Johnpaul1099: Nigeria Finally Happened To Me! I was attacked on Saturday night by bandits at Akwanga on my way to Abuja from Jos. One person was shot while another in my car Kidnapped, my driver managed to escape. Several other cars and buses were raided and people were kidnapped from them as well.
Few minutes after the kidnapping the polie came and towed the vehicle while we were still inside the bush, and on getting to the police station the next day they almost claimed the vehicle.
IbeOkehie: Please there's data about economic conditions in Nigeria, this isn't like 25 years ago. Let's quote some of them offhand - * Only about 0.5% of Nigerian workers earn over ₦200K per month, about 95% of bank accounts contain less than ₦500K. Only 7% of Lagosians have running water in their homes...imagine the rest of the country. Life expectancy in Nigeria is about 60 years for men. That last one has been hitting home for me recently because I personally know 5 relatively healthy acquittances who left the USA & UK to live in Nigeria in the last 4 years and died from one emergency health issue or another. One just happened in Lagos LAST WEEK, the man had a heart attack and was stuck in traffic for 6 hours and died inside the car taking him to the hospital. This is someone that many of his friends had repeatedly advised him to come back to the USA. It just makes concrete the reality that choosing between Nigeria & the UK can be a matter of life and death.
I used to be a hospital lab technician. There's something called platelet concentrate that is sometimes used for babies born with some sort of haemoatology problem. When I moved back to Nigeria in 2011, I was at the FMC Hospital in Owerri when a child was born. The doctor on duty determined that the baby needed platelet concentrate. It was not available ANYWHERE. And the baby died. This is a product we used to throw away like water at my USA workplace because it has an 8 hour shelf life. The standing procedure is to have it available at all times just in case of a neonatal crisis. But in Nigeria it was NOWHERE to be found. The doctor cried and I cried too. It's not that babies don't die in the USA or UK, it's that they don't die cheaply. By the way, the son of a serving Federal Minister also died of the same thing some years ago, he had a crisis and needed a blood product that wasn't available in Nigeria. He died in an air ambulance on the way to the UK. Unfortunately I can't put their grief out here in public, but it's a lesson on how precarious life has become that someone so highly placed can't even save themselves. So much for living the good life in Nigeria.
Simply put, your chances of staying alive are higher in the West, period.
Yes there are people earning millions of dollars in Nigeria, I know a few field engineers in the oil & gas industry or top bankers or people working remotely for big IT companies. Yes, they are there but the more important point is that the numbers of such people in Nigeria are so few as to be negligible. They're a statistically insignificant number and their situation is getting more precarious with each passing year.
I know TWO highly placed families in Nigeria where both parents and ADULT CHILDREN and spouses and grandchildren have moved from Nigeria into the town where I live. These are people who live in Banana Island, Ikoyi, Maitama, who work at major oil & gas companies, banks and are in politics. They pulled up EVERYTHING and abandoned Nigeria. I don't live in a major city so imagine the number that are migrating to London, New York or Houston. The last push for one of them was being REPEATEDLY robbed in Abuja after fleeing the same problem in Lagos years before. The woman told me this personally.
These are people who know what is going on in Nigeria and they're leaving! It's not always about MONEY, it's also about quality of life and peace of mind. The elites of Nigeria - the perm secs, federal directors, academic elites, business moguls, top politicians - are a disgrace to the Black Race. I like the way things are going now, many of them are being forced to flee the results of their own idiocy, now in the West they have to rub shoulders with their victims on an equal basis. And everything I see tells me it's going to get worse.
What is the deception? It's telling that ORDINARY LOWER MIDDLE CLASS life depicted on Facebook is viewed as exaggerated luxury by Nigerians. I know many Nigerians who have been working low wage jobs for over 25 years and they all own homes in good neighborhoods and MULTIPLE cars and their kids are university graduates working good jobs. Most if not all of them have scrimped and saved to build homes in Nigeria too. However much they spend in UK it's still enough to send plenty of money to their relatives in Nigeria.
