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MuttleyLaff:
"What is God?" is an incomplete and isolated enquiry

The stool presented by OP ought have at least three legs
and not this a one-legged stool, that's doomed to topple whoever sits on it

The subject of discussion requires a 3-legged stool of understanding,
which are:
1) "What is God",
2) "what is god(s)"
and 3) "compare & contrast God and god(s)"

So, in a thorough manner, convincingly describe what God and god(s) are,
Describe compare & contrast each, in all ways and manner you've come to understand what both noun words are and mean.
Also give, as much examples as can muster, that illustrates God and god(s)

Its kind of funny that you are asking the question, answering the same question, while still asking the question.
By trying to show a difference between god with a small 'g' and god spelt with a capital 'g' , you are directly propositioning that such entities absolutely exists and their differences do exist.

For example, I have no idea what in the universe you are talking about when you make repeated references to small letter 'g' and capital letter 'g' gods. I don't find those in any science or astronomical journal.

Since you are absolutely sure of these convictions, the onus falls squarely on YOU to DEFINE these capital letter 'g ' and small letter 'g' entities .

How come I have never heard of a Nigerian philanthropist build a single library, vocational training school or even modernize the often dilapidated schools in their communities ?

When will African children start reading and catching up with the rest of the world in knowledge instead of threading this forgotten path of middle Eastern myths ?

Where does anyone see new Cathedrals being erected in Europe , the people that gifted us with this yoke ?
The Europeans are converting their old cathedrals into libraries, laboratories and museums.

Is religion and more religion the only things the African brain is capable of absorbing ?

As a man thinketh, so he is.

Garbage in, Garbage out.

Shithole middle East religions in, shithole mentality and shithole reality out.

Omooba77:
http://thebossnewspapers.com/pendulum-before-nigeria-goes-the-way-of-rwanda/

Delete Momudu and self-glorification.

He reminds me of another Janus-Faced pretender to intellectual discourse, Tam David-West.
Every discourse is centered around him. At the end, the article seems to be more about his travels and meeting with famous people than a serious discussion of an important issue.

NaijaMutant:
The Deji of Akure and his touts only find their voice and strength when Igbos are involved.

If he tries nonsense with Fulani's, his throne shall become a cattle colony by tomorrow

Just imagine if the Igbos were the herders of cows destroying farms and lives all over Nigeria.

bukatyne:
God help us to stand firm.

Stand firm for what , exactly ?

For example, in the US, the deeply Christian South are and have always been the bastions of racism.

The KKK is a pseudo-christian outfit.
It is not surprising that the early founders and influential members were often preachers, Deacons and staunch Christians,..and that the KKK often launched their lynching escapades against blacks right after church services.

Both historically and contemporarily, what does or what has Christianity stood for , from a philosophical and moral perspective ?

I'm quite sure your brand of Christianity is quite different the brand of Christianity of KKK members, and of Catholic priests, and of Anglican priests, and probably of Nigerian Pentecostal Fraudsters fondly called MOGs.

Religious charlatans like Oyedepo, who make a lucrative business of promoting magical thinking are the principal contributors to the menace of ritual murders.
I mean, Oyedepo and his peers in the Pentecostal Fraudsters Of Nigeria (PFN) promote and sell for cash the primitive idea that wealth comes through miracles, magic and religious rituals.
What is the difference between one form of primitive magic and another ?
It is the same mindset.

If , for example, you believe that giving a portion of your income to Oyedepo or other Pentecostal Fraudsters will attract blessings of money and riches to you, then it doesn't take much to switch to blood sacrificial rituals when Oyedepo's magic fails, as it is bound to fail.

bishopkay:
If the Yoruba people who claim to be sophisticated in politicking still follow Tinubu to this ditch he's leading them to, then I'd know they are perpetually foolish.

Y'all screamed and supported buhari to victory during the last polls. He visited the country including you with sufferings, miscarriage of our justice system and deep rooted nepotism. Yet y'all want to make that same mistake again because you hate a particular region of the country. Clap for yourselves!

No one has a right to influence my vote...be you man, woman or god IDGAF! I vote my mind based on my angst against the current situation of things. Be wise people... Be wise. The man called Tinubu simply desires political patronage. It's time we retired these selfish old Mofos forever.

I seriously get scared whenever I think how this country would be in 10 years or 20 years time. What's the future of the youths in this contraption?

I couldn't have said it better.

danvon:
Sure and if you believe monkey magically transformed into human, of course a snake can evolve to start eating money

No one, except perhaps your Sunday school teacher, has claimed that a monkey magically transformed into a human.
Your post show the typical ignorance.
You can as well deny and mock the fact that ordinary spermatozoa and egg magically transforms into a human in just 9 months.

