₦airaland Forum

Yes, as long as both parties married for the right reasons, not because the guy lives in Lekki, drives a Range-Rover, and can afford to buy his babe a Blackberry phone and recharge cards.

so will "yahoo yahoo boys" change their name to "google google boys" or "facebook facebook boys?"

Beaf:
I have kept asking this simple question that you keep dodging.
You will find wisdom, if only you would take time to answer it. . .

Like I asked you previously. . . If you have a car, but wish to fly, do you "improve" your car or do you buy an aeroplane?
. . .I guess fools would say both move, so "improve" the car.

Quit comparing apples to oranges. If I have a car and I need to fly, of course I will buy an aeroplane. But if I have a car, and I need to drive, I will not buy another car, nor will I buy an aeroplane.
Here, the fed govt does not need to fly, so they do not need to buy an aeroplane. All they need to do is drive, and a car exists, so there is even no need to buy another car. All they have to do is access the databases of the states.

Beaf:
This is foolish at best. Do you know the structure of the database? Do you know if it is distributed? You just wanna say something no matter how puerile to support a primitive argument.

As for states updating it. Do we now have state police, so why yarning dust?

You are an Ediot . Do we need state police to register vehicles? Ediot. Dept. of motor vehicles can register cars.

You have agreed that the states already have the database into which motor vehicle information is entered. So why create another database consisting of entirely the same thing?

Quit the ad hominem attach and make a reasoned argument that challenges the veracity of mine. Mukaila.

Kobojunkie:
WELCOME TO NIGERIA~~ But the moving of data IS an assumption here considering there is no guarantee this database will get much use, like the many before it.

It is just a project through which some high ranking PDP officials will siphon money out of the treasury. Ask GEJ how much it will cost for the database. I bet you GEJ will claim the project will cost $200m.

Some people cannot understand this simple concepts.

You don't need to consolidate multiple databases into one centralized database in order to access the multiple databases from a remote location; you can access multiple databases from multiple locations. To consolidate them is redundant, especially when the multiple databases need to be updated in real time and the entity that controls the centralized database is not in a better situation to update each multiple database. States are better positioned to update the multiple databases.

The fact that a database is accessible in one location does not mean that the server that hosts the database has to be based in the location.

Redundancy impedes growth and is not good for society.

Beaf:
My attack wasn't meant to reason with you. What on Earth made you think it was?
I read your post and was totally disgusted and ashamed, because foreigners use NL too. I don't want them thinking Nigerians are id!ots.

For your own good, if you don't know something, wisdom says to keep shtum.

I am not saying you are trying to reason with me; you are not on my level. My point is that you have criticized me personally without raising a single point of your own or offer countervailing arguments. That shows shhmart you are. You can take a man out of the village, but you cannot take the village out of the man. SMH.

violent:
Isn't it a lot more efficient to access one database for information  than access  36?

A state managed database would mean people that are interested in accessing information would rely on local servers, what happens in a case where lagos workers are on strike and the server in lagos was shut down? should that impede the capacity of other officials nationwide to access information?. . .How about if there is no "light" to power up the server in Kano?  

If the importance of a state owned database is the fact that it allows for easy management, i see no reason why his cannot be achieved with a global database as all you require is input from state officials to a central server which is managed by a central IT group.

An illustration of this is better provided with the workings of the corporate world.  Companies with hundreds of branches spread all over are more efficient in transmitting information around simply because they manage a central database.

You don't understand how databases work. Just because Lagos has a database does not mean that it has to be hosted in Lagos. Most database companies have backup systems or backup energy sources in the event of a power outage.

And applying your rationale, don't you think that centralizing the database is more dangerous? What if power fails in Abuja, it means that the entire system will shut down. This has been an issue with Nigeria, where everything is centralized: PHCN, Nigeria police force, etc. In the event that the central entity fails, the entire country shuts down. I would rather take my chance with having multiple database from different states than the risk of one centralized source.

Beaf:
I would be thoroughly ashamed to show this post to a toddler. I wonder if some people post, not out of knowledge or any sort of intelligence, but simply because they can type? Its disgraceful.
Why is the default response of many "educated" Nigerians an emission of loud rubbish that makes little sense? Believe me, nobody looks kindly on a person who dissents loudly for the sake of the loudness of the noise they make.

Nigeria's real problem is citizen culture and awareness, not any of the things we beat to death like corruption and underdevelopment. If a countries citizenry is mentally wretched, that country is headed for the lagoon. How do you help or develop people that refuse to be helped or developed?

And you think your ad hominem attack, which is devoid of any reasoning, is worthy of being shown to a toddler? It is tragedy when a fool thinks the wise person is the fool, or when the insane thinks the sane is the insane. Go see a pastor.

violent:
I understand that an explanation has been provided by @ chines4 on vehicle registration, but as an asides, i'd like to address a few things in your notes.

First, there are 36 states in Nigeria, and for the exercise to make any sense at all, what you need is a global database and the ownership of that can only be claimed by the federal government not individual states. A global database will ensure that the officers on the streets of Zamfara can simply access information about a vehicle registered anywhere in Nigeria and so also will first aiders in Ebonyi.

Secondly, you don't have to fax pre-existing data to Abuja, all you need to do is to merge existing database with the global one such that all data becomes consolidated and not individually segmented.  A vehicle registration officer in Lagos can simply log in to the global database and supply new information on any vehicle, this becomes immediately available to every other accredited official nationwide.  

