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Christianity Etc › Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by plaetton: 5:21pm On Oct 08, 2016
Ishilove:
The phenomenon called spirit spouses is actually deeper than this
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And you know this for sure.

I can you that the reality of real spouses is Also deeper than most people THINK, talkless of imaginary spouses.
grin grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: Logical Explanation For Spirit Husband Or Wife by plaetton: 5:19pm On Oct 08, 2016
Seun:
The logical explanation for having sex with someone in your dream is horniness. The solution is regular safe sex. Self-service can also help.
Lol. grin

As simple and plain as daylight. No complicated logic.
Politics › Re: TINUBU: The Oneness Of Yoruba Leaders, And Unity Of The South And Middle Belt by plaetton: 4:30pm On Oct 08, 2016
While this is a good to shout " ha ha ha, I told you ", it is also time for a sad reflection where we could have been if the empire, the evil empire had not struck back in 2015 to reclaim the mantle of leadership.

The narrow-mindedness of the southwest elites is just mind boggling.

Obasanjo demystified and slowly , but significantly rolled back the power and mystique of feudal oligarchs of Northern Nigeria.

Yaradua tried to roll back the gains, but was stopped by the cold hands of death.
Jonathan stayed course, albeit in a somewhat shaky and tepid manner.
By the end of Jonathan's tenure , the anger had swelled up so much amongst the Feudal oligarchs, that they swore to remove him and restore themselves to power by all means possible.
Tinubu , a very greedy and ambitious political demagogue, was a ready and willing tool.
So, with the political and propaganda machinery of Tinubu and the southwest axis media, the empire struck back and regained what it had lost for almost 16yrs.

And now, it's deja vu all over again. undecided
Politics › Re: Between Tinubu And Buhari: The Modern Day Afonja And Alimi – By Reno Omokri by plaetton: 3:42pm On Oct 08, 2016
arresa:
Coming from a dishonest 419 fake pastor, a crooked clown and identity theft loser..



Wonders shall never end... grin grin
You are actually quite the pathetic person on this thread.

Truth stings like a bee.
Politics › Re: "Nigeria Is Not A Nation" - Former Vice President, Dr. Alex Ekwueme Spits Fire by plaetton: 2:58am On Oct 08, 2016
IVORY2009:
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You can never fail to disappoint, did you take timeout to read and digest the write-up before ur usually rush to comment as "Chairman first to comment" you are always in a hurry to comment!!
HUNGERbad is paid to write stuff here.
Don't forget that.
Politics › Re: "Nigeria Is Not A Nation" - Former Vice President, Dr. Alex Ekwueme Spits Fire by plaetton: 2:57am On Oct 08, 2016
MayorofLagos:
I saw where he is classified as "RENOWNED ARCHITECT" . What renown work has he produced?

Ekwueme is an Architect, Ngozi Iweala is a urban planner/developer. They both have money,influence and leadership. In their lifetime, why is SE looking like a huge IDP camp?
You mean southeast of your village ?

Not the south east that I know.
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Know If Your Religion Is The Fake One! by plaetton: 7:35pm On Oct 07, 2016
DeepSight:
https://www.nairaland.com/368387/krayola-state-case-historical-jesus

This is an interesting and thought provoking thread from the old days. It has strong arguments against a historical Jesus.
The OP, one of the most intelligent atheists ever on this board, left the forum later saying he had realized he was influencing people more than he thought, or so.
Thanks Depardo. wink
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Know If Your Religion Is The Fake One! by plaetton: 6:11pm On Oct 07, 2016
Wilgrea7:
www.Google. com
Lol. grin
I just googled.com.
I didn't see any proof on Google.com. huh

Can you kindly put the link here.
Thank you in advance.
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Know If Your Religion Is The Fake One! by plaetton: 5:26pm On Oct 07, 2016
Wilgrea7:
actually there's a lot of historical proofs that Jesus existed. most historical proofs don't acknowledge him as the son of God but the concrete proof is there that he did exist
Repeating that a thousand times is still not proof.