GistMore:
GistMore.com

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‘$41,438 blown in one-day shopping’

Ex-First Lady to EFCC: let’s settle

THE DEPOSITORS

Festus Iyoha
Ocheche Emmanuel
Philemon Buoro
Festus Isidahomen
Felicia Apatake
Patricia Okogun
Buoro Ojo
Stella Wasiu
Amaka Adebayo
Segun Moses
Jimoh Peter
Ahmed Musa
Ibrahim Musa
Dame P. Jonathan
Ayemere Sunday
Eneji A.P
Johnson Ojo
Mary Buoro
Jude Bosede
Festus Iyoha
Jimoh Moses
Ahmed Musa
Germaine
Dudafa
Germani
Ade Suleiman
Mohammed Adamu
Francis Muhd
Kunle Peter
Suleiman Ade
Jonathan Patience

Former First Lady Mrs Patience Jonathan is a shopping freak – going by facts and figures unveiled by detectives.

She blew thousands of dollars at highbrow stores. The cash came from $11,849,069.03, which the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission (EFCC) said 31 individuals and companies paid into her two domiciliary accounts.

The accounts, which are Skye Bank (2110001712) and First Bank (2022648664) had “questionable deposits” between 2013 and 2017.

The Skye Bank account had about $7,452,319.32 lodged in it. Detectives found $4,036,750.00 in the second account with First Bank.

The ex-First Lady allegedly spent the cash at TFS stores, Selfridges, John Lewis, Kingsgate, Sainsbury’s, Harrods, Marks and Spencer, Dolce and Gabbana, and Gina.

She went on a shopping spree in expensive outlets in the United States, Britain, Germany, Hong Kong, UAE, Italy and China.

The highest shopping was at Goyard Beijing in Beijing CN on January 28, 2014 where Mrs. Jonathan shelled out $28,388.72.

On the same day at Hulian Xinguang Beijing CN, she blew $13, 069.68 on some luxury items.

There were transactions traced to Oakham School, Natwest Bank and $26, 228. 18 spent at Hotel Nassaeur HOF Wishbaden DE on November 20, 2015.

Perhaps overwhelmed by the EFCC probe and its likely consequences, the ex-First Lady has applied for an out-of-court settlement with the EFCC.

In “a major breakthrough by EFCC with international collaboration” detectives found that about $7,452,319.32 suspicious funds were deposited in the ex-First Lady’s account with number 2110001712 between 8th February 2013 and 7th April 2015.

The account was opened on September 12, 2013 by a former Special Assistant on Domestic Affairs to ex-President Goodluck Jonathan Hon. Dudafa Waripamo Owei depositing $1,948,400.00.

About 23 other individuals, including the ex-First Lady allegedly deposited cash into the account as follows: Festus Iyoha ($287,100.000); Ocheche Emmanuel ($150,000); Philemon Buoro ($150,000); Festus Isidahomen ($100,000); Felicia Apatake ($148,900); Patricia Okogun ($ 99,700); Buoro Ojo ($400,000); Stella Wasiu ($250,000); Amaka Adebayo ($250,000); Segun Moses ($249,400); Jimoh Peter ($246,700); Ahmed Musa ($196,400); Ibrahim Musa($198,300); Dame P. Jonathan ($100,000); Ayemere Sunday ($ 250,000); Eneji A.P ($300,000); Johnson Ojo ($300,000); Mary Buoro ($400,000); Jude Bosede ($500,000); Festus Iyoha ($400,000); Jimoh Moses ($400,000) and Ahmed Musa ($100,000).

“The balance in this account as at 9th September 2016 was about $5,831,173.55,” the EFCC said.

The second account was opened on February 22, 2013 at First Bank.

Cash deposits were made into the account between 26th February 2013 and 30th April, 2017 which altogether was $4,036,750.

Apart from the ex-First Lady who deposited $2,037,650 in nine tranches, other lodgments ranged from $98,900 to $400,000.

The former SA Domestic, Dudafa Waripamo Owei, led the pack of depositors on 27th February 2013 with a deposit of $400,000. Other depositors are: Germaine ($100,000); Dudafa ($400,000); Germani ($200,000); Ade Suleiman ($200,000); Mohammed Adamu ($300,000); Francis Muhd ($300,000); Kunle Peter ($200,000); Suleiman Ade ($299,900,00) and Jonathan Patience ($2,037,650).

“Detectives traced the transactions pattern placed the card holder in various countries to United States, Great Britain, Germany, Hong Kong, UAE and Italy.

