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Igbochief001:
Ede and urban town ? ...guy why u dey lie like this na ...ede is a village

Is that what your towns look like in South West ?
There is no 100 food in South West ...but transport in ibadan was 10 naira then

Lol, you're using SE as a yardstick, but we are talking about SW here. Ede is a town in their own perspective

The SW outside Lagos region has very low purchasing power. Why do you think they live mostly in dilapidated houses all over their towns and cities?

kingzizzy:
Only barbarians destroy buildings they could confiscate and put to other uses

Some of these men parading as governors needs psychiatric evaluation.

Is this a joke or what
Sister Ifeyinwa Ugwuanyi has taken governance to ridiculous levels. I'm still trying to know between him her and Ikpeazu who is more incompetent.

Gracealone:
I have my reservations with these figures.

Arr all those boys loitering around Oshodi included in the figure of the employed?

How many of those employed are gainfully so.

Don't mind the naive ones that still believe the magic numbers NBS is churning out.

Believe Nigerian statistics at your own risk

That's their business. If they want their cashcow to remain, they know what to do. However, one thing is for sure, I don't think there would be any Igbo left that will believe in Nigeria if the oppression continues.

post=92813585:
Too early to complain, trust me on this, the Airport project, ICC and Awka millennium city all going on as planned, we don't need distractions from Sabo journalists

Thank you for your matured response. I will be very happy to see the airport and Orient refinery completed just as any Igbo man with genuine interest of Igboland at heart would want.

It's so ridiculous how an irritant and psycopath thinks Anambra belongs to him alone. Iberibe ndi nmadu.

leicestercamper:
[s]You are very stupid. You are stupid because you don't have to discuss issues you don't know about.

You obviously do not know anything about the airport project but you are bent on discussing it. It is only a mad man that dabbles into a subject he knows nothing.

There has been updates recently on this site and they all made front page, you cannot swear that you never saw them, but you will stupidly spew nonsense in a thread opened by the people you usually term enemies of igbos.

Like I said face your useless Imo state since it appears you don't know anything about the airport or you are feigning ignorance. [/s]


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Taa gbafuo gi there. Anumachobiri like you.
Well, it's better to call the attention of the mods than to join you in the gutter.

Your type shouldn't be allowed to be constituting nuisance on nairaland.

Imagine the sanity. That was before Tinubu took over and revenue meant for development are now carted away in bullion vans

leicestercamper:
[s]All you know is spewing nonsense all the time out of feigning of ignorance. You always pretend as though you are pro igbo but always stealthily throw jabs, but when you are matched to your game you dodge under the guise of being pro igbo.

I am very sure you have seen alot of updates about the airport on this site but always avoid the thread, only to jump into a propaganda thread as this to spew nonsense as usual.

Face your useless Imo state and your 419 incompetent supreme court governor, if you don't know anything about other states particularly Anambra then don't comment on it's thread.
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As an Igbo man I have every right to comment about Anambra, especially on issues that will bring development to Igboland and there is nothing you can do about it.

Every Igbo person regardless of state affiliation always comdemn the governors of Abia state for not living up to expectations without Abians attacking them, but whenever people raise issues of concern about Anambra, you will start saying nonsense.

Iwekwara ako n'uche??

[quote author=laiperi post=92808998]Igbochief,

Economics 101. You do not throw hard earned money into lower or worthless returns. But you can throw awoof money into unproductive returns.

In another words, do not throw good money after bad money.

This is why you have many unoccupied buildings in Nigeria. The Investments are from looted funds, drug money, rituals money, Abacha money, 419 and kidnappers.

Many Nigerians do all these but not all Nigeria glorify them and even brag about them. The last time, I checked, Hushppupi is a Yoruba man roundly condemned by his people even in the neighborhood he grew up in.

My brother, let us stop beating about the bush, what about tolerance and accommodation in the South East. It costs less money but heavy on attitude. [quote]Another statement borne out of ignorance. Travel out of your Hamlet for once and be informed of what goes on in other places. I can bet you that Igboland is far more hospitable than SW. You can ask some of your brothers who served in the East.

Is Lagos even accommodating? A place where a Yoruba man from Ogbomosho will tell an Igboman to go back to his village at every given opportunity, not minding that Lagos is not his own village.

If Igbos can come to your cities and outbid you in buying lands or renting good houses, then what chance do you stand in the East?