Pls help Show us some of the proofs, because I haven't seen any yet.
Christianity Etc › Re: How To Know If Your Religion Is The Fake One! by plaetton: 12:36pm On Oct 07, 2016
lexiyandra:
It has been historically proven that Jesus existed. Where there is contention is if he is the Son Of God. That is where faith come in. I choose to exercise my faith and accept Jesus is Lord. We make plans for tomorrow even when we have no proof that we won't die in our sleep. That in itself is Faith.
It has been historically proven by whom, and when ? shocked
Do you mind sharing and updating that proof with us here ?
Because, as far as many of us know, there has been ZERO proof that Jesus actually existed.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why No Christian Lady Should Ever Marry An Atheist!! by plaetton: 7:09pm On Oct 06, 2016
Op Fail.

On the contrary.

Atheists enjoy a much better batting average with smart women than their religious counterparts.

Women tend to find atheists intriguing, smart, reality oriented and less pretentious.

Once you tell a woman that you're an atheist, it peaks her interest, her curiosity. You immediately stand out from the crowd.

Women married to atheists tend to be happier, because of the absence of that extra luggage.
Politics › Re: Nigeria Has Realised N2.7trn From TSA – Buhari by plaetton:
HungerBAD:
Good.

A prudent President.

In today's edition of let us test how intelligent the wailers are. We will give them the opportunity to bring some ideas forward on how this 2.6 Trillion can be used to develop Nigeria.

The people on Nairaland complaining about Buhari,share one thing in common. And that is any lack of objectivity.

It usually starts with one always ,who will lead the way with their childish taunts of how does this help the economy?then another will say,how does this take us out of recession?then you can tell the least intelligent ones among them,by the "It is a Propaganda" chant.

So,now is the opportunity for you Criers to show us how intelligent you guys are.

The Government has just realized 2.6 Trillion from the TSA,so the wailers should educate us on how the money can be used,in a way that it can make an impact in the Society.
C'mon .
You are more intelligent than this.

Be careful how you parrot Buhari, because most times , Buhari doesn't understand what he is talking about, especially on issues of economics and finance.

The TSA is just what it says; an account that government money is paid into.
It is just like your savings account, but without the monthly interests.

Now, let me ask you. When your monthly salary , let's say N18k, is paid into this saving account, can you claim with all honesty that your Savings account is generating N18k per month ? huh

That would be silly, even to a child.
Wouldn't it , sir?
This is exactly what Buhari is saying.

Only someone totally ignorant or bereft of ideas would thump his chest and claim that TSA is generating money.

The TSA is not generating any money that the government didn't already have or has access to.

The only difference now, please read carefully, is that all the government funds are in a single account.
It doesn't mean, as this propaganda government wants zombies to believe, that TSA is generating any new or additional funds.
This is a shameful lie.

If Buhari was sincere or really understands what he is doing, he should be telling Nigerians and the world what new sources of revenue the government have discovered or are currently exploring.

Regurgitating this TSA nonsense shows that Buhari is Still miles away from understanding how the economy works.

And you, hungerbad, stop peddling ignorance. undecided
Family › Re: For Experienced Married Men Only by plaetton: 1:25pm On Oct 05, 2016
nmreports:
There is really no point confronting her. It could lead to more denial or all sorts.

Be a good man... Watch her keenly till you get to the root of the matter. Either she is cheating on you emotionally, sexually or it's just a one off conversation.

Either way, get to the root of this without suspicion, accusations or attacks.

Watch and be vigilant. Simple.
Exactly.

Op.
Now that you have suspicions and some evidence, I suggest you continue to play DUMB.
Do not confront her now. It's too early.

Be patient, play DUMB, act aloof, but remain ever vigilant.The more you seem aloof the more bold and reckless she would become until you gather all the concrete evidence you need to give her the boot.