The card was allegedly used in highbrow shops, such as Marks and Spencer, Kingsgate, Natwest Bank, Gina stores and Harrods.

“ The balance in this account as at 9th September 2016 was $3,691,145.48.”

A source in EFCC said: “We have gone far in our investigation of the ex-First Lady to prove that it is not a case of witch-hunt in any manner whatsoever. We are already trying to verify the names of the depositors if they really existed or they are fake.

“ Since we have uncovered all these suspicious deposits, we only need her to account in court on how she came about them. Our crack teams worked day and night to trace these funds.

“With international collaboration, there is no hiding place for Politically Exposed Persons (PEPs) because some of these malls sometimes report suspicious transactions or spending. They marvelled at where top Nigerian political office holders and their spouses got the cash being lavished.”

The former First Lady, however, seems to be tired of litigation over her fortune. In a January 30, 2018 letter, titled “Proposal for out-of-Court Settlement of all cases related to Dame (Mrs.) Ibifaka Patience Jonathan,” she told the EFCC of her intention to settle the matter.

The letter, which was written by her counsel, Chief Ifedayo Adedipe (SAN), is being considered by the EFCC.

The letter said: “As senior counsel, representing Dame (Mrs.) Patience Jonathan (former First Lady) and companies linked to her and some family members, associates, companies and NGOs, we have thought it fit to engage your commission in a discussion over all issues involving her and the commission with a view to having amicable resolution of all cases as stated above.

“This will enable both sides create an atmosphere for mutual understanding and peaceful coexistence. We will therefore appreciate it, if you can give us an appointment at your earliest convenience to have a discussion over all matters involving her and members of her family.

“We believe that an amicable settlement will be in the best interest of both your commission and our client.

“We assure you of our utmost commitment and sincerity of purpose in this connection, and we solicit your cooperation in this regard. Please, accept the assurances of our warm regards.”

Another EFCC source said: “We have received a letter from the ex-First Lady, we are studying it on whether or not to accept the out-of-court settlement or allow justice to take its course.”

Apart from the cash, the ex-First Lady is linked to 12 choice properties and a plot of land on which a building is being built.

The investigative team had recommended that Section 7 of the EFCC Establishment Act 2004 be invoked on the properties after due verification.

The assets linked to Mrs. Jonathan in Port Harcourt are: Former Customs Service officers mess; two duplexes at 2/3 Bauchi Street; landed property with blocks at Ambowei Street; 3 Luxury apartments of 4-bedroom each at Ambowei Street; and Grand View Hotel along airport road.

In Yenagoa, the Bayelsa State capital, are two marble duplexes at Otioko GRA by Isaac Boro Expressway; Glass House along Sani Abacha Expressway which is housing Nigerian Content Development and Monitoring Board; Akemfa Etie Plaza by AP filling Station, Melford Okilo Road; and Aridolf Resort, Wellness and Spa on Sani Abacha Expressway.

http://thenationonlineng.net/31-suspects-put-11-4m-jonathans-wifes-account/amp/

Stuuuupid useless Zoo.
Calling Nigeria a Zoo is generous, because a typical zoo has order and laid down rules and routines. Nigeria is the most orderless nation in the world, a Glorified Forest .

All these mindless zombies enjoying their blame-it-on-Jonathan feeding time do not have the mental capacity to ask the very simple question of : what exactly is the crime that Patience Jonathan committed by having a bank with people paying monies in her account ?

Have the EFCC proven that the payments were direct government funds, bribes or kickbacks ?

All these so-called depositors, have any of them been convicted of stealing government funds and depositing such stolen funds in Patience Jonathan's account ?

If we look at Aisha Buhari's personal accounts , for good example, would we not also see funds deposits from various individuals and parties ?

If we look at Tinubu's personal bank accounts or Kingibe's personal bank account, for another example, would we not also find huge sums of money being deposited by various individuals and parties from time ?

Buhari and his EFCC do not understand the meaning corruption, let alone being able to wage a war against it.

tesppidd:
Lol!

See them living their names!

Wailing wailers!


Old man Tinubu,

Almost 70 years old,

Governor for 8 years,

Too shrewed for Jonathan and Obasanjo to handle,

Much wiser and more experienced than their fathers!



So they think Tinubu does not know when he's being used abi?

Stupid wailers who struggle to buy 10mdlb of data in a week are the ones to tell Tinubu he's being used abi?

Pathetic Nigerians!

Tinubu knows what he's benefiting in this government,
Especially through the office of the VP.


Teenagers who can't even keep a family are telling Tinubu how he's being used!

Hmm.

Laughing out loud.
Your position goes straight to the heart of the topic.