Rent in your dilapidated towns are abysmally low because the houses are mostly in bad shape and the few good ones are snapped up by the Igbos who offer to pay good rent. You can't afford to pay higher rents as is obtainable in the East. That is why you guys prefer to stay in your comfort zone than to venture outside. Yet you will go about and be nagging about us not being accommodating.

Funny people.

laiperi:
[s]Go to every part of Nigeria and ask about Igbo Economic Model which is as old or older than Nigeria.

Start from Calabar and Rivers to the West and North. This is why other political Party other than NCNC dominated Calabar, Rivers and Issac Boro remain popular in his grave.

Do you know that in the West, Yoruba used to employ Igbo before Yoruba for their hard work and loyalty?

But wait, that is until they gain control of the business.

Yoruba out of greed used to rent to Igbo that offer 3 to 5 years lease before they rent to Yoruba.

It was the last rent the landlord will ever get.

Until Yoruba and Igbo sit down and iron out disagreement and differences, we will never get anywhere.

Why must the disagreement always be about what they WANT in the West: Premier of Western Region, leader of Lagos City Council, VC of Lagos and West universities.

But never made effort or reject intolerance and lack of accommodation to attract others to their communities.

Please do not mention a community leader from the North Alstine that was promoted to Mayor posthumously but whose household was burnt down.[/s]

Bollocks!!
No sense found!!
No logic made!!!

This is gradually becoming the more you look, the less you see. Obiano must not leave office without completing that airport. Even the Orient modular refinery too, nothing is being heard about it again.

If the federal government does not build such projects in the North, it will be in Lagos or any other place but it will never be SE.

Useless good-for-nothing country. There is no single federal government agency or parastatel built anywhere in the SE but bastards will still claim there is no state sanctioned subjugation of the SE. Nigeria is such an evil country where they don't like saying the truth.

Igbochief001:
Key index rating like what ? ...show me world Bank rating then I take u serious

Lol make una carry NBS state ...when Nigeria split we would know who is who

Don't mind them. Like seriously, how can a sane person claim that there are more poor people in Anambra than Osun?!

This is so ridiculous, take a look at the towns and villages in Osun and compare it with the towns and villages in Anambra. It is common sense to expect rich or middle class people to at least live I decent houses. So how can rich people live in those slum dwellings that litter all over Osun? Contrast with Onitsha, Nnewi, Awka, and the villages in Anambra were people live in decent houses. Is that not a verifiable way of measuring wealth?

That is why nobody takes Nigerian statistics serious. They peddle fake news just to massage their ego.

Audio people that live on propaganda. Tufiakwa!

NGpatriot:
The most peaceful state in Nigeria is Osun state, noot any state in the SE.

The state with the lowest unemployment rate in Nigeria is Osun state, not any state in the SE.

The state with the lowest misery index in Nigeria is Osun state, not any state ion the SE.

The states with the lowest poverty rates in Nigeria are Osun, Delta and Lagos state, not any state in the SE.

Btw, the current government and president traveled twice already to the SE to commissione 2 projects and already set to finish and commissione the 2nd Niger bridge, but the people you vote for all the time and supported for 20 years did not commission 1 single project anywhere in the SE.

Cry me a big river, your meaningless essay still did not explain what your useless governors are doing with the taxes and allocations they collect on your behalf.

Many states in Nigeria are building their own seaports, they are not crying and moaning like the usual crybaby aka SE.

Your governors, your elected federal officials from ministers and so on are part of the FG and the FEC where federal projects are approved and funded so what are they doing? They just sit and go to sleep while the other regions are looking out for their regions?

Why is it so hard for the so called richest people in Nigeria, the developers of Nigeria, the most industrious people without industries to functioning riverports or any kind of port or even anything at all without begging and blackmailing Nigeria for your misery and bad local leadership?

You people are not serious at all and it's sad that with your mentality, that region is doomed because the leaders of tomorrow in that region are just like the old useless leaders with zero ideas. You all have the same sit down, blame, blackmail, other people are doing us and complain mentality,'

Very sad.

You're indeed a funny person. Lol, are you now going by states and not regions? SE is far more peaceful than SW or any other region in Nigeria. Your region is awash with cultism, violent robbery, kidnapping and ritual killings. There is a higher chance of losing your head in the SW than being killed by Boko Haram in the NE.

