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SNCOQ3:
some people here don tribalize tall buildings again, nawa

this is NL. people here will tribalize every erything

At least you won't have to worry about buying her Blackiberri Curuvu or Blackiberri Boludu and recharge cards to make her happy; she will probably recognize your potential and love you regardless of your financial condition, and will less likely leave you for an Alhaji, a Chief, or an  Otunba who buys her with money.

As an expert in these type of cases, let me give you your prognosis:

First make sure this is not puppy love ooooooooooo! I diagnose you with the either of the following problems: puppy love; new-found-freedom love; first-time-chopping-oyinbo-punny love.

Second make sure you are not infatuated by white punny; you may have been smitten by her because this is your first time chopping white punny and you are already saying you want to spend the rest of your life with her.

Also make sure you chop other girls just to make sure this is what you want; you are only 22, and it is a travesty that you already claim to know that this oyinbo girl is the one. Are you serious? You need to face your education and phuck as many punny as possible: oyinbo, jamo, black, Naija, Libe, Germani, and all the like. Wear your condom, sha oooooo! If you don't, you will be back here on NL starting a thread about catching something you can't get rid off from, say, a Libe or an Oyinbo girl. Once you start working and making some money, you will have an idea of the type of girl you like.

Be wary of the advice posted on this forum from many NL females who have no idea what it's like to be a man, esp a young man who is living overseas. They will advise you based on their emotional reaction and long throat.

He who has ears, the elders say, let him hear.

adexchamp:
One girl texted me and asked me for recharge card for her MTN BIS,imagin ooh but as as a sharp guy na him i scratch my head for numbers and sent her 2 different nos for 1,500 each for MTN.After few mins she text back that the cards no dey enter but i ignore the text message but few mins after she called me na him i provoke,i come rake for her say why she go dey beg me for card abu na me born her niii?? Its kinda funny and i felt so bad for that kind of character,

no mind her, jare. she think sey you be d maga. Make she go buy recharge card wit her fada moni

lefulefu

you are something else

roflmfao

otokx:
you know if it i was working it would have been different, if i was in your place and you in mine i'd have giving you.

good one

ebonyvibe:
trust me i still say you roll with cheap girls cos a good girl will be able to take care of herself and if not she will go to her parents house not just one man that wants to get into her pants and she wants him to indirectly pay for the previlegde

I see that from your comments you appear to be a good girl who has morals, just the type of girl I am looking for. You go girl.

ebonyvibe:
@ prince atleast you hear the request in a better way and feel less like a maga

asking me for dough does not make me feel like a maga, dear; the girls see and smell the money but never touch it. and if she is my lady, as in we are in a serious, committed relationship and she is deserving of it, she does not have to ask me before I shower her with riches.

but for those thirsty chicks who are looking for a quick recharge card or blackberry, God forbid I waste my money on them. Tofiakwa. If she is hungry and starving, I will buy her food and water, though, because I do not like to starve another hungry human being.

BABE!:
Sweetness, you need an upgrade-upgrade. 


LOL  --- See confession! See the kind of girls you roll with?! Partially educated Gala sellers? -- Eya, E go better. Take heart.

PS: I assumed you were talking about your babes. If you weren't, ignore my comment.

nah! I did not hear it from the girls I roll with. information and knowledge can be acquired from sources other than personal experience.

ebonyvibe:
@ princek12 you need to upgrade the kind of girls you go out with

some of the so called upgraded ones still ask for money, although they may ask for it in a more "Behind" way. either way, the message is the same, difference being semantics.

Guys, we know how low these girls will stoop when begging for money! They usually start by telling you all their problems from the day one. Please share some of the lines you have heard from girls while begging for money. For example, how she may say, I need a recharge card because I cannot talk to you if you don't buy me one; I want to hummmma hummma; or you know my gurfrend has Brackiberri and me sef wan Brackiberri--the one that is curuvu (she wants to say Blackberry Curve). Or she can say can you buy me buredi and meat (she wants to say hamburger) because I am hungry. Or she will say can you buy makarioni (she meant macaroni).

