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Excellent conclusion ...
But is more ... Mary well could have had se.x with the whole neighborhood, and being a virgin ...
It all depends on the type of sex practiced ...
That saves on something the reputation of Joseph.

ifeci: well I wldn't argue wit you on this thread cos I hv deep respect for my religion, mark my Id and meet me on an unreligious thread and I will put u in ur place, I just hope that ur encounter with God wouldn't be ur painful exit from this world.

It's very sad when I see a Christian angry that way.
Not good threat. It's not what our Lord Jesus Christ taught.
He taught to love our neighbors ... you should apologize.
You are a bad image for christians ...

@ Italo:
In addition to bowing before statues of plaster and false belief in virginity, what else do you spend your time?

I apologize for the error in translation.
If you read my post carefully, you will understand that I argue that atheism is NOT a religion.
For a translation problem in the last sentence I write otherwise.
I hope are able to forgive the error.

Logicboy ...
Dear friend ... Saturday we play against Venezuela in the playoffs, here in Montevideo ... Hopefully win ...
I send you a big hug ... and I invite you to take one day kill me here in Montevideo hahahaha!

emöfine2: ^^^
I don't eat it frequently but only when I have assignments and I may have to stay up late - that's where the bitter taste helps me

I wouldn't actually mind trying out that combination with spiced peanut butter and garden egg...sounds slightly appetizing lol.



Did you like the taste?

It tastes bitter, but here in Uruguay are accustomed to bitter taste, considering that drink "mate" the texture is very special ... But it is almost impossible to see here kola nut ...
I like to read about such customs of Africa!

amor4ce: Ptolemeus, know that many tribes/ethnic nationalities in Nigeria have long harbored envy for the Yoruba. Hence their vain attempt to portray us as inferior. It will soon stop for good.

I do not understand exactly what you mean.
You say that the Yoruba are arrogant?
I just opened a thread asking if you were ... but only answered a Yoruba.
I understood then that is not at all proud.
This thread is open.

https://www.nairaland.com/934908/yoruba-people-considered-arrogant

italo: God wants us to come to him through his Son, Jesus who is also God. Together with the Holy Spirit, they make up the Holy Trinity - Three persons in one God.

You are not to dictate how you want to worship God. God is to dictate how you should.

The holy trinity that you cite existed since the year 325 AD. Not before. Jesus never accepted the concept of three gods in one.
When you say that God wants us to come to him for his son ... you talk about the biblical God asking children and virgin sacrifices for him? Of that god are you talking about?

Olaadegbu is absolutely crazy!
Copy and paste the same in all the threads!
Dementia senile hahahahaha
Look at this!

https://www.nairaland.com/898276/gods-perfect-moral-law-explained/2

He has no less serious.

OLAADEGBU: If you want to talk about morality start with answering the following questions conscientously.

With a tender conscience, check this list of the Ten Commandments:

Have I always loved God my Creator with all my heart, mind, soul and strength? ____YES ___NO
Have I made a god in my own image? a god to suit myself? ____YES ___NO
Have I ever used God's name in vain? ____YES ___NO
Have I kept the Sabbath holy? ____YES ___NO
Have I always honoured my parents implicitly? ____YES ___NO
Have I murdered (God considers hatred as murder)? ____YES ___NO
Have I committed adultery (including premarital sex and lust)? ____YES ___NO
Have I stolen (the value is irrelevant)? ____YES ___NO
Have I lied (including fibs and these questions)? ____YES ___NO
Have I coveted (been greedy or materialistic)? ____YES ___NO

If you have even broken one Law, then you have sinned against God and therefore will "surely die," for the "wages of sin is death."

We are all guilty of breaking the Commandments. Listen to the voice of your conscience, and let it remind you of some of the sins of the past. We are not perfect as we are commanded to be (Matthew 5:48 ), neither is our heart pure. On Judgment Day our transgressions will be the evidence of our shame. Think of it: God has seen every sin we have ever committed. We share our thought-life with Him.

