tbh.. it is disappointing.. very disappointing

kwakudtraveller:

Lol at this point, it’s getting quite silly.

like!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you should go do research when the government body that gives the visa has shown you data.. lol

Mehnnnn.. i don't understand again

kwakudtraveller:

You mentioned visa stats and I showed you the stats and now you are asking me to go and do my own practical research? What figures were you referring to in your initial comment about visas granted? I would like to see those numbers as you can’t use hear say and non existent data as a benchmark for your argument.

How won't it tell the story bro??

You're arguing with stats from uk gov

Not hear say stats.. official stats?

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-system-statistics-year-ending-december-2022/summary-of-latest-statistics

We should go by hear say? or daddy freeze? or vibes ? or beer parlor gist??

C'mon .. lets be logical

Resurgent2016:


These numbers do not tell the story.

-Go to any job website, apply to 50 companies on the sponsorship list.

-Pick the lower end of the salary scale, just to be sure you are not outpricing yourself and you are potentially offering them cost savings

-Insist on visa sponsorship as a condition to joining.

Let us know how many offers you get or even second interviews.

Exclude medical, NHS, big accounting or other firms where the culture is different for various reasons.

Come back and tell us the stats.

On point!!!!!!

we can list out so many countries .. from the most welcoming to the least welcoming like Japan which is extreme

kwakudtraveller:

Didn’t Nigerians ask Ghanaians to leave at some point? No one truly likes foreigners, go to Switzerland and see how those ones lift up their noses at their fellow white immigrants. This thing is everywhere and it’s not unique to the UK. After all, SA dey show Nigerians pepper.

exactly, you're making my point.. every country has it's own immigration policies to control the numbers that come in, etc..

Quit acting like the UK is this or that..

hustla:



If you lose your sponsored job in the UK, does the same not apply?

lol you must counter with something...

community goals here covers beyond our personal lives..

I'm Nigerian.. that's my only passport.. i paid all the visa and IHS revised fees.. i'm also affected.. so i don't understand what you mean by not caught in crossfire, others can get lost..

Goke7:


that's the issue with our unique community, it's all down to our personal lives, [b]for as long you are not caught in that crossfire, others can get lost. [/b]God help us all

That's the spirit bro... leave all the hear say and talk.. make we hustle achieve our personal/family/financial/community goals.. and strive irrespective of the government changes we can't control

It is friday.... lets enjoy the weekend

Poanan:


Not sure abt 60days Bro. Someone wrote something about it here. There was a way U.S went about it. Agreed that u.s has higher cost of living but 200k dollars no matter the cost of living that is good money o. But again we will make out something by the Grace of God.

emotional? i'm bringing data and someone is using hear say and Daddy freeze as reference.. but i'm the one being emotional?

lmaoooo

Goke7:


the person you quoted gave valid points that you and some others here fail to see, the UK is more hostile to professionals and it's what it is. All those who lost their jobs in the companies you mentioned were a global thing as the companies also laid off here in the Uk or you think folks are not losing jobs here in the Uk too? But you know what the US created a pathway for those folks to remain and gave them a chance to stay longer than the so-called 60 days to find another job, something the UK will never do. Let's not be emotional, the Uk is more hostile than it's Western allies to immigrants.

then tell that to those who started the conversation of comparing to other english speaking western nations

I only reacted to someone saying UK isn't immigration-friendly

Also, you can't compare the average income of USA with the UK...

The cost of living is higher in the States than UK, and people are one sickness away from being financially bankrupt.. because of the healthcare ish we all know

The same way you say people are hooked on HCA jobs is the same way in America, we've seen people who have lived and paid tax in the States for a while have to either find a job in 60days or leave the country when they lose their jobs..

It happened earlier this year and end of last year when Meta, Twitter, Amazon, etc laid off their staff and immigrant workers with H-1B (skilled worker) had 60 days to find another or leave.

