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Lol, Mr. Man, it is in your own best interest to support Igbo presidency. The choice is all yours, if you like apply common sense work with the Igbos to ensure we are fully integrated by supporting their quest for presidency. When Igbos believed in Nigeria, the country was making giant strides but when we were sidelined, everything went to the dogs.

Many Igbos are apathetic to the Igbo presidency issue because they've lost interest in Nigeria. If guys are wise, this is an opportunity to make them have a rethink.

Look all around Nigeria and you will see chaos and disorder. We are the glue holding the country together, if you believe that Nigeria will survive 2023 and beyond with another Northerner or even SW in Aso rock then you're deluded.

IamWonderful:
Your ignorance is topnotch.

You're the ignorant one here, believe me. The sort of gullibility people like you exhibit is the main reason Southerners are where we are.

Let me ask you, do you think Nigger-area has the capacity to repay that loan and many others they keep collecting from any willing lender no matter the terms??

How to control the ports of afonja land have always been a major concern to the landlocked Arewa. The afonjas being in control of the port will put them at their mercy after break up but if it were to be in neutral hands, like the Chinese controlling it, it would be run like a business venture with everyone including the Arewa having as much access as the afonja.

King44:
The way the southern Muslim think when it comes to security is different from the way northern Muslims think.

South Westerners probably all Southerners are security conscious, if they suspect you of being a terrorist they would gbab u and before the police get to hear about it, such person would have been dealt with.

It would be difficult for Al Qaeda to penetrate because the way the southern Muslim and Christians think is different from the way northern Muslim think.

You need support from a very large community for such atrocity to thrive, which is absent here.

You're looking at it from a simplistic point of view. You can get radical Muslims anywhere in the world. If Muslims can be brainwashed in the Western countries such as Britain, France and United States among others, is it in Nigeria where a combination of poverty, illiteracy and ignorance is high that they won't have it easy? Was it not Yoruba Muslim fanatics that killed that British policeman Rigby in the streets of London? What about Abdulmutalab who was in America?

These guys know how to groom fanatics very easily once they've access to the indigenes. Creating cells and followers will be very easy for them once they're able to infiltrate local Muslim population.

To be honest with you, the SW and Edo state particularly should be very worried.

KEVIND:
The Oodua Peoples Congress (OPC) has condemned the President Muhammadu Buhari led government’s loan arrangements with China.

It said the administration had embarked on a suicidal mission that will push the Nigerian economy to its knees.

OPC Publicity Secretary, Yinka Oguntimehin, in a statement on Tuesday expressed worry that the borrowings would make the South-West the greatest loser.

Noting that Minister of Transportation, Rotimi Amaechi, said it will take the Federal Government about 20 years to pay back the loan, OPC decried that government failed to judiciously utilise previous loans secured.

“How can you explain the rationale behind the loan arrangements? The government is up to something sinister because all available indices have it that the Nigerian economy is gradually moving downwards. Today our naira is N470 to a dollar. What that means is that our naira is falling daily to the American dollar.

“The Nigerian Port Authority (NPA) was established in 1913, even before the Nigerian independence in 1960. It is sad that one of our national heritage and institutions in the south is being mortgaged and considered as one of the assets and monuments for the payment plan with the China government.

“The controversial sovereign guarantee and sovereign immunity clause in the loan arrangement with China has raised many questions about the sincerity of federal government, and as a group, we can not keep quiet as if nothing is wrong. Nobody truly understands the drift of this government.

“We have a strong feeling that the North is suspecting that Nigeria will not last beyond 2023, that is why they are mortgaging the future of the entire nation with bad loans, and sadly they are using Amaechi and his allies from the south to perpetrate their sinister plans”, he noted.

https://dailypost.ng/2020/08/04/china-loans-npa-among-nigerias-collateral-north-behind-deal-opc-blasts-buhari-amaechi/

OMG, I didn't even read this part before I made the post above.

Anyone who can think deeply will easily decode whatever is playing out in this country, ahead of time. This is exactly what Nnamdi Kanu did too that's making all his past predictions to be appearing like prophecy. Even the recent hate speech bill is because they know that winter is coming so they want to use that to suppress people and ensure that nobody will voice out when sh!t finally hits the fan.

