government turned into your clueless hero's personal ATM without an account to other arms reason why Govs then insisted that the little balance remaining be shared since NOI had turned into a rat that keeps depleting the balance every month.

Silly nonsense and innuendos.

It is on record that GEJ govt. wanted to save money via the establishment of a Sovereign Wealth Fund to save and grow our excess crude earnings.
Do you remember what happened thereafter ?
The States, Led by Amaechi and the APC, led by Tinubu, sued the federal government to stop it. They wanted their cash now. Forget about tomorrow.

Selective amnesia ?

OmoEpe:
Since you have a short memory i will need to remind you that 2/3 of borno state was under Boko Haram administration while your hero was hitting the bottle hard in Aso Rock.

Oh, I am glad that you remember that GEJ was fighting a ragging war with Boko Haram.
I also remember, I don't know if you still do, that Buhari, now president of Nigeria, and Lai Mohammed , once stated publicly that the war against Boko Haram was a war against the North?.

Do you also remember that each time GEJ moved hard against Boko Haram, the Northern power brokers cried foul ?
Do you also remember that Northern officers were court marshalled for supply arms and information to Boko Haram ?

So, do you see the odds that were against GEJ in the war against Boko haram ?
And he still managed to grow the economy year after year ?

OmoEpe:
The railway contractors weren't paid hence work stopped in the railway construction till PMB won and paid them.

A big lie.
There was no stoppage of work because GEJ failed to pay the contractors.
Use your common sense for once.

Contractors are paid based on the completion of an agreed level of work or progress.
Therefore, contractors are always always owed until the completion of whatever is agreed on the contract.

Now, when your dumbo president waltzed into power, he barely understood how things work.
In typical soldier fashion, he stopped payment of all pending contractors because I assume he wanted to take time to understand who was doing what and who was being paid what.
When he stopped the payments of all pending contracts, that is when the contractors ran out funds, and stopped the works , pending the reviews by the new government.

Learn to make friends with FACTS , and while at it , get yourself some common sense.

OmoEpe:
I can go on and on but i doubt if it will change your jaundice view of issues

And yes, you can go on and on with your disjointed babbles.

Empty vessels make the most noise.

You can thankme later for taking time to educate you today.

Its about time , and long overdue.

I sincerely hope that the Yoruba leaders understand , and come to terms with the fact that we can actually restructure and change Nigeria for the better, for every Nigerian, only if and when they are ready to lend their clout.

OmoEpe:
You are a clown, 16 uninterrupted years of progress? You need psychiatric evaluation ASAP

Yes.
16 uninterrupted years of steady progress in Nigeria.
That's a fact by every measure.
Every measurable index of life improved in Nigeria from 1999 to 2015.
Do yourself a favor, get a brain and educate yourself a little. Remove your tribal , party or religious cap, and be honest with yourself.

If Buhari and his band of vagabonds and misfits are not voted out of Aso Rock next year, then Nigeria would be pushed soo far backwards, that the years between 1999-2015 would forever be remembered as Nigeria's golden ERA.

Statsocial:
Well much of the Ivy Leagues today were all founded by Churches. Oral Roberts Uni is still a Christian Conservative Pentecostal Uni and is an reputable university in the us.

Big laugh.

I only hear of Oral Roberts university in Nigeria.

Religious universities are not recognized as institutions of serious intellectual learning, but merely brainwashing centers.

sonofluc1fer:
Is there hope? Or is this a lost cause?

With their deep penetration into universities, the supposed bastion and repository of intellectual energy, I am sorry to say that the future remains dark.

Statsocial:
Said by descendants of people who killed their own twin kids, sacrificed humans until the church came to liberate them. The same church that educated and provided healthcare for your ancestors,! I can't imagine how disastrous this country would a been if not for the same Christianity you folks try to spite.

My Friend, it might surprise you that I agree that Christianity was a force for good in Nigeria about 100 or more years ago, when European missionaries left the comfort of their civilized homes to bring many good things to Nigeria.

Now, read my post again.
I said that Pentecostal Christianity, which I don't think has anything in common with early christian missions in Nigeria, is a very toxic import that that is devastating the mental and intellectual landscape of Nigeria.

Can you honestly compare the early Christian missions in Nigeria to today's evangelical filth ?
Can you ?

The early Christian missionaries gave so much, did so much, with so little.
They were not asking people to pay tithe, sow seeds or subscribe to the worst forms of primitive superstitions.
The missionaries lives austere lives, gave up luxuries to serve their callings.
They were not living large on the backs of the Christians to whom they came to evangelise.
They served their communities and showed examples of the humility and charity that Jesus preached about.

My heart, my conscience, my sense of justice bleeds for the good people of Benue.

But,. this nation pretty much deserves what they get.
" Buhari change ", You asked for It, you Got It.

When Nnamdi Kanu raised an angry voice and rallied angry youths, under the umbrella of IPOB, without arms I must add, against this unjust and lopsided contraption called Nigeria, he was demonized, mocked and columnised from every corner of Nigeria for the simple reason that He happened to be an Igbo man.
It shocked me , and still continues to shock me that Nigerians just didn't understand what Nnamdi Kanu , unintentionally, was doing for the nation in raising public consciousness to the unfair and lopsided nature of the Nigerian Federation.