So, are you saying that Tinubu is supporting this government and would continue to support this government, this plague on the nation, simply because Tinubu has a stomach infrastructure pipeline to Aso Rock through the Vise President ?
The same Vice President that we hear is continually humiliated by the ASA Rock Cabal ?

And by the way, we thought that Tinubu was a statesman, not a political jobber.

Is Tinubu so cheap, so parochial, that he would sell out his Yoruba land and all of Nigeria to the full Fulani Hegemony and colonization for a promised second serving of personal plate of porridge ?

That, my friend, is the big question.

seunowa:
Pls stop foaming in d mouth
Why using paracetamol 4 anoda person headache?

Spoken like an empty vessel.
You didn't disappoint.

Rolandonyi:
Tinubu, always a leader per excellence. A true democrat who understands the tenets of democracy. A political colossus unequal to any other in the field of politics. I salute you!

This is not about saluting or praise-singing Tinubu .
Are you people too sophisticated to the point of foolishness ?
Can you see how the Fulanis use and dump even the smartest amongst you at will ?

Tinubu built up APC, got Buhari elected.
Buhari messed it up in 3 yrs, and even sidelined and rubbished Tinubu on many fronts.
Buhari puts all his cousins, nephews and kindsmen at every corner of his administration to run Nigeria like their personal fiefdom.

Now that Buhari desperately needs the southwest votes to win next year's presidential election in order to consolidate his final Fulani colonization of Nigeria, once again , he cleverly co-opts Tinubu, flatters him with cheap praises, and sets him to do the hard and dirty work of building unity and consensus, a character strength that he, Buhari, lacks.

Where is the so-called sophistication of Tinubu and the Southwest political intelligentia ?
To be used, rubbished and dumped ?

Fool me once , shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.

femi4:
You still don't have anything meaningful to say, why not get off my mentions and seek knowledge. I detest arguing with a folly

Lol.
Stop sulking.

Once you post an opinion on this forum, you should expect and get used to being quoted.
You don't get to choose who quotes you.

femi4:
why not prove me wrong. If you have no superior argument, forever hold your peace

You didn't make an argument in the first place that was worth proving wrong.

You just patched a typical sheeple group of words together and thought you had said something.
That's why I said it was meaningless.

realmindz:
It is so obvious you are a complete Olodo!!!

Imagine that the poster you quoted above is a product of an educational system .
Chai!!
You can see that Africa has a biiiiig problem.

femi4:
Animals behavior are default, from the way they eat, what they eat, how they give birth.

Only Man was created in God's image, so Man's behavior before and after the curse is different

BS.

Completely meaningless.

midolian:
So you believe that?

Its simple..The size of whatever the animal is giving birth to is always bigger than the "passage"..it will have to be forced out...so the forcing out is what causes the pain

I assume you didn't get the question.

Ebullience:
Pastor Enoch Adeboye on Friday night led members of the Redeemed Christian Church of God (RCCG) to pray against people shedding blood in Nigeria, their protectors as well as their sponsors at the church’s February Holy Ghost Service held at the Redemption Camp.

Members of the church in 198 countries participated in the programme through viewing centres. They prayed for the killers and their collaborators to be exposed and dealt with.

The pastor will also hold special three-hour prayer session for Nigeria‎ at the Redemption Camp of February 13.

Explaining why he had not personally commented on the widespread killings in the country despite calls by people for him to speak out, he said he belongs to the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN) and the Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria (PFN) ‎both of which have leaders who have spoken on the issues on behalf of their members, including himself.

But last night he decided to talk about the killings to members of the church in his capacity as their General Overseer. He chose to address the issues mathematically by reducing them to simultaneous equations to derive an answer.

Pastor Adeboye, a former university teacher, has a doctorate degree in mathematics. The equations, according to him, are:

· There are certain problems beyond man

· There is no problem beyond God

· Man can hide from his fellow man

· No man can hide from God

· Security agents can be compromised

· God cannot be compromised. His holiness is not negotiable and cannot be compromised.

· Man can sponsor evil

· God cannot sponsor evil

The answer to the equations solved simultaneously, he said, is just one answer; which is that “a prayer warrior is more effective than an activist”.

He described the correlation of answer to the tendency of enemies and some children of God to underrate the power of prayer. He then led the congregation in a series of prayers for the killers, people who connive with them and their sponsors to be exposed by God and dealt with.

Praying in a similar vein earlier, his wife, Folu Adeboye, who led congregational prayers for nations, pleaded for God to grant Nigeria victory over its challenges this month of February.

In his main sermon, which was a continuation of the church’s sermon series, titled “stronger than the enemy,” the General Overseer, likened the problems of individuals and nations to mountains, which can be moved by faith.