Don't listen to these people telling you to sit her down and talk to her.
Unfaithfulness starts in the heart/ mind.
Politics › Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by plaetton: 10:54pm On Oct 04, 2016
Forwetinnah:
Really? But you fought and bickered about Booooohari being President with all intensity. The mallam has only not failed Nigerians but has also given your pay master a rude awakening and suddenly you're thinking about the common man? Wonderment shocked
I can't help but laugh at you lot...sour grapes grin
I have no idea what you're talking about , buddy.
Politics › Re: Time To Rally Round Bola Tinubu, By Femi Aribisala by plaetton: 12:49pm On Oct 04, 2016
Everyone is busy speculating about the political calculus of 2019, but few are speculating about the economic conditions of 2019.
What will be the price of garri , bread, milk and rice by 2019?
Will people start eating rats and lizards for protein ?
These are the important questions that should occupy our minds.

It's really ironic how the ordinary folks bicker and fight among themselves about which BIGMAN should occupy ASO Rock and enjoy a N2b feeding budget while they, the ordinary folks are condemned to feed on rats and lizards.


As it was in the 1960s, so it is today. Same politics.
In another 100 yrs, it will remain the same politics. All politics, no progress.

Unless power is devolved at the center, and we have regional autonomy, we will continue to go in circles for another 1000 years.
Politics › Re: Why Does The Average Yoruba Man Support Buhari Even More Than Northerners? by plaetton: 12:19pm On Oct 04, 2016
CecyAdrian:
Buhari is a good man and not only the Yoruba's love him even an average Igbo man does love him.
.

Kindly tell us in what ways that Buhari is a good man.

I can tell you at least 10 ways that makes him a dishonest man.
Politics › Re: Fresh $30million Found In Bank Accounts Linked To Patience Jonathan (pic) by plaetton:
SamuelAnyawu:
Another Media story to wet down the dry throats of gullible Nigerians for the new week



grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin



Dear Buhari thank you for recovering our Monies from Corrupt leaders grin grin But we need power, good roads, lovely railways etc
It's a Monday ritual.
Early week feeding for Zombies.

Just look at the article itself, Just the regular nonsense written for zombies.
Politics › Re: TA Orji Remains One Of The Worst Governors Nigeria Ever Produced – Tony Ukasanya by plaetton: 3:21pm On Oct 03, 2016
fulaniHERDSman:
Igbos will appreciate Buhari only when he picks up this unrivalled, evil and conscienceless crook and seize all his things to the last penny and then jail him for eternity.
I actually thought that the war against corruption was going to start with the former governors of Abia State.
Politics › Re: We’ve Injected $2.4bn Into The Economy To Drag Nigeria Out Of Recession — Buhari by plaetton: 3:08pm On Oct 03, 2016
Sibrah:
Stop imagining falsehood brother. Did he say injection of $2.4b is suppose to end recession?
I beg your pardon ?

Tell us what the falsehood is, and of course, correct me with the truth.
Politics › Re: We’ve Injected $2.4bn Into The Economy To Drag Nigeria Out Of Recession — Buhari by plaetton: 2:54pm On Oct 03, 2016
989900:
That's 'relatively' nothing.
These guys are so funny.
He says that they have injected $2.4b into the economy this year, but failed to mention when this year.

And he ignorantly thinks injecting $2.4b in capita projects will get the economy out recession ?

By the way, who says Nigeria is in a recession ? huh
Recession is cyclical.
What we are entering is a period of depression, marked by Zero net inflows of investments, very few job creating tendencies, great pessimism, fear and structural dislocations at every level.

And when I tell that TSA implementation is the culprit, you will tell me that TSA is in the Constitution.

