₦airaland Forum

Yoighaman:
You are a genius.

Thanks bro.. Many people are blinded by ethnic sentiments..

The choices for Atiku is to get the easterners and south south increased interests in voting.. No matter what he does, be will still lose south west due to Tinubu and the current vp. So he should be fighting for percentage cuts from west.

sangresan:
You are one of the misinformed fellas here...Saraki has no influence in the SW...In fact, he will be battling to retain his Kwara as at that time because Kwara South and North are already slipping through his grip...

If election is free and fair, PDP will really garner votes from the SW...But I m telling you, lots of PDP supporters won't even be allowed to vote. Mark it.

Brother, why not see my point of view instead of sounding harsh..

Look, if he chooses south west for vp the same scenario will still play out. He wil be rigged very well and he will still get voting apathy from the east.

So which is better? Is it not better he gets the votes no matter the size from west, and see how to entice the people from the east to come out and vote?

The people from the east are all over the country. The major problem for those people from the east has always been voting apathy.

As e bad as e bad, pdp can still get even if na 1 million votes from west no matter how hard things are.. Even if he chooses south west for vp, he will still suffer the same fate..

Do u now get the point? South west will vote massively for apc. What Atiku needs is to find a way to pull votes from east, south south and middle belt. Picking vp from west will cripple his chances of getting the interests to vote from south south or east.. Those guys have apathy.

No matter what Atiku does, western influential leaders will still not vote for him. He just needs voting percentage form the west

olawalepopoola:
If he picks from the East, Osibanjo factor will play out it the west and will be very hard for the north to vote for him cos of the political rifts between the Igbos and most part of the country

If he chooses from the west, he will still not win except Tinubu supports him. The west already has Tinubu and the current VP, there is no way he can win west over again. If he chooses west, east will use voting apathy and he will lose badly..

His best option is to find way to get up to 40% votes from west which is possible due to people like Daniel, Fayose, Saraki, etc. They can help him get up to 40% votes..

As for the north, he will share the votes there wella with Buhari. He will win some northern states. He has the backing of some northern leaders. If they don't want him to file in a VP from the east, they would have told him straight away.

His strongest regions are middle belt, south south and south east.
The south south already has the pdp chairman. The south west already has two prominent positions in the pdp as it stands..

All he needs is a way to pull the igbos to vote. Igbos can give him serious votes if he can make them to come out and vote within and outside the south east region.. Politics is calculated bro..

From history, igbos will rather not vote than to vote for APC. So when the east feel they don't have a stake in pdp anymore, what will happen is that they will vote less in number. While south west will always give Buhari 50-55% votes due to Tinubu and Osinbade factors now. No matter what Atiku does for now, he will never win south west.

He should use his campaign manager who is a yoruba man, people like Saraki, Fayose, Obansajo, etc to get at least 40-45% of the votes in the west. That is all he can ever get from west for now.

He needs the south south and south east to vote in millions for him. And if they are really interested in voting, they cab give him over 10 million votes combined together..

Buterflyle0:
I have always known you to be sub literate so I am not surprised at your comment.

Every single person involved in the atiku money laundry and bribe case have been arrested and jailed except Atiku.

Even his 4th wife in USA was arrested, tried in court and sentenced.

This is not about Atiku refusing to associate with USA. It is about the reason why.

Since 2006 till date he keeps raising one silly excuse or the other why he does not want to go. Meanwhile the document from the US senate and homeland security in the OP has clearly shown why he is running.

The key link between Atiku and the movement of these monies into USA, Mr Jefferson who was a congressman at that time was arrested, tried and sentenced.

Atikus house in the US was raided by the FBI and documents indicting him were discovered. Atiku later hurriedly sold the house for over $2.9m

Bro, pls I would vote for Atiku over Buhari anytime any day..

Buhari who is Mr integrity and Mr saint has done absolutely nothing..

Buterflyle0:
Maybe its the United States who have been talking about this "propaganda" since 2010 right?

The document is truthful, authentic and authoritative with the seal of US senate on it in affiliation with their homeland security.

Yet you call it propaganda. I guess PDP who has now embraced Atiku have forgotten they were behind this exposure of Atiku when Atiku left them for APC.

In essence since you call it propaganda, then know that its PDP that is spreading it and not APC.

As long as APC allowed and welcomed him, we don't have issues with that.

Mr integrity has done nothing for us.. Lie lie, Buhari will never rule us again..

Thunder fire u all Buhari and APC supporters.