Asides from where you mentioned that each states are responsible for registering individual cars, you are yet to highlight the importance of state owned database over a global one.  However, it is important to also note that having a federal database DOES not take away the state's responsibility for car registration, they simply have to feed the data collected into a global database, it's probably going to take the official involved a couple of minutes to get the job done!

the importance of a state-owned database over a federal one is that the state is better situated to manage and update the database. And if each state has its own database it is pointless to create a federal database. All each state needs to do is provide an administrative password for sister states so that an officer in another state can verify the registration.

Why create another federal database when each state can maintain its own database that would be accessible by any federal officer? You are erroneously assuming that a federal database needs to be created, or that 36 states need to merge their database to one federal database, before each state's database is accessible globally.

Even anyone can access Nairaland from any part of the globe. My point is that it makes no sense. All that is needed is that each state can provide administrative access to its respective database rather than updating its database and merging the same info into a federal database. it is redundant and a waste of money

violent:
 A vehicle registration officer in Lagos can simply log in to the global database and supply new information on any vehicle, this becomes immediately available to every other accredited official nationwide.  

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That accredited official in another part can simply access Lagos's database to verify a registration information. Another global database does not need to be created to achieve this simple function.

violent:
I disagree with this.  

The principal objective of having a vehicle database in the first place is to enable approved government officials to track vehicle ownership anywhere within the boundaries of Nigeria, otherwise what would be the point of a database if vehicles registered in Lagos cannot be tracked in Gombe?

The state can assist the federal government in registration of vehicles and maintenance of the database, but it's ownership should ultimately be federal.  Governmental agents such as the Federal Road Saftey, shouldn't have to go though the balls of the state to obtain important information.  If there's been an accident in Abuja and the vehicle involved was registered in Ogun, first aiders ought to have systems that would provide them with the contact information of vehicle owners or their relatives within minutes.

I beg to differ with you sir. States should be the ones implementing the database, because if each state does not have a pre-existing database, how is it possible for the federal government to keep track of vehicles registered in each state? Will Abuja ask each state to fax preexisting data of registered cars and new cars that are registered? As we speak, each state is responsible for registering vehicles of its residents. The federal database is therefore technically useless, because if each state has a database, all the FG needs is access to the database. That is how it is done in countries where their leaders use their brain cells. Bottom line is that this federal database cannot work as a practical matter without each state creating its own database, and if each state has its own database, all the feds need is administrative access to the database to verify a car registration if need be.

manny4life:
Just my thought;

Powers not delegated to the federal govt by the Nigerian Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively and or to the people.

If the federal govt follows this rule, FG WILL NOT be overstepping its authority. More so, states are so confused that they don't even know the powers delegated to them. If I was a state gov. ain't no telling what will happen next, I will ask the court to exempt my state from this treachery

Hopefully someone challenges this database scheme in Court, and hopefully the judges who will hear the case can read and have the apt to understand the Constitution. The examination malpractice rate in Nigeria makes it possible to have judges who are not qualified for the office they hold. That is why nothing works in Nigeria, because both our fed and state govt. apparently do not know their roles.

This database is another ruse for someone to chop money. If you inquire into the project, the contract was probably awarded to some IT consulting firm for $50m, the IT firm will make some useless database that a computer geek in an American high school can build, and the project will be abandoned in two years.

This database is stupidity at its finest. This is why we need true federalism in Nigeria, as the federal government of Nigeria apparently does not know its roles and all to often invades the territory that is traditionally reserved for the states.

Vehicle registration is a state function, so why in the hell will the FG launch a database to monitor vehicles registered by states? Why should the FG care about state vehicle registration? It is not practical for the FG to monitor all the vehicle in each state.

The FG should make a database for its citizens, immigrants, and secure our borders. The FG should deregulate the power sector and worry about fixing federal roads, federal airports, passports, visas, and so on. The passport office probably does not have a database of passport holders.

This okrika mentality sef

mendax:
dont nigerian journalists know the difference between aliens and foreign Nationals? or were they deported back to another planet?

I didn't know that there were so many illiterates on Nairaland. I laugh when a know-it-all someone makes a fool of himself by attempting to correct what he thinks is the mistake of another. It is also funny that that person is trying to make himself look smart but is actually dumb as hell, especially when that person understand the message that was being conveyed but insists on correcting it just to make himself look smart.

Ileke-IdI:
[size=38pt]Why is almost everybody fat?[/size]

Iyan, akamu, amala, fufu, lafun, semovita, eba,

guinness (odeku), gulder, harp, star, 33 lager

bokoto (cowleg), cow head, saki, edo, fuku, goat head, goat feet, goat nyansh, cow nyansh, ponmo--orisirisi

It looks like this project is being managed by the state government, which I do not support. Government has no business in agriculture production. Government should empower the private sector--farmers, entrepreneurs, etc--to engage in mechanized farming. History has shown that all these "government projects" are not sustainable, and I will not support a project that is not sustainable.

This project is straight BS and is nothing more than a band aid project. My 2 cents.

Frazy:
Getting older doesn't sound so bad at this point---right now, I'm 20something, broke, buried in student debt, trying to navigate relationships and life and work and politics and all sorts of complicated crap. It makes me feel ignorant, lost. If I were older, I'd have experience to draw on, know more people I might be able to ask for help or guidance, have younger people to teach the lessons I've already learned, and that all sounds good.

[b]
Saggy bosoms [/b]do scare me though.

what about saggy booobies?

The Blessed

This Napoleon Complex that you are suffering from is the issue. Why do you think you have to use colored, bold, excessively large fonts to communicate your idea? You think your idea won't come across if you use regular fonts? It is so annoying.