₦airaland Forum

megastu:
I need invoice for a brand new toyota yaris, Honda City or Hyundai Accent. It must be Automatic and with guarantee. My Company's budget is N2M. You can also send it to mibisnow@yahoo.co.uk.

If your definition of "Brand New" is "tear rubber", i got news for you. A yaris of Civic with full options with be in around $18,000-$20,000 depending on the specs. That is full payment out the door.

You will ship, and Clear. Hmmmmmmmmm N2M doesn't sound too much does it.

Even for "almost new" ones with low miles, N2m is still far off unless may be Salvage cars, and by the way you want guarantee. Thats a Toughy

Good luck

To my Fellow NL,

I love to go thru the Auto Section for leisure and read. I am amazed that people still expect to find Non-Nigeria Fresh Toks for 600k or less. Sometimes they will price a car for such.

I just like to give a breakdown for intending buyers of cars especially since the Naira Value is a little weak now.

Average Shipping cost of Standard Car (Honda Baby Boy For Example) $1450-$1500

Clearing in Lagos: N200k -N250k

That is a total of N475k for the Shipping and Clearing. Then you factor in the buying here and profit margin.

Even if you ship to Cotonou, you will only be saving on Clearing, shipping will be about the same. So lets assume N425K total (shipping and Clearing).

So the next time you (or anyone else) is looking for a Non-Nigerian used, Factory A/C, Clean, Low miles, Leather  vehicle and still wanna pay N600k ?

All i can say is Hmmmmmm      But as the saying goes "Never say Never".

I hope you find a cheap car but be careful also what you might end up with 

EZE B:
@Promise72 Please did you say you already have one dozer in nigeria and it is steaming very well? please i would like to talk with you concerning other issues that bother on its performance and maintenance. Pls just send me a mail with your personal contacts and phone number so I can reach you. my email is ezekwere2000@yahoo.com phone 08085562288, 08056112392, 08064008077.

No. That is from Ambyzown. I was planning to get one down the line for rental purposes. Im posted smack right between Ogun and Oyo States. I will still give you a call sometimes though and chat wt you.

You can check Ambyzown for his contact info. Im not sure where hes posted tho.

Good luck.

oranges:
pls modify the interior pic. I think it is not for the veh. advertised

Good observation

carlinks:
true talk, that car goes for1.3-1.4 million in the market

Really? Didnt know it still go that high.

@ Larez,

Im not in Nigeria yet, but i can tell you that there no need to spend $185k on a D6 Dozer. There are competent mechanics in Naija to fix those you just have to find them.

Back to the Dozer, the older the better. Try btw 1985-1990 Dozers. They dont require elaborate diagonistic equipment to fix and ppl in Naija are familiar wt them.

Are you gonna be flying in someone from the US everytime yo break down? Not practical. Buy something "Low Tech" and roll. Good luck.

dont forget to include price too

Oga 190,

Let me tell you a secret. It might be that the price you are willing to pay is the problem. A tear rubber Yaris here in the U.S is about $17-18,000 plus taxes. So all in all, you will probably end up paying $20,000 fully out the door. That about 3million in todays rate. Mind you before shipping!

Even if you find one under 5months use, the depreciation will not have set in yet enough to put it in 1.7mill you wanna pay. (Thats about $11,333) To include buy, ship, clear, profit    Hmmmmm.

Unless you want a salvage one tho. Also remember, US Yaris is 1.5Litre engine as opposed to 1.3Litre in Naija. The above price should get you a Yaris S. Fully loaded. The regular one will only be about $1,500 cheaper.

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Don't forget that you have to ship and clear customs

Below are pictures of Yaris. Blue One is Regular,  Red one is the S edition. Notice the "skirt".

You might wanna consider looking at a 2007, may be it might fit the budget.

Good luck in your search

Junk Galore !!!!

ambyzown:
Promise72 wrote:
Just bring in anything" mentality is why we see a lot of broken down trucks/equipment on the expressway in Naija everyday. Why would a $80,000 machine just give you only 6 months of work? Especially a dozer.