We are guilty of violating His Law a multitude of times, yet if we repent, God can forgive us because Jesus stepped into the courtroom 2,000 years ago and paid the fine for us.

His death on the cross satisfied the Law we so blatantly transgressed, and at the same time demonstrated how much God loves us[i]—

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."[/i]

His shed blood on the cross can make you clean in the sight of a holy God, as though you have never sinned.

God doesn't want you to go to Hell. Please, forget your arguments, repent and put your trust in Jesus and be saved from God's wrath. Make Psalm 51 your prayer, then read your Bible

daily and always obey what you read; God will never let you down. Peace.

Hahahaha Olaadegbu is absolutely crazy!
Copy and paste the same in all the threads!
Dementia senile hahahahaha
Look at this!


https://www.nairaland.com/934799/reasons-why-obama-not-christian/12

OLAADEGBU: Your conscience will teach you what the moral level of a true Christian is. And while you are still at it answer the following question conscientously and see where you stand. And this goes for all non-Christians on this thread who are still struggling to understand what it means to be a Christian.

With a tender conscience, check this list of the Ten Commandments:

Have I always loved God my Creator with all my heart, mind, soul and strength? ____YES ___NO
Have I made a god in my own image? a god to suit myself? ____YES ___NO
Have I ever used God's name in vain? ____YES ___NO
Have I kept the Sabbath holy? ____YES ___NO
Have I always honoured my parents implicitly? ____YES ___NO
Have I murdered (God considers hatred as murder)? ____YES ___NO
Have I committed adultery (including premarital sex and lust)? ____YES ___NO
Have I stolen (the value is irrelevant)? ____YES ___NO
Have I lied (including fibs and these questions)? ____YES ___NO
Have I coveted (been greedy or materialistic)? ____YES ___NO

If you have even broken one Law, then you have sinned against God and therefore will "surely die," for the "wages of sin is death."

We are all guilty of breaking the Commandments. Listen to the voice of your conscience, and let it remind you of some of the sins of the past. We are not perfect as we are commanded to be (Matthew 5:48 ), neither is our heart pure. On Judgment Day our transgressions will be the evidence of our shame. Think of it: God has seen every sin we have ever committed. We share our thought-life with Him.

We are guilty of violating His Law a multitude of times, yet if we repent, God can forgive us because Jesus stepped into the courtroom 2,000 years ago and paid the fine for us.

His death on the cross satisfied the Law we so blatantly transgressed, and at the same time demonstrated how much God loves us[i]—

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."[/i]

His shed blood on the cross can make you clean in the sight of a holy God, as though you have never sinned.

God doesn't want you to go to Hell. Please, forget your arguments, repent and put your trust in Jesus and be saved from God's wrath. Make Psalm 51 your prayer, then read your Bible

daily and always obey what you read; God will never let you down. Peace.

They are very general guidelines. Obama meets with them perfectly. Your post just confirms that Obama is a Christian by God's law.

I keep insisting that Mary remained a virgin after the birth of Jesus, as the child was born by the right ear, and thanks for the work of the Holy Spirit.
Mary remained a virgin, but he was deaf ...
Jesus weighed 4,500 kg at birth .. just imagine how was the ear of Mary!

OLAADEGBU: [b]In all of this you are yet to show me one verse where God commanded the practise of human sacrifice for the atonement of our sins apart from the Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world.

Hahahahaha! This is not a contradiction ... is an aberration on your part ....
But as I understand you can not read, I repeat something here ...
You can read Wave?
You are being ridiculous.


"The wages of sin is death." From the beginning of human history, men have sought ways to pay for his sins. Cain offered the fruits of the earth, and was rejected, Abel offered a lamb, and there have been those who have offered even their own children in the Holocaust.

Another Human sacrifices
Judges 11:30-39
Jephthah sacrifices his daughter, who is the first one out to meet him after he defeated the Ammonites.
Numbers 25:1-13
Yahweh ordered the killing of the leaders of the people as "atonement" for the sin of idolatry that had made the people of Israel with Moabite women.
1 Samuel 21:1-9
The Israelites impaled seven people as atonement for the guilt of the people of Israel, Saul had killed the Gibeonites.