Recalling one of his prophecies for the year that “erstwhile stubborn mountains will move,” he called on the congregation to tackle their mountains head on.

He then highlighted the strategies to deal with mountains, leading the congregation in aggressive prayers to activate each of them at the service, which was largely devoted to prayers.

He advised strongly against tolerating one’s mountains because that makes the mountain remain; rather they should be confronted. “Don’t pretend there is no mountain, don’t ignore your problem, confront it,” he stressed.

He also advised against the practice of taking problems to fellow men always, instead of God. He cited the example of a barren woman who a pastor was ‎avoiding, but had 5 children after crying out directly to God.

According to the General Overseer, “A woman who had destroyed her womb during an attempt to abort a pregnancy gave the testimony. She had messed around, become pregnant and, because she tried to hide it from everybody, she tried an abortion which went wrong.

“When she was rushed to hospital, the doctors decided the only way to save her life was to remove her womb, which they did. And of course, she knew the result of that action when she got married – no babies.

Later, she became born-again and heard that God can do anything. So she started going to a man of God (I won’t mention names) to say, “Please, pray for me. I need children.”

“After many prayer sessions, the problem remained the same, even as other barren women were getting pregnant. So the man of God asked her to tell her story, and when she confessed her womb had been removed, the pastor started avoiding her. During one of her visits, she saw the pastor sneaking out to avoid her.

“From then, she decided to cry out to God directly. Then one day God visited her. She had a dream, in which she was stark naked, with a man holding an animal skin walking towards her. She became afraid but she was rooted to the spot, shaking; she couldn’t run. And when the man got close to her, he wrapped the animal skin round her and disappeared. The woman woke up sweating but she knew that she had been given a new womb because her menstruation resumed.”

The second strategy, he advised, is to talk to the mountain with faith as ‎Jesus admonished us to. “Engage your mountain in a conversation – tell it that between the two of you, one has to move, but it can’t be you because according the scriptures the Lord is always with you and you will not be moved; and He is your fortress so you cannot be shaken; and because you trust in the Lord you are as secure as Mount Zion.

Thirdly, he said, you need explain to the mountain that it is blocking your view, making it difficult to have a vision, then command it out of your way or even decree it to move.

However he said one has to live right with God to be able to issue decrees to problems, a reason he said, “I am crazy about the need to stay holy.”

In a testimony, he spoke about a tree in the middle of a major road in Lokoja, Kogi Sate, some years ago, which residents said could not be cut down for spiritual reasons. He said he took note of that and went ahead with the programme of the church. That night, he recalled, there was a rainstorm and by daybreak the tree was on its side, completely uprooted

Pastor Adeboye also advised that specific mountains should be identified in prayers and where they should be moved to be mentioned – cast it into the sea as in the example of Jesus.

He said when it is all done, one shouldn’t boast about it but should as a matter of urgency, return the glory to God.

After the prayers, he asked the pastors of the church to lay hands on everyone in the congregation to confirm the prayers and to ensure the mountains don’t return if people live right with God.‎

While that was going on, he went to a section of the altar to pray for people with special cases, he had asked to be brought during the Holy Ghost Services.

As is usual with the services, there were testimonies galore – of healing and even some members raising people from death with blessed handkerchiefs and anointing oil.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/257466-i-refused-speak-killings-nigeria-pastor-adeboye.html/

Fxxing idiot this Adeboye is.

Still busy promoting magical thinking, ignorance and docility,..for profit.

Adeboye especially, and other greedy and evil leaders like him are the primary reasons that Northern Jihadists will continue to conquer and continue to treat the rest of Nigeria like a conquered and occupied territory.

Just imagine a so-called priest and apostle of Jesus , who cannot speak out boldly and angrily against evil , against an orchestrated genocide of especially Christian minorities.

Adeboye, a money-hungry thief extraordinaire, a sophisticated conman who leads , financially saps, and has the ears of millions of sheeple home and abroad, is too cowardly to join the loud chorus of voices shaming the Nigerian government and security agencies.

At the very least, with RCCG coffers richer than most State governments, shouldn't RCCG be funding and running IDP camps for the survivors of Fulani herdsmen terror ?
When does the church of Jesus lead ?

Is it only "bring me your money" that the Church of Jesus stands for ?

Because of the reach and influence of this greedy coward, I see Adeboye as perhaps the greatest modern plague that has beset the Nigeria, and by extension, the entire African race.

BeeBeeOoh:
So for decades one region has been at the helm of the affairs of this country, eradicating poorverty in their region is a rocket science while the people they marginalized and are still maginalizing are living like King's in their red mud landlocked region. Truly truly, man proposes but God disposes.







