₦airaland Forum

May 29, 2019 is the Hand Over Day.

Nothing can change that.

Neoteny:
So demanding for freedom of the Palestinians from the oppression of Israel, a humanitarian issue, is now an Islamic agenda?

Wow you Nigerian christians are so bigoted you live in irrational fear of Islam.

Your myopia is only harming you and narrowing your worldview.

You're talking about confusion, but you yourself seemed confused by your own point.

On one hand you maintain Nigeria is a secular country, on the other hand you append some religious symbolism to moving our embassy to Jerusalem.

I guess your confusion is a reflection of the present state of Nigerian Christianity: confused, confounded, and bewildered.

You can read, no doubt about that.

It's difficult to say the same about your comprehension abilities though.

Maybe you should find someone to interpret to you in the language you understand.

You are more confused with this your last post than earlier assumed.

So...Mr Humanitarian... tell us again...

Buhari's call for Jerusalem to be the capital of a proposed Palestinian state is freedom fighting for the oppressed.

But CAN's call for Nigeria's government to move its embassy to the capital of a country where it has a diplomatic presence is bigotry.

Very confusing.

The president of a secular country broke a historic policy of his country's secularism and non-align agreements to declare his preferences based on his religion and he is a freedom fighter with a Nobel nomination but the Christian community in his country expressed their own preference in the spirit of a broken/canceled policy and they are suddenly bigots. See logic.

That must be a serious 'humanitarian' logic.

A simple Google search will reveal the symbolism of Jerusalem to Christianity to you.

Majority of the world Christians support Jerusalem. The American pastor who preached on the day of US embassy opening had denounced Jews severely.

If you continue to whine about CAN or Nigerian Christians' issues you are setting yourself up for serious health complications; something like high blood pressure.

We won't be conquered.

Guestlander:
Oga, the capital of Israel is Tel Aviv not Jerusalem.

You don't know what you are saying.

It's better to just be observing.

Jerusalem is the ETERNAL and UNDIVIDED capital of Israel.

Neoteny:
You're hyperventilating over a trivial issue that's more of frivolity than any matter of import.

1. CAN is just doing a me-too because the US did it.

2. There's no religious, cultural, diplomatic, or political benefit to moving the embassy to Jerusalem. If it serves no religious purpose, why then is CAN advocating for it?

3. Is CAN trying to christianize Nigeria, as it's quick to call anything done with even the remotest link to Islam as islamization?

4. Didn't the same CAN bark at various times that Nigeria is a secular country?

This is just much ado about nothing.

Just religious busybodies with nothing to do but rile the masses.

Your rigmarole has finally landed you in a conclusion that the matter is trivial.

With one side of your mouth or finger you said CAN is doing Me-too or whatever you call it and from the other side you are asking whether CAN is trying to Christianize Nigeria even while mainntaining in your posts that Israel is not a Christian country.

It's hard getting the head and tail of your argument.

Nevertheless, CAN has maintained and still maintains that Nigeria is not an Islamic country. Nigeria will never be an Islamic country.

Religion is a sensitive issue in Nigeria. Successive governments have tried to walk a tight rope and have carefully managed it. Each administration had had its own share of one religious crisis or another.

But you can see how Buhari's actions since he assumed office have been promoting Islamic projects without care instead of maintaining Nigeria's multi-religious/secular identity.

He went to the mideast to pledge Nigeria into a coalition of Islamic country's against terrorism without regard to the sensitivity of the issue. And with one boring explanation about Boko Haram or no Boko Haram he waved it aside.

For decades, Nigeria's foreign policy thrust has centered on Africa primarily and on non-align agreements. Nigeria is a prominent member of Non-align nations because of our diversity in religion, culture , opinion etc.

We are not supposed to take side in certain debate in order to majntain our neutrality on many world divisive issues. But Buhari has been carrying out as if we are an extension of Saudi Arabia.
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On the issue of Jerusalem, Buhari promised Nigeria's total support for his Palestinian brothers' to have their own country with Jerusalem as the capital. Something he said in his capacity as Nigeria president while Nigeria is supposed to take a neutral stand. Who are his brothers? Are Fulanis related to Palestinians in any way? Didn't he say that because of Islam affinity?

