Education › Re: Did You Know That? by plaetton: 7:14pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Preaching The Gospel Or Preaching MMM by plaetton: 6:46pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: How can you even be involved in MMM as a Christian? Does fraudulent behaviour no longer count as sin? What are you talking about, my friend ?  Same ponzi scam, same scammers, same format, same type of deadbrain victims.  It only logical that consumers of " name it and claim it " evangelical scams would also be willing victims for any manner of Ponzi schemes. I mean, if you believe the invisible skydaddy gives you riches ( unmerited favor  they call it) for nothing, then any ponzi scheme that promises to grow money for you out of nothing would also qualify as unmerited favor. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by plaetton: 6:16pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Problems with Evolutionary Theory by plaetton: 5:18pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Very very funny indeed.
I didn't expect any serious person to even look at this thread because I kinda guessed what it would contain.
It's funny because the thread is like a feel-good thread for those whose religious beliefs are threatened by the Theory of Evolution. |
Culture › Re: Strange Scenes From Coronation Of Oba In Benin Kingdom. by plaetton: 4:19pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Why does the op call these pictures strange ?  What is so strange about them ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: (BIBLE MYSTERY) Who Wrote The Book Of Job? by plaetton: 3:49pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
By analyzing the language and writing styles, scholars have also concluded that the book of Job was written by more than one author and in different eras. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump Invites Obama's Brother To Be His Guest At Presidential Debate In U by plaetton: 3:41pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Typical African half brother. What else are step brothers for, if not for sabotage and subterfuge ?  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump And The Hypocrisy And Shallowness Of Evangelical Christianity. by plaetton(op): 3:33pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
GooseBaba: Smh.... I stated your condition. Your brain is rigged. Jackpot!!! Ding! Ding! Ding!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk Pantheism , Shall We ? by plaetton: 3:29pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: The universe has not existed forever , and time itself had a beginning in the Big Bang , about 15 billion years ago . Since, as you and Deepsight are fond of using the phrase " beyond time and space" , it's logical to say that the universe itself is enclosed within infinite time and space. Therefore, The Big Bang was an inflection point, an important or perhaps insignificant inflection point in the overall order of infinite space and time. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Spirituality: Who E Don EPP? by plaetton(op): 3:23pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
sonofluc1fer:
. I'm good. Sorting out my offline life. Hope you're good. Good to know. As long as you are on standby for scriptural backup when the need arises.  Take care. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Spirituality: Who E Don EPP? by plaetton(op): 3:10pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
sonofluc1fer: Babe.  You have been AWOL for a while now. I see now that it takes the appearance of Ishilove to smoke you out of hibernation. Hhhmm !  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk Pantheism , Shall We ? by plaetton: 3:03pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk Pantheism , Shall We ? by plaetton: 2:55pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Please, no insults or dodging.
You know that a moving ball must have had an outside force that acted upon it because it is in your reality- You know this from observing forces within your reality.
So, you haven't answered the question- how do you know something that is outside your reality? I will volunteer to answer that question for him. By sheer imagination. And I must add, there is nothing wrong with having an imagination, as long as we are honest enough to make the distinctions clear enough between what is imagined and what is real. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk Pantheism , Shall We ? by plaetton: 2:51pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
DeepSight: Its just as obvious that a moving ball must have been acted upon by a force or trigger outside of itself.
It's that simple, you dodo. No sir. We are not in kindergarten here. I find it surprising that one who speaks so much about infinity cannot himself contemplate the idea that very well could have no beginning of time and space. And yes, I know we see the big ba.ng as the beginning. But, the big ban.g was more likely an important inflection point, rather than the beginning of existence. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk Pantheism , Shall We ? by plaetton: 12:43pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
DeepSight: BTW why did you run away the other day when you had the hilarious statement that there is no dispute concerning evolution? did you go to za oza room? Greetings your Wordiness,  Well, I waited for someone to come along and tell me what those disputes were . No one came along. So, I don't know where you got the idea that I ran away to za oza room. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump And The Hypocrisy And Shallowness Of Evangelical Christianity. by plaetton(op): 2:28am On Oct 19, 2016 |
DanielPop: Donald Trump is a poster boy of for all the negative and destructive attributes of the human psyche.