They openly sourced for new jobs on twitter and linkedin because they know 60days clock was ticking

Every country has its' own unique policies and systems in place for immigrants.. The struggle is real .. lets keep our heads high and be hopeful

Poanan:


My emphasis was on many Nigerians are hooked on HCA jobs. This is what most dependants do and this has been received to be "low quality" by some people in govt. However, no one talks about how difficult it is to get into the formal sectors. Someone i know who finished last year in the U.S already has a job of 200k. His mates in the U.k are counting time in one care home. Before getting that job his first job was in Amazon which he got while still in school, the same thing happeend to the sister of a friend same U.S.
My classmate attended Oxford and already had his CFA, baba stayed for a while before getting a job. May be a year or also. If it was in the U.S that would have been different. I am not saying UK shouldnt put their citizens first but making a direct comparison with the U.s is some what different. We have being told here that it is easier to get UK visa than the U.S visa but that doesn't translate to been migrant friendly. I am not saying they are hostile though.

i'm tired ...

We must think Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in the States are just there to play around..

Your last statement.... On point !!!!!!!

toughest007:


Are you actually disputing his data with hearsay and quoting daddy freezer?! His data and percentage are quite clear, nothing confusing there.

The ability to live freely when one becomes an overstayer or an illegal immigrant in a country is not a yardstick to measure or compare a country's migrant friendliness.

please stay within the context.. someone mentioned english speaking western countries and another said UK isn't immigrant-friendly..

that's what i was replying to..

The perfect way to use data in this context is to compare the % of immigrants to the total population because some countries are larger in land mass and population than others..

Bringing "according to hear say" to this is funny.... we are talking national stats and numbers.. not hear say..

Poanan:


U.S is more migrant friendly according to hear say. You many not have papers and still live fine but in the U.k u go hear am I won't be able to do anything. According people like daddy freeze and others .

Using percentage may be confusing. If you are a quantitative person, you cant just use percentage straight up. In business when we want to make a number look good we use percentage. But even if we use percentage how many of those percentage are not hooked in health assistant related job?,. We cant compare that to the u.s. in u.s, like someone said we have Nigerians doing great things and that is because policies enable them.

i sincerely don't know any other meaning to what you said

All i'm showing you is data shows they're not as you put it (not being immigration-friendly) and i compared to another English speaking western country which has way more landmass than all countries in the world (Except Russia) because Goke specifically mentioned " English speaking western" country

hustla:




You know what I mean but OK

Not immigrant-friendly? i beg to differ.. and i will use data to back it up

Among the core Anglosphere nations, i.e. 5 of the largest English speaking nations, US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the UK, the UK isn't that far from countries like USA in terms of % of immigrants to population... just 1% from US..

USA 51m immigrants which accounts for 15% of the population

UK 9.4m immigrants which accounts for 14% of the population

This is despite the countries like US, Canada and Australia being Top10 largest countries in land mass in the world, 2nd, 3rd & 6th respectively.

You can find all the data you need to confirm here:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/immigration-by-country

https://www.worldatlas.com/features/countries-by-area.html

So saying they're not immigration-friendly is wrong sha

hustla:



$ will be = 1 naira before the UK Gov will try this

It's the logical thing to do but the[b] UK has never seemed immigrant-friendly[/b] to me unless they have less than 0 options

i'm not sure you how you understood that from what I typed

How won't doubling POF make a difference please?

Is it a revised policy? Yes or No? Isn't that what I stated?

Taal17:

Increasing proof of funds makes no difference
Unless the change of policies include confirming students actually have a certain portion of the fees available to the schools as payment eg. 1st semester paid.