If you think that North is naive or doesn't know what they're doing then you're mistaken! These guys are indirectly handing over the ports of SW to the Chinese. They know that having the ports in the hands of a neutral foriegn country will ensure they have unfettered access to it when nigger-area finally breaks up.

The afonjas have been played

Beverlyjean:
The south west is Souths major problem

Ordinarily, they should be more concerned because Islamic terrorism, be it ISIS, Al queda, Boko Haram etc. can only thrive and fester in areas where Muslims have significant local population. The SW is about 50% Muslims and another area in the South with large Muslim population is Auchi in Edo state. These are the areas they can easily infiltrate and establish bases. SE is about 99% Christians, it would be relatively hard for the terrorists to establish a presence in our region.

Having a large Muslim population in any community sulks

Misterdhee1:
Did you guys vote for the abiola you're even talking about?

You see how hypocritical some of you can be. Abiola was a Muslim and yet picked another Muslim as running mate. His opponent, Tofa, was a Muslim but picked a Christian running mate. His running mate is not just a Christian but also Igbo. These factors notwithstanding, Abiola was able to Anambra state and got substantial percentage of votes in the other SE states. Is there any region where Abiola won all the states completely??

Difrent:
This is exactly the point that other Nigerians have been pointing out to you as wrong, its wrong for you to want to tear the country apart because your candidate lost an election, ITS PURE GREED THATS DRIVING YOUR ACTIONS..... the same Nigeria you lost faith in 4years earlier elected GEJ, the same Nigeria lost faith in GEJ but only the ibos stood by him (which is commendable) but unfortunately it's the minority opinion and in democracy, the majority have their way.........Its very unfair of you to be demanding presidency from a party you loathe so much speaks volumes of how confused you are

Are you for real? Who is being greedy between the Igbos that have been sidelined since 1970 and Yorubas or Hausas that have been rotating power and virtually everything of what in Nigeria between them? GEJ was the only president that gave Igbos a sense of belonging since the war ended in 1970. When it became obvious he was running an all inclusive government, the next thing was a gang-up to remove him and replace him with someone who has returned to the same status quo of subjugating the Igbos as a national policy.

GEJ was not defeated in a free and fair election, he was threatened and subsequently removed in a charade they called election. GEJ knew and rightly said that his ambition was not worth the blood of any Nigerian. He simply walked away instead of allowing the gang-up against him to result in massive bloodshed.

The impression that has been created which most discerning Igbos have understood quite well is that we are not wanted in Nigeria and anybody who associates with us or tries to allow us to have the same privilege with those that won the civil war will be removed by any means possible.

If what is being done to Igbos in Nigeria, is being done to any other group, they would even do worse.

chrisblack:
That the same fallacy you would use to bring calamity upon your self. Do you understand what a cannon folder means?. You see all the present rubbish going on in the north would be Galvanize and the east would be blamed as the cause. Mind you they don't value life .an woe befall you if the other parts of the south choose to sidon look .then you will understand. You will be on the defensive .they would figth on your land not on theirs. This in it self is already a disadvantage.Please try and read the book called the Art of war.Then you can get small sense to talk about what you know nothing about

It is obvious you lack the ability to read and comprehend. Read my reply to him again. Who is talking about fighting a war with Nigeria? Igbos can achieve Biafra without firing a single shot! Nigeria already has lots of fractures we can manipulate to break away. Thank God we have influential people in strategic places globally who can reach out to powerful individuals. Nigeria is not a nuclear power or even a mid-level powerful country that can challenge the US and UN should they endorse our break up. Which president will want to dare them? Nigeria is already very close to anarchy. Look at the NE, NW, NC and even the South is becoming increasingly unsafe. The country is in tatters and as it is now, a declaration in Washington can break it up without any form of resistance.

loopman:
So go and get the military to decree the two major parties to gift the tickets to ibos

However we are in democracy under civilian rule, people use their creativity, strategies and strengths to win election and not by sitting in your bedroom to be issuing secession threats up and down

The truth is that no zone can make itself president without the active support of others. The SW couldn't make it until others supported them. Even the NW and NE had been voting for Buhari but he couldn't make it until he got additional support from the SW in 2015.

