Christianity Etc › Re: Every Nigerian Atheist Should Be Outspoken by plaetton: 10:30pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
4everGod: The earth with all its mass and weight isnt falling through space but revolving and rotating but not falling.  .  .  Oh gosh!!! Not again.  I marvel , I am flabbergasted, I am petrified at the level of sheer ignorance on display here, especially the audacity to call another person ignorant. The Earth isn't falling because there is NO PLACE TO FALL. Daahhhh !! There is no Up and Down in space. Up and down is function of gravity. There is no gravitational pull in the vacuum of space. Only celestial bodies exert gravitational pulls that give the appearance of ups and downs. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Nigerian Atheist Should Be Outspoken by plaetton: 10:21pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
exhibition: The Bible is an infallible book that has stood the test of time.
How come you believe a dictionary compliled by men through God's knowledge to define mystery for you.
But you failed to believe the Bible inspired by God?
What is the logic in this? I say a non sequitur to your statement. it simply does not follow. It simply does not follow that I think the Bible is a book of myths? You have problem accepting that ? Ok. Let me ask you an honest question, and please answer simply and honestly. Do you believe in ancient Greek gods and their interactions with men ? Do you believe tales were factual or mythical ? Kindly explain your answer. Thank you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Man Merely A Freakish Odd Ape? by plaetton: 9:58pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
UyiIredia: No man is not evolving. Man will always be man. Change is the only CONSTANT in the universe. Everything evolves and is evolving. Gosh  |
Christianity Etc › Re: US School Oks Educating With Satan by plaetton(op): 9:53pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
armadeo: L.p. are you a Satanist? Read the article. |
Christianity Etc › Re: US School Oks Educating With Satan by plaetton(op): 9:53pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
hahn: Did you read the article? Lol. I was just about to ask him same. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Nigerian Atheist Should Be Outspoken by plaetton: 9:46pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
DeepSight: Double the pity. You don't get it, do you ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Nigerian Atheist Should Be Outspoken by plaetton: 9:44pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
DeepSight: What a pity.
For a well educated man, at that.
Enjoy. Excellent rebuttal. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Nigerian Atheist Should Be Outspoken by plaetton: 9:39pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
exhibition: Please kindly go through this and give answers if you can
This describes the mysterious nature of God.
Job 38
1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?
3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me. note
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding. note
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; note note
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
8 Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb?
9 When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it,
10 And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors, note
11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?note
12 Hast thou commanded the morning since thy days; andcaused the dayspring to know his place;
13 That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? note
14 It is turned as clay to the seal; and they stand as a garment.
15 And from the wicked their light is withholden, and the high arm shall be broken.
16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?
17 Have the gates of death been opened unto thee? or hast thou seen the doors of the shadow of death?
18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.
19 Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof,
20 That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the pathsto the house thereof? note
21 Knowest thou it, because thou wast then born? or becausethe number of thy days is great?
22 Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail,
23 Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?
24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?
25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder;
26 To cause it to rain on the earth, where no man is; on the wilderness, wherein there is no man;
27 To satisfy the desolate and waste ground; and to cause the bud of the tender herb to spring forth?
28 Hath the rain a father? or who hath begotten the drops of dew?
29 Out of whose womb came the ice? and the hoary frost of heaven, who hath gendered it?
30 The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen. note
31 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? note note
32 Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? note note
33 Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? canst thou set the dominion thereof in the earth?
34 Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee?
35 Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go, and say unto thee, Here we are? note