Well, economic realities don't give a rat's bottom about the Constitution.
Politics › Re: We’ve Injected $2.4bn Into The Economy To Drag Nigeria Out Of Recession — Buhari by plaetton: 2:47pm On Oct 03, 2016
Omoakinsuyi:
TSA is killing the economy....
They just don't get it.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 1:01am On Oct 03, 2016
sinequanon:
So, it's autocomplete's fault! LOL!!!

Autocomplete created the word "bosson", LOL!!!

Have you ever asked yourself why you struggle to be truthful. It is glaringly obvious that you are unfamiliar with the topic of the Higgs Boson.
I used it as an example to show that the scientists that you worship and parrot are as crooked as most people, especially when large sums of money are at stake.

Science is just another religion to you. Scientists are your gods.

We have IN THIS THREAD an example of you REFUTING a link which states categorically that the status of the existence of the Higgs Boson is NOT "confirmed".

You continue to pretend that it is confirmed.

Your credibility is shot to pieces!

You are an example of why it is pointless believing the hype of scientists, media, and religious disciples of science, like you.
Lol.

You shown yourself to be a science denier and anti- science nut.

Let's go back the link.

Here is an excerpt :






A Higgs boson of mass ≈125 GeV has been tentatively confirmed by CERN on 14 March 2013,[1][2][3] although it is unclear as yet which model the particle best supports or whether multiple Higgs bosons exist.[2
And ;

The question of the Higgs field's existence has been the last unverified part of the Standard Model of particle physics and, according to some, "the central problem in particle physics".[8][9]

The presence of this field, now believed to be confirmed, explains why some fundamental particles have mass when, based on the symmetries controlling their interactions, they should be massless. The existence of the Higgs field would also resolve several other long-standing puzzles, such as the reason for the weak force's extremely short range.
And of course this :


https://home.cern/about/updates/2015/09/atlas-and-cms-experiments-shed-light-higgs-properties

Three years after the announcement of the discovery of a new particle, the so-called Higgs boson, the ATLAS and CMS Collaborations present for the first time combined measurements of many of its properties, at the third annual Large Hadron Collider Physics Conference (LHCP 2015). By combining their analyses of the data collected in 2011 and 2012, ATLAS and CMS draw the sharpest picture yet of this novel boson. The new results provide in particular the best precision on its production and decay and on how it interacts with other particles.
And finally,

.
All of the measured properties are in agreement with the predictions of the Standard Model and will become the reference for new analyses in the coming months, enabling the search for new physics phenomena. This follows the best measurement of the mass of the Higgs boson, published in May 2015 (link is external) after a combined analysis by the two collaborations.
Now, run along and be quite.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 11:11pm On Oct 02, 2016
sinequanon:
You are just a cheerleader, who doesn't really understand science.

If you have not read any articles by Dawkins, then you are parroting him, second or third hand, without realizing it. That is what happens when the source of your information is populist media.

I have an aversion to hypocrisy, and, unlike you, I don't care whether it comes from religion or "science".

You called the Higgs Boson the "highs bosson" TWICE, in two separate posts, and after EyeHateGod called it the "highs bosom". He was probably being facetious, but still parroted him! LOL!!!



You are clearly clueless about the subject that you are pontificating about.



What a laugh! "Catching a boson using conventional tools" is MEANINGLESS DRIVEL, that may fool some people.

You clearly have no notion what you are talking about. A statistical signature is what determines the existence of a boson. And since you don't understand that, you have no concept of what statistical outcomes, sigma levels and confirmation means.

The article went over your head.

Go and educate yourself. The article states that all the signatures mentioned are below the level required for scientific confirmation of the existence of the Higgs Boson.
I guess you have never used an Android keypad that tries to fill in words as you type them ? huh

Let me repeat, if you're not smart enough to recognize a typo error when you see it, then I am way way out your league.

You , my friend, actually have a personality issue.
Same today as you were last year or so.

You're trying to force yourself to be smart .
It takes more than big words, or asking people ' do you know this and do you know that' to be smart.