Now, in the circumstances, are you saying the Christian community in Nigeria should just sit down and be looking like dummies so that you won't call us Zionists or me-too?

We are not conquered. We won't be. If Nigeria has jettisoned its time tested policies that have ensured relative/fragile paece by the actions of Buhari then you shouldn't unnecessarily get yourself worked up by CAN's opposite and equal reactions.

Neoteny:
Do you deny CAN's seeming affinity with modern Israel?

Embassies are symbols of modern diplomacy between governments.

The Israeli government is a Zionist one, not a christian one. So your symbolism is misplaced in the context of modern politics.

Why? Do you want CAN's affinity with ancient Siberia or Argentina?

You are within your rights to hold any opinion about Zionist or modern politics or whatever.

The discussion is about CAN's call for Nigeria's government to move its embassy in Israel to Israel's capital Jerusalem just like the US government has done.

And CAN is within its constitutional right to so demand based on its interpretation of Jerusalem's significance in the Christians' Bible.

All your Zionists theory is not important to the discussion.

By the way, the center of modern global politics is in the US - Washington DC and New York.

Neoteny:
Nope. Those are westernized versions of the Arabic numerals.

Nope and Westernized versions.

Make up your mind on which one you want to push.

It shows you barely have a grasp of what you are talking about.

Next time get educated very well on a subject before you call people ignorant.

Are the current form of currencies not westernized versions of paper notes?

Neoteny:
Arabic is a language, not a religion.

Your ignorance is symptomatic of the collective foolishness of Nigerian christians.

Because yours is a religion based on symbolism, you find emblems and motifs even where there are none.

Paganism has eaten too deep into your dogma.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0 are also Arabic numerals.

What's wrong with them on our currencies?

Neoteny:
Idiotic CAN and its ignorant tithe-paying sheep

As if Israel is a christian country.

These fools forget Jews hate Jesus and everything he stood for.

Judaism is still waiting for its Messiah.

We know all these.

They dont erode Jerusalem's place in Christianity.

They are talking of Jerusalem not Judaism.

PRESENTATION:
Two embassies one for Christians and the other for Muslims. That’d stop the tussle na

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The Palestinians are also claiming Jerusalem as their capital mind you.

They are not claiming Tel Aviv or Gaza or West Bank.

But they are not even a country yet.

Israel is already a country with its ETERNAL and UNDIVIDED capital in Jerusalem.

Mercycity:
Israel-palestine-jerusalem issue is not about religion. CAN is wrong on this

Was Buhari right when he said this in 2016?

“I want to assure you that we will stand side by side with you, until our brothers and sisters in Palestine achieve their desired objectives,” he said.

“Our support for various Security Council resolutions restoring and respecting 1967 boundaries with Jerusalem as capital of Palestine is firm and unshaken.”

https://www.google.com.ng/amp/s/www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/199232-nigerias-president-buhari-declares-total-support-palestinian-state.html/amp

12inches1:
Whether Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, how does the capital of Israel improve Nigeria's economy or provide jobs? CAN is turning to an irrelevant group. Their focus right now should be outcry against the death of Christians all over the country.

It reduces the cost of governance.

Jerusalem is the capital of Israel and they have all their government activities there.

That's where our officials get to relate with their own government.

bigtt76:
The wan Herdsmen are doing because of grazing lands nor do eh? Una wan go instigate another one ....issssorite! Wonder why CAN cannot mind their business when it comes to politics. How does relocating Nigerian Embassy to Jerusalem help the suffering masses?

What you are advocating is called appeasement.

Because herdsmen are killing we should all keep quiet, right?

No, it won't happen.

At a point, everyone will be held accountable for his role in the killings.

It may be soon, it may be later.

Human life is sacred.