36 Who hath put wisdom in the inward parts? or who hath given understanding to the heart?
37 Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven, note
38 When the dust groweth into hardness, and the clods cleave fast together? note
39 Wilt thou hunt the prey for the lion? or fill the appetite of the young lions, note
40 When they couch in theirdens, and abide in the covert to lie in wait?
41 Who provideth for the raven his food? when his young ones cry unto God, they wander for lack of meat. Hilarious. Big laugh. I could equally quote chapters from my marvel comic book collection where Odin, the immortal father of THOR, sitting on his celestial throne, made similar claims. What does it prove ?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Nigerian Atheist Should Be Outspoken by plaetton: 9:33pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
DeepSight: I really don't know how you brilliant Physics Laureates failed to recognize the said "gravitational bubble" as the "foundations fastened" written therein. I beg your pardon? Don't be disingenuous.  I gave you a lesson in elementary astronomy to show you that there is nothing like gravitational bubble of the earth being the same thing as " foundations fastened" , because there is nothing unique about the earth having a gravity. The Earth's gravity is just a natural pull that is commensurate to it's mass and rotation. If I were to hurl you into space( like I rightfully should  ), you would have your own gravitational pull commensurate with your lekpa size. There would be no godidit fastening you to any foundation. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Nigerian Atheist Should Be Outspoken by plaetton: 9:13pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
exhibition: Humans only prove what God has established. that in itself points to the fact that God exists. Yeah. Brilliant deduction. Don't you see nicely convenient it is? Humans mentally labouring to prove what The Conveniently Invisible mystery established. Mystery CREATED the Universe. Why can't we just agree on that. I will accept if the Oxford dictionary decides that "God" is a synonym for " Mystery". |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Nigerian Atheist Should Be Outspoken by plaetton: 9:07pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
DeepSight: ^^^ Plaetton Einstein and Seun Einstein - I really don't know how you brilliant Physics Laureates failed to recognize the said "gravitational bubble" as the "foundations fastened" written therein.
It's such a pity party to see one of you also alluding to the "opinion" of one of Job's friends in order to exculpate himself from the implications of the knowledge stated therein.
As for Seun, his motivations are understandable. Making kindergarten statements by the dozen as he has been doing of late is obviously simply intended to keep traffic going on his forum in these hard times right? But as for you Plaetton, you have never needed an excuse have you. . . . ? Lol. Do you need a lesson in beginners astronomy? All bodies , all particles of matter exert a gravitational pull. It's the gravitational pushes and pulls that are largely responsible for angular momentum and consequently, rotation. Even the tiniest objects in space have a gravitational force proportional to their Mass. So, my friend, gravity is not unique to the Earth, and was definitely not put there by " thegodidit", the TOOTHFAIRY or the invisible pink UNICORN.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: I Am A Sun Worshipper And An Atheist: Is There A Contradiction? by plaetton(op): 8:53pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
urheme: there is a power that moves, Holy spirit, i need this power to touch this one be cos, he is my friend.
God want to use you, you cannot run away for long.
Let its powers Locate you. Lol. This power that moves, this holy spirit, Who E Don EPP ? Which black man, which African nation E Don EPP ?  And, am I not in the better position to know what I need? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Nigerian Atheist Should Be Outspoken by plaetton: 8:30pm On Sep 28, 2016*. Modified: 8:48pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
hahn: What is the earth's foundation then? None. The Earth floats in space just like every other celestial objects. We are only thinking of foundations because it's difficult for us to THINK outside of the gravitational bubble( so to speak) that we are encased in. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Every Nigerian Atheist Should Be Outspoken by plaetton: 7:46pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
UyiIredia: Doesn't the earth rest on a molten core that could be said to be its foundation. The molten core is part of the earth, not its foundation.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: US School Oks Educating With Satan by plaetton(op): 3:13pm On Sep 28, 2016*. Modified: 4:54pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
Click yes if you think it's time Nigerian schools ought to start Educating with Satan, at least one tiny bit at a time. I mean, we have been educating with god , his sons and prophets for quite a while now, and who promote hate , bigotry, threats of eternal cruelty, jihads, etc. With emphasis on " science and rational thinking, benevolence and empathy " , Isn't it about time we tried something new ?  |
Christianity Etc › US School Oks Educating With Satan by plaetton(op): 2:55pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
https://www.rt.com/usa/360910-satan-club-oregon-school/afterschoolsatan.com School clubs are a way to meet friends while enjoying a hobby – but if your kid hates sports and couldn’t care less about chess, they can join the ‘After School Satan Club.’ An Oregon school has approved the group which aims to counter a Christian club. After campaigning under the slogan ‘Educatin’ with Satan,’ the Portland chapter of the national organization of The Satanic Temple received the go-ahead to start the ‘After School Satan Club’ at Sacramento Elementary School.
One of the heads of the chapter, Finn Rezz, told The Oregonian that the group has been approved to begin on October 19, and will focus on “science and rational thinking.” It will be held once a month on Wednesdays, at the same time as the Good News Club – a Christian group run by the Child Evangelism Fellowship, which has around 78,000 chapters worldwide.
Rezz said in August that the Satan club will promote “benevolence and empathy for everybody,” which he said is in direct contrast to the Good News Club, which teaches “hellfire.”
The Satanic Temple has been specifically targeting schools that have a Good News Club. Among other schools, the group wrote to the Los Angeles Unified School District, in a letter that was published by The Washington Post.