Ndi Igbo Unu Kpóró Akpó Ka Chin-Chin

I Duff My Hat For Una

rlauncher:
Equating disagreement with you over how GEJ was mismanaging the country as hatred for Igbos is pathetic.
Unbelievable.

Comprehension comprehension!

In your haste , you missed the point of the gist.
It wasn't about any disagreement over GEJ's alleged mismanagement. Infact, like stated in my post, at one time, even I began to see GEJ through his eyes.

The clearly odious thing is that He could see how GEJ was supposedly mismanaging the country, but now , he is somehow completely blind to how Buhari is mismanaging the country .
That is called pure, unadulterated PREJUDICE.

With karma being a biaach, and the roles reversed, it becomes obvious that his beef with GEJ had nothing with how GEJ managed Nigeria, but simply that GEJ was Igbo in his eyes.

IgboBasthard:
So I should leave the land if my ancestors full of milk and honey to go to a barren, harsh, dry bush called igboland? To do what?

America dey there, Europe dey there, the fantastic nordic countries dey there, na Igboland I go carry bag talk say I dey go?

Because I need to prove to a refugee that I am not a coward. Like starting a war without weapons by that igbo general ? Remind me his name.

Lol.
What else is there for me to add to your very apt description of yourself ?

You are a true son of your father (?).

GoroTango:
Nigerians have accommodated your people and have provided the conducive atmosphere necessary for you to thrive, so you should be greatful to Nigerians for being so accommodative of you lot in spite of the obvious negative tendencies that some of you have

With all due respect sir, this is sooo BS.

In your haste, you also missed my most important point.

Are Igbos visitors or Foreigners to Nigeria for you to say " Nigerians have accommodated your people " ?

Are we refugees from another country ?

Secondly, kindly tell us who has provided a conducive environment for us to thrive .
Are area boys, Agberos and Omoniles and very well known institutionalized extortion culture of the Southwest your idea of a conducive environments upon which to economically thrive ?
Lol.
You must be joking.

Igbos suffer , endure and persevere every where they go to in Nigeria to in order to thrive.

No one gives Igbos any free lunches in Nigeria.
Igbos built everything they own in Nigeria. They were not given to them.

I'm happy that you acknowledge that we thrive.

But, I cannot fathom why you speak as if Igbos are not Nigerians.

GoroTango:
so you should be greatful to Nigerians for being so accommodative of you lot in spite of the obvious negative tendencies that some of you have

This is the part that I still cannot understand. It always amazes me that those shouting Nigerian unity Nigerian Unity are quick to remind others where they come from, and how we should be grateful to be living and thriving amongst them. The contradiction is very amusing and highlights a great deal of hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance.
It's either that Nigeria is a nation or not.

" inspite of the negative tendencies that some of us have " ?
Are you serious ?
And from what moral and ethical pedestal are you speaking from ?
Do you have any crime statistics, for example, to show that Igbos are less law abiding than say, Yorubas in any given setting ?
I will keep my own opinion to myself on this one.

But a reminder:
According to my own rough calculations, Southwest youths, calling themselves area boys, Agberos , Omoniles, etc, extort approximately N500B per annum from commercial activities in the city of Lagos alone. ( I stand to be corrected by anyone with a more accurate or academic figures)
So, sir, when next you are tempted to talk about the negative tendencies of Igbos, refresh your mind with my rough statistical figure.

IgboBasthard:
yeye! Keep quiet and respect your landlords before you are banished.

Was it not your people crying when asked to leave the North?

Mr Ego why are other Nigerians not migrating to Igboland?

No one is our landlord. That fact, you already know.

You're not intelligent enough to have comprehended my post, that's why you still ask why other Nigerians are not migrating to east.

Another reason might be perhaps that you are lazy, unambitious , unadventurous, and a coward that cannot function outside your geographical comfort zone.

uba1991:
Nobody hate d Igbo. If d north hate d Igbo they ll not accommodate them in nothern States like: kd,kano, abj, Adamawa, katsina, Jo's etc. If d Yoruba hate Igbo u won't see them in lag, Oyo,akure etc. D IGBOS ARE DIA OWN ENEMIES

Stop this nonsense about this or that crowd accommodating Igbos.
It is silly , irritating and factually incorrect.

To Accommodate means:

Definition of accommodate


accommodated; accommodating

transitive verb


1 : to provide with something desired, needed, or suited ·I needed money, and they accommodated me with a loan.