Good. Exactly what the MSM wants you to believe. Brainwashed!
Meanwhile, here they are, MOGs praying for Donald. Ask yourself why the MOG's are not deceived!  Lol. What's the difference between a Ponzi scheme con businessman like Donald Trump and evangelical snake oil salesmen like evangelical MOGs ? The answer is quite simple.  Conmen and hypocrites of the same racket decieve together. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump And The Hypocrisy And Shallowness Of Evangelical Christianity. by plaetton(op): 10:44pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
gaelllic: I must tell you sincerely that your fixation upon this woman is very disturbing.
I mean it. This is one for the record books, even among this crowd. I guess you don't know the difference between FACTS and innuendos. Present us with Hilary Clinton's crimes, bearing in mind the definition of crime. While you are at it, look up the dictionary meaning of innuendo. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump And The Hypocrisy And Shallowness Of Evangelical Christianity. by plaetton(op): 10:38pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
gaelllic: And I must tell you sincerely that your fixation upon this woman is very disturbing. Fixation ? Elections are about a choice, in this particular case, one choice over another. At least the far majority of Americans are choosing this woman, as you called her, as a much better choice for US president than a mentally unstable Trump, who has the temperament of primary school yard bully. Gosh, even Texas has become a toss up State. That tells you much about whom even lifelong Republicans think is better choice. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump And The Hypocrisy And Shallowness Of Evangelical Christianity. by plaetton(op): 8:57pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
gaelllic: Hillary
1. was involved in firing of White House Travel Office and giving their job (worth $31M) to private 'friends'. Was under 5 investigations. Made "factually false statements" in sworn testimony. Forced to reverse action.
2. On the death of Vince Foster (longtime Clinton associate) under suspicious circumstances, an investigation was launched. Before authorities arrived, the Clintons had illegally removed boxes of documents (Whitewater, Travelgate rtc.)
3. Was nepotically put in charge of healthcare reform by her husband. Shrouded proceedings in such secrecy that a federal judge threatened the administration with contempt. Hospitals, physicians, insurance outfits all rebelled. The reform was a disaster. Was fined, along with others $450 000 for dishonesty.
4. founded Whitewater Development with Jim and Susan Mcdougal. Whitewater was later investigated for fraud, Hillary becoming first First Lady to be subpoenaed by a Grand Jury. Billing documents involved went 'missing', later turning up in the Clinton residence after Hillary's acquittal. Susan Mcdougal refused to testify against the Clintons, was convicted (along with others) but later pardoned by President Clinton.
5. traded cattle futures worth $5000 and received $490 000 returns. Insisted the trades were made by her. Investigations proved trades were made by James Blair of the firm Refco. This was perceived to be inducement for influencing her husband. Refco later paid the largest fines in the exchange's history.
6. founded with her husband the Clinton Legal Defense Fund (for help with their never-ending legal bills). Fund was investigated for receiving funds from Chinese interests and government agents against US law.
7. singled out opponents for tax audits, senior IRS officials admitted. Among such 'opponents' were Bill's female accusers.
8. was a beneficiary of Presidential pardons. Bill pardoned 450 people for offences ranging from cocaine trafficking to terrorism. Several pardons were investigated for ties to Hillary's Senate bid. Google 'Marc Rich' or 'New Square Four'. Hillary's brother, Hugh Rodham charged high fees for obtaining Presidential pardons. Google Carlos Vignali.
9. had her Senate campaign fundraiser financed by Peter Paul, a convicted cocaine trafficker. Hillary, in violation requested in writing an additional $150 000 in untraceable securities from Paul. Hillary was fine $50 000 for "pirposely underreporting" the event's cost - the largest such fine in history.
10. had an unimpressive Senate career. Only 3 bills in 7 years, including one naming a post office.
11. was appointed Secretary of State. In 2014 the State Department spokesperson was asked to name one tangible achievement of Hillary's. She could not.