When others keep telling Igbos that nobody will support them, or that other zones won't vote for them, you're simply saying that we are not needed in Nigeria. We have an adage in Igbo that says he who is rejected does not reject himself. So, we have had enough patience already and if by 2023 we are sidelined again, then it means we would have to take our destiny in our own hands and walk away.

Oracleforce:
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You better start the bulkanization process now....don't wait till 2023...idiot...chest beaters...if your people like, make dem turn the country upside down....your people don't matter at all...those that matters are the Niger-delta people...your lands are full of woes and curses...what do you want to do? You can't blow any pipeline....most of your important people have deserted your cursed land and relocated to Lagos and abroad respectively...
Come and leave the shores of this country and start your own country...idiot...
Nyamiri people cannot reap where they didn't sow...nyamiri people are mostly in PDP...and you know. that if you mobilize people along your party line , you might be victorious...and not what they are claiming now...
Timubu with Bihari saw a lacunar in PDP and they came together to form APC with few members from the then fragemented ANPP and APGA....and their team-up came out to be victorious...then, nyamiri people that don't know how the party was formed later came and is requesting for the presidential position in the party that you didn't form...[/s]

It's obvious you have saw dust for brain. Please don't quote me next time, I'm allergic to dull people

And Northern Nigeria is where they're coming

hollah123:
if I get u right,that means u are gradually applauding the yorubas for playing their game well in 99?don't try to base on on tribal sentiment but strategizing n proper positioning

I don't understand what you mean by Yorubas playing their game well. In 1993, Abiola won an election that was considered to be free and fair, but instead of allowing him to rule, the North used the military to frustrate him. He was eventually killed in prison, same as his wife. That was obviously a bad thing and the North realized that was an injustice. In order to pacify the Yorubas, it was decided that in the best interest of Nigeria, and for peace to reign, the presidency should go to the SW. Is there any special thing the Yorubas did?

They were agrieved and rightly so, and were pacified with Obasanjo presidency.

At the moment, the Igbos are agrieved in Nigeria, and we have every reason to be. Anybody who is not evil-minded knows that too. Had it been the Igbos are a minor group, Nigeria would have got away with it, but we are talking about a major ethnic group here!

Anyone who is observant can clearly see that Nigeria is a very sick country, and it can't survive a major shake-up considering how disorganized it is already. The country is gradually breaking up and injustice against the Igbos is fueling it. The only sensible thing to do now is to look for ways to convince us to stay with Nigeria.

Misterdhee1:
Inclusive govt u say? By giving all the major positions to igbos? And even with that, can you point out his achievement in SEast? Rather than threatening Nigeria with secession that would never happen, why not hold the party you guys have stupidly been in love with for decades for 2023 ticket?

Check GEJ's appointments and you will see that it had a national spread. Igbos are only demanding for fairness and equity, but if that's too much to ask for, then we have the right to walk away from the union and determine our fate.

Blackking98:
The Yorubas Will send their forces to kwell biafra

Lol, you must be a commedian. Which forces exactly? amotekun

hollah123:
y not manipulate it to suit u too other than cheap blackmail?

Let me ask u a question,if ekweme n Ogbonnaya onu had won d election then won't we have an Igbo president?

How could any of them have won when the system was manipulated to make way for a Yoruba president to emerge?

The military heirachy knew that only a Yoruba president could heal the wounds and pacify the Yorubas over the humiliation and death of Abiola who won a free and fair elections but was jailed and killed in prison.

hollah123:
let the agitation increase to 1billion percent,nobody is giving u presidency on a platter of gold....get that fact n understand that u have to work for it.

Abiola was killed for an election he won n in 1999 nobody talked about any healing process by micro zoning but they threw it out for all southerners.If ekweme had defeated obj then n Ogbonnaya onu had defeated Olu falae... believe u me we will have an Igbo president without anyone talking of true reconciliation.

Contest n slug it out ,if u win fine u have it n if it's d other way round u restrategize.

Lol, so you take the things that happen in Nigeria on their face value? Ask yourself why Obasanjo and Olu Falae emerged as flag bearers in the two major parties in 1999?

