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FamilyRe: Rising Cost Of Living In Nigeria, What Of The Poor Among Us? by plaetton: 1:53pm On Oct 01, 2023
Kobojunkie:
The country has been trading national progress for the sake of the poor for decades now and what has been the response from the poor in that time? To breed and multiply like rats. The population of Nigeria is expected to Ballon to over about 370 million in the next 25 years if current trend continues. Before the removal of subsides , the situation was already bad for the poor. Do you think it is going to get better 25 years from now if no drastic changes are made to correct the many problems in the country now? undecided

2. The poor need to change. And adversity typically presents the best opportunity for the change needed. undecided
What am I just reading? huh

The poor need to change? huh

Are in your right mind ?

This is how psychopaths reason.
Foreign AffairsRe: Canadian PM Trudeau High On Cocaine, Plane Loaded With Drugs - Vohra by plaetton: 3:54pm On Sep 28, 2023
Absolute nonsense.

How gullible people can be.

Hindustan Times is now the source of credible information ?

Canada has just recently outed the government of India as sponsor of international terrorism.
And this is how India is responding?
PoliticsRe: David Hundeyin: FBI Has 70,000 Pages On Tinubu. We Requested 2,500 by plaetton: 7:48pm On Sep 26, 2023
ganisucks:
These are not the best of times. But I believe the FBI will take national, regional and global security into consideration and so will redact most of the parts that are likely to be misconstrued and manipulated by the opposition.
I agree that it would most likely be redacted, but for a different reason. The main reason would be that the FBI would not want to out their former government informant and possibly spy.
TravelRe: Nigerians Abroad. Share Your Experience With Racism And Discrimination by plaetton:
CandidAdmin:
Nigerian based abroad, please share your experience with racist or when you are being discriminated because of your color.



Note: This is not an Anti Japa thread.
I
face more discrimination in Nigeria than I have ever faced anywhere abroad.
PoliticsRe: Are Nigerians The Most Docile People On The Planet Earth? by plaetton: 1:44pm On Sep 21, 2023
Emekaphilip360:
Nigeria Air - Scam
Subsidy - Scam
Palliatives - Scam
Minimum wage 30k, no one is complaining
EFCC only chasing boys surviving on their own leaving politicians to have a field day. Food prices keep soaring, Increase in house rent. No protest, No complain. Everyone acting like everywhere is good. Suffering and smiling on the low.
We are just too docile in this country. Everyone just looking for where to eat. It’s crazy out there!
Yes, we are.

And the most stuupid too.
PoliticsRe: We Buy Oil From Nigeria Refined It And Sell It Back To Them-a Singaporean Lady by plaetton: 3:31pm On Sep 13, 2023
Programmer47:
This is how am average batidiot thinks. No sense, no direction, just how to drag Obi and throw insults.

Blaming a country's citizens for importation?
Like, which brain una get?
4 refineries and no one is working and you correlated with Individuals importing?
Most of you need real help, not just with finance but with your mentality.
At this point, you can't think rationally again. The next thing is to insult me and throw tribal slurs as usual. Very senseless mob of individuals
Don't mind that fool.

That same fool that pretends to complain about importation by Igbos also surrounds himself and his family with imported products.

I think that, unfortunately, the quality of minds our system produces is directly proportional to the quality of leaders we are saddled with.
PoliticsRe: We Buy Oil From Nigeria Refined It And Sell It Back To Them-a Singaporean Lady by plaetton: 3:19pm On Sep 13, 2023
Programmer47:
This is how am average batidiot thinks. No sense, no direction, just how to drag Obi and throw insults.