Showing proof of funds doesn't mean you actually have the funds available
Students in Canada are a good percentage of asylum seekers in CA

Like Zahra stated.. countries are revising policies.. it isn't just the UK.. even Canada

& like i stated ... pray for changes to favor your choice and path for you and your families especially for policies we can't control..and plan accordingly for even the worst scenarios

Yoooo.. u drop the most logical and non-emotional responses here.. keep doing that..

someone makes a choice.. how's that forced? lol.. nawa .. the things we read here

What we should be praying and planning for is that our choices should favor our families irrespective of the govt changes we can't control

Zahra29:


No one was forced into care. Many people e.g. with families chose the care route to avoid the cost of IHS. Many chose to prioritise a quicker /surer route to settlement over following their chosen career. Many chose care over PSW for the above reasons.
All valid choices, but they were not forced.

they lied to you

2.5years first then a renewal to take it to just over 5years then ILR and British citizenship .. i'm on same route

Viruses:


Was given 5 years visa, except I was lied to.

Truth is.. it is evidence like this and then Tiamiyu's interview with BBC that are the qualitative data findings used to further back their new migration policies..

Even if they had it in mind before the interview etc. these findings will strengthen and even increase the checks and measures to be implemented, especially as Tiamiyu is a dependent himself and is a perfect representation of the data they need.

He also needed the "fame" I guess...

We can cry and cry about the new rules, but I can't say Nigerians treat themselves better.. £68k?

One thing about Fisayo Soyombo is that he is thorough before he makes his investigation public..

That's serious.. Hope you get your money back..

it will help if you gave more context so people can give specific advise based on their experiences and fields of knowledge..

OmichaelO:
Help, I have someone in this same shoes too

this must be stressful, especially with the winter season already hitting us

have you paid for her the rent you owed though?

I didn't see any update on that Or might have missed it..

The deposit she has refused to give you can be used to settle part or all of the rent if you haven't paid..

I just hope your next landlord won't request for reference from your previous landlord.. they do sometimes

UniqueDext:
Guys I have decided to move out and have my peace of mind.
But my problem now is that the landlord have decided that she will not give me my deposit.
Please what are the best and fast legal way I can use to get my deposit back from her?

Also she didn't register it on any deposit scheme, how do I go about it please.

thanks lol.. i also love the way you give your perspective.. no fights no curses.. you keep it clean and logical

Zahra29:


A bottle of beer for you for this solid writeup

let data do the talking.. it is the best way to separate yourself from the noise.. this isn't a newspaper stand where we should be talking vibes like it is Complete Sports news..

What we discuss here impacts lives and families, and so we should be giving facts not vibes..

heroshark:


Thank you!

The rate at which people attacked me and my comment shocked me. I underestimated how many nigerians despised uncomfortable truth.

Someone even accused me of jealousy and hatred.

that's for all international students right.. we are focused on a small segment .. nigerian students.. pls stay focused on the keyword

How many in that great number are Nigerians? lol

jedisco:



I know a good number of folks who went directly to Canada from Nigeria as it was the easier route for them at the time

When comparing countries immigration policies, you need to first understand the underlying drivers.

Canada is a country of 40 million that lets in over 500k people yearly. When UK ended the PSW visa years back, it was the likes of canada that reminded them the market is hotly contested.
-The US satisfies most of it's labour needs by thousands of Mexicans and South Americans trooping and has the wage advantage to also feed off the UK and EU.
-Australia sits on vast reserves suppling many raw materials to China. Just like Canada, they have the wealth to scrape from the UK and other Western nations.
-The UK is not rich enough to source talent from any English speaking Western nation. They have left the EU hence no cheap European labour. They turning to Asia and Africa is not out of want but need.

sometimes i feel we just want to argue beer parlour gists with emotions..

How can one deny or find it hard to believe the truth that Canada is harder to get in than UK? how

The requirements are so high to get PR into Canada that people with Masters etc do French certification courses just to get high scores (especially if age doesn't favour them).

Can we stop being emotional and work with data?

You also can't blame just the government alone.. you also have to blame students lying about their proof of funds, marriages, and those selling COS and scamming their fellow Nigerians...

