₦airaland Forum

redsquare: Her marriage to Sullivan is over and it's nobody's business what she does with her life or where she relocates to.

Has the marriage been officially dissolved?

Afam4eva: It's called politics. people will go to any length to get political power. As reckless as some of the statements sound, they can garner a lot of votes based on what they said. They have played on the emotions of the people.

Does it not belittle and demean the President to sit by and watch while such reckless statements were made?

It is noble that you admitted that the statements were reckless.

I would not have minded so much as a Nigerian if the President or any other national symbol was not there.

I would have also ignored it if such statements had been made by anonymous people on Nairaland.

But making such a statement in the presence of the President is a disrespect to that office. That the President let it go also speaks volume about him.

ilugunboy: Am sure the so-called President must have approved of such statement...otherwise he would have publicly rebuke the person that made such.

Years ago...I said GEJ is the most divisive President Nigerians have unfortunately voted into power....some people said it was an exaggeration

....the chicken is coming home to roost now.

May God save Nigeria from the impending armageddon

Oh yes. A strong, intelligent and neutral personality would have publicly rebuked the owner of the hate and divisive statement.

If that type of statement was made in his presence and he said/did nothing (as the President) of Nigeria, it means he endorsed it.

Or could it be that he forgot that he is the President of ALL Nigerians?

The Anambra outing for which Mr Jonathan shunned the FEC meeting and Commonwealth meeting has turned out to be a disgrace and an affront to all men of decency.


https://www.nairaland.com/1516606/jonathan-abandons-fec-meeting-anambra


I can't believe that a President that's worth to be called a President for all Nigerians sat there while someone said Ngige went to join the Awolowo people that killed the Igbos!

You mean a President that swore and promised to uphold the unity of Nigerians was present while this divisive and inciting statement was made?

This is a new one for Mr Jonathan Goodluck.

Italiano1: I dont really know why you or anyone is surprised at such an utterance by this imbecilic president. In the last Presidential chat, Jonathan publicly stated that corruption is not a problem in Nigeria and its effects are largely exaggerated.

Jonathan is an inept, daft and incompetent leader.

A man that blamed other countries for the massive and unprecedented oil theft in Nigeria.

A man that said he was 'weak' when he realized Babangida was interested in contesting for the President under PDP.

A man that consulted IBB for advice when he was the Deputy Governor.

A man that paid the pension of old, retired British colonialists.

A man that pardoned a convicted treasury looter and thief.

A man that absolved a terrorist, bomb-throwing group without any form of investigation.

A man that travels all over the place with large and bloated contingents.

A man that's shielding a Minister that has been indicted by the House of Reps.

A man who blames everybody except himself for everything that's wrong.

A man who promised to unite Nigeria but under whose tenure Nigeria has become most divided and clannish.

Sincere 9gerian: And these are the bandits some people claim will fight corruption more than GEJ if elected? APC (Tinubu/Buhari) plus IBB is synonymous to corruption plus corruption and the result is CATASTROPHE. Hmmm, yeye dey smell!

I agree with you that 'IBB is synonymous to corruption plus corruption and the result is CATASTROPHE' .

But what's your opinion on the statement made by President Jonathan when he described the same IBB as his father and role model?

https://www.nairaland.com/611080/jonathan-confesses-ibb-father-role

See excerpts below:

PRESIDENT Goodluck Jonathan, on Wednesday confessed that he became “very weak” when he thought he would contest the presidential primary of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) with former military president, General Ibrahim Babangida.

Jonathan, who made the confession during his presidential campaign in Minna, the Niger State capital, said he became weak because “General Babangida is like a father to me.”

“Babangida is like a father to me, even in my days as a deputy governor and later as governor of Bayelsa State, I used to consult him. So when it came to the option that I might contest with him, I was very weak, but God knows why and God interpreted it and we never contested the primary,” Jonathan said.

President Jonathan expressed gratitude to the former military president “for congratulating me when I emerged as the standard-bearer of the PDP at the end of the primary” and said General Babangida was absent at the rally on Wednesday because “he had to travel out of the country.”

Jonathan confirmed that IBB was like a father and role model to him. He also said that he consulted IBB from his days as a Bayelsa Deputy Governor.

If, according to you, Babangida stands for corruption, can we then say that President Jonathan has not been able to tackle corruption because the epitome of corruption is his role model and father?

noblezone: hahahaaha.

You dont have to guess!

Everything and everybody APC touches, is "progressive"!