Blaming a country's citizens for importation?
Like, which brain una get?
4 refineries and no one is working and you correlated with Individuals importing?
Most of you need real help, not just with finance but with your mentality.
At this point, you can't think rationally again. The next thing is to insult me and throw tribal slurs as usual. Very senseless mob of individuals
Thank you very much.
The way the average literate Nigerian thinks is what really makes very pessimistic about the possibility of turnaround of the Nigerian situation.
Nigeria started importation of refined petroleum from the Abacha era. Abacha awarded the contract for refinery maintenance to his late son for $500m. When the boy died in a plane crash, the contract was left in a limbo. Then Abacha decided to award a contract for the importation of petrol to his daughter. As soon as they tasted that sweet nectar of importing fuel , all the big thieves in Nigeria joined fuel importation wandwagon. The idea of fixing the refineries became unimportant. This is how the whole fuel importation racket began.

Now, an educated fool is someone trying to blame Obi and Igbos for the importation of fuel.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Africans Always Blame Slavery And Colonialism For Their Suffering? by plaetton: 3:46pm On Sep 08, 2023
mrvitalis:
Lmao and Europe love themselves?

Are you ready for for tribal identity to die? Because that's the only way to make Nigeria work
Yes, even Europeans spread to conquer, they did so for their countries, to secure the future of their nations. They went out , knowing that they may die in their journeys and they might not ever personally reap the fruits of their efforts. Their effort were for the future generations of Europeans. Today, they still plan decades ahead for their future generations.
The African man can betray his own mother, talkless of his nation for a loaf of swewt bread now.

So tribal identity , as you mentioned, is just another name for self-hatred.
It is cutting one's nose to spite one's face.
PoliticsRe: Why Do Africans Always Blame Slavery And Colonialism For Their Suffering? by plaetton: 3:21pm On Sep 08, 2023
SmartPolician:
You people always look for ways to make excuses for your failures, but you never take responsibility for them.

What's wrong with the black man?

Let's even say that Nigeria is not working. Is the white man stopping us from splitting the country? No way! We are our own problem!

Listen, there's rarely any country in this world where everyone comes from the same tribe. A people understand what nationhood means, set goals and work towards it on the framework of justice, equity and fairness.

With a population of over 300 million immigrants from all over the world, the United States is more diverse than any other country you can think of. I am not writing about different tribes, but different races! Yet, those guys understand there's strength in diversity, they are tapping into it and making progress. Today, the whole of Nigeria wants to empty into America.

We have a country of just 200 million people of entirely black people, but we cannot manage ourselves. While more diverse America is making progress, Nigerians are busy blaming the colonial masters for the same evil they do unto themselves. When we say that Nigerians lack creativity and are too mentally lazy, some people get angry.

Go and read about how the white man arrived cold and unfertile Canada. Despite the terrible climate of the land, they never left until they made something out of it. Today, again, Nigerians want to empty into Canada.

We have seen how Rwanda has two major tribes but keeps electing Paul Kagame from a minority tribe to lead them for years because they saw the huge potential in him. In Nigeria, we elect idiots and wail that they don't know what the are doing because electoral decisions are based on tribe and religion.

Lest I forget, in Nigeria, we are full of evil, greed and wickedness clothed with religion. We hate one another. Even if you split Nigeria into 50 units, there won't be love among the 50 countries that came out of defunct Nigeria because the only thing we care about is oppression, selfishness, showoff, wickedness, crimes, avarice, and we cover all these evils with religion.

This country needs to be totally reshuffled because we are a sick people!
Well said
PoliticsRe: Why Do Africans Always Blame Slavery And Colonialism For Their Suffering? by plaetton: 3:21pm On Sep 08, 2023
mrvitalis:
You obviously don't have ambition so you won't notice the obstacles placed... The low ceiling faced by people

This is the same question people ask igbos

Colonial masters left Africa in a structure that is almost impossible to progress... We were set up to fight and kill ourselves ( there was a reason France insisted to be sole arms supplier to its colonies)

Restructure Europe like Africa and watch them kill themselves in 3 years

Every country progressing today is either structured along ethnic lines or settler nations where indigenous people have insignificant population

You can't have a country like Nigeria n work it's impossible
Pure nonsense.