I could continue, but, frankly, am tired. This is the problems with evangelical Christians and their sheer dishonesty and I am sorry to say , stuupidity. Without dates and links, everything above is just innuendos. And I warned you about insulting us here with innuendos. You still haven't shown even one crime attributed to Hilary Clinton. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump And The Hypocrisy And Shallowness Of Evangelical Christianity. by plaetton(op): 7:55pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
GooseBaba: And your point is......?
Ohhh I see, you've been drinking 3 days old menstruation again.... Disgusting bastard..  Abeg, respect yourself and leave that wacko be. It's an embarrassment to engage with such lowlife. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump And The Hypocrisy And Shallowness Of Evangelical Christianity. by plaetton(op): 7:54pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
GooseBaba: Ramblings from one who drinks women's menstruation.. Ayama!! Tufia..! Lol. Tell me one thing I said about Trump supporters that this wacko has not demontrated ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk Pantheism , Shall We ? by plaetton: 7:51pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: What about Multiverses - infinite number of universes ? How do you incorporate your pantheistic beliefs with the concept ? Will you see the totality of the universes as one god or as different gods ? Easy. It's either one electron rules each universe, or one electron rules the entire gamut of multiverses. I see no problems with either being true. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump And The Hypocrisy And Shallowness Of Evangelical Christianity. by plaetton(op): 7:47pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
gaelllic: Behold.
The all-new metrosexual male.
Atheist, Feminist, Pacifist, Activist, Statist, Homosexualist, Environmentalist, Socialist, Communist, Masochist, Somnambulist.
Skinny trousers, ill-fitting facial hair, bathroom 'selfies'.
Social media Leonidas.
You should see the female of the species. Another assemblage of disjointed babbles. And he deludes himself that he has just made any sense.  Another proof that Trump supporters are people, dregs on the fringes of society, who compulsively need to VALIDATE their existence, the usefulness of their lives by the things they hate. Look at the long list of things you HATE just to justify your miserable existence.  .  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk Pantheism , Shall We ? by plaetton: 7:40pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
DeepSight: Its interesting but escapist. Elements of it here and there are true: regardless: the Creative Factor of our Reality transcends this reality. It is flawed in that regard. There is no creative factor in reality. Reality is a long series of cosmic accidents, a long endless series of cosmic lotteries. That's why it took 4.7 billion years Of SIMULTANEOUS and dynamic cosmic lotteries to evolve this current reality to where it is. That's why we live our short lives and disappear back to nothingness , as just constituent particles in the ever dynamic cosmic cycle. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk Pantheism , Shall We ? by plaetton: 7:31pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
JackBizzle: Here are two defintions of pantheism.........focus on number 2!
pantheism ˈpanθiːɪz(ə)m/Submit noun 1. a doctrine which identifies God with the universe, or regards the universe as a manifestation of God. 2. the worship or tolerance of many gods. Don't forget that God is just a generic name for a an abstract concept. There is nothing in the universe called god. Therefore, when a pantheist says " god " , he is only making reference to a generic concept, for the purpose of discussion. Our universe is definitely a manifestation of matter. All matter are made of electrons. All electrons behave in the same way no matter where they are. Therefore an electron is the universe. One electron is as good as another, therefore one electron rules the universe. Therefore one electron is the universe , and the universe is one electron. In other words, the electron is in the universe, and universe is in the electron. Similarly, god is in the Universe, and the universe is in God. This is the summary of the pantheistic worldview. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk Pantheism , Shall We ? by plaetton: 7:20pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
DeepSight: Where is Plaetton. He is Pantheist too. Come here Sire. There isn't much to add to what I am reading from Sarrasin and immortal. I would only add that the scientific idea of one singular electron pulsating throughout the universe in different vibrational frequencies gels very well with my pantheistic worldview. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Let's Talk Pantheism , Shall We ? by plaetton: 7:14pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
Sarassin: But of course. I will give it a stab with the proviso that I make no representations to speak for all Pantheists, here are my thoughts;
The celebrated Poet John Donne in his acclaimed poem, No man is an island, wrote :
“ Every man is a part of the continent, a part of the main………..any man’s death diminishes me because I am involved in mankind….”