Empiree:
Was Abuja a controversial land unlike Jerusalem?. Your comparison is odd. Jerusalem as the "capital" of israel was achieved by fraudulence means.

That's your opinion, sir.

No one choses a capital city for a country.

No one has that right.

It is the decision of individual country to decide which city it makes its capital.

Murtala Mohammed and Olusegun Obasanjo with Justice Akinola Aguda planned Abuja as the capital city of Nigeria. Ibrahim Babangida did the actual move.

Many people were not happy about the move then.

Many people are still not happy but there's nothing they can do about it.

Tha Ambassador of Nigeria would still have to submit his letter of credence in Jerusalem whether he likes it or not.

Sorry.

kotv:
And what changes will this do? It's like ignorance has inflicted every leadership position in that country

No, you are the one who is actually ignorant.

Israel has its seat of government in Jerusalem.

The executive, legislature and judiciary are all present there.

Jerusalem is Israel's capital just like Abuja is the capital of Nigeria.

PRESENTATION:
I suggest we have two embassies one in Jerusalem and the other at Tel Aviv

Since una dey find building contract

You mean an embassy in Jerusalem and a consulate in Tel Aviv right?

We can't have two embassies.

uboma:
Of what importance is relocating the Nigerian Embassy in Tel Aviv to Jerusalem?

Will this stop the wanton killings of innocent Nigerians? Will this improve the economy?

Will this lead to the release of the Dapchi Christian girl who is still in captivity?

Jerusalem is the capital of Israel.

Countries have their embassies in their host nation's capital city.

All countries' embassies in Lagos were moved to Abuja when Nigeria's capital was relocated to FCT.

overall90:
This explanation is very watery and doesn't make sense at all.
why four subjects when the exam is meant to be only on one paper.
the truth is that this people are up to something.
what I think is going to happen is that some northerners who are very proficient in Arabic are going to answer the Arabic question and they will be assessed and scored on it.

You have spoken well my friend.

Something is really going on.

Dr. Fabian explained: “Alphabetically, Arts comes first, followed by Arabic, then Agric, and then English.

“The software is designed to push four subjects per candidate; so, those three other subjects were dummy subjects that weren’t meant to be answered because there’s practically no mark for them in this particular examination.

How can this be in alphabetical order?

What kind of alphabet is this in?

The correct order is:

Agric

Arabic

Art

How can we trust the rest of the statement now when the major plank on which it is rested is faulty?

It does mean that there's more to this.

This is way beyond the intellectual capacity of the APC government.

These kind of cerebral discussions were seen last in May 2015.

Topical issues right now are cattle colonies and water resource control by the FG.

They sold baranda to Nigerians.

The next government should start from the recommendation of this document.

A judicial panel should be commissioned to look into all these findings.

They destroyed the parents' jobs and turned the children to destitutes being 'fed' like Almajiri.

A good government will ensure parents have capacity to 'feed' their own children.

WATER COLONY LOADING.

This is the continuation of Fulani colony.

They are driving their COWS to the banks of the rivers while claiming Federal Government ownership of such river banks.

The colonialists can use their "cutlasses to CUT FOLIAGE for their COWS" on the "Federal Government land".

What about the killings, the sudden deaths and the suicides?

Money and possessions can be returned, but how many lost lives can be returned back now?

Too bad.

Can the mass sack of teachers solve the Northerners' entitlement mindset?

Would we start seeing stiff and fair competiton between these pupils and their southern counterparts now?

Will El Rufai remove Kaduna State from the list of educational less developed states now?

Now that he has 'cleaned up' the teachers, we are expecting to see Kaduna more at the top of national examinations and academic competitions.

Shouldn't El Rufai start rallying his co-Northern governors to abbrogate quota system now that they have found the solution to their educational backwardness?

El Rufai believes in total destruction of human lives and property.

No formula to build anything.

Just to destroy people's lives and property.

His destructive habit can only appeal to evil minded people.

It certainly can never get the support of any professor.

Except those evil minded.
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Professors don't destroy, they build.