Africans hate themselves. That's the reason we don't progress.
Africans harder plan for the future. They only think about their personal needs t at any given instant. Africa breeds the worst leaders in the history of the world.
Sure, the Europeans are Greedy, but the greed of African leaders is the primitive, self-serving greed.
PoliticsRe: Rivers Govt Begins Demolition Of AIT, Daar Comms Office In Port Harcourt by plaetton: 7:21pm On Sep 03, 2023
Deepspirituals:
Which Title is this one talking about .

Destroy Property ,Render People Jobless .what a wicked acts .

What is it about Title ,Didn't they pay for it or they just took over and occupy,if there are a y title the Government want from AIT it has to do with Money to procure can't they just name it.

Wicked Souls Everywhere
I am thoroughly ashamed of my race.
It's funny that Africans still blame France, Britain and the West for all the problems in Africa. Yet the African produces the most heartless and worthless set of leaders in the entire world.
PoliticsRe: Rivers Govt Begins Demolition Of AIT, Daar Comms Office In Port Harcourt by plaetton: 7:17pm On Sep 03, 2023
Uyomiya:
Black man .



🤣🤣🤣
A horrible species .
PoliticsRe: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 3:28am On Aug 28, 2023
DeepSight:
These three things are a huge part of the explanation for where we are today - but please note that I hasten to add that I do not say this as any excuse. We have utterly failed and need to brace up and take responsibility and do better.

I just wish to note that people often tend to dismiss the impact of these three things in retarding Africa.

Long time bro.
Long time indeed.
My salutations to you wordy sire grin

That colonialism existed and that the west still exert negative influences in Africa are facts etched in stone. No one can dispute these facts.
But, remember that our leaders fought hard to wrestle power and control of resources from the colonial powers. They fought hard because of the promise of controlling our own destiny for the future generations of Africans. Over the past 6 decades, what can we look and say that our leaders have achieved for us since we started controlling our own destiny? Zero.
Instead of bread and milk that they promised, our leaders have offered us stone. And rather than for us to do genuine self-reflection, we are today still pretending that we are redoing the jobs that Azikiwe, Awolowo, Herbert Macaulay , Nkrumah, etc, had already done 60yrs ago.

My fear is that in the next 30yrs , our children would still be singing this same old, stale song.
PoliticsRe: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 3:17am On Aug 28, 2023
DeepSight:
I believe it is fair enough if Sangoamadioha1 says that some of the pre-colonial societal arrangements in Africa were socialist or akin to socialism.

Not all, just some. There were actually very warlike and predatory African Empires and States all over the place. Also many were trade kingdoms with a highly mercantile nature. There were also despots and blood thirsty tyrants.
Agreed.
But any society where there is private ownership of land and property, and where goods are traded for profit, cannot be classified as socialist. Socialism itself is a modern concept, a reactionary ideal.

In order to say that free market capitalism is somehow bad for us, one should be able to show a comparable system, and that system has to have been successful somewhere at some time.
The free-market system is an equal opportunity system that rewards the most efficient allocation of resources.
The so-called socialist system that puts power and control of resources in a few hands on behalf of the people cannot ever work in Africa, even if had ever worked anywhere else.
If free-market democracy, as imperfect as it , gives the masses the power to elect representative governance, and it still gives Africans the wicked and avaricious leaders, just imagine what it would look like if that same power and resources are allocated to even fewer hands on behalf of the citizens.

What I find particularly dumbfounded and annoying is this rehashing of a very very old and stale song of how the west is responsible for our woes. African leaders have caused more wholesale destruction of the African dream that the colonialist ever did.
Even the colonial economic , infrastructural and administrative legacies left behind have been totally obliterated by successive regimes of wicked African leaders.
How can anyone look at daily events in Nigeria, a Dystopian Paradise, and still be able to point fingers at the west?
PoliticsRe: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 10:27am On Aug 27, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Try all these on a less intelligent person. You are ignorant of the issue you are arguing about but hiding under a facade of false superiority.
I thought i would even gain some knowledge from you through your thought process but I never knew i was wasting my time with a dullard with a superiority complex.
I am through with you.
Laughing out loudly. grin

Capitulation by any other pretenses is still Capitulation.
PoliticsRe: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 9:59am On Aug 27, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
And the guy does not even know about his culture. Go and read up about African culture before the white man came. As an advocate of capitalism, you should be able to pay for your knowledge, so i refuse to educate you for free.
This guy can't be serious.
This is not happening huh

You postulated something.
I only asked for where and when it happened, and you cannot even show me ? You're asking me to read up on African culture?
Are you kidding me ?