This very topic is what brought me to Nairaland. I was SHOCKED to read people mocking the standard of living in the Anglo countries. I came to the USA with zero money, my plane ticket was bought with borrowed money. I started life working illegally in a restaurant. I know for a fact that even back then, working in that restaurant, I was better off than 99% of people in Nigeria. Summary - if I can live a good life in the West, most people can achieve it too.
I'm in the Nigerian community, I hear of people moving to UK all the time, I see people coming into my community every week, every month both illegally and legally, married with children and single, rich and poor. Even when they're starting from scratch, within a year or two they have fully paid off used car they couldn't dream of having in Nigeria, they live in apartments - maybe with a single roommate - with running water, flush toilet and 24 hour electricity. Breathing fresh air with no dust and generator fumes. They can walk the street with confidence, no police checkpoints, they can drive for hours on the highway with no fear of being waylaid by armed robbers or kidnapped. Those are things that are not guaranteed even in Lekki Phase Zero or VGC.
A Professor, a scion of one of the most prominent families in my ancestral village, was kidnapped right in front of his house in Nigeria. The kidnappers collected their 40million and still killed him.
Good thing too Nigerians going to the West now are learning to do manual work like landscaping, computer wiring/network setups, auto mechanics and mobile car wash, cooking food and selling from their homes, sewing clothes & shoe repair, so having papers is not even as much a problem as before. Honestly I wish I had such skills when I arrived here, life would have been a lot easier. There's a woman who sells Nigerian food that we patronize often, we buy like one week worth of food at a time. When you go to pick up at her home you can see they're VERY BUSY. There's one or two more people that have opened walk up - carry out restaurants. They cater parties too. A Nigerian mobile car washer cleaned my car last week, he came to the office and did it. Who needs Green Card to do that?
Nigeria today is not a good place to live for the VAST MAJORITY and it must be a terrible burden to even be rich in the midst of such misery. Hopefully it will get better but all this fakery about life in Nigeria must stop. Y'all know you're not real.
Quite informative. In other words, east or west, japa is best!
Arobake: What!? Why such intense venom? Kí l'a gbé, kí lẹ jù?
I'm sure the person who asked the question expected each person to answer for himself. How will I know of others' situations or priorities? Why would I be laughing about others'
In my own case, it is laughable. So I laughed - Heartily too! And with my head thrown back.
*A little mutual respect of each other on this platform would be nice, please. Thank you.
Oh I misunderstood your laugh emoji. But I wasn't disrespectful
MT: I hope you know it is one thing to have papers, it is another think to make money. There are many people with papers that are homeless. Having paper is not the end itself, it is a means to the end.
Exactly. And I know someone WITHOUT papers in US who is quite rich
I believe next year things will improve drastically for the economy with Buhari gone and the Naira made flexible again.
I just hope corporate tax can be reduced to 15%. I also hope the oil subsidy is gons for good.
With both measures, the economy could easily grow an average of 8% per annum for a decade. This will create lots of jobs and unemployment and underemployment rates would both plummet.
If commercial bank lending ratea can be in single digits, growth could easily hit 9-10% annually which is transformative.
If you are like most Nigerians, that $10 or 40k will quickly dissipate and you'd be back where you were!
They say those telling them abroad no easy make dey come back to Naija come suffer if what they are saying is true
Nothing like they no wan hear word. OP said you can go anywhere, must it be Germany??There are places you'd be treasured as an immigrant worker, legal or not. And they'd grant you asylum on the flimsiest excuse.
Even in US you get smart phones and tablets that vast majority of Nigerians can't afford, 3 meals a day, snacks, luxury hotel stay, free education, free health care, etc. See below
Arobake: @Abroad people: will you relocate back home if given $40k? � No. Thank you.
Well, that's you. Everybody is not you so don't laugh. There are people have never had $5k in their account since going abroad, plus they have all sorts of problems and bad record. Now you are offering such a person $40k plus a fresh clean start with no record, and you think they won't take it??
