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dazzlingd:
Congratulations! A well deserved victory

Well, thank you!
I actually really did bet, and I won!
But it's sort of a pyrrhic victory because no tangible rewards come with it

sonmvayina:
What does that mean?
Never heard of it before..

I means blood descendants of Jacob. See my screensbots above

Kobojunkie:
1. Wait a minute .. you claimed the Sabbath was ordained since creation. Now you claim Adam, Cain, Noah, Abraham, Jacob etc. , all lived before the commandment meaning the Sabbath was not in fact ordained as you claim from creation.

2. Who exactly made whom spiritual jews?

Do you even understand who the Jews are and what God said of them even from the beginning? Deuteronomy 9 vs 6. Why would anyone want to volunteer to be a Jew abeg?

1. Read carefully. I said Saturday was ordained holy right from creation

2. See screenshot above or just use your own common sense, it becomes pbvious

Kobojunkie:
▪︎Spiritual Jew? What in the world does that mean?

▪︎ Jesus Christ, who is Law and Constitution in the Kingdom of God, the one who you claim to be your saviour, gave to you a different laws regarding rest. Isn't it even more illogical to claim you trust in Jesus Christ yet ignoring His very laws all so you can follow instead a law given to another people in another land?

See below

sonmvayina:
Jews keep Saturday..not Sunday.

Christians keep Sunday as day of worship but also keep Saturday as day of rest.

Both wrong.
Biological Jews who are Christians keep Sunday.
Christians don't keep Saturday as day if rest

Kobojunkie:
1. Please, let's not now attempt to rewrite scripture.

There is no record of Adam, or Noah, Abraham or even Jacob, observing a Sabbath.

2. There is no need for that since that which is not according to God's very own commandment - in His Law - is of the delusions of men. So observing a day of Sabbath when God has commanded no such from you then pretending you do it in honor of God is what Jesus Christ taught amounts to worshipping God in vain.

They lived b4 the commandment. We, spiritual jews, are living after the commandments. On what basis do we choose another day instead of the day ordained holy from creation?!

Kobojunkie:
He made a day holy because He rested on that from His creation Work. It is not written that He specified any of what that means to men at the time. The Law He gave to Adam did not specify the observance of a Holy day so how can you state that it was ordained by God from creation? To whom and for what purpose?

If a particular day has been ordained holy right from creation and Israelites are told to also keep that specific day holy, why would you, a spiritual Jew, choose another day to observe it? On what logic? That is the question

sonmvayina:
Saturday is a day of rest that God ordained for the Jews.

Sunday is a day of worship for Christians..

Question is, why?
And why did/do converted jews keep Sunday instead of Saturday?

See quote below, did God make it holy only for Jews?

Kobojunkie:
1. But the "rest" commandment which you pretend to keep is that given by God only to those who are of the blood of Jacob and living in the nation of Israel, so what you do ---- whether you do it on a Saturday or Sunday
- is completely removed from that commanded by God for the fact that you are not of the blood of Israel nor do you live in the land of Canaan among the Israelites.

2. The simple answer is that, depending on the whims and will of men who you have placed as gods over you, you follow the days your religious leaders have ordained for you rather than obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.

1) God made a specific day holy. He did not say it was holy only for Israel

2) Now you are approaching the truth. Go back a little further in history and find out why it had to be Sunday (including for converted Jews) instead of the Saturday that was ordained holy.

Kobojunkie:
Where is it written that God did that which you claim from creation?

See below.

Kobojunkie:
What God gave Moses was Constitutional Law for the Nation of Israel, a Nation which He constituted of the people of Israel in the Land of Canaan comprising of about 613 total statutes, commandments, ritual ceremonies(including holy days-holidays-to be observed) - not just the first 10 commandments which those of you who have never in fact taken time for yourselves to read through the Law are aware of.

God made it abundantly clear to all that that Constitution serves only those who are of the blood of Israel in the land of Canaan - foreigners who live amongst them in the land benefit in some ways .I.e. the dogs benefit from the crumbs that fall from the table - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20

Since we insist on keeping the "rest" commandment, why do we do it on Sunday instead of the Saturday 4 which it was ordained?
That was the question

TenQ:
Which day is Sabbath was the Question!
I've answered: Sabbath is not just one day. It means DAY of REST or in modern language PUBLIC HOLIDAY ! Are the four classes of Sabbath I mentioned a Fabrication? If not,

I ask, do you keep the WHOLE of the Sabbath law?
Jam 2:10:
"For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

So, again I ask:
Do you keep the WHOLE of the Sabbath law?