Allow ‘After-School Satan’ programs or face costly lawsuits, school told In the letter, The Satanic Temple says that meetings will typically include a “healthy snack, literature lesson, creative learning activities, science lesson, problem solving, and art project.” It goes on to state that club meetings will be led by “caring Satanists from local chapters in the community near the school.”
John Luck, director of global partnership for the Child Evangelism Fellowship, said that while he agrees that members of The Satanic Temple have a right to meet in schools just like the Good News Club, he believes the program will fade away due to lack of interest.
Despite its name, most members of the Satanic Temple identify as atheists – not devil worshipers. Founded in 2014, the religion is headquartered in Salem, Massachusetts. According to its website, it has 20 chapters across the US, as well as three European chapters in the Netherlands, Italy, and Finland. The largest chapter is located in Detroit, Michigan. |
Business To Business › Re: Need Dollar To Buy At A Very Good Rate by plaetton: 4:56pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
chizby: If can get me dollar at a very good rate we will buy up to 5m dollars and above at 395 to 415 . If u ahv let get our acc managers to deal immediately.
Call 08132682481 for serious deals Funny guy. Dollar is N450 today. 450-415 = N35. N35 x 5m = N175m.  So, what kind of person , correction, retard, would want to lose N175m for a transaction ?  I know suckers are born every minute, but I don't the sucker you're looking has been born yet.  |
Politics › Re: POLITICS OF BETRAYAL: The Unfair Criticism And Treatment Of Asiwaju Bola Tinubu by plaetton: 3:36pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
happney65: omolola15 can you see this..I am waithing patiently for when tinubu would turn that Propagandist newspaper THE NATION on Buhari...I stopped buying it in 2013 cos it was full of lies and deceit..Tinubu would turn he's Media outfit on Buhari.THE NATION,TV CONTINENTIAL,RADIO CONTINENTIAL...etc,And then Buhari would fight back..Its gonna be messy..Ahahahahahahaha..  Yup. The subtle blackmails have already begun. |
Politics › Re: Time For All Omoluabi To Rally Round Tinubu by plaetton: 3:18pm On Sep 27, 2016 |
Thewrath: I have said it severally,when it comes to voting,the south will be shouting "forget the region/tribe and vote for credibility". While there is no problem in that calculation,does the north return the Favour? Does the north see credibility in a southerner?
That poo don't work in Nigeria,the north is only interested in power,and as long as the Yorubas keep giving it to them,we will all keep getting same treatment from the north. In as much as the last administration MAY be accused of negligence,the 2015 general election was an opportunity for the south to pass a message to the north that it can't always be their way,but the west wants a plate of vp..
Tinubu will be cut to size,and nothing will happen!
100℅. The last election , if GEJ had been re-elected, would have solidified what OBJ had successfully started- the demystification of northern power hegemony. But blind ambition and crass opportunism won the day. Now, we have lost all that we gained during the OBJ/ GEJ tenures. |
Politics › Re: POLITICS OF BETRAYAL: The Unfair Criticism And Treatment Of Asiwaju Bola Tinubu by plaetton: 11:58am On Sep 27, 2016 |
Every one is expressing surprise and disappointment at the unravelling of APC, and I marvel at how naive people really are. Daahhhh! Who couldn't have seen it coming? Was Tinubu so blind by ambition that he didn't see it coming? That would mean that he is not as smart as we give him credit for.
History always repeats itself, and those who ignore the lessons of history are condemned to repeat it's mistakes.
No one should have any pity for Tinubu. This is the reward for his crass opportunitism.
For those who are unable to read tea leaves and body language,This is just the beginning of the inevitable implosion of the APC.
I predict that Tinubu will turn his media Piranhas against the regime, and in text book fashion, the reactionary regime, like a wounded tiger, would unleash it's own dogs on the offensive. There will be blood, there will be confusion, there will be anger in the land. Some, however, will enjoy a good laugh while it lasts.
It will be back to the Abacha era atmosphere . With widespread hunger in the land, citizens, just like in the era, lwoul be wearing Buhari badges to identity the loyalty of their stomach infrastructure.