The reason why dozers in Nigeria cannot give you more than six months of trouble free operation is basically due to the Nigerian factor. You can hardly find unadulterated diesel to buy. Because kerosene is cheaper than diesel most petroleum marketers mix diesel and kerosene and sell as diesel. Prolonged use of such fuels causes damage to the injector and nozzles, when this happens power output from the engine drops and in a bid to compensate for the power loss, many operators drive the machine to its limits which takes a toll on the crankshaft.

Lets make some cost comparisons, One brand new D8h/k cylinder head costs N220,000 while the same costs $2100 in the US before taxes
Transmission pump is N60,000 here while it costs $1100 in the US. One brand new crankshaft here will cost you N500,000 but its almost $10,000 in the US. This is the reason why rebuilt dozers cost much more in the US.
My argument is this. If I can buy a machine for $30,000 and it gives me 1 month of operation, (most will give u 2) at N120,000 per day, I can comfortably budget N1m - N1.5m for a spare engine, and be good to go for another 4-5months.

As for the man who spoke about Iron clad insurance, what happens if the dozer you bough with an "Iron clad insurance" breaks down? are u going to ship the dozer back to them for repairs? Have you seen the way bulldozers work in sand quarries? or the way they are used for demarcation work?

I have made my point, He who has ears, let him hear. I currently own a dozer that cost me less than $30k and its steaming quite well. I plan to buy another one sometime in September in readiness for the 2010 season, and I will not pay more than $30k for it. This will be my final post on this matter.

I concour. How about getting the diesel tester? It might help. Whats the used parts climate for thos CAT parts? I need some pointers or someone i can contact  (if you know one). I dont mind dabbling into it.
I believe the D8 runs 3406 engines.
Once again, since you are on ground, i yield 100% 

At all times, i want you to match your expectation to reality. Dont expect a late model car like Avalon or so for that kind of money (even if its flood damaged).

Then the real question is, What kind of car do you have in mind? Either lower your expectation or save more.

It will cost you about $1300-$1500 to ship. Then about the same to Clear. Is $3000 included in shipping and Clearing or just purchase? You need to clarify these things.

I dont care how much you pay for a flooded car, bottom line you will not be getting your worth. You will be frustrated at the end especially if you have a "saltwater floded car".

"Freshwater" flooded car is still OK but i would rather not even touch either of them.

Good luck in your search.

Anbyzown made a good point. However nobody is wrong yet. THERES A REASON A SIMILAR TYPE OF EQUIPMENT COSTS ABOUT $30,000 MORE!

"You always get what you pay for!". If a machine has been rebuild from the top town few hundred hours ago especially by a CAT Dealer, do not expect to pay chump change.

"Just bring in anything" mentality is why we see a lot of broken down trucks/equipment on the expressway in Naija everyday. Why would a $80,000 machine just give you only 6 months of work? Especially a dozer. 

The average wish of a Nigerian Businessman is to recoup today's investment "yesterday" hence so many shortcuts we see. Building collapse, bridge falling, road washout etc.

Lets say you buy a $80k machine and it lands for $100K (with clearing and customs etc)
Average rental per day is about N100,000. So machine cost N15million. That means you will have to rent 150 times to recoup your investment. At least the face value.

By my little calculations here, thats not bad at all. Thats roughly 1300hrs. Then the rest is turning profits or at least beginning to. Whats bad in that? May be im wrong 

Whenever you are buying something like this, the best thing to do even before you negotiate is to get a CAT machanic or appraiser to check the machine out and give you a report on it. It might cost between $100-$300 but it will be a lot cheaper than making a $30k mistake and ending up with nothing more than a paperweight.

if you know how to make that much, you'll not be broadcasting it.

But a D3, D4 or D5 cant move as much dirt as a D8. You'll be there all day

interior? mileage? price? engine?

babeisme:
@ flynx, golf 3 is an european car, not available in the U.S. At least not my side of the U.S.
thanks for your inquiry though and if you ever wanna consider other options, babeisme is here.

babeisme

i think hes referring to Golf Models from 1991-1997. i.e Third edition generations. Otherwise known as Golf 3. You might wanna verify wt him.

Thanks got your mail. 12k minus the posters budget of 30-40k will leave around 18-28k to purchase. Then you have to move around in the US from the point of purchase. It doesnt leave much left.

ambyzown:
EZE-B I believe you can get a good CAT D8h series for your budget. I currently have one in Nigeria and it cost approximately USD42,000
Look around and you will find something in that region. If you cant find one, let me know and I will connect you with the person who helped me buy mine.
However, if its a D8k series you want, you might need to up your budget to about USD 50,000 landed cost.