Who sponsored Obasanjo then, a man that just came out of prison?

The military heirachy believed that only a Yoruba president will heal the wounds, following the humiliation and death of Abiola.

Things don't just happen naturally in Nigeria. They're manipulated from behind the scenes.

FrLukas:
What a clown!

I wonder why you can't demand that PDP give you it's presidential ticket.

Why you assume that APC that you've always labeled as a jihaddist party will give you it's presidential slot is beyond me.

It shows that not only are you very poor political strategists, you are also downright delusional.

It's obvious you're the one who needs to be enlightened on what's going on.

Whiteangel1234:
Its in the best interest of Nigeria to zone the presidency to the south East and igbos

IPOB popularity is a fallout of the 2015 Incidence they 2023 fallout will be worst that Nigeria map will be redrawn forever we are not afraid of war we have gone that road before we will go it again than to be slaves in Nigeria our fathers help build and make .


It will be a guerrilla war the battle field will be the whole of southern Nigeria as a Buffer Zone dont think we will go to another civil war and be force to retreat into south East to be surrounded and our land destroyed again

Lol, that's what they don't know. Many Nigerians are incapable of critical reasoning.
The country is already in the doldrums and I can tell you for free that Nigeria can never survive a total Igbo move for balkanization.
There won't even be any need to take up arms. To even fight who? The NE is in shambles. The NW is in total disarray. The NC is a killing field and it is fast moving south wards. The economy is in a palous state. Nigeria is already in coma and a serious push by the Igbos will break it up totally.

hollah123:
let me address it based on the points u raised
(1) Power can never/will never b given by threats,if that's Igbos strategy to get power then they are on a very long thing

u sit down in one corner n some people are really strategizing hard n somehow u come with threats so as to have what others worked hard for,Na so e easy reach?

(2) On the issue of joining Nnamdi Kanu,if they like let them join Hitler,just one question anybody will ask them is .........is there seccesion in the constitution?
Some people think it's by making noise,d UN,FIFA,US,n all those that they run to doesn't even care so your best bet is to master d act of politicking n use it to your advantage like others.

And to I'll informed Igbos who will talk about micro zoning,ask yourself was there micro zoning in 99 when ekweme contested against obj, Ogbonnaya onu contested against Olu falae.....so theres nothing like it's our turn or any cheap blackmail...it's d South's turn n any southerner can contest

Let me address your own points respectively

1. Igbos are not threatening anyone, at least we aren't saying we are going to kill anyone or to set Nigeria on fire. Rather, it is a promise. Telling Nigerians that we will chart our own course where we will have our dignity is not a threat. We have the right to self determination.

2. Having a secession clause in the Constitution or not doesn't change anything in the long run. We have the numbers and global spread to bring Nigeria to its knees. At the moment, the percentage of Igbos asking for Biafra is not up 30% yet Nigeria is feeling the pressure, then imagine what will happen when up to 80% of us become passionate about it. Igbos make up the highest number of Nigerians abroad and if they form a critical mass against Nigeria, the result will be devastating on our corporate image. Also, we have influential personalities in strategic places globally that could help us dismantle Nigeria. Nigeria is a very weak country and it would be gone once the US and UN are convinced to break it.

If those that want Nigeria to continue existing are wise and sensible, they will see the quest for Igbo presidency as a do or die affair. This is because the Igbos are gradually pulling out of the union and the effect of their psychological withdrawal is having serious adverse effects on Nigeria.

The Yorubas already believe that Nigeria is given them what Oduduwa cannot give them, but the Igbos believe that the worst form of Biafra will be better than what they're experiencing in Nigeria. Who between these two groups do you think should be pacified for peace and progress?

Nwodo has said it all, nothing more to add. Igbos have passed the ball and it is now in their court. So, whatever they return is what will decide the way forward.

Igbos have shown more love to Nigeria than any other group but what did we get in return? Hate, envy, jealousy and wickedness. They joined forces with the sole purpose of keeping us down. However, it is no longer business as usual, something will definitely give this time around.

Igbos embraced GEJ, not because he is an Igbo man but simply because he ran an all inclusive government which the Igbos have always asked for, and I don't think that too much. We stood with him through thick and thin, even when facts on ground showed he did more for the North than any other zone.