My dear friend, now I know why you failed most of your courses. grin

I find it very amusing that people come to a public forum to pontificate on issues for which they have half-baked knowledge and zero verifiable facts.
PoliticsRe: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 9:46am On Aug 27, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
In the olden days, the community will give you land to farm. You and your age grades will work on each others farms. You give some parts of your produce to the community. The community in turn helps those that need help with these contributions.
Now lie to yourself if this is not how the average African society is before the white man.
Like I said, you don't know the meaning of socialism.
Where exactly was this practiced ?
Name the place and time, please.
PoliticsRe: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 9:25am On Aug 27, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
I should be asking you if you know what socialism is if you dont know that Africans practice socialism as a cultural norm.
Capitalism and democracy are western cultures not suited for us. Please show me one African country doing well with pure capitalism and democracy, just one example.


An example of African society that practiced socialism and succeeded is Libya (Gaddafi's era). There are other examples but let's start with this.
Ha ha ha.
I challenged you to show proof of something, and then you throw it back at me to show you proof of the opposite.
Very very brilliant grin

You failed to give me even one single example of a precolonial culture in Nigeria that practiced socialism, an obvious repudiation of your earlier statement.
Congratulations! You just scored an F in common sense, and an A+ in fragmented thinking.

As for Libya being your example of a successful socialist nation, that is soooo laughable.
I actually feel a tad embarrassed just reading such nonsense in defense of Africa's perennial failures in governance in a public forum.
PoliticsRe: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 2:41am On Aug 27, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
Does civilization mean copying the west. Africans by our heritage and culture are more socialist in ideology than capitalism which is a western culture. Our economic model should be socialist in nature. That is looking at your peculiarities to resolve your challenges and not just copying in the name of civilization.
First of all, kindly name any tribe in Nigeria whose economic culture was socialism. And I hope you understand the meaning of socialism.

Secondly, If you name any country on earth were socialism has succeeded as an economic model, I would be willing to listen you a bit more.

The funny but sad thing about Africa, with Nigeria as a good example, is that we continue to fail at every single subject , every year, and rather than do a thorough self- examination, we keep blaming our teachers and our schools for not being good enough.

We blame slavery, colonialism, neo-colonialism. We blame the free market capitalism ,and then we blame the democratic system of government as not being suitable enough for us, even though the free market system and democratic system of government is working very well for our ThirdWorld peers, who were also previously colonized like us.
If we were a child, we would be treated as a dysfunctional child with learning disabilities.
And that's the bitter truth we should be telling ourselves.
PoliticsRe: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 5:58pm On Aug 26, 2023
misano:
Bro, what you should understand is that Nigeria is a special case. We have to change those policies to fit our behaviours, lifestyle and culture.

For example the FBI is being managed by the American president and still it's not very corrupt. But in Nigeria the DSS and EFCC are like guard dogs to corrupt politicians.

Now look at this way, what if we break the EFCC and DSS from being managed by the FG? Let the EFCC make their money directly from the lots and fines of the politicians and the money stolen from by the Yahoo boys. I think it will drastically reduce corruption in Nigeria.
I disagree.

What we need is to nurture and allow institutions of governance to grow mature and strong.
PoliticsRe: So You Think Nigeria Will One Day Become A Great Country? How? by plaetton: 5:39pm On Aug 26, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
We are aping the white man. When we plan and develop with solutions Indigenous to our local situations, then things can start making sense.
We are applying western solutions to our local problems that is why no foreign economic model has ever worked in Nigeria. What works in other countries never seem to work in Nigeria.
By the time we get a proper nationalist or Afro centric leader then we can start developing, for now we just dey catch cruise.
I guess you mean that common sense, patriotism, prudent economic planning and management, constitutional democracy and the rule of law are all western solutions that cannot work in Africa.
RIGHT?