(Jeremiah 7:31). . . They have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and daughters in the fire, which I had not ordered and had not gone to my heart. '
So as "destroyed" to the "nations" idolatrous Canaanite Lord also ignored the unfaithful Israelites. They just received their payment by the Babylonians in 607 BCE Similarly, he tidies up with that today directly or indirectly relate to the shedding of blood of millions and millions of people through abominations like war, murder and abortion.

Yahweh takes pleasure in the sacrifices we make to spread his message of the Good news of the Kingdom.
Ex 20.22.26

That's the moral of the shepherds.
Sermons full of prohibitions for believers, but they carry a profligate and luxurious life, with the money you pay tithes of fools ...
Christian morality.
You remember Jimmy Swaggart?

OLAADEGBU: If you want to know who a Christian should be study the life of Christ.

Olaadegbu. Your response is pathetic.
If you want to know how to behave as a Christian, ask Obama, he will teach you what the moral level of a true Christian.

OLAADEGBU: Why don't you point out the passages or verses that you are accusing the Creator God of so that we can address your supposed contradictions?

You want biblical quotations, showing that the Judeo-Christian god demanded human sacrifices and of animals?
Well, here are some quotes, I can offer a lot more.
I remind you that the birth of Jesus, Joseph and Mary offered the sacrifice of animals that corresponded to that birth. Now, I hope you deny eu ... although I know you will as always ... end up talking about other nonsense.
Go!

Leviticus is the book of the ceremonies of the Jewish religion. From beginning to end is full of details as to the kind of sacrifice, a way to kill the victims and the times you should repeat certain ritual. As for the class of victims, animals should be flawless and that the law of God considered clean, namely, that ruminating and had the hoof. At slaughter, their throats cut was necessary, spraying blood around the altar. As for the times that the sacrifices had to repeat, with some it was every year, some other times in the year, and yet another daily

"Every priest [Aaronic Levitical] presents daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins, but he [Christ] had offered for the sins a single sacrifice, is seated at the right hand of God, "10.11,12.

"The wages of sin is death." From the beginning of human history, men have sought ways to pay for his sins. Cain offered the fruits of the earth, and was rejected, Abel offered a lamb, and there have been those who have offered even their own children in the Holocaust.

Another Human sacrifices
Judges 11:30-39
Jephthah sacrifices his daughter, who is the first one out to meet him after he defeated the Ammonites.
Numbers 25:1-13
Yahweh ordered the killing of the leaders of the people as "atonement" for the sin of idolatry that had made the people of Israel with Moabite women.
1 Samuel 21:1-9
The Israelites impaled seven people as atonement for the guilt of the people of Israel, Saul had killed the Gibeonites.

(Jeremiah 7:31). . . They have built the high places of Tophet, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and daughters in the fire, which I had not ordered and had not gone to my heart. '
So as "destroyed" to the "nations" idolatrous Canaanite Lord also ignored the unfaithful Israelites. They just received their payment by the Babylonians in 607 BCE Similarly, he tidies up with that today directly or indirectly relate to the shedding of blood of millions and millions of people through abominations like war, murder and abortion.

Yahweh takes pleasure in the sacrifices we make to spread his message of the Good news of the Kingdom.
Ex 20.22.26
24 th. Me up an altar of earth, and he'd offer your burnt offerings, your offerings, your sheep and your oxen.

amor4ce: I don't see why the descendants of Cain should be portrayed as evil because of the crime perpetrated by their ancestor. Cain settled in Nod (Ondo) and one of his descendants, Tubal-Cain is known to the Yoruba as Ogun. Is it coincidence that Ondo is the center for veneration of Ogun (Tubal-Cain). See for yourself how Tubal-Cain is described in Genesis 4:22 and tell me whether or not that description fits Ogun.