I wish you happy maturity
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 10:35pm On Oct 02, 2016
sinequanon:
You are clearly in over your head. You clearly do not understand the science, or even what science is in general.

Just say so, instead of pretending.

You spend your time parroting some very worn phrases, popularized by Dawkins, most of which are of no relevance to the specific point being raised.

You even parroted somebody who earlier called it the "highs bosson" -- then you called it the "higgs bosson"...

Stop this massive pretence, and "we" nonsense. I am not impressed.

If you had any understanding whatsoever of the subject, you will see from the article that the Higgs Boson (one 's') has not been confirmed.

It demonstrates the problem precisely, that people, like you, who have to rely on popular media due to of their lack of understanding of the fundamentals, are easily fooled by headline spin.

Yes, imo, religion is a blight upon Nigeria, but making that the starting point and motivation behind your argument is being political and shortsighted. You are promoting a kind of blindness that you think is justified on political grounds.
Lol.
If can't spot a typo error when you see one, then clearly you are way out my league, way way below.

I have no idea how Dawkins has come into this discussion. For the records, I repeat that I have never read a book or article written by Dawkins.

Truths and facts need no embellishments. They are the same no matter who speaks it.

And did you say " the popular media" ?
I assume that you get your facts from " the unpopular media " , with their own version of science ?

I have, in this case, and like past previous encounters with you, given you wide latitudes to actually come out and make your case, whatever it is.
And just like in the past you're hiding behind big words and phrases to camouflage your,.. your funny and contradictory aversion for science and the scientific method.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 10:00pm On Oct 02, 2016
sinequanon:
You are wrong. The Higgs Boson is not proven.

Read the article (and ignore plaetton, who is a load of pretence).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_boson

Spin: Spin-0 tentatively confirmed.

Parity: Even parity tentatively confirmed.

Decay: observed; but not "yet" confirmed.

Couplings to mass: "strongly evidenced" ("At 95% confidence level cV is within 15% of the standard model value cV=1"wink.

Higher energy results remain "consistent".

So, when we look at the small print for the "confirmation" of the "Higgs Boson", we see wishy-washy double speak. Confirmation in particle physics is supposed to have a very precise definition -- statistical confidence to a level of what is known as 5 sigma, or above. Instead, we have evasive claims of "tentative confirmation", and "strongly evidence", "not yet confirmed", which are just euphemisms for unconfirmed. It's a bit like saying that a woman is "a bit pregnant".

3 years after announcing the confirmation, it is NOT confirmed.
I think that perhaps you , I and the rest of the world's scientific community have an English comprehension scale that are different.

Like many things in the universe, the highs bosson might exist in such a rare state that we might not be able catch it using convention tools of physics. In such a case, we look for its footprints, its primary or secondary emanations.
In similar manner, many planets are discovered in our solar system and outside our solar system by measuring gravitational perturbations of such planets on distant lights. From the gravitational perturbations , we are able to calculate the mass, the orbital spin and orbital periods of such planets long before a visual confirmation.
That's the way of the system.

We have seen enough evidence for the confirmation of the higgs bosson. There is no holy war to compel anyone to believe or swear by its existence.
When we discover more in the future, we upgrade or knowledge.
Meanwhile, you are very very free to offer an alternative theory or refute what has been found or known.
This is the way of science.

In what other way can we make you understand the scientific system ?
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 9:22pm On Oct 02, 2016
SirWere:
What do you mean??

The higgs boson particle was proven BEFORE they were awarded the nobel.

They only gave them because they had the foresight (and genius) to predict 40 YEARS before!!

So............


I feel like I'm missing something here.
Lol.
So you noticed too that something is missing here ? grin
Politics › Re: I Can’t Fight Buhari In Public –Tunde Bakare by plaetton: 9:01pm On Oct 02, 2016
lastpage:
He did not "FIGHT JONATHAN IN PUBLIC"...........
He led a "movement of Nigerians" that protested against the fuel price increase during that period.