Oya, guys, share your story. Nack us your tori ooooooooo.

waladis:
Oopss, I thought I was the only with this opinion.

No. That writing was pure garbage.

agnesefe:
On trial here is society, of which the family is ground and, our implicit complicity in its near demise. If anything that is worth observing, it is the uninhibited urge for primitive accumulation and the coarse interplay that works its way in the quest for the material. It may not be completely divorced from the morass and inner battles that count for today’s reality. On the one hand is a new world order-capitalism, individualism, feminism and its rabid compliment, misogynism, etc., - whose comprehension remains largely fickle and the other, is screaming silence from tested tradition. It’s a world of living contradictions, both in the messages preached and the reality on the battle ground.

The present scape is tilted towards the material, as largely vented in the humor and space that is given to winners of the grabbing game. The male often sets the direction in the larger space with actions that set the female, as always, into the overdrive with modulated versions of the former. Hence what is found as a conquest for the male, in the nature of trophies and their accumulation, evokes reactionary imitation in a domain they evidently wheel- amorous associations or “relationships”.

The task here is to rescue the family, which sadly both genders have imperiled, from the avarice that has characterized the definition of success and attainment. The restoration of in-house community, with self-check on the origins of possessions  and, the re-invention of deadened moral inhibitions and self-worth, are sure routes to salvaging, if any, what remains of society, else, we unwittingly may have signed off an age and clime.

I agree with your write up. I want to, however, advice you on a problem that is replete in the writings of many Nigerians: pompous and verbose writings--aka the use of unnecessary "big words" when writing.  The use of "big words" does not make you sound intelligent, especially when, as in your writing, the use of "big words" are so unnecessary and out of place to the extent that it distorts the meaning of your writing and renders it incomprehensible. You should focus more on grammar and clear communication so that the intended reader can clearly understand your message. Trust me, it won't make you look less intelligent.

pray for what?

I will at least give him the benefit of the doubt if GEJ wants to pray about a project he has unsuccessfully tried to accomplish, and he his specific about his prayers--that, for example, Yemoja should send lightning to strike down all those in his way, including all the corrupt people in his cabinet.

Right now, we need no more prayers in that country; all we need is action. We have overdosed on prayer in that useless country.

On the other hand, I will support the following prayer points:

that all those who have embezzled from Nigerian treasury previously should die a premature death;
that all those who are currently embezzling should die immediately;
and so on.

coogar:
i have no doubt that there are plenty of women with sense and values. matter of fact, you get to meet those type more often than not. the point is even if you have 10% gold-digging babes prowling around - one would still feel they are too many.

the same guys that come here to complain will continue to spend in real life because they have to. if they don't, they are never gonna get to their promised land! naija boys use what they have to get what they want.

i was being charitable.

The issue for me is not the amount of women who are gold-digging, but the number of women who feel they are compelled to unconditionally support the gold-digging women, even when those gold-digging women are acting inappropriately. When topics about how men are irresponsible or how they neglect their families are being opened, or how men violate innocent girls or beat their wives, most men collectively condemn such irresponsible behavior displayed by the irresponsible men. But when a thread addressing the materialistic  behavior of some Naija women is opened, rather than condemn such irresponsible behavior, most women here on NL either attack the poster, blame the men who voice their concerns, or support the gold-diggers. That leads me to conclude that most women here share the same gold-digging views.