It's deja vu all over again. |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Has A Message For Pres Buhari On His Purported National Assets Sale by plaetton: 3:29am On Sep 27, 2016 |
timeman: LOL! @Plaetton, There is no language more kindergaten than wailers' language, would try figure that out if you are one or not. Your sentiment to have costs reduced by 2trillion & 1 trillion subsequently in that proportion was well intended by current challenges, however, your sentiment is far withdrawn from yet the prevailing reality. The question you should bother ask would be what will befall of the civil servants that would lose their jobs from such an austere measure. To cut costs essentially is to cut down the numbers of parastatals, thus job losses but i'd call for a merger instead. Gej increased the recurrent expenditures of MDAs geometrically to 2trillion in 2015, how possibly would such be slashed to 2trillion as you proffered? Reno in his renewed patrotism should direct his call to the NASS,our national revenue ungenerating conduit pipe which gulps 25% of the budget expenditure. The truth has spoken! Well, yes. The NASS is a part of the APC government. APC controls the NASS, Senate and majority state governments. Buhari is the bona fide leader of the APC. If Buhari cannot convince his party to CHANGE in order to reduce the costs of governance, then his CHANGE mantra is hollow and pretentious. If for example, 1 million jobs are lost in the public sector over the medium or long run, a good , well thought out and targeted job creation policy can create 1 million private sector jobs in a twinkle of an eye. |
Politics › Re: Reno Omokri Has A Message For Pres Buhari On His Purported National Assets Sale by plaetton: 12:06am On Sep 27, 2016 |
timeman: It's so sarcastic how a lackey in an embarrassingly failed government suddenly turned into a freelance self acclaimed advisor. Go wag your wailing tongue to the wailers. Kiss the truth! You would have made a little sense if you had refuted any of his points. And In case you have comprehension issues, let me put it in kindergarten language for you. There is sooooo much waste in government. The people of Nigeria get the least benefits for the amount expended on governance. Is a recession not the best opportunity to rejig the structure and costs of governance at all levels ? That was the CHANGE that all Nigerians were eagerly looking forward to with this regime. Why not trim the cost of governance now ? We can trim at least N2 trillion this year, another N1 trillion next year, and perhaps another N1 trillion 2018 from all levels of governance. Trimming the cost of governance would be a win win solution in every possible way, and also have a longer term positive impact. Selling our national, cash generating assets, and then continue in our very profligate way of governance would be a great crime against the future of Nigeria. |
Politics › Re: "Nigerians Will Celebrate Buhari Next Year" - Dr. Peter Kwembe by plaetton: 7:35pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Sunky200: And the bitter truth is that, the harvest of this government will benefit the people criticizing this administration as much as it benefit its patriots.
well, i believe in good solid foundation the Buhari led-administration is building, and after the pains we all endured, the sacrifices we had to pay, I pray he succeeds.
But someone should please tell the executives of this administration that selling the nation asset's is not an idea that pays off in the long run. I beg you to kindly name or give instances of this good foundation Buhari is laying for future progress . I beg you. |
Politics › Re: "Nigerians Will Celebrate Buhari Next Year" - Dr. Peter Kwembe by plaetton: 7:33pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
ManirBK: Over to you wailers! Another UNICORN MEAT. Did he say ' economic policies '?  What economic policies was he referring to ?  |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Did Black People Come Into The World? Explanation Needed by plaetton: 6:31pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
HCpaul: Through the black hole naw.
We are black and our mentality is dark.
As a result, we think and reason in the dark.
If you witness any transformation of a black person, it is as a result of consequent emulation of the whites mind. Disgraceful |
Foreign Affairs › Re: See This Epic Reply To Donald Trump Tweet! by plaetton: 5:39pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
idupaul: Havre you seen the recent polls ? After tonight's debate trump will be clear by 3 points..Trump all the way I have no doubts The electoral college calculus puts great odds against a Trump win. |
Politics › Re: Opinion: How Buhari's Incompetence Drove The Economy Into Recession by plaetton: 5:37pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Adminisher: Again and again I will say it. Nigeria was DOWN coming UP during OBJ regime. We had economic darkness with Abacha and we were emerging from it. The graph was shooting up.