Olusegun Adeniyi is one of the Buhari worshippers who would do anything for his god to stay in office.

He is merely trying to 'win' election for his god by demoralizing voters to make them feel as if Buhari's election is a fait accompli.

By 2012, Buhari had not recovered from the destabilization due to his massive defeat at the poll the previous year. As at 2012, Buhari was still crying on account of his loss.

His 'promise' to never contest any election ever again was still fresh. It wasn't until much later that his rehabilitation started; spearheaded by those who wanted to take advantage of his extreme lack of ideas to push their own interests.

It is a shame that Adeniyi is allowing himself to be used against the masses of Nigeria like he was used in the disgraceful Yaradua's health saga. He thought then that loyalty must always be to the 'their leader' instead of the masses.

Shame.

Watch out for his kind, folks. They are many. Pseudo intellectuals using their media bully pupits to control people's thoughts. It doesn't matter to them that Buhari has been tested and has been adjudged a grand failure both at home and abroad.

It doesn't matter how many Christians are killed by terrorists and Buhari's response would be an appeal to the victims to go and 'live peacefully' with people who swore that the killings wont stop until they have their way. The number of people who commit suicide across the country daily because of Buhari heartlless governance is not in his analysis. How Buhari destroyed millions of jobs due to his 9th century economic programmes is not in reckoning. The disillusioned youths being pummeled by Buhari at every opportunity don't matter to Olusegun Adeniyi.

It matters nothing to Adeniyi and his Buhari worship gang that Nigerians' last hope out of poverty and squalor that Buhari has thrown them in the last three years is the opportunity to throw him out of office through the ballot next year.

You won't even read anything connected to the underage voting and PVC problems which INEC is struggling with. He has already even declared INEC a success before the first presidential election form is sold.

He doesn't even want factor INEC's timetable for party activities and selection processes. The timetable from INEC ensures that Kayode Fayemi did not emerge as governorship candidate until two weeks ago, just two months to the July 14 election in Ekiti for example.

Alll he wants to say or what he has been asked to pass around js that no one can defeat Buhari; the kind of omnipotent features that Ademiyi thought Yaradua possessed. This is the same belief Buhari himself and his supporters have. In fact, he believes he has never lost any election but been rigged out.

That is the dangerous poison Adeniyi is passing around. Because by the time Buhari is massively defeated next year, his worshippers would not agree that he lost squarely. A repeat of 2011 can best be imagined.

Bangladesh is appearing in your article as an example of what?

seunmsg:
And some ignorant Nairalanders would believe this nonsense.

Subsidy on petrol rises 386% in a month to N1.4 trillion - Kachiku

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/264187-subsidy-on-petrol-rises-386-in-a-month-to-n1-4-trillion-kachikwu.html

Deji7474:
However there is a tweak to it:

Under the subsidy regime of the Jonathan government, oil marketers were paid bogus amounts of monies to cover for their expenses to supply the country fuel and maintain the price at an affordable amount - this led to the enriching of a few and impoverishing of the country, as most of the oil marketers did not even make any deliveries to Nigeria but were paid billions of Naira. Some others took crude oil to Ghana and Benin Republic but where paid as well.

Under the new system which operates under the Buhari’s government, oil marketers do not receive money from government. Instead, NNPC bears the cost of the differential and takes the hit on their own balances by ensuring that the price of petrol remains at N145 regardless of the fact that the landing cost has increased in such a way to make the 145 unprofitable.

In this new arrangement - which is called UNDER-RECOVERY - the Nigerian consumers benefit and not the marketers. If this is not done, the price of fuel would shoot up and the President has said he would never allow that happen.

What the government is doing to put an end to this regime, which is in itself a short term solution - is to fix our refineries including encouraging private sector involvement.

Chief Financial Officer of NNPC, Mr. Isiaka AbdulRazaq, who traced the advent of the subsidy regime to October, 2003 when NNPC was directed by government to commence the purchase of domestic crude oil at international market price without a corresponding liberalization of the regulated price of petroleum products noted that the subsidy regime has changed.