temiade:
@OP. I am a girl, and I absolutely agree with you.
I have just returned into the country myself, and the girls have been
absolutely ridiculous.
I dont understand why these girls have no class and dignity.
It is ok to expect things from a guy who claims to love you but it is classless
to actually demand it. Let the guy show you he cares and do this on his own
terms.
Anyway, i recently dated some so called rich naija guy and he was d most unromantic person i had ever met  -
he was borderline cold and mean, I told him I was no longer interested after 4 months into the relationship,
in his eyes I have missed out on a good life (which he outrightly told me). Well, if u ask me, that was one of
the best decisions I ever made in my life - I dont need someone to cloth me, feed me and treat me like a kid.
I  wish more naija girls would stand up for themselves and stop waiting for a man to meet their needs.
That is y many of these girls feel stuck in marriage in the future, dey have fully depended on a guy (atleast more than 50% dependent)

Good points. What is particularly disturbing is that anytime I go to Nigeria, I notice that many young girls do not date guys in their age range and with whom they share common interests; rather, they date these rich, older men with whom they are incompatible and share no common interests just because these older men can supposedly provide them with the good life. Very sad that these women could have found a guy they like and have fun with to build a life together, even if the guy is not rich at the moment.

BABE!:
By "submitting" to the Maga, and coming back on NL to cry? #Justsaying.

Amen.

what do you mean by "submitting to the maga?" Is the maga the demanding, materialistic girl, and the guy submits to her? Educate me.

There you go again attacking the person--you said that he comes back on NL to cry. You have not surprised me, very typical.

emofine:
Same old same old . . . another day another thread dedicated to the flaws of the irresolvable Nigerian woman . . . kai! I never knew lefulefu don born all him sons reach already. . .so we no get only one lefulefu for town again . .chai

There is no smoke without fire, and the fact that so many Naija men are voicing their concerns about Nigerian girls' insane desire for material things signal that their concerns have some credence. It also interesting that most, if not all, Naija women feign ignorance to the materialistic attitude of their fellow Naija women, only to attack the poster and other Naija men who criticize the materialistic behavior of Naija women. Many Naija women resort to saying that, for example, all Naija women are not like that (note: even if 70% of Naija women are like that, it is too many).

I am not saying that all Naija women are materialistic (in fact, there is nothing absolute on earth), but it appears that many Naija women are now evolving into believing that a man has to pay for their love and company, and that a man who either cannot afford to pay for it or who refuses to pay for it is not worthy of a man. This is prostitution, at least, and men should vehemently condemn such behavior. Overall, according to all these posts complaining about the incessant demand for material things by Naija women, it appears that a majority Naija woman are for sale. May the Lord deliver that nation.

GEJ appears to have an extreme form of Attention Deficit Disorder; he cannot seem to concentrate and resolve one issue before dabbling in 50 other issues. End result, nothing gets done, and we are back to square one.

This story makes no sense to me. Irrespective of the physical condition of the building, is the author saying that former residents or the owners of the building actually abandoned a building like this in Lagos? I doubt if anyone will ever abandon any apartment complex in Lagos. It just does not sound plausible.

lefulefu

God pass the devil and d temptation

@ OP: become materialistic. you will have a lot in common with them.

gleyo, how many languages can you speak fluently?

globexl:
Actually, you say you disagree, yet you agree.  i blow as much pidgin english as you do. there is no way any parent can prevent exposure to it in Nija. Exposure to it is not a problem. Parents discourage their young teens from Being Intimate, but the teens will do it anyway. The parents do it to higlite and impress upon the teens, the dangers and risks of Being Intimate, because  they are mainly concerned with the welfare of the kids.
I dont know where u live ,but most kids in Ajegunle and other areas of Lagos, learn and speak pidgin as their first language. That in my opinion, is detrimental.
I live in Lagos, and as far as I am concerend, the widespread use of pidgin english might very well be corrolated with the uncivilised and beast-like behaviour of most of the residents. LOL.
I Know that might be going too far.
Languages have character.
For example, English is rich and logical, French is said to be romantic and friendly, as does spanish, german is said to be straight and efficient, Yoruba is said to be rich, etc. The languages reflect the characters,strenghts or weaknesses of their respective peoples.
On the other hand,
Black American english reflect struggle,hope and a lot of anger. Jamaican english,Patua, reflect deep anger and resentment.Our pidgin english reflect ignorance, confusion and patch patch mentality.