What have we achieved as Mr integrity ruled us?

All the scams taking place in nigeria under Buhari, what has he done about it?

Was Atiku not allowed to join APC before and spent so much money there? He was even instrumented to Buhari's victory.

Guys, Atiku stole or he didn't steal, allow the law to take it effects, face Atiku man to man and not this useless propaganda. I knew APC would come with this kind of useless propaganda..

Tinubu, Amaechi, Abba, all these men are still with Buhari. Thunder fire una..

dykedarlyn:
Time for Fayose to start trending again; but on a serious note, I don’t think this guys are being fair to the likes of Fayose and Wike who stood by pdp all this years

U want them to hand over the presidential ticket to someone who can not give Buhari a serious fight? Why were they trying to support an unpopular candidate?

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RockHard:
I am only saying that Atiku has the SE bloc vote on lock down, so why not strategically give the VP slot to a zone where it will have more impact? It is only common sense, no sentiments.

The truth is no matter Atiku does, he will never win south west because Tibunu is there. Except Tinubu supports him..

What he can do is find a way to get up to 40%votes from south west and see how to woo east and south south to give him a combine votes more than 10 million which is possible.

Then he gets middle belts and share northern votes..

If he gives the west VP he will still get around 50% of the votes in the region due to Tinubu and the current VP matter. Doing this, Atiku will not win south west still and the voting apathy among the easterners will reduce his votes drastically.

He will lose the election like that..

smirn:
Here in Nairaland?

No, on my facebook. That has been my selling point for Atiku.

I dont like Atiku but he is far better than Buhari. That man called Buhari seems like a man who has good intentions but his ethnic sentiment usually make others easily control him.

hucienda:
Na wa o

You sure say Atiku no even get undercover supporters so for dis Buhari government waiting in the wings? You know not all can be brave like 'Mama Taraba' and come out in the open.

this was exactly what I said previously. Atiku is a strong politician. he has the capacity to influence Buhari men to even betray him.

CROWNWEALTH019:
There’s no Nigerian supporting Buhari for re-election except a few PAID people. They are not even up to 5%. How can any Nigerian support Buhari after all the bloodshed, stealing, corruption, incompetence & poverty in the nation?

Bloodshed everywhere. Herdsmen, Bandits, etc.

U are very right bro.. The only people support Buhari is thru rigging and vote buying..

I have been to some south west states, the way market people dey vex if i mention Buhari name, i begin to wonder who then voted and support him in south west for instance. The woman I usually buy native drugs from once Im around Ibadan, she complains bitter about Buhari. So one day, when I visited her shop to buy some local herbs, I started Buhari topic, the way the guy who cuts hair there, the local people who sat in the woman's shop, the okade men there, the way they attacked me when I said Buhari will win the next election. I was shocked. I said, 'no be una voted Buhar before?' They screamed No oo.. The issue is, Tinubu them will buy votes and lie to their people to vote for Buhari. Baba, they no dey tell person, Buhari regime has been difficult bro.

talk2emma:
If no be Igbo man nobody fit do am..

If u check my posts, u will know that I am an igbo person..

Why can't he build this stuff in the east? Igbo business men tire me. They keep making Lagos more attractive.. It doesn't make sense to me..

AutoSpaNg:
PDP gave us Atiku, how wonderful. now even those that do not like Buhari will vote Buhari

How some of u just sit down and think u can calculate how people will vote amazes me..

How sure are u that those who didn't like Buhari will vote for him now? Like u are very sure that all those who didn't like Buhari will vote for him becus of Atiku?

Na wa o. And u also didnt know that some people will vote for pdp becus of Atiku?

Pls no one knows tomorrow.. So forget all these sensational talks..

senatordave1:
Like i said earlier,the ss/se people are very educated and not zombies or robots that will always vote one way for one party.there a lot of liberals and non partisan voters than detest pdp.no matter what,they will vote less for atiku than they did for gej and vote more for buhari.in other to safeguard their 2023 interests in case apc wins,they need to vote the way the south west did in 2015.

Naa.. South east and south south have no place in APC 2023 o. The grand plan is for the current VP or Tinubu to run while someone from the north serves as VP.

livelymatilda22:
Most igbos won't vote come 2019 because their biafran leader nnamdi kanu asked them not to, until they get referendum..

Hope you haven't forgotten that..

That has always been my point that the Atiku team needs to find a way to kill the political apathy among the igbos.. That is his best option now..