Did you actually read through the articles you referenced for an understanding of the conditions involved? Or are you one of those who relies completely on Google's GPU for the processing of thoughts?
What you can be sure of is that the details will never say you'd be deported.
Hotty321: Like where or which country want illegal immigrants?
Many places actually WANT immigrant workers, legal or not. Such places don't look too closes to grant you asylum. Example, even if you tell some stupid lie everbody knows is a lie (like Boko Haram are after you in Nigeria), you'd be granted asylum!
Actually in many places and in most states in US, if you work and pay your taxes, and don't commit any major crime, you'd be just about impossible to deport. They'll legalize you, one way or another
lesson44: Not on 40k or like the guy I responded to said even for 10k.
Some people have never had $5k in their account since going abroad plus have all sorts of problems. Now you are offering them $40k plus a fresh clean start with no record, and you think they won't take it??
destinytreasure: I'm not in Abroad, I dey Naija already. Just give me the $40k and tell me not travel abroad. Believe me $40k will double to $80k.
Believe me, that $40k will soon disappear unless you are a special kind of person. You'd buy better car, better everything and also increase your profile in society. All that will increase your expenses long before you figure out a way to increase your income. B4 long, money gone!
upsupa: Depends on what stage of life you are in. Prospects are very limited in Naija for young people. $40K for Naija no be nothing. How will you make a living? If you are older and cant hustle, take the 40K and continue the life you are used to. If you are in your early to mid 20s, take the 1K and come to Yankee to hustle. At least light dey and food dey and you never acquire responsibilities for Naija and prospect dey.
It all depends on your circumstance. Me I no fit return to Naija even if you give me $400K, not at this stage of life. When I retire, you dont have to ask me before I move back to Naija
Very good answer! Amazing that no one has mentioned age and stage in life until this guy. Of course! It all depends on your AGE and circumstances. But, regardless of age, if you are a typical Nigerian, the $40k will quickly evaporate and you'd be back exactly where you were!
shunlet210: I wish somebody can just drop you there with $1k as you wish, I will be glad you learn some lessons life and direct. How much is $1k dollar, it does not even rent a home not to talk of feeding and other things. That is how all of una go dey Naija and think everything is easy outside there. when people will not tell you the truth.
I will not rent anything. I don't even have to buy food. I'd simply work, even driving job, and save my money. See below $33k!
AkhereOkaka: Are you this deluded, live in Europe without papers, I can talk of Europe cause I have been living and working in Italy since 2016, came back from Nigeria 3weeks ago, though things are tough in Nigeria currently (I mean cost of living) but it worse off living in Europe undocumented (without papers.
We rise by lifting others
You CHOOSE where to go. Europe is not the only place in the world. These people below keep trooping to the border year after year, why di they pay so much money to coyotes to smuggle them, why would do anything to enter US, and would do anything to return if ever deported
AkhereOkaka: Do you know how the asylum process work? Sometimes people come online to say what they know little or nothing about.
I won't advise anyone to seek asylum, though I currently lives in Milan Italy, have a friend who migrated to UK six years ago seeked asylum and currently his asylum has be rejected including appeal. Passing the asylum route is not advisable anywhere.
We rise by lifting others
Yes, there is how the asylum process is supposed to work. But some places will do anything to have you stay once you are there, including paying you. The asylum process becomes a formality
drakeli: Since we’re not talking about criminals and mentally ill persons. Those will accept any deal. No sane able body Nigeria would leave the US for $10k. You better come with something worth it. Even if he’s homeless, so far he’s not sick in the head, he won’t accept that. He knows there’s better life ahead. US is not Europe. Things always get better for anyone that’s determined
But the OP did not exclude them. Besides, remember even some Americans who relocated to Africa surprisingly say years later it was a great decision - and no one gave then shi shi to relocate
Travel › Re: Abroad Guys: Would You Relocate Back To Nigeria If Given $40k by PoliteActivist(op): 6:22am On Nov 16, 2022
No. Thank you.