When the results were being announced, and it became obvious he was going to lose, many places in the East became quiet like a graveyard. I could feel the frustration, anger and sadness in many people. I believe it was at this point that many Igbos joined IPOB because they totally lost faith in Nigeria. Now, imagine what will happen in 2023 if/when the Igbos are sidelined again. I don't need any soothsayer to tell me what is going to happen. That will definitely be the proverbial last straw that will break the camel's back.

What Nwodo said is obviously what is going to happen and that is why IPOB is praying that Igbos should be sidelined so that they can achieve a consensus in the demand for Biafra.

Nwodo has said it all, nothing more to add. Igbo have passed the ball and it is now in their court. So, from whatever they return is what we will decide the way forward.

Igbos have shown more love to Nigeria than any other group but what did we get in return? Hate, envy, jealousy and wickedness. They joined forces with the sole purpose of keeping us down. However, it is no longer business as usual, something will definitely give this time around.

Igbos embraced GEJ, not because he is an Igbo man but simply because he ran an all inclusive government which the Igbos have always asked for, and I don't think that too much. We stood with him through thick and thin, even when facts on ground showed he did more for the North than any other zone.

When the results were being announced, and it became obvious he was going to lose, many places in the East became quiet like a graveyard. I could feel the frustration, anger and sadness in many people. I believe it was at this point that many Igbos joined IPOB because they totally lost faith in Nigeria. Now, imagine what will happen in 2023 if/when the Igbos are sidelined again. I don't need any soothsayer to tell me what is going to happen. That will definitely be the proverbial last straw that will break the camel's back.

What Nwodo said is obviously what is going to happen and that is why IPOB is praying that Igbos should be sidelined so that they can achieve a consensus in the demand for Biafra.

IkwerrePikin:
I don’t know why Igbos hate truth and find it difficult to accept reality.

If they give Igbo man ticket will you win North and Yoruba votes? The people you and your Nnamdi kanu abuse on a daily bases?

If Apc give you the ticket you can not win even in the South South dominated by PDP talk more of winning Yoruba votes and North votes?

Your best bet is to support Rotimi Amaechi as power moves to the South because Amaechi can pull more votes in South West, South South his home region and South East which no Igbo politican can boost of under Apc.

It is obvious that you're still a novice when it comes to politics. Do you think a minority can win presidential elections in Nigeria? What did you think made GEJ to align with Igbos? He knew his Ijaw people are too small to provide him a structural base. Now, if the Ijaws that are far more populous and influential than the Ikwerre, coupled with their militancy blackmail tool, couldn't give GEJ a strong base, is it a minute minority like Ikwerre with nothing to leverage on, that can give Amaechi a base??

Do you think that if Amaechi should face half of the attacks Tinubu has encountered that he can survive it? Who will deflate such attacks for him? Edwin Clark who is the most respected personality in the SS today has been clamouring for Igbo presidency. Do you think the Ijaws or the Ibibios or the Aniomas or the Urhobos will see Amaechi as their own??

Amaechi is just like an orphan with nobody to fight for him and he has no chance at all.

IkwerrePikin:
Proeast i told you that in Politics, what matters is who can deliver and not where you come from and you can not threaten Nigeria to vote for you with Biafra.

I don’t support power to remain in the North in 2023, it should come to the South and the person who can win more votes like Rotimi Amaechi should be considered.

Ikwerre political strength in Nigeria is very strong now.

While we control Rivers State politics, Wike has great influence not just in the Niger delta region but also in the affairs of PDP.

Rotimi Amaechi is among the top Buhari cabals controlling Apc

Rotimi Amaechi said Igbo should forget about 2023 because he understands that igbo have not built bridges with other regions in Nigeria instead your people have been preaching hate with Nnamdi kanu

Nyesom Wike has now said Pdp will not consider zoning.

Igbo need to build good relationship with Ikwerre to succeed politically by 2023 by voting Rotimi Amaechi who is an Ikwerre man who is closer to you and has an igbo wife and inlaws.

I don’t understand why you igbos find it difficult to understand the politics of today Nigeria. Your best bet is your ikwerre inlaws.