Becus he can't win west. Tibunu is there. Be can get up to 40-49% of south west. He just needs to get at least 10million votes or more from both south south and east..

That is possible if he picks a VP who has the appeal of both south south and east..

If he picks vp from west, he will lose becus he can never win west as long as Tibunu is still alive..

MrJanuzaj:
Oga i am an igbo person, (if u like disagree like some of u here) . But the way igbos voice are louder for Atiku which is clearly as a result of hate for PMB. Even Atikus state Adamawa will vote against him. Igbos are known to be the highest "insulters" of the North. Anybody they support clearly, will most likely lose as Yoruba and Core north will vote in the opposite direction and these 2 are more in number. If you like believe me if you like dont na una sabi.

It does not mean.. so Igbos should simply keep quiet for una sake?

My brother, election is win or lose. E no mean, allow them support who they want to support. If the person wins, fine, if he doesnt, fine.

I dont get it. Until igbos turn slaves and be licking una yansh before una go get peace abi? Pls, Those who hated Trump in America are still hating on him till now, that is the beauty of democracy.

Allow the igbos who love and hate PMB do so in peace pls.

MrJanuzaj:
Igbos this, Igbos that. If you guys make this elections about Buhari vs An Igbo candidate ( Atiku) . Be rest assured that Atiku will lose that elections before noon.

My brother, no body is making it igbo vs Buhari.. I am already tired of some of u.

U don't want igbos to talk abi? Only una go mock igbos, only una go still don't want them to defend them selves..

It doenst make sense. U guys were laughing igbos from the statistics published.. And u don't want then to defend them selves..

The point is the 2019 election will not be like 2015. In 2015, people saw Buhari as the savior. But now, at least half of the people who voted for him no longer sew that in him..

I don't know why anything igbos dey pain some of u for nairaland. The igbos here are only trying to defend their identity..

For peace to rain on nairaland, make igbos just accept that they don't have electoral value abi?

Pls allow these guys have peace.. Haba, in 2915 u guys chose Buhari and u guys are angry igbos are choosing another person..

There was serious political apathy in 2015 among the igbos. That is what they should work on simple..

PaChukwudi44:
It is not the same as number of eligible voters by ethnicity. We all know a sizeable number of voters in some regions belong to non-indigenes

This is what they don't understand. I just dey pity most Nigerians, they are petty. Look at Lagos for instance with millions of Mon indigenes..

BabaRamota1980:
With these figures the odds is stacked against Atiku. Look at Lagos and Oyo population, both APC owned. Compare to SE, Atiku's only stronghold.

Sorry bro, Lagos has high population of Non indigenes..

There are over 2 million igbos outside the east..

Atiku will match Buhari bro.. Atiku has strong northerners backing him..

senatordave1:
They cant work on it except their son is contesting.the thoughts of two northerners contesting is dampening enough and uninspiring.they can get 7 million in ss if card reader is abolished.

Na just find way to claim the reader spoilt. I know these guys..

Something can still be done about political apathy if he works well in selecting his VP and work with political heavy weights from those two regions.. Becus he can't win south west lie lie.. No matter what except Tinubu backs him..

senatordave1:
Under gej,gej had 7 million votes from ss/se.with no incidence forms and him being a northerner,not more than 5 million will come out.in the ne/nw,12.5 million came out in 2015.expect same number.

Did hear what I said about political apathy from easterners? That is what any serious person should work on.

In fact the two regions have political apathy. They must try and kill that. They can get up to 7million alone from south south..

naijaking1:
Tribalism will not even let you see reason.
Tribe, tribe, and more tribe is all you see.
Luckily, Atiku is probably smarter than people like you.
Choosing a strong SW politician is not because there no Igbos that qualify, but because it will solidly serve to neutralize Osinbanjo and Tinubu.

The truth of the matter is Atiku is in a difficult river now.. If he chooses SW for VP, he will still not win south west. He will only share the votes with APC and APC will get up to 55% of the votes there. He will lose some northern states but may get up to 45-50% votes from north..

Now, if he makes the mistake to choose from south west, he will lose the igbo votes. Remember the igbos are not just in south east o. There are more than 6 million igbos living outside the south east who are in west, south south and north.

The best for Atiku is to carry someone who has the strong appeal of both south south and south east because that is his strongest zones for now since he is already a northerner..