2 a : to make room for ·rebuilt the ship to accommodate the bigger containers


b : to hold without crowding or inconvenience ·a hotel that can accommodate about 100 people



3 : to bring into agreement or concord : reconcile ·Investors quickly accommodated themselves to the new market conditions.



4 : to give consideration to : to allow for ·trying to accommodate the special interests of various groups



5 : to make fit, suitable, or congruous

No one accommodates Igbos.
Igbos are mobile, agile and adaptive to whatever environment they find themselves, even in openly hostile environments.

Igbos do not go to anywhere to ask for special favors from any group.

If Nigeria is one country , then the issue of accommodation is meaningless and propaganda.

Being a citizen of Nigeria gives me the right to move , live and make a living in any part of Nigeria I desire. No person should say that they are accommodating me if you neither housing nor feeding me.

I have never heard of Igbos being given free parcels of land in any community in Nigeria.

Now, only people who think in shallow terms do not realise that Nigeria's development has been lopsided from day one.
Before Abuja as the federal capital, Every government agency, every driver of economic development such as the seaport, the international airport, every trade and professional association, every company headquarters were all based in Lagos. Therefore , Lagos and nearby cities were the only places that offered good employment prospects for professionals, tradesmen and commerce.
It is therefore not surprising that Igbos, perhaps the most mobile and adventurous group in Nigeria, flooded Lagos and other urban cities, especially after the civil war that devastated the economic backbone of the Southeast.

Lagos, and later the surrounding cities became the only game in town for young people all over the Southeast.

Now, I do not want to mention the contributions of Igbos to the economic development of the cities and communities that they have been migrating to since the end of the civil war. That's another topic for another thread.

horsepower101:
Blind hatred makes a human being make irrational choices like voting for a dinosaur politician called buhari.

Igbos warned so many bipolar groups against voting for buhari but because of their blind hatred they didn't listen. Their main objective was to do anything that will hurt the igbos. They didn't even care if it hurts them too. They wanted to cut their noses just to spite their faces.

Some groups will knowingly hurt themselves politically but their joy is that as long as it stops igbos from progressing.

This is the type of mentality igbos have constantly dealt with in Nigeria. The average Igbo has to realize an age Long fact: Nigerians are more anti-igbo than pro-Nigeria. This is something to think about.

Very true. I see it every day in my discussions with Nigerians from the different tribes.

I have a very well enlightened and respected Yoruba friend with whom I have always enjoyed having discussions and debates on National issues .
During the GEJ era, this fellow was so rabidly anti GEJ. Every single day he had something disparaging to say about GEJ. He claimed to have an inside scoop of what was going on in ASO Rock. He mocked GEJ so mock that even I began to see GEJ through his eyes.

The funny is that he would always say to me " See how your brother is messing up ".
For him, Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan = Igbo Man.

And I began to suspect that therein was the root of his hatred for GEJ.

Now fast to 2018, almost three yrs after GEJ's exit, and now that we know that 100% of his allegations against GEJ were pure lies, I am shocked beyond belief that he has very little criticism of the Buhari government, and even continues to blame GEJ and some veiled references to the Southeast as being responsible for Buhari's failures in governance.

He agrees that a united Nigeria is unworkable and should break up, but is anti Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB.
To him, Nigeria should stay as it is until Yorubas are ready.

So, at the end of the day I can't help coming to the conclusion he is more anti-Igbo than pro Nigeria.

How does this kind of shxt make it to the front page ?

What has become of Nairaland ?

doctokwus:
When does it launch in Lagos and Abuja and how does one become a member?

You're kidding , right ?

Here we go again, being conned and misled by yet another selfish politician.

This is not the time for a third force.
This is a time to unite and push out the plague called Buhari.
There should be no ambiguity that Buhari must be voted out.
A third force, as being hawked by this Janus-Faced Obasanjo, a primary beneficiary of PDP largesse for 16yrs, Isa diversionary tactic to DIVIDE THE VOTE AGAINST Buhari in the southwest, thereby handing Buhari the majority he needs to win next year's election.

If OBJ was sincere, why doesn't he carry his campaign to the North ?

He only wants dilute the opposition votes against Buhari, for the benefit of Buhari.

Once again, there is an attempt to con Southwest voters.

I wonder if they will be sophisticated enough to outsmart this conman called Obasanjo.

I have mixed feelings about OBJ.

I admire him in many ways.
I also loathe him in many other ways.

Obasanjo is the most ungrateful leader I have seen in my life.
In most countries, OBJ would be loathed as a man with zero values and zero integrity.

Obasanjo rode to power on the back of the PDP, a party he neither formed nor contributed financially to its organization.
Yet, he became the primary beneficiary of the PDP.