At the end , all cheered when Nnamdi kanu was silenced and IPOB, a peaceful but angry agitation group bearing no arms, was branded a terrorist organization by Buhari's federal government.

Today, as has been the case since Buhari came to power, armed Fulani groups have embarked on a frenzied or.gy of killings.
Yet, no whimper from the Buhari's federal government, federal army.

We had 16 uninterrupted years of progress in Nigeria.

Then Nigerians woke and said they wanted an unrepentant Tyrant, a treasonable felon-at-large, to lead them to a delusional promise land.
Well, there you have it.
How is going so far ?

sonofluc1fer:
Lol. Plaetton, no surprise.

No surprise at all.

People think I am just being malicious when I say that evangelical Christianity is the greatest toxic and environmental hazard that prevents Africans from seeing the light, from escaping from the fragmented reality that they are in.

The Bible , the old testament, was compiled by Jewish scribes, about the Jews and for the Jews .

Why are Jews not paying tithe , and why are stuuuupid Africans obsessed with Jewish myths and legends?

If Jews are not paying tithe, then why are stuuuupid Africans, who normally scoff at paying taxes for basic amenities and services, obsessed with paying protection money to fraud pastors?

sonofluc1fer:
Happy new year plaetton

Very happy New Year Sir.

I hope you had a wonderful festive season.

Modo9:
argument for god or against god ?

There isn't, and there has never been a good, sound argument for god.

Recently, I got into a religious argument with a couple of friends about the existence of god.
5 of them against me.

I simply asked them , any one of them, to make a convincing or compelling argument for the existence of god.
Well, you should know how that went.

They all attacked my sanity for not believing in god.
That was their very best argument.
I kept reminding them to make an argument for the existence of god.
They were more concerned about my sanity than to actually thinking and trying to make a good argument for god.

Penalty82:
Change your thoughts first. I am sure you're not better.

Not better than what ?

I am 100% saner than zombies of a lunacy cult walking about wearing cult-prescribed Aprons.

Penalty82:
Thanks for your observations, just know that you're not in any way better than those that wear this Apron. Apart from the Apron, the mad man is putting on shirt and trousers maybe those that wears shirt and trousers are also mad including you.

Comprehension comprehension!.

Did my point elude you or are you pretending ?

Believe me buddy, I can tell you with 100% confidence that adults wearing and walking about in chosen aprons is the closest thing to mental illness that any observer outside of this lunatic cocoon will take note of.

Pentecostal cowdung is slowly turning otherwise sane adults into lobotomized zombies.

informationNaija:
I stumbled upon this mentally deranged man this evening when coming back from work in Lagos,the mad man was seen wearing a church apron and also surrounded by people wondering what a church apron should be doing on a mad mans body.
(photos)

What an irony.

A picture is worth a thousand words.

It's funny that mental illness is the only words that comes to my mind each time I see adults wearing that apron.

frosbel2:
Most Nigerian Men of 'god' are shameless, unrepentant, THIEVES.

They are all thieves, every single one of them.

booblacain:
At least he had the courage to speak out, I give him credit for that.

One thing he pointed out which I strongly agree with is that Buhari does indeed have "some" intentions to do well, but he is not capable of it. Good intentions do not necessarily translate to capability and that is one thing most geniune(not the charlatan) supporters of Buhari refuse to understand and accept.

Bullshyt Bullshyt.
This is typical of Buhari apologists and APC zombies. Blame everyone and everything under the Sun, except Buhari.
It's like blaming failure in war on foot soldiers instead of the commanders and generals taking responsibility.

Aside from being aTOTAL DUNCE, Buhari is insincere and very very fake.
He lacks integrity of any sort.
If he had an iota of real integrity and sincerity of purpose,it would have been easy for him inculcate or inspire his minions and foot soldiers to emulate his character and vision. He totally lacks both.

Let's call a spade a spade.
Buhari struggled for and gained power forth sole purpose of undoing all the national security and armed forces detribalization reforms undertaken by Obasanjo and completed by GEJ.

Like others before him, Buhari sees and treats Nigeria as a conquered territory of his Fulani tribe. His entire agenda over the last 3yrs has been to re-establish Hausa/ Fulani hegemony over all critical areas of security and national politics.

Buhari's abysmal failure in his second mission-Less journey into our national leadership was easily predictable as soon as he made the infamous 97% and 5% comment shortly after winning the elections.
No sincere and well-meaning person , talkless of a national leader, would ever have made such a moronic comment.

I wrote him of immediately thereafter.

Buhari is a failure because , aside from being clueless, he is very insincere and unpatriotic.

deomelo:
And your rubbish disputed lying omokiri's ignorant and lying assertions?


Abeg shift for side and stick to okokiri's lies.

Ha ha ha.

Another brain dead zombie allergic to Facts.



How much do they pay you guys to come to Nairaland to make fools of yourselves?