If you don't, I have a word for you

Mat 7:5:
"You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother's eye."

Preach the Sabbath only AFTER you have kept the whole law of the Sabbath my dear!

More deceptive, circular talk.
Simple:
From creation God ordained one day as day of rest. If that day is Saturday, why do we observe it on Sundays??

TenQ:
Which day is Sabbath was the Question!
I've answered: Sabbath is not just one day. It means DAY of REST or in modern language PUBLIC HOLIDAY ! Are the four classes of Sabbath I mentioned a Fabrication? If not,

I ask, do you keep the WHOLE of the Sabbath law?
Jam 2:10:
"For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

So, again I ask:
Do you keep the WHOLE of the Sabbath law?

If you don't, I have a word for you

Mat 7:5:
"You hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of your own eye; and then shall you see clearly to cast out the mote out of your brother's eye."

Preach the Sabbath only AFTER you have kept the whole law of the Sabbath my dear!

See, a very simple question, and you are trying to confuse it with deceptive talk in order to win an argument.
Simple:
If, from creation, Saturday was ordained Sabbath, why do we observe if on Sundays??

LordErrk:
This explicitly tells me you have no idea how things work abroad

Well, see screenshots below. How many times have you seen Boko Haram chasing Christians in Lagos? Why not move to a different part of Nigeria or to Togo or something.
Why must it be automatically US

FreeIgboho:
But if I answer the questions that means you LOST! We don’t want you to lose now, do we? Reason am well

Well, I'm a big boy. Winning is not everything. Besides, I have already won. That phase is over. We're now in another phase.

TenQ:
After the lecture, have you considered if you obeyed ALL the Sabbath or not?

Are you guilty?

Read the heading of this thread again. The discussion is which DAY does the 4th commandment say.
NOT what I obey or don't obey!

DiorPence:
Nigerians, read! They can't read or understand

He's not fighting death or trying hard not to die.

Ok, so interpret his following statements below

TenQ:
Let me give you the response I gave someone on NL on similar issue





The Jews had more than one kind of Sabbath.
a. Weekly Sabbath
b. Annual Sabbath
c. Seven Year Sabbath
d. Seventy Year Sabbath

There are actually seven kinds of Annual Sabbath that the Children of Israel celebrate. All thse are called HIGH SABBATH (Special Sabbath)
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Sabbaths

Examples apart from the Seventh day Sabbath (Saturday) :
i. Passover (the 14th of Nisan)
ii. Feast of Unleavened Bread, a holiday which is always observed on the 15th day of the month of Nisan
iii. Feast of First Fruits which was held on the Sunday following the Passover.
iv. Feast of Tabernacles


The day of Preparation is any day before a Sabbath.

Vadict:
Mark and John specified that Jesus was crucified on the day of Preparation (before Sabbath without specifying the kind of Sabbath).

John specified that the Sabbath was on a High Day (high Sabbath). This Sabbath was NOT the Weekly Sabbath but the Annual Sabbath. Jesus was crucified a day before the Annual Sabbath (Day of Preparation)
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2. Jesus was said to have died just before Sabbath day (Saturday) which is Friday!

Response:
As explained above, the Day of Preparation was a Day before the High Sabbath NOT the Weekly Sabbath.

The High Sabbath Fell on a Friday (Thursday evening to Friday according to Jewish reconning of days), thus Jesus was crucified on a Thursday Morning and was buried before Thursday Evening.


3. High Sabbath is the day two festivals were celebrated on a single day.

Response:
No sir. A high Sabbath is ANY of the seven Annual Sabbaths of Israel even though, sometimes it falls on a weekly Sabbath

See Attachments!



4. It was impossible for Jesus to die of his two legs were not broken.
Response:
I laugh in Swahili and Turkish language.

A. Jesus said:
John 10:17-18:
"Therefore does my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man takes it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father."


In other words, Jesus gave up his spirit when He knew the Atonement it was completed.

Luk 23:46:
"And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into your hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost."