The Pre-Socratic Greek Philosopher Heraclitus taught:
“moreover we step into the river and out of the river as different beings” and then he went on to say “Gods are mortal, humans immortal, living their death, dying their life.”
These two different views by fabulous doyens of their times sums up for me the Pantheistic world view, one represents the inter-connectivity and inter-dependence of things in a closed system,the "Butterfly effect," if you will. The other view quite simply postulates that everything changes, nature itself is change flowing ever onwards, and even the nature of the flow changes. These for me represent the twin-fold basic principles of Pantheism.
It is not the case that Pantheists deify the physical structures of the cosmos i.e, the Galaxies, planets and their satellites, No. Think of the Pantheist concept of Divinity more as a moving spirit or awareness that permeates the universe, is sentient, and represents the sum total of all that has been before, all that is, and all that will be. Always seeking nothing but the highest good of its integral parts. Not unlike the Christian God, but without subjective personality or to borrow your phrase without the anthropomorphism and without the earth-bound limitations of a religious deity. And then imagine that absolutely anyone can form a part of this awareness.
In Christianity as well as the other great religions of the world, the concept of the Universal supreme deity as opposed to say a Global monotheistic deity, is an afterthought due to the inability of the ancients to fully grasp the full extent of the magnitude of the universe in much the same way today we see limitations with concepts such as for instance multiple universes. Excellent. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump And The Hypocrisy And Shallowness Of Evangelical Christianity. by plaetton(op): 7:08pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
benjibabs: If you are comfortable with both of Obama's comments, then no further comments from me.
As I mentioned earlier if you wanted the endless list of Clinton's crimes, check google. There is no point in wasting time by reproducing it here since you have internet access. This is quite silly. I didn't bother to listen to Obama's 2008 campaign speech. You made statement about Hilary Clinton's alleged list of crimes. I am simply asking you to list them here. You are referring me to Google?  Are you serious ? So, You were simply ' running on empty' when you wrote that she has a long list of crimes?  Pathetic. You are sounding much like Trump. A whole lot of soundbytes, but no substantive FACTS. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump And The Hypocrisy And Shallowness Of Evangelical Christianity. by plaetton(op): 6:40pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
peterphd: Hahahaha... If sexual assault these days is not a case of feminists and useless liberals witch hunting men.. Bingo!!  There you are. You are definitely way out of my league, infact, way out of my moral universe. My case is proven again, and again. Need I say more ? What more could I possibly say ?  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump And The Hypocrisy And Shallowness Of Evangelical Christianity. by plaetton(op): 6:21pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
oyetpel: She wasn't afraid, you ediot Lol. One thing I have noticed about empty heads: They are always always too eager to stand out like a sore thumb. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump And The Hypocrisy And Shallowness Of Evangelical Christianity. by plaetton(op): 6:19pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
oyetpel: Wailer sighted. We should do a questionnaire here. I think pdo people and Jonathanians are rooting Clinton. Ediot, if pdp had won Jonathan is serving a 2nd term in office, would Dasuki have been caught? Would these stinking corrupt Judges have been arrested? Trump will win and Hilary will go to jail. slowpoke, I am certainly not a defender of Dasuki nor corruption, but if put through the same microscopic lenses, wouldn't APC bigwigs be rotting in the same jail as Dasuki ?  Hypocrisy is what makes my stomach turn. Which of these judges have charged to court for a crime? You and Donald Trump obviously do not understand the essence of democracy. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Donald Trump And The Hypocrisy And Shallowness Of Evangelical Christianity. by plaetton(op): 5:46pm On Oct 18, 2016 |
peterphd: He's been sued 3500 times huh? How many times did he Win the cases? Guess you liberals wouldn't be able to identify sexual assault even if you were involved.. Perpetual victims Your compulsive use of the word " liberals" betrays the fact that you are obsessed with mere labels than concrete issues. |