Well, So far, that has proven to be correct.
So maybe we should abandon civilization entirely and just live like animals.
PoliticsRe: How Tinubu's Incompetence Is Costing Us $3B Plus by plaetton: 12:51pm On Aug 17, 2023
seunmsg:
Validated or whatever you call yourself, I thought you said you are a chartered accountant with many years of experience. It’s such a shame reading this kind of rubbish from you.

Do you guys even understand the details of the $3billion loan at all?

Let me educate you and your likes. The loan from AFREXIM is not a typical loan like you guys are making it. It is more like an upfront payment for future crude oil production. The loan will not be paid back in cash but with guaranteed crude oil supply. So, it won’t affect our future inflow in anyway in as much as we can meet the required crude oil production level.
That makes it even worse.
The fact it is the future petroleum earnings that have been mortgaged for this ill conceived policy is even crazy. Among so many other things, that $3b could be invested in education with a 100% guaranteed return on investments for the nation.

The whole idea of allowing Naira to float was to allow market forces to determine its true equilibrium value and ultimate stability. Once the cat has been let out of the bag, it's not possible to hold the Naira back through rash policy.
Even with this adhoc non- event ,the Naira would resume its downward descent in a few weeks time. I'm still predicting N1250 as the point where Naira drops to before it finds permanent stability.
PoliticsRe: Africa Needs A Benevolent Dictator Not Democracy??? by plaetton: 4:52am On Aug 16, 2023
KnowAll:
From my experience, governments in Africa who practice democracy are all about what they can acquire within the speculated time they allowed by their various constitutions.

As a result most of our states in Nigeria and most of our countries in Africa are less developed as supposed to be o ent dictators like Museveni of Uganda and Kegsme of Rwanda who really love their countries and are benevolent in allowing development of several sectors of the economy simultaneously.

So. Why don’t we look for a benevolent dictator.
Sometimes I think like this too..
But, here are the facts.
There has never been a benign dictatorship Africa, talkless of a successful one.
In fact, looking back over the past 60yrs,African Dictators are mostly responsible for the embarrassing and pathetic failures in governance in Africa. The failure rate of non democratic governments or Dictatorships in Africa has been 99%.
Africa has been there, done that, and should have ultimately learned important lessons therein.

For example,Nigeria , every single travail we face today stemmed from military overthrow and intervention of democratic governments.
Why would we even contemplate something that has been tried and failed in almost every African country?
PoliticsRe: Picture Of The Oldest Secondary School In Southeast Nigeria. by plaetton: 7:11pm On Aug 03, 2023
successmatters:
Wow

This school trained many great men and women.
Including yours truly .
smiley
PoliticsRe: What Do You Think About His Quote on The Bible by plaetton: 2:42pm On Aug 01, 2023
jmoore:
Coming from an atheist that spends so much time in religious section. Who dedicates so much time in what he doesn't believe in?
Yes indeed sir.
Like any curious mind, I am perpetually bewildered and still studying and trying to understand the mystery of blind faith, and how people can adopt a worldview that falls outside the periphery of facts, rationality and common sense.
PoliticsRe: What Do You Think About His Quote on The Bible by plaetton: 11:58am On Aug 01, 2023
BeLookingIDIOT:
What do you think?
Is he not correct ?
Are Africans the last people on Earth to hear that the bible is a selection of books, letters and fictional fables that has been edited and redacted from time over the past 2000yrs by the church ?
PoliticsRe: Why Are We Using The Dollar System? by plaetton: 9:56pm On Jul 26, 2023
LexNuel:
I have always asked myself this question. Why are we using the dollar system. Why are we exchanging goods & services using the dollar as a reference point?...how did the world get to this point.