I am just being factual. There is nothing pdp can do to win south west now since Tinubu and the current VP are there. The best thing is for pdp to find a way to entice the igbos and south south people any where they are to come out and vote. The problem is not that igbos don't have voting power. They do but there is high level of voting apathy. Pdp must find a way to kill that voting apathy by getting someone who has strong appeal among the people of east and south south.

Atiku by his personality will get votes from north. He has the backing of some northern leaders, kings and retired general. That is enough for him. All he needs is get a strong politician from kano to get him good percentage of the votes. Though he will not win kano.

Atiku has the influence to get good percentage of votes from north. He can never win west, lie lie. No matter what he does.

He should retain OGD as his campaign manager and offer to give him juicy position if he wins. That alone plus some influential politicians from that zone can help gather at least between 45%-49% of the votes from south west.

His hope now to ever stand any chance to win Buhari is to between 10 to 14 million votes from the people in south east and south south. If he can get someone who has the appeal of easterners and south south people and politicians.. Maybe someone with both east and south south identity, he can pull such votes there. South south can give him up to 7 million votes if properly rigged. East can pull between 4 to 5.5 million too, if added to easterners in wes, south south and north, he can get additional 1.2 million. This is his best action if u ask me.

If he thinks getting south west person will make him get enough votes there, he will be shooting him self becus easterners will not vote APC, yes but will apply political apathy and that will reduce his chances of winning badly..

He already has OGD as his campaign manager. That was all Amaechi needed to get some votes for Buhari.

Atiku needs to be wise o. Wike is fine just that he is rude and some politicians may not rig election for him.

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let see how atiku will break even in the north because that's where the determine factors on who will win the 2019 election will cone from

My brother every region matters o. If Atiku likes let him win north, if he doesn't win other regions, he can't win the election..

Buhari contested three times and lost until Tibunu helped him win south west

OldBeer:

See how this one is frothing at the mouth.

FYI I am from SS and know that a choice from your region is a capital failure.
You people have NO POLITICAL VALUE!

Atiku jare, SS or SW o!
Forget those confused people before you doom yourself.

I just dey pity for some analysis.. See bro, no region is a walk over okay. Stop the nonsense mockery.

Now, of Atiku gets the votes from south south and south west, while east decides to vote for Buhari, Buhari will win since he will win northern states.

So any wise politician will not reason like u..

Also, Atiku giving the vp to west will never make him win west because Tinubu runs west and Tinubu eyes is on 2023. Nothing can make Tinubu support Atiku in 2019. So choosing vp from west is a bad political choice..

Finally, hope u know there are millions of easterners in south south, south west, and in the north..
. hope u know igbos are the highest traveling people in nigeria. The only issue with easterners is political apathy.. That is what Atiku needs to deal with.

For Atiku to win, he will need to share the votes from north wit Buhari, share the votes with Buhari in west, make sure he wins middle belt and make sure he attracts the massive votes from south south and east...

If u think if he chooses south south and west and ignores easterners, he will lose becus westerners will surely vote more for the current VP.

Funnicator:
Yimu.


Didn't you read in the report all Ebonyi delegates voted for Atiku in the convention?

Don't mind them. Nairaland has become such a funny childplay forum.. Most of them just say things to mock south east.. In real sense, majority of them can't even stand per capital development of the people of that region.

OldBeer:
Please I am hearing rumours that Atiku is Fulani.
Is it true?

If it is true, does it mean that ______ are Fulani slaves?



Atiku if you know what is good for you, get a VP from either SW or SS.

Don't go for foreigners that have no political value o!
Good luck

Bro, Atiku getting VP from west is a waste of time becus Tinubu rules west. There is nothing Atiku can do to win west except Tibunu supports him which is impossible..

The igbos are large in number. Don't be deceived by the voters registration. Now, igbos are the highest travelers in the country. There are millions of igbos outside the south east who will vote in those regions. Millions of igbos in north, west and south south..

If he chooses his VP from west, he will still not win south west and he will then get less votes from east. He will lose then.

CilicMarin:
Don't worry, Atiku is going to be the President of Biafra...

Atiku Cannot Win Any State In South West.

Atiku Cannot Win Any State In The North West.

Atiku Cannot Win Any State In The North East.

Plus Buhari Will Win

Niger State

Edo State

Kwara State

Kogi State

Imo State

Ebonyi State.


The following states will be shared.

Delta
Akwa Ibom
Rivers State
Cross River.
Anambra

Then Atiku May Win the rest....

Hahahahha.. U can dream o. My brother, archive this comment and remind me after the election. If the election goes as u have said, make I bend.