You can also watch Border Force UK show and see how Nigerians are embarrassing themselves at both UK and Nigeria... so many episodes that will make you ashamed..

the truth is very bitter but we must swallow it to move on

People can be so evil..

I have had phone calls of strangers (Nigerians) asking if they can stay at mine just because their proof of funds never existed.. of course i didn't agree.. because i have to prioritise my family first

please lets argue with data and not emotions.. it is tiring and misleading..

I have family members and friends in Canada and so this isn't even rumors.. u cant compare migrating to Uk with migrating to Canada.. abeg lets be logical


https://businessday.ng/news/article/number-of-nigerians-moving-to-canada-drops-20-in-nine-months/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/555132/top-10-origin-countries-of-international-students-at-years-end-canada/

I also attached Nigerians with Canada PR per year

Compare that with the nos that come into the UK..

This was how Nigerians said Dubai will lose out in major revenue and will be hit when they blocked us ... meanwhile Nigeria wasn't anywhere near the top countries visiting Dubai

We seem to just live on emotions and arguments. .. no data.. thats why Nigerian FG will modify the unemployment rate to 5%... everything being emotional.. instead of us to look at the problem for what it is..

you missed one which is like the most dangerous and prominent.. fear of falling victim to the organ trafficking syndicates existing all over the world

No fear whatsoever.

hustla:



Women get mind sha.

0 fear of being trafficked and ending up in Mexico or Albania as a prostitute.

0 fear of going missing and never being found.

0 fear of said person being a possible serial killer

0 fear of being used as a drug courier

I think you need to watch some Forensic Files or Red Tree Crime docuseries on Youtube to understand the kind of insane risk this is

I will not be trending any hashtag for anyone on Twitter

I have read every single page of this forum and the previous forum.. every single page.. and pls lets be honest.. why the lies

Care work has been abused.... has been looked down at... has been categorized like it is some kind of "cursed work"... multiple times

I'm really shocked people will now deny and lie that no one has said shit about Care work.. ahn ahn.. stop the lies abeg

It is really unfair to look down at people's work/hustle.. it is legal work and we should encourage one another

Cheers

i swear because it is never straight forward like that..

Progressivegee:


Yea. I know You are right. Just hoping for the best outcome and giving my self some hope. Let's see how things pan out in the coming months

i thought it was for everyone, irrespective of immigration status..

thanks for posting this

tjsadiq:


You must have permission to access public fund to access the free 30hrs childcare

Quick question please, will the rule of qualifying by earning less than £100k income be for both parents? or one parent?

hmmmmmmm

Progressivegee:
Just thought to post this again. Open to all Working parents. No public funds or visa restrictions. Oga Rishi dalu o

Finally caught up with all i have missed out on here...

Please, my fellow Nigerians, lets be careful with all the migrating without having money for Airbnb or hotel at least..

I'm tired of saying No to people when they ask if they can stay at mine..

I'm tired of looking like a bad person ....

It is really unfair.. saying No hurts a lot but i'm only trying to prevent long story later.. especially in this UK with smaller houses, cost of living, etc.

Also, it is better to say No than to promise to accommodate/support and then fail to do so... that's just evil.. Just say No from the start

It is better you read harsh responses here from people telling you the truth than to be exposed to the harsh reality of weather/financial struggle/renting issues/ etc........

Have a great week everyone

what kind of negative and disturbing comment is this?

Why are you making it a gender thing like Men don't also cheat??

tensazangetsu20:


If you eventually have to go back to Nigeria and marry, let the woman remain in Nigeria. The woman will cheat so make sure you do a DNA test on all your children. Don't take the woman to the UK.

so as long as i pay back within the stipulated time with the bolded below, then i'm interest free right? thanks

Solumtoya:


Currys finance is not a credit builder debt. Use Experian to check for credit you're eligible for. There might be some[b] low limit, high interest cards[/b]. You don't have to pay interest though.