With Jonathan , Nigeria was UP and he crashed it DOWN rapidly because of lack of ability to control people. It is a very simple failing - lack of ability to control people , systems and processes. He crashed it down in spite of record oil prices and noise made about economic growth. Also oil prices were very high and also crashed rapidly. Things would have bern different if it was a gradual decline then you could plan. However ours was sudden
Please look up the word volatility in economics
Please don't compare OBJ and Buhari in terms of what they inherited. It is the graph TREND of the economy and oil prices not the STATIC VALUES or PRICES I just can't believe what I read here.  What do they teach you guys in school. So, your saying that shortly before OBJ took over in 1999 , Nigeria was on a positive economic trajectory ? What the fxx are you smoking ? Pls can I have some ? That Jonathan left a bustling economy with all economic indices up and trending up is a non disputable FACT. OBJ inherited a house that had fallen. He raised it up. What has Buhari raised , besides sulking because he didn't inherit a high oil price? BTW, didn't Buhari and his APC claim, during their campaign, that they would stabilize Oil prices ?  Wasn't that an acknowledgement that they were fully aware if the challenges that GEJ faced during the last quarter of his administration ? Stop defending these morons. |
Politics › Re: Opinion: How Buhari's Incompetence Drove The Economy Into Recession by plaetton: 5:28pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
[quote author=jpphilips post=49691804][/quote]Omg!! I can't believe what I reading. Simple ignorance is excusable, but complex ignorance is the very worst. You sir, just ran naked in the marketplace.  Let me try to address your incoherent ramblings one by one. 1. So agree that the Nigerian economy of 2015 is way bigger than the Nigerian economy of 1999? Hhhmm! Interesting observation, Mr Einstein. But pray, who Shepherded such fantastic growth from 1999 to 2015 ? The Toothfairy, the invisible pink UNICORN or Leprechauns ?  And secondly, the Nigerian population was not 100m in 1999. Now, to say that OBJ did better because the economy was smaller and the population was smaller is right of kindergarten. In fact, any kindergarten child holding such an opinion would be a candidate for special education classes. I feel a tad ashamed to be addressing such ignorance here. 2. So , In essence , you're saying that OBJ'stenure corruption was the good corruption, and GEJ's corruption was the bad corruption?  Another shocker taken right out of schizophrenics anonymous. I am speechless. 3. More incoherent babble. Primary what are you starting this September ? I give up.  |
Politics › Re: The TSA: How Buhari Nuked The Nigerian Economy by plaetton(op): 5:09pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
vedaxcool: The guy left anti religious fanaticism for tribalism based anti government extremism. Take him serious at your own peril. And is this supposed to be a rebuttal ? Attacking the messenger is a symptom of .....? Pls complete the sentence for me.  |
Foreign Affairs › Re: See This Epic Reply To Donald Trump Tweet! by plaetton: 5:01pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
idupaul: Whether he like it or not Trump is the next US president I am putting money that Trump will suffer the biggest landslide loss in American history. You wanna bet with me ?| |
Politics › Re: The TSA: How Buhari Nuked The Nigerian Economy by plaetton(op): 4:07pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Bump. |
Politics › Re: Opinion: How Buhari's Incompetence Drove The Economy Into Recession by plaetton: 4:04pm On Sep 26, 2016 |
Adminisher: This is what to a bunch of AMATEURS sent the economy into recession. I laugh in kenery language. People are just stupid in this country. With the oil price crash, Nigeria was automatically in recession because of the foreign exchange crunch. Almost all businesses in Nigeria use imported raw materials and spare parts. We also import too much fuel thanks to Jonathan. Also the size of government is large and finally , militants bombed crude oil lines.
The truth is the truth and it sets you free.
If you don't admit that lack of savings and investments by past governments, corruption, over importation and the bombing of pipelines are the causes of recession then you are a coward and you might feel the worst effects of the recession than others because you need to accept the truth of a problem to solve it.
It is very very childish and cowardly to say someone caused recession by doing TSA or fighting cortuption. It simply means we did not have an economy in the First pace Pure trash from someone either born yesterday or just isn't honest enough to call a spade a spade. 1. Oil prices were in the teens during most of OBJ's tenure. He still managed to bring common sense in the Administration of the economy. 2. Corruption was rife long before, during and after OBJ's and GEJ's tenure. 3. Since oil became the mainstay of our economy in the 70s, we have always been import dependent, and dependent on the vageries of the foreign exchange markets. Therefore, foreign exchange scarcity is not a new thing in Nigeria. 4. With $30b in foreign exchange savings, only very dishonest people would claim a lack of savings . After all, how much foreign exchange savings did the PDP government inherit in 1999?  And yet, they were still able to restructure the economy to an extent for economic growth. It only a childish person who doesn't understand economics that would try to exonerate this administration from the economic mess we are in. The body language of the present government, especially Buhari, has had a great negative influence on the investment climate and the free flow of funds into the economy. Many Months ago , I warned that no government launches a war against CAPITAL without suffering deep, prolonged catastrophic collapse. This is exactly what Buhari, through his utterances, body language and actions of his proxies have been, perhaps inadvertently, doing. They just don't seem to get it. |