Have you forgotten that there is what is called exclusive list in Nigeria? Do you expect the Anambra state government to dredge the river Niger and make Onitsha port viable? What about P.H, Onne, Calabar, and Warri seaports that the FG left dormant while forcing every imports to come through Lagos? Now Lagosians can't breath due to the congestion that city is facing and Nigeria keeps losing billions of naira in revenue to Cotonue ports because they can't or just don't want to implement policies that will help redirect traffic to these Eastern ports.

How long did it take FG to repair Abuja, Kaduna, Lagos, and Kano airports? Now ask yourself why it is taking them forever to work on Enugu airport. Yet the runway at Enugu airport isn't being expanded to accommodate bigger aircrafts as demanded by big airlines like Emirates before they would fly Enugu route. Do you even think that we're stupid not to see all the wickedness Nigerian government is directing on the SE?

FYI, that we call out our governors does not mean they're worse than your governors. Can you name your governors that are/were better than the likes of Dave Umahi, Peter Obi, or Sullivan Chime? We have a culture of not accepting half measures when we know we can do better unlike you guys that will choose to suffer and die in silence instead of calling out your leaders.

NGpatriot:
The usual victim mentality excuse.

I don't remember the FG blocking your state allocations, taking your IGR and preventing your kerosene governors from developing your states.

Other states don't sit around and beg for infrastructures, they draw up their development plans, they go to the FG for approval just like the states seeking FG approval for seaports, they are not sitting around blackmailing the FG or other people, they pulled up their pant, did their homework and asked for FG approval and support which they rightfully get all the time and they are moving forward.

You sat quietly, voted for and defended the people that did not commission 1 single FG project in the SE and you are still voting for the same useless people, but you want to lie and make us believe that other people are holding you back.

you've overplayed that sad and pathetic song, Nigerians are not falling for that rubbish.

Btw, the most important stats ant the end of the day is not your chest beating delusions, it's poverty rate, employment rate, misery index, peace in dext and general quality of life stats that you are at the bottom of.

Really, but at least you remember the FG spending billions of dollars of China loans on all regions except the SE, or don't you?

You remember the FG closing down Enugu international airport indefinitely, something it would never do if it were outside the SE, or don't you?

The same FG built inland dry ports in other regions but refused to do so in the SE that need it most.

The Enugu/P.H. expressway is still in terrible condition.

Railways are being built on other regions except the ones connecting the SE. Despite all these, you still deny that the FG is frustrating the SE?

Is it the Kano or Kaduna state government that is building the KKK multi billion dollars gas pipeline or the railway?
Is it the Lagos or Oyo state government that is building the Lagos/Ibadan expressway or the railway? Can you mention a single federal government agency that has its head office in the SE but I can mention at least two in each of the other 5 regions.

Forget about Yeye Kale's fake statistics. SE definitely has the least number of poor people in all the regions. Poverty and riches are things you can't hide. If the SW is rich as Yeye Kale wants us to believe, your towns and cities won't be so dilapidated. Rich or middle class people don't live in the sort of houses that are found in your region, rather it is poverty stricken people that do.

In terms of employment, there is no way we will have more unemployed people than any other group considering that trade and commerce is mopping up a large number of our people who aren't employed in government or other sectors.

Misery index, quality of life etc. can't be worse in the SE than any other region since the SE is the most peaceful region in Nigeria.

What should even bother you is the fact that despite Igbos having large numbers outside our region, our region is still pulling so much weight.

NGpatriot:
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Of course...

You people have serious mental issues I swear
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Cry me a river!
We are unstoppable and the unfortunate thing for you is that there is nothing you can do about it

Madmohamed419:
the only place Chinese will not penetrate is South east.how many Chinese u see in Aba and Anambra. We now more than them.

Exactly, they can't outsmart us and that's why they avoid us and go to places they will face no challenge. Indians and Lebanese have always dominated the trade and services sectors in many places across Africa since the colonial times, but we are gradually displacing them. Check many cities and towns in Sub-Saharan Africa and you will see what I'm telling you. It will only get better but the only issue is that Africans have slave mentality. They will never envy the Lebanese or Indians or Chinese because they have this inferiority complex that they're better than them but once it is a fellow Black person like them, you will see them getting angry.

So sad.

OkutaNla:
Allow the Op to chestbeat in peace na. After that yesterday's report about low FDI in the SE, a lot of egos were bruised so please allow them to feel good about themselves for a change.

Even the pie chart you displayed above is contradicting what you said. SE with just 5 states outperformed other regions with 6 and 7 states by far yet you feel our ego was bruised. How exactly?