He contested and won 2 consecutive presidential elections under the banner of the PDP.
He enjoyed and basked in presidential power for 8 solid years under the protective umbrella of the PDP.

In fact, like a typical African leader, he quickly got intoxicated with the trappings of presidential power, and even tried to bribe his way to a constitutional amendment that would allow him to extend his tenure beyond two terms.

To fund his ambitions, there is no doubts in everyone's mind that OBJ looted the national treasury left right and center. There are witnesses and evidence to that fact.

It is also a very well known fact that OBJ went into the presidency very poor and came out stupendously wealthy.

Talk about corruption! undecided

Like the proverbial bird that challenges his god after overfeeding, OBJ was not only the first to ditch the PDP after his tenure, but worked assiduously to defeat the PDP during the 2015 presidential elections.

OBJ knew very well in advance that Buhari was going to roll Nigeria backwards.
He knew in advance of Buhari's tribalistic and nepotistic tendencies.
He knew in advance that Buhari was a very weak , aloof and clueless excuse for a leader who had no love, no passion for the plurality of the people of Nigeria.
Yet, in his typical vindictive fashion, just to get his pound of flesh from GEJ, whom he thought had slighted him, he encouraged the enthronement and rebalkanization of Nigeria by a person who had once committed treason against Nigeria.

Today, once gain, he is trying to scuttle the dreams and aspirations of the Nigerian people who are too eager to oust the plague of Buhari and the APC.

Obasanjo is nothing but a backbiter, a Janus Face that deserves nothing but loathing and Odium from the people of Nigeria.

BeeBeeOoh:








Woooooow! Never knew Fulani herdsmen were among the security agencies in Nigeria?

There you have it.

I have mixed feelings about OBJ.

I admire him in many ways.
I also loathe him in many other ways.

Obasanjo is the most ungrateful leader I have seen in my life.
In most countries, OBJ would be loathed as a man with zero values and zero integrity.

Obasanjo rode to power on the back of the PDP, a party he neither formed nor contributed financially to its organization.
Yet, he became the primary beneficiary of the PDP.

He contested and won 2 consecutive presidential elections under the banner of the PDP.
He enjoyed and basked in presidential power for 8 solid years under the protective umbrella of the PDP.

In fact, like a typical African leader, he quickly got intoxicated with the trappings of presidential power, and even tried to bribe his way to a constitutional amendment that would allow him to extend his tenure beyond two terms.

To fund his ambitions, there is no doubts in everyone's mind that OBJ looted the national treasury left right and center. There are witnesses and evidence to that fact.

It is also a very well known fact that OBJ went into the presidency very poor and came out stupendously wealthy.

Talk about corruption!

Like the proverbial bird that challenges his god after overfeeding, OBJ was not only the first to ditch the PDP after his tenure, but worked assiduously to defeat the PDP during the 2015 presidential elections.

OBJ knew very well in advance that Buhari was going to roll Nigeria backwards.
He knew in advance of Buhari's tribalistic and nepotistic tendencies.
He knew in advance that Buhari was a very weak , aloof and clueless excuse for a leader who had no love, no passion for the plurality of the people of Nigeria.
Yet, in his typical vindictive fashion, just to get his pound of flesh from GEJ, whom he thought had slighted him, he encouraged the enthronement and rebalkanization of Nigeria by a person who had once committed treason against Nigeria.

Today, once gain, he is trying to scuttle the dreams and aspirations of the Nigerian people who are too eager to oust the plague of Buhari and the APC.

Obasanjao is nothing but a backbiter, a Janus Face that deserves nothing but loathing and Odium from the people of Nigeria.

Igbos made their views known in 1967.
Very little has changed in Nigeria ever since.

If 1967 was rush to action when we were pushed to the wall, we have had 50yrs upon which we tried to adapt and hope for correction and fairness. Nigeria never got better in terms of equity and fairness.

In fact, the recent Fulani herdsmen nationwide terrorism and the tepid reactions from the hausa Fulani dominated security agencies are eerily similar to the org.ies of uncontrolled genocide visited on the Igbo people in 1967.

Sincerely, we don't want to wait another 50 yrs to see if Nigeria will get better and fairer.
We would rather not belong in this failed setup .
It is an unworkable marriage, even for convenience.

We reached that conclusion 50yrs ago.
We are told that we were wrong.

Well, Ask the minority tribes of the middle belt how they feel today.

danvon:
Too bad that these intelligent atheist won't share their 'logical truth' With us

Go to a library and get a library card.
You mind will be better off .
I assure you.

By the way, where is the nearest library in the Nigerian city where you live ?
And when was the last time, if ever, you visited that storehouse of knowledge ?