We are not advocating that you teach your children pidgin as their primary language, but that you do not forbid them from speaking it when they are placed in a position to do so. How hard is that to understand. They should be taught the standard English in school and taught their native tongue at home, and let the streets teach them the remainder--which is pidgin English.

The inability to speak pidgin English shows that the child is probably a butter who is unexposed to the streets and cannot speak their lingo. Such child will not be able to cope with life on the mean streets of Naija.

pro01:
Even if I'm worth a billion dollars, God forbids that I raise my children as 'bolo' mumus without street smarts. As long as they'll live in Nigeria at any point in time during their adulthood, it is a CRITICAL NECESSITY for them to learn how to not only speak what the masses largely understand (i.e. Pidgin), but also to possess elements of street wisdom and 'street charm' - which are necessarily intertwined with an understanding of the definitive lingo (i.e. Pidgin) of the vulgar majority. All this fake, pretentious 'aje butter'  nonsense would definitely make a person a soft target in the mean streets of Naija. My children would certainly not be anything remotely close to the stereotypical aje butter mumus that are terribly detached - largely by affectation and delusion of sophistication - from everyday reality.

It would help if I send them to the sort of secondary school I went to - any of the military owned schools such as Command Sec School, Airforce or Navy. Such schools - with the mixture of upper, middle and lower class students - have a way of toughening children and balancing their perspective.

Bottomline: Pidgin English is a MUST for my kids; if my native-level fluency in pidgin hasn't diminished my fluency in English, then I don't see how it would negatively affect my kids'.

+7! GBAM!

You deserve a round of applause for your brilliant write up.

Please tell all these people who want to raise their kids like the "butter" kids who cannot speak the street language--pidgin--and are therefore ill-equipped to deal with life on the mean streets of Naija. I am also a product of Command Secondary School, where we studied with kids from all walks of life, both rich and poor. We were both academically smart and street smart.

globexl:
Your argument is good, except that I dont know what you disagree with . Are disagreeing wth the scientific studies on this subject or are you disagree with my own opinions.
That you spoke pidgen english and did ok in your acedemic persuits does not justify the use of pidgin english by children. I spoke pidgin english when I was in secondary too. I was mature enough and exposed enough, being well gounded in english,to adapt.
You agree that you understood it to be a slang. That is my point. Should you ground your young child's language skills on slangs? The question here is whether it may be harmful to a child's intellectual development. I say yes it can, based on the scientific studies on the effects of language on intellectual development.

I disagree with both your opinions and any purported scientific study that may exist. By the way, can you direct me to the scientific study so that I can read their literature for myself? Except the child has a learning disorder, any child who is not being formally taught to speak pidgin English will understand it as a slang.

Pidgin may dilute the child's intellectual development if it is being spoken at home and at school, or if the child is taught with pidgin English. I have not advocated for either. What I have said is that as the child grows up, if he or she is being minimally exposed to pidgin English in limited circumstances, then that child will not think of the language as formal. An absolute bar is not necessary. Environment and exposure dictates learning, so if your child is exposed to market traders, many of whom speak pidgin English, your child will naturally learn that language anyway.

You are advocating for an absolute bar, which means that in order to effectively prevent your child from learning pidgin English, you will have to not only prohibit your child from speaking it, but you would also have to shield your child from environments where pidgin English is spoken. This will, I argue, dilute your child's exposure to all the facets of his or her culture, of which pidgin English is a part. Balance is key.

Make you take am easy oooo. E no serious. Pidgin no go comot the brain wey your pikin get. (Does this make me sound less smart?)

promire2004:
yeah, u're right. One fact about us (nigerians) is that we are just wannabes. We want to speak, dress, walk and act like the western world, and in a bid to achieving this, we tend to abandon some of our values. Surprisingly, most of these foreign expatriates here in 9ja dig our much despised "wafarian pidgin english" swag, by communicating with it. They even go about exploring our delicacies. (for example, owo and starch). Sounds weird and ridiculous but it is just the fact.