I mean first, it was the barter system; which was in its own right effective. But Education said there was no way to quantify what is equivalent to what.. how many tubers of yam should be equivalent to one bowl of rice etc.

Then we went to cowries... Education said the shells were not uniform enough..

We tried Gold.. ah!! Its too scarce...trade deficit issues, it can being down the economy.. blah blah blah.. Government cannot control it...which Government actually? 😏😏

And now it's dollar.. and they say it's efficient because that is the major advantage the US has over other countries.

Kenyan President, Ruto, once asked "why we are trading with US dollar in africa"..Why?.. why give the dollar more power...

The US has its hook in our throat with the dollar. They say prices are controlled naturally but we both know that's not true...

And I'm just here thinking, will we ever get out of this dollar system? The same way we were convinced to leave cowries and gold.. even though we had it in abundance compared to the west.

Now the West is in control...

Where do we go from here?
If you look at history, the nation with the most powerful Naval power tend to be the most dominant power.
In the modern era, aside from the US being the most dominant military power, more importantly , the US has the most diversified and versatile economy in the world. The diversity and versatility creates the kind of economic stability that no other nation in the world can rival.
The the diversity and dynamism of the US economy and financial system absorbes all the shocks and unpredictability of all other economies.
Smart money looks for safety above every other consideration.
Therefore, the US dollar is always , and would always remain the reserve currency, the currency of last resort in any period of the global economic cycle .
PoliticsRe: Tinubu Will Shock The World. Tinubu Will Join BRICS Then West Brings War On Us by plaetton: 10:34pm On Jul 23, 2023
sukkot:
And wherever nigeria goes, the rest of africa follows and the whole africa joining BRICS means the end of the west. africa is that geese that always lays the golden egg for the west. so this is why 3 powerful chinese warships is in nigeria right now for that BRICS protection when tinubu makes the announcement , because best believe the west would bring that war to our doorsteps after the announcement . i hope yall ready for this war, hope you have your bunkers ready and my igbo brothers start the engine of that ogbunigwe
Warped logic.

Brics is the biggest joke of the century. It would even be a much bigger joke if Nigeria, a failed state, joins them.
HealthRe: Growing Menace Of Poison Among Friends At Beer Parlours by plaetton: 1:11pm On Jul 22, 2023
ibechris:
Pls, there is a growing menace of friends poisoning their friends at beer parlours, lounge or bars.

Watch out especially now that begging has increase among peers, friends and family members and close allies.

Just this morning my class mate was pronounced dead, as he was poisoned and left to die.

I saw another video of recent which was prior to this news, where a guy was poisoned and he died in an inhumane manner...vomiting blood and all sort before a doctor pronounced him dead.

Pls, watch and drink smart before the unthinkable happens.

People are just not happy seeing u do well.
Don't get it twisted as most people think it should be them and not u that is successful.

Be wise.
We tend to be too quick to point accusing fingers before aacertaining the true cause of death.
Nigerians , especially the younger folks, ingest excess amounts of power drinks that contain excess amounts of caffeine, as well as all manners of concoctions for sexual enhancement or just to get high.
I think we should be careful im pointing accusing fingers at friends before we know the true cause of death as pronounced by a competent professional.
PoliticsRe: We Can’t Release Tinubu’s Criminal Cases, Immigration Records Till 2026 - FBI by plaetton: 12:06am On Jul 20, 2023
yinkus6750:
What an unusual personality, with unusual exemption and immunity even coming from the FBI.
Grace is really speaking and covering him up.
Well, what will be , has been.
Even if anything changes tomorrow, he has achieved his life long ambition.
What an exemptional personality.
Lol.
It's called blackmail, and it is something that intelligence agencies thrive on and dream of.
Imagine having a salacious dosier of the president of an oil producing and most influential nation in Africa.

That's a gem of a catch.
There is no way they are going to release his records. His records are now a strategic US geopolitical asset.
He is now and permanently their puppet. He must get their permission for any key economic, political or geopolitical decision.

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