Stop decieving yourself. Amaechi has nothing to offer anybody. Someone who goes about signing documents that were written in Chinese language without requesting for translation is a mugu. Nigeria does not need someone like Amaechi because he is obviously incompetent. Worse still, he has no base. Who will fight for him when sh!t hits the fan? The Igbos will always fight for our own and we have the numbers and intellectuals to do so. The Yorubas will always fight for their own too. Now, you should ask yourself who will fight for Amaechi when they start dragging him about, as would definitely happen to any presidential candidate. He belongs to a minute minority group that has no clout and no influence whatsoever.

Ikwerre should go and play with their mates like the Ogoni, Etche, Kalabari and other clans. We are not in the same category with them in any way.

Nyesom Wike is a local champion who is wasting Rivers State money like a drunken sailor in the name of trying to be influential in PDP. He is still a novice in the grand scheme of things.

It is the SE that pulls SS along (not the other way round), considering that we Igbos constitute a significant percentage of SS population and they'll always go along with us.

The worst thing the North will do will be to support someone like Amaechi who we don't accept as an Igbo man and their hope of appealing to Igbos to jettison Biafra and accept Nigeria will be lost. They're not stupid not to see that.

Amaechi has no chance at all, but as a human being, he can continue dreaming and fantasizing

udy4real:
Please Can you guide me on how you draw this line over people's comments,I have tried it on my phone but it's not working

Edit the post. Highlight the section you want to cancel. Go to the strike button above the emojis and hit it.

Lol, Biafrans are really dealing with Nigeria in the diplomatic front. Last time, IPOB bought a club in Germany named Nigeria FC and renamed it Biafra FC

Igbos are gradually tilting towards Biafra psychologically and if nothing is done to fully embrace them in Nigeria, they will do serious damage to the corporate identity of Nigeria. They have the numbers and global spread to seriously humiliate Nigeria.

Guestlander:
Why I should I pray for a country where Africa girls and women are sold on the internet like a piece of furniture?

Don't mind him, we should pray for Lebanon because of a single explosion that occurred there today, yet explosions have been occuring in Nigeria on a daily basis with hundreds dying on a weekly yet the whole world ignores it.

Rubbish!!

Despicable acts! You refuse to pay them their money and instead unleashed hoodlums on old men and women??

The Supreme Court governor is playing with fire. Ya jukwaa ese!

IkwerrePikin:
Stop preaching hate, you’re blind, if you go with this hate speech it will consume you igbos.

If you reject Amaechi base on hate just like you reject Buhari, then you’re in for a serious problem. Just like Buhari Fulani brothers are killing your people and destroying your villages because of your hate for them and their brother Buhari, we Ikwerre people could pick up arms against you igbo migrants in Port harcourt and you will loose your lives and properties and Nigeria govt will not safe you just like they can’t safe you from Fulani.

How many Ikwerre people in South East? Which Ikwerre properties will you destroy in Igbo land?

You will loose, your hate speech will hurt you. Ikwerre have moved on, we are not fighting igbos, stop creating hatred, we have good igbo neighbors and inlaws. Your unnecessary rants is burn out of hate. The real igbos who are wiser are already drumming support for Amaechi incase he gets the ticket.

Amaechi winning all Igbo state will create good relationship with Ikwerre and Igbo and the igbo elites know this and will never loose the opportunity to create that good relationship with we Ikwerre to safe their investment and properties in PH just like Jonathan(Ijaw) and Igbo despite all that occured during the Biafran war.

Today things have change, the relationship is better now, stop preaching hate and accept reality.

You really need to be careful of what you're wishing yourself. You're in no position to threaten anyone. Using the Fulani analogy is wrong because the Fulanis morphed with the Hausas to become a majority ethnic group and they also control the army, otherwise they won't be acting the way they're doing. However, Ikwerre on the other is a minute minority surrounded by enemies. Other tribes in Rivers State already not happy with you and they're looking for an opportunity to take their pound of flesh.

We have nothing to gain by having you with us. If the Yorubas, a major ethnic group can't even imagine to threaten Igbo investments in Lagos, is it a minute minority like Ikwerre?