I am right about what? What do you mean? Anyway, I agree with you that our pidgin English is the envy of many countries.

globexl:
I partly agree with you.
But must understand that as parents, it is necessary to forbid kids from doing certain things , otherwise they would asume such to be the norm.
Children are easily influenced by their environments. They would most likely show a preference for the use of pidgin english simply because, pidgin english follows no rules and requires no discipline in its grammer. While it is inevitable that they would come into contact with pidgin english, it would be an easy way out for a lazy minded child ,if the parents do not take strong stand against it.

I completely disagree with you. Or perhaps, I guess I must be from a different planet, then. I grew up concurrently learning Yoruba at home, learning English in school, and learning pidgin on the street. I speak all three fluently, and I understood the rules of grammar perfectly. As a child, I quickly learned to separate and not confuse the languages, for I thought of pidgin as a slang and thought of standard English as formal. I went on to study chemistry and law from a top university in the United States and did well in arguments. I got good grades both in my undergraduate studies and graduate studies. In addition to pidgin English, I speak and write English and Yoruba fluently, and I am currently writing a book, to be published simultaneously in Yoruba and English. Exposure is the key, my friend.

globexl:
I did not imply such. I just stated what has been scientifically observed :that a language that is complex and rich in vocabulary(English,French, Yoruba etc) is much better for a child's intellectual development than a language that is broken down or fragmented(PIDGIN english or Patwa).

True. But I don't think that the parents have to speak pidgin English to the child or teach the child pidgin English, as pidgin English is not a formal language that requires tutoring. I think that the child should learn his or her native language at home and take it as an elective in school at the appropriate time, learn standard English in school, and learn pidgin English by associating with people on the streets or through other informal means. I don't think it is necessary to forbid the child from speaking pidgin English under all circumstances.

Siena:
I was waiting for the abuse, and you didn't let me down.

I guess you have nothing else to say. You started with the ad hominem reasoning--the personal attack-- saying I write like I was a confused being. You let me down, first, so you got a dose of your own medicine.

I guess your statement shows that you have nothing else of substance to say in response to what I said, so rather than admit the flaws in your reasoning, that it is black and white form of reasoning, you switch to another type of reasoning flaw--avoiding the subject.

You are so typical, as in you start by abusing someone, but when you get a response that exposes the flaw in your reasoning and abuses you back, you cry foul and play the victim when you have nothing of substance to say. Get outta here, jare!

Siena:
You write like a confused being. Why are you embracing technology that emanated from anywhere but Nigeria? Since it makes you feel "inferior", why not stick to a horse and cart, and rely on the Bush Telegraph to communicate? Regardless of where these technologies were invented, the point remains they are not indigenous to Nigeria. Why are you therefore making use of them? By your own admission, I'm brainwashed, and have an inferiority complex.

Please, and this isn't casting aspersion on Nigeria as a nation - what is one of our notable contributions to mankind? What do we produce that would substitute to what we use today from outside Nigeria?

You are the confused being? You said that a lot of the technologies came from the West. The last time I checked, the technologies you mentioned above are used in all countries--i.e., cars, planes, etc. According to your rationale, every country on the globe that uses cars and planes should purge themselves of their native language just because they used a technology that was invented from a foreign country.

You reason like you have an okrika brain, which is probably who you are? So, for example, if the UK uses a technology from a foreign land like Japan, the UK should stop speaking English and speak Japanese; in the same vein, if the Swiss uses a technology invented by HTC, a Taiwanese company, the Swiss should let go of their language and speak Taiwanese.

You are a one-dimensional, illiterate thinker who wants to feel among or validate something by proving your allegiance to the English language. It makes you look silly.