SITUATION in "that period" (Jonathan) ..... and in "this period" (Buhari) are glaringly not the same, as l have explained in details in one of my previous post!

As long as most of you these Easterners/Jonathan apologist are still stuck in the mindset of "anyone against Jonathan is our enemy", YOU CANT REASON OBJECTIVELY!
Your emotions are beclouding your reasoning faculty, if any.





Lastpage!
Bullshyte.

So he led a movement against GEJ's proposed fuel price increase, did he ?
I didn't see him lead a movement against Buhari's fuel price increase.
Hhhmm! I wonder why?
Could it be because he is a shameless hypocrite ?

For your information, I fully supported GEJ's proposed fuel price increase, because it made good economic sense. I also supported Buhari's fuel price increase, because, it also makes good economic sense. I only scoffed at their dishonesty in trying to sell it using laughable and dishonest reasons.

For your information as well, I publicly criticized GEJ's government many times on Nairaland when it was necessary to do so, for the very same reasons and even more, that I criticize this particular joke of a government.
At least I am consistent.

Now, if you think it's only the southeasterners who are unhappy at the pitiful state of affairs in Nigeria at every level, then I guess it must only the southeasterners that are feeling the economic crunch of what is turning out to be the most incompetent government in the history the modern world.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 6:53pm On Oct 02, 2016
mank1234:
Please don't give up. Come let's finish it off.
Attack the comment and leave the person.
Fact: science is full of theories that were earlier held in high esteem in the scientific community but later repudiated. By inference, the very tool of science, science is not an end in itself. It keeps evolving and cannot be trusted to answer all my questions.
You show that you , in this 21st century, are still clueless about what science is.

I find it funny how mad you guys are because you neither understand what science is or fail to grasp simple scientific ideas and norms. And then you lash out at atheists for your lack of understanding.
In a way, I only pity and don't blame most of you guys. You're a product of a bad system,. a system that doesn't encourage rational thinking. With clowns like Adeboye, Oyedepo , Mbaka etc titillating you simpletons with magic, abracadabra and smoked and mirrors, your minds have been hardwired to be aversive to scientific rationalism.

Like you said, science is not an end, but a PROCESS of discovery.
That old ideas can be discarded for new discoveries is what makes science the truly preeminent SYSTEM , the preeminent arbiter of reality.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 6:00pm On Oct 02, 2016
DoctorAlien:
I spotted about two or more logical fallacies in this post:

1. Argumentum ad hominem

2. Appeal to ridicule (Horse Laugh).
Give yourself a standing ovation .
cheesy
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 5:59pm On Oct 02, 2016
mank1234:
I have re

Bible is a collection of different books written over a long period. The consistency is unrivaled. You can't say same of your science textbook.
The quote of the century.

How does a rational person argue with that huh
I give up. sad
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 5:21pm On Oct 02, 2016
DoctorAlien:
I've read many books on evolution, but I've not understood how a bacteria can change into a worm. Please explain to me.
Lol.

I doubt that you did.
Sorry, that' nobody's fault but your own shortcomings.
In fact, your statements alone show that it's beyond your grasp, because you're still thinking in magical terms like , Jesus turning water into wine and 5 fishes and loaves multiplying to feed thousands. This is your problem.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Wrong Way To Be An Atheist by plaetton: 5:16pm On Oct 02, 2016
mank1234:
Agumentun ad hominem.
Towing your line, since you happened to finish biology class conclusively, please answer my question.
Again, please suggest one biology textbook for me which you believe can answer my question and I'll gladly read.
I have no obligations to do so.
You can start with Google, and then find a public library. This is the information age.

Atheists on the other hand, read the Bible thoroughly, in fact , much more thoroughly than Christians, before we come here to repudiate stone age myths.

Infact, reading the Bible thoroughly is the gateway to agnosticism and atheism.

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