Dear friend:
I not know the details of the story of Cain. What's more, when speaking of Cain, often do not know if you are talking about the historical figure or their descendants.
The Orisa Ogun sits in Ile Ife, from where begins a long journey. Ogun is called Onire (Lord of Iré ...) and is also called (King without a crown), then still seduced by war and did not set in place as King conquered. Do not mistake the place of worship of Orisa, with the people, kingdom, or physical location in Orisa that allegedly lived.
It's more ... you think Ogun effectively lived? It is a spirit? or is an emanation of Olorún? We understand the difference between Orisa funfun and Ebora ?
Despite my best effort and will, I can not distinguish a single similarity between Oduduwa and Melchizedek, between Ogun and Cain ...
Excuse me, dear friend, but I think the African religion, traditions and culture are valuable, they are wonderful by themselves, and need not force any syncretism to be valid.
Respect for Cain in the Judeo-Christian Bible, Ogun and African traditions.
I'm not saying that this is your case, dear friend.
But I wonder why many Africans need to "import" at least some foreign element to validate what they have?
It will be a problem of low self esteem?
And if we value African history as such? Unmixed Odin, Cain, Melchizedek, and Donald Duck?

OLAADEGBU: Stay tuned and all your misconceptions will soon be abated.

Double standards, laws that god does not apply to some and if applicable to other ... no morality, no sense of justice in the conduct of the Jewish-Christian god.
At least ONE of my concerns are voiced answer.

I am quoting the Bible.
You deny that god demanded human sacrifices!
Deny you accept adultery!
No, you better keep your chatter that nobody reads.

OLAADEGBU: You and other pretenders have shown your true colours on this thread. You are rather a contradiction if you are claiming to be a Christian, no?

I said being a Christian?
You should not drink so early dear friend ...
I did some Bible verses .... Analyze them?
Perhaps they are wrong or out of context?
The same Jewish-Christian god demanding love of neighbor, is the commanding sacrificing virgins and children as an offering to him.
You disagree with that?

When we speak of "secular government" is not here to think meanly. It is not expected, that if the state embraces my religion all will be well for me ...
Secularism in the State is positive for all religions, as it ensures equal rights and obligations. State decisions are not influenced by any religion, and that ensures independence and responsibility as well as the rulers must assume responsibility for decisions, and not rely on external decisions.
I think the forum is not exactly understand the importance of the secular state.
I live in a secular country surrounded by countries with official religion, and I can assure you that the difference is very large, very favorable to secularism.
Secularism in the state does not imply atheism, nor prohibiting the free exercise of religious law, by contrast, is guaranteed to everyone equally.
My respects.

I confess that I was always afraid to participate in sects who worship spirits. So I have never come to that.

Kay 17: But Faith plays a bigger role in all martyrs

Martyrs?
Martyrs do you speak?
Of the persecuted Christians in the government of Constantine?
Of the victims of the Inquisition?
From the Crusades?
Of African slaves?
The extermination of American Indians led by the Catholic Church?
Of innocent children and women killed in the bombing of Guernica?
The outcome of the Franco-Vatican agreement?
Of those killed by the Nazis with the consent of the Vatican?
Of the children abused by Catholic priests in the U.S.?
Sorry, I did not realized, can you explain better?

@ barabbas126@yah

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Ptolomeus: No evidence of the crucifixion of Jesus. Like all Christian history, "is a matter of faith.

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Historically the Catholic Church enjoyed privileges internationally.
Without arguing about the Inquisition, the Crusades, slavery, the Vatican's intervention in World War II, etc ... and despite the secrecy with which the Vatican works, has been reported truly amazing, and contrasting with what should be the conduct of the priests, and the Vatican itself.
Pedophi.lia trials and punishment to the Vatican; acts of corruption within the Holy Seat ...
What is happening with the Catholic Church today?
Corruption defeated the faith?
What does the Bible say about this?
Corruption and pedophilia came to the house of God?

OLAADEGBU: To be informed is good but that only reduces you to agreeing intellectually. It is like reading about the Queen of England who is about to celebrate its Jubilee. You can read all you want to read about her but that doesn't give you a personal relationship or connection with her.