We are more concerned about our local Igbo investors that will invest and keep our proceeds at home rather than foreign capitalists that are only here to make money from us and take it to their own countries.

Did you watch that drone pictures of Abriba yesterday? Many of you were shocked that an Igbo village is looking like Lekki when your own villages are filled with mud houses. Mind you there are lots of other villages in Igboland like Abiriba. The likes of Oguta, Igbere, Nkwerre, Enugwu Ukwu, Udi and many others. The reason we are having such developments spread out all over Igboland is because our economy is in our hands and not some Chinks, Lebanese or Indians who reap us off and send proceeds home.

We will soon displace the Lebanese from Africa. It is already happening

kollinzgee:
Yes bro, and we shall also bring technology to Africa Aba is showing signs to be of Tokyo of West Africa the self belief in Aba manufacturers is something else and should be encouraged, a restructured Nigeria or independent biafra will bring the best out of aba and onitsha.

Nigeria has really retarded our development. If only we had achieved Biafra in the 1960's, Africa would have had a country comparable to the Asian Tigers.

The feudal North is anti development and anti progress and they've brought Nigeria to their 'no future ambition' level. It's really sad.

Sammy07:
. So are you telling us out of over,250 ethnic groups you're the most hardworking tribe? Other tribes are lazy and do nothing

If that's how you want to put it, then yes! If you disagree then mention those that are more hard-working than Igbos in Nigeria.

I'm waiting?!

Sammy07:
. And must you always make reference to Yorubas? There are over 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria. Can't you mention jukuns, gbwari, Tiv, nupe, Fulani, Hausa, ibiblo, Benin, Ijaws, Esan, urhobos, etc?

Nigeria has three major ethnic groups i.e. the Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba. So, it isn't out of place to mention Yoruba. I can't start mentioning minorities in such context.

Abohboy:
Then why aren’t south eastern states the best states in Nigeria. It has nothing to do with your ethnicity, ethnicity doesn’t equal knowledge.

State sanctioned policies is frustrating the SE. When you say why aren't the SE states the best in Nigeria, then the question is best in what aspect?

Our states are still doing relatively better than many others. Look at any verifiable statistics holistically and tell me states that are doing better than SE states.

Is it in terms of education?
Housing?
School enrollment?
Industry?
Services?
Commerce and trade?

Be specific and tell me those that doing better than us.

The good thing is that we are gradually returning to our pre-civil war levels, and the sky is our limit.
A good number of the industrial brands in Nigeria today began as petty traders, buying and selling in what some mock as 4 by 4 shops. They begin by retailing, then to wholesale and supplies/distribution and ultimately to manufacturing. The likes of Ibeto, Tonimas, Innoson, AZ, Dozzy, Coscharis and lots of others began that way. These was even a generation that had little education. However, now that our traders are becoming more educated with many graduates going into trade and commerce, expect more of these springing up in large numbers.

Nigeria has continued to frustrate us by deliberately making SE unattractive to big investments. It will even surprise some people to know that a good number of the industries in Lagos/Ogun axis are owned by Igbos. If only Enugu international airport is made functional and efficient, and P.H to Enugu railway is standardized like that of Lagos to Ibadan while the federal roads are made motorable like they are in the North, gas pipelines built to supply gas to Onitsha, Nnewi and Enugu, the East will immediately become an industrial powerhouse.

Some Nigerians were mocking the Igbos that SE attracted the least FDI (not minding that we did better than regions with 6 & 7 states). I laughed when I saw the ignorance being displayed openly.

What is FDI? Foriegn Direct Investment. But except an FDI is strictly for charity, the aim of that venture is to go into a place, make as much profit as you can, and repatriate same profits to your home country. FDI is good in terms of providing employment and paying tax but it is never better than home grown brands! I will give an instance, in P.H. Next Malls is as big as ShopRite but if they make 1 billion naira profit, that money stays in our economy but if ShopRite makes 1 billion naira profit, that profit is going to South Africa. Now who gained and who lost?

Few days ago, Umahi invited some Igbo business men to come and invest in Ebonyi state. Now these are the type of investors that is best for us and not going to some capitalists in China who will invest, make the money here and send it back to their home economy.

Igbos are currently providing Nigeria with the biggest investors nationwide. Go to Abuja, Lagos, Jos, P.H, Asaba etc. the story is the same.