B. Have you ever heard that two men were fighting and one slumped and died even when no weapon was used?
Time of use and the nature instrument of punishment does not determine how fast a person would die from his injury.
C. Jesus was Arrested on Wednesday night and tried overnight till Thursday morning in three different locations before being crucified about 9:00 am Thursday morning. He didn't rest throughout the night before he was crucified. This was probably why he couldn't carry his cross and this had to be helped by Joseph of Arimathea

FINALLY:
Why do you think the Women came to anoint the Body of Jesus on Sunday and not Thursday, Friday or Saturday?

Jesus was buried just before the high Sabbath on Thursday Evening therefore there was tp time to anoint his dead body properly for his burial. The High Sabbath commenced from the evening of Thursday to the Evening of Friday (according to the Jews reconning of days).

Therefore, Jesus body could not be anointed properly for burial. By Friday evening, the Weekly Sabbath commenced till Saturday evening so, the body still couldn't be anointed. Thus, very early Sunday morning, the women went to anoint the body of Jesus.

Mar 16:1-2:
"And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came to the sepulcher at the rising of the sun."

See this one. This is what happens when you try to twist something straight forward to fit something else - you confuse yourself.
Jews have all sorts of laws and traditions, some evolved over time, some were given by their priests. Moses was given TEN commandments
CLEARLY, what we are discussing here is the DAY of rest that is one of those commandments!
And here you are, deceptively trying to conflate that straightforward commandment with Jewish laws and traditions!

TenQ:
1. Are you aware that several kinds of Sabbath exist?
2. Do you keep all in the four categories of Sabbath?

1. No I'm not aware several types of Sabbath exist.
I thought God commanded rest on Saturday and that was that!

2. Please let's hear it: what are the four types?

FreeIgboho:
I was not laughing at you, I was laughing with you.
YOU WON!

Why not try to answer the questions instead of being a wise guy

TenQ:
Sabbath actually means REST or HOLIDAY CELEBRATION

Question is, when was it ordained by God. If Saturday, why then do we rest on Sundays?

Make it N100,000, then we can talk

Why do you keep saying a graduate of this, a graduate of that??!!!
Who cares??!!!!!!!
Especially these ridiculous, mushroom Nigerian "universities"!!!

ysyowel:
Sabbath means rest, God rested on the 7th day and He declared the 7th day (Saturday) Holy and a day of rest and worship ...
Sabbath is a symbol and a shadow of things to come (Col2:16-17 Heb 10:1). Jesus is the reality and the fulfilment of the Sabbath, that is why he said "come unto me, all you that labour and are heavy laden, and i will give you rest" (Matt 11:28). rest (Sabbath) means receiving Jesus as Lord and Saviour, it is a rest from bondage. read Heb 4:1-16 for more explanation.
concerning the day of worship, everyday is a day of worship read Rom 14:5-6
Sunday is the Lord's day, a day that the first Church began to worship. so whether you chose Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday to worship God your worship is acceptable. But always remember Sunday was universally accepted as the worship day

What sort of convoluted answer is this?

FreeIgboho:

Shine your teeth all you want, I WON!

This is becoming an epidemuc

Tomcorp:
One at a time. Digest this message first.

You can't have one without the other appearing immediately, like you can't have only one side of a page, you can't have up without down, negative without positive, etc

mmadu5:
Stupid animal . Foolish post . Gold digger

Below is what I posted. Explain to us why it is foolish but the OP is not

PoliteActivist:
And what is the right mindset a single man must have to get a good lady??

And what is the right mindset a single man must have to get a good lady??

PoliteActivist:
Wow. You sound like part of the 1% - not your average guy. So your case is quite different. Your dreams are not weird at all, they are BIG - as they ought be. And since your heart is in the right place they are sure to come to fruition. Kudos on all you've done so far. Keep up the good work!

(Folks, sorry for mentioning you all here - it's an experiment of sorts.
People who can speak Igbo, please help us translate the video below. What you folks think of it? What you think of this thread or trend generally?
Also what's your biggest accomplishment or dream about going abroad? Conversely, if you are in Naija, do you sometimes regret not going? What's the one aspect of Naija that'll finally make you japa, no matter the cost?
Floor is yours, feel free to vent. Remember, no one here knows who you are!)

https://youtu.be/4twdqpBqcI

EXPERIMENT SUCCESSFULL!!!
The bet was that not a single person would respond.
I was right!
I WON!!!

THREAD CLOSED

Mentholated:
Most distant marriages ( 2 continents) are open marriages. One partner will always be in denial though.

And one will be jealous, always snooping - especially the one that married up in one way or another