I sent you email trying to inquire about shipping cost on your dozer from the US. Where in the US it shipped from?

kinda dangerous trying to pay via Western union for someone u dont know before.

EZE B:
Please any one who can help out should email me on the Above email address and anyone who doesnt should Not bother to comment

Sorry to dampen your mood. One benefit of a forum is diverse opinion. I live here in the US and will like to think that im a little "active" or "observant" in heavy equipment stuff. Im just trying to lay it down on you the real story. Shipping a D8 alone is costly. Its one of the biggest everyday dozers.

So if anyone promises you that it can be done, pls be careful. if its too good to be tru, its probably is. Just my 2 cents.

pics?

Making something and making it to acceptable standard is a different thing. For example, if you see the concrete blocks here you will know that standard is different.

When you make the TV to stand on a table or use eleganza fridge. What happens when you get in accident and the thing fly around or worst your head hit the thing and became big injury?

Theres a reason why bridges constructed by these "contractors" collapse all the time while julius berger own no dey collapse. What im saying here is that theres a science behind just stretching it.

Do you want to make it locally or fit for export? Theres various types of welding too. Welding is not just welding. Yuo have to know what type to use in what area. They are not all the same.

The reason Africa dont export much is that we fail to uphold exportaable statndard when we do things. We like too much short cut. That is not good for business.

To all,

Cross Sightedness is fine as long as you are not stupid and have your brains wired wrong.  Ahhhhh the smell of desperation. Their tru color is now showing  

Vagabonds raising more vagabonds  

How i wish i could ship some fools down to Auschwitz    

To all,

Cross Sightedness is fine as long as you are not stupid and have your brains wired wrong. Ahhhhh the smell of desperation. Their tru color is now showing

Vagabonds raising more vagabonds

How i wish i could ship some fool down to Auschwitz

Throw a stone at a pack of dogs, the one that scream is the one the stone hit. My message is to all.

Did i hear some whinning? 

To all,

Hiding behind a keyboard is very easy. It takes a lot of balls to be front and center. Keep hiding "little pikin"

Seen it all before  

Its very funny. Driving requires a license but having children doesnt. No wonder the world is full of a lot of STUPID people. Stupid raising Stupid. This must be a crime.

Stupid as Stupid does

To All,

Cross sightedness is not Virtue. Character and Integrity is. By their deeds we shall know them. I AM VERY PROUD OF WHO I AM!!!. Front and Center. NO HIDING!! NO SHAKING!!! Little minded people attack on petty things when there nothing for them to latch on.

Lack of home training and Small mindedness is Very dangerous for your health.

gestapo:
remin
Stop spewing dusts, you started the personal attack on Inspired man with your above post, you are just a useless cross sighted slowpoke

your cross sighted eyes remind me of our old cat and it looks scary FOOL, Jony Sanders  

Its without a doubt you lack any form of moral decency. Henceforth im taking the high road.

I WILL NOT RESPOND TO YOUR POST DIRECTLY!

gestapo:
Promise72,

you are a positive proof that cross sighted people are mentally retarded, ooni of ife and ayinde barrister which you earlier mentioned are just lucky. i have to submit this prrof to the WHO.

Nothing to hide. Im here front and center. That i cant say for you. Keep hiding behing your keyboard. Keep up the personal attack. Shows how "intelligent" you are

Busy_body:
If the year is posted on the car, are you saying buyers have to be spoon-fed to know it is there I don't leave in Nigeria, so care to tell me what age one has to be to be allowed to buy a car

On this side of the world, there a little thing called "truth in advertising". Diffent things matter to different people in a car. It may be color, shape, year etc. Cars that looks the same might actually have different features on them because they are made one year apart.
Some people might be driving a 2006 model car and they want to drive a 2007 or 2008 even though the 2007 they are planning to buy might not be better than the 2006 they have. They just wanna have the bragging right of saying "i drive a 2007 model"

So if you come all the way from lets say Port Harcourt or Kaduna expecting that you are coming down for a particular year and you get something else. Would you still feel the same?. Think about it.