When you squeeze a lemon you get lemon juice and when you squeeze a Christian you get Christ.

Similarly, you read about Obama without knowing. You think about Obama, as you can review the Queen of England or the upcoming Disney film studio.
You feel with authority to define who is Christian and who is not.
Is wrong.
Obama is not only creistiano, but represents all Christians around the world in his capacity as chairman of the most powerful country in the world.
Obama is an example of Christendom.
I insist with Guantanamo, the murder of civilians in Iraq, the embargo on Cuba ...
Excuse me if I say something as sharp, but you have no authority to decide who is Christian and who is not.
Obama is a Christian, a Christian landmark!

oiseworld: Christianity is about you and God. and when they understand this they are getting closer to the truth.
its what the religion teaches.

As we read this stupidity, as they continue to debate whether Muslims are good or bad, if Christians follow the right path, while fools argue about who are the ones who throw bombs and why,
CHILDREN IN AFRICA STILL DYING OF HUNGER IS KEPT THE HIGHEST RATE OF AIDS ... STILL ONE OF THE LEAST DEVELOPED WORLD CONTINENTS ...

Very good work of the Arabs and the Christian settlers.
Pathetic!
AFRICA WAKE UP!

Virgin Mary was born without sin (Only Catholics say this) ...
She married, but still remained virgin.
She never had se.x with Joseph (her lawful husband), but what was with the Holy Spirit (yet remained a virgin, or the holy spirit not penetrated)
She had several children, all brothers of Jesus, but remained virgin.
After the first birth of their children, also remained virgin ...
One imagines how it was that birth?
Virgin after the birth of Jesus?
Well, only that Jesus was born of Mary by the ear ...

There are people who believe in all this ...
Not understanding how the shepherds and false prophets, who live at the expense of the fools, the fools who believe this sort of thing?

Hola querido amigo Logicoy.
Cómo estás?
The word religion comes from the Latin, "Religio onis."
It involves a cult and worship of the divinity.
Atheism does not fulfill this function.
Atheism is a theological position, as respectable as any other belief or agnosticism, but does not imply adoration or worship.
Definitely, atheism is a religion.
Vamo arriba la celeste!
Un fuerte abrazo!

You must understand that pastors must have a new car, possibly a private plane, and that someone must pay.
God will be proud you pay tithing, and these high prices of college, for the pastor to live pleasantly ... Though your children not to eat.

Image123: You need exposure you know, i know many places where multitudes will also be imagining that someone claims sleep paralysis is physical. BTW, there is no 'known' cure yet, no? Jesus Christ is not the cure for any sickness as it were. Jesus Christ cures sicknesses, all. You don't know Him, neither have you ever tried Him, yet you claim like you know Him than we all do.

I rarely read anything so paranoid.
I insist. Critics of the traditional religion that supposedly cured with chants and herbs ... say it is witchcraft ... ok.
I do not think going to the doctor, and call on Jesus as the only means of cure is WITCHCRAFT.
What nonsense I have to read here!
Come on, sacrifice a lamb to the LORD! cures you of AIDS and it rains ...
Fools production is increasing lately.

DHead: Sincerely, it is common but I tel u, most of d time it's a kind of demonic attak n all u nid do is to PRAY n cova ursef wit d BLOOD OF JESUS n it wil stop. Jst try it.

You should be responsible. You are playing with something very serious is the life of a human being.
The condition that explains this person should be treated by a doctor.
The medicine has the means to improve the patient.
Invoking Jesus say that this disease is something demonic, in many countries are condemned to prison, because it is diverting medical action. That is against the law, and can kill a person!
Are you an irresponsible!
Incredibly, some critics Ianos crist practices traditional religions, and are not doing anything different.
Invoking God and not go to the doctor is simply a cheap witchcraft.

Shollypopz: why shouldn't he be free?

@ Dorox Thank you.

@ Shollypopz In most countries, lying charlatans who profit are imprisoned. This prevents such charlatans continue robbing the working people. They are real pests to society. Encourage corruption.

In a secular country that would not be allowed.
Everything has a cost.