He explained that under the Jonathan subsidy regime, NNPC and other suppliers of refined petroleum products were entitled to file subsidy claims to the Petroleum Products Pricing Regulatory Agency (PPPRA).

Mr. AbdulRasaq, however, noted that unlike oil marketers, under the under-recovery regime NNPC did not receive cash payment for subsidy claims as its claims were deducted out of cost payment to the Federation Account after due certification by PPPRA.

We would know everything when Buhari leaves.

Don't be in a hurry.

Whether it's under-recovery or over-recovery or middle-recovery everything recovered would one day be made open to all.

What we know now is that the amount of subsidy paid to make fuel sell at N87 per litre was far lesser than the amount being paid to make fuel sell for N145 per litre.

Also note that the law says that NNPC must remit all revenue to the Federation Account.

profosa:
Ignorance is a disease.Does NNPC still payout subsidy to marketers? The way my no shoe C in C was doling out money to marketers.

Now the NNPC imports fully and then resale.cost of importing-cost of sale@145.if it is a loss,it is recovered against revenue due fg.if it is a gain,it is added to fgn revenue.how this amount to your alleged trillions i dont know.

What is the meaning of this mumbo jumbo?

Does this sound intelligent to you?

Is it Christians that asked Buhari to tell Benue people to go and live peacefully with their fellow human beings when they are being killed?

Is it Christians that instructed Miyeti Allah Cattle Breeders to tell the whole world that there would not be peace unless the anti open grazing law is reversed?

Is it the divisive Christians that mandated the Inspector General of Police to declare the massacre of Christians as a communal clash?

Whatever you do in your paid duty to defend your bosses, always remember that God is a consuming fire.

It was your type who deceived the Christians in the north that once they voted for Buhari the killings would stop, but the killers have developed extreme confidence now more than ever before.

Even with the allegations that killings happened under past Christian presidents, suspected killers then were apprehended and charged to courts for judicial pronouncements. Several hundreds were arrested by the law enforcement agents and remanded in prison custody.

As you write your epistle, did you ask yourselves how many suspects in these killings under Buhari have been arrested and being prosecuted?

Instead of that, the suspected killers arrested under the past governments who are facing trials in courts have been pardoned and released in their hundreds. Among whom are extremely violent individuals suspected of being behind the attacks you listed in your epistle.

It is better to fear God. For God is a consuming fire.

Nothing tells you that posting Osinbajo's political statements in a religious gathering won't improve the battered image you have forced everyone to have of your government. If it would, you won't have to be reposting it for propaganda sake. Everyone would have been talking about it. It would have calmed tension in the polity. You would not have been here wasting government resources reposting it.

Only a few people feels that such statements make any meaning. The speech is meaningless. No one takes that kind of speech seriously. It sounds hollow.

Osinbajo has spent the last three years almost telling Christians to shut up. He boasts everywhere that he is the embodiment of Christianity in the Buhari administration. He is called upon to come and talk down on Christians whenever concerns are raised. He lets Christians know that his personal comfort in government is representative of the comfort of Nigerian Christians.

When two Christian women were killed for their beliefs in Kano and Kubwa, Abuja, it was Osinbajo that was sent out to spin the narratives. He made the killings look like it's a normal thing. Arrested suspects were promptly released without diligent prosecution. Victims families were probably compensated with money, as if that is all there is to human lives. No sense of justice. And he is a lawyer. A Senior Advocate of Nigeria. A professor of law.

donstan18:
-People can be motivated by him in helping the poor.

-Every kindly helper deserves a big praises and likes from people.

-Our concentration should be on the fact that he helped a poor boy, not how he brought it to social media.

-Even the bible publicized how Jesus helped the poor, they didn't hide it.


I simply don't think it's necessary to say anything concerning how he brought it to social media.

Jesus said...

"So when you give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, so that they may be honored by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.

"But when you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,

"so that your giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you."


Matthew 6:2-4