If it were any other ethnic group that were at the receiving end of that unfortunate civil war, they would have been done for. Consider this, by 1970 when the war ended. Our economy was wiped out, cities destroyed, bank accounts made useless and all. Yet a few years later, the Igbos were able to bounce back, even without any form of government assistance! It is interesting to note that virtually all the billionaires in Igboland today, are first generation. That is to say, they all became rich through their own personal efforts and not inheritance.

The enterprenuel, adventurous and can-do spirit of the Igbos, coupled with a culture and tradition that gives everyone equal opportunity, is the biggest asset of the Igbos.

Did you know that if the 200 million strong population of Nigeria were to be Igbos alone, Nigeria would have become one of the biggest economies of the world by now? I will explain!

Did you know that Igbos have done more to make Nigeria great than any other group, and their subjugation is partly why Nigeria is in tatters? I will explain!

Of all the Southern ethnic groups, education got to Igboland last. However, fast forward to the 1940's, 50's and 60's, and Igbos closed the gap and were ahead of others until the civil war. By the time the civil war broke out, Igbos were already in control of the Nigerian economy having effectively replaced the returning British. It was so alarming to others that the premier of Northern Nigeria, Ahmadu Bello and their house of assembly began to make inflammatory speeches and laws targeted at Igbos!

The Igbo Economic model places emphasis on a bottom-up approach to development. For instance, if you're born poor in the North there is every likelihood that you will remain poor till death thus entrenching poverty circle. However, if you're born poor in Igboland, the height you can reach in life is dependent on your dreams and aspirations. There are no cultural or religious limitations to what anyone can become because there is equal playing ground for all.

The question is, will they listen to the voice of reason? Instead they will choose to follow the drug baron and bullion van fraudster who lives at Buidilion.

Only a United South can defeat what is coming, otherwise we are done for!!!

OruExpress:
So instead of paying the people for their labor, there came mandatory physical labor. Instead of buying european clothes because they were fashionable, bans of african clothes were brought in learning no choice, unless it was european made african fabrics. Instead of trading for things like palm, communities were given quotas by law of palm they had to produce for the company.

As time went the locals realized these companies, and the british government enforcing their hold were not here for their their benefit. Yes they were building roads, but it was just enough road to get Northern goods to Europe, and hence why our road system is as poorly planned as it is. Yes they built schools, but the schools taught just enough to individuals to admire european products and buy them, and hence our education system.

gradually people like Nnamdi Azikiwe, Herbert Macaulay, Obafemi Awolowo, and others began questioning if these relationships were mutual or exploitative. If the coming of these new companies were making people richer, or giving people just enough money for them to need to return the next morning for more. Is the company exploiting coal in Enugu making Enugu richer? or are it's profits banked in Europe? Is the company exploiting Cocoa in Ibadan making Ibadan richer, or is it banking it's cocoa in Europe? Is the company getting next to free northern cotton and soldier labor making these people and the environment richer, or is it banking the money in Europe.


If Shoprite comes to Nigeria. And Shoprite makes N13 billion in one year (hypothetical), should we celebrate that it ALSO created 500 jobs? If paying the combined salaries of all 500 people won't be 10% of that money taken out of the Nigerian economy and back to South Africa.

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You're 100% right!!!!
That's what the shallow thinkers don't know.

Umahi has written his name in gold. Posterity will judge him well. He is a man that is passionate about developing his state.

If only he could replace that fat and irresponsible disaster in Abia state, even as a visiting governor, Abia will be better for it than having someone like Ikpeazu.

totit:
If it's about population you mean by lagos, is Lagos the most populated state in Nigeria?

If it's about being the former capital then why has Abuja failed in this regard?

When we talk about Lagos factor, what's this factor exactly, and how come Ogun state is now the most industrialized state, above Lagos? R
Keep in mind that SS is the most blessed region even above SW in terms of wealth. So, I really don't get this lagos factor that many and you talk about often.

How has Abuja failed in that regard when the same Abuja is responsible for North Central's 11% and second position?

Ask yourself, if Abuja that was created from a jungle yesterday is already rivaling Lagos, then what do you think will happen in the next couple of decades?

What made Abuja to become an investment hotbed if not because it is the federal capital? Did the native Gwaris do anything? So why are you denying that the federal capital status of Lagos for donkey years is not responsible for its pole position in the committee of states?

Now you guys are trying hard to rewrite history by claiming it's Yorubas that made Lagos what it is instead giving credit to where it is due. Maybe, the Gwaris will wake up in 2060 when Abuja would have surpassed Lagos and equally claim it was due to their efforts.

SMH!