Which is why we are pleading with our Anambra people, pleaseeee, do not give our mandate to the APC!
These people are jobless opportunists looking for to reap where they did not sow!

Now that IBB is a "progressive", you will see how the Nigerian Media will celebrate him.
they will say the man has regretted his actions of the past, we should forgive him and give him a chance.
They can even now allow him to come the West to campaign, if he would campaign for the APC.

As far as I'm concerned, one thousand visits to Babangida by APC cannot whitewash his reputation who lost an opportunity to put Nigeria on a firm hold of democracy.

Babangida wasted our money, resources and time.

taharqa: My frnd, weekly FEC meetings are not compulsory. It was not stated in the Constitution that FEC must meet every week. That is completely within d discretion of d sitting President to so do. In fact, there was even a time FEC meetings were held fortnightly (ie every 2 weeks), b4 it was made weekly. Plus, a President can call for a FEC meeting ANYTIME he sees fit; like this very President did about 3months ago when he called for another FEC meeting on a Thursday afta d usual Wednesday's meeting held d previous day, in order to discuss d Mid-term Budget Strategy Paper...... The Vice President is currently in Sri Lanka, rep Nigeria at d CHOGM meeting there. That's what Vice Presidents do: deputise for their Principals when he/she is not 'able' to personally perform a function...... Now, STOP d Unnecessary NOISE makin. And, go take a late morning Nap or something if you do not know what to do with ya time

1. For whatever reason(s), you are more interested in insults than in calmly reading my posts. Go back to my first post to see what I stated about the meeting and the law.

2. You have only concentrated on the meeting itself. Relate it to what the President left it for in Onitsha. I guess you're just being deliberately hard of hearing.

My points have been made.

I have no time to waste or for endless back and forth. I am not a paid mercenary. You're are here to earn a living.

Thank you.

taharqa: Una dey mind d HYPOCRITES... #BunchashamelessNoisemakers

Let's try to stay on the issues and ignore the name calling.

Ok, they are hypocrites.

Ok, they are shameless noisemakers.

But, have you addressed the issues they've raised other than calling them names?

Aren't they also Nigerians?

The issue is: did Nigeria lose anything by the President's action to shun FEC meeting/CHOGM in favour of PDP campaign in Onitsha?

taharqa: Abeg, SHUT ya mouth joor. STOP Ranting..... Cos a FEC meeting was called-off for just a week, it means Nigeria is in trouble, right? A meeting that can be called, like that poster said, at d discretion of d President ANY TIME he sees fit..... By d way, all these time those so-called G7 Governors and their APC counterpacts hv been gadaviting around d country, 'consulting' with every tom, dick and hilary just so that one of may become President, you guys were hailing them as 'defenders of democracy'; just for only one FEC meeting that has been Postponed by GEJ, una no want let us hear word again because na GEJ..#BladdiHYPOCRITES

1. Show me where I hailed the G7 governors as 'defenders of democracy'. Or when did I become one of 'you guys'? A secondary school kid would not even argue in a shoddy way like this.

2. Even if some people hailed those governors, rightly or wrongly, show me how doing so makes this instant issue right.

3. The FEC meeting has suffered many postponements in the past. This is not the first time. Don't tell me you need to be educated on this. A simple search on this will bring up many links.

4. Alas, you did not address any of the issues I raised. You were just interested in writing 'shut ya mouth joor' and introducing distractions into the mix.

5. Lastly, stop writing like an 'area boy' or a hooligan. It is not good for you. The opening line of your post is very low disappointing. You were ready to remove your shirt and start exchanging blows on a very simple issue. Na wa for some Nigerians o.

AjaraEwuro: Where is the insult? I only made a comment in a country where there is free speech just like you made yours.

Looks like you've chickened out.

What value did your 'free speech' add to the debate?

By the way, free speech does not give you the right to disparage others.

AjaraEwuro: Where is the insult?

Who are the people ranting?

Who are the regulars?

Who are the people whose 'blood pressure' boils?

Also, how do all these address the issues?

AjaraEwuro: the regulars are appearing. Seems their blood pressure boils at the mention of GEJ. LOL. But alas, they can only rant online.

Be bold. Be urbane. Debate the issues. Quit insults.

State the reasons why you think the President's presence at the PDP Campaigns in Onitsha is more beneficial to the country that his presence at FEC meeting or CHOGM. I might not know. Explain to me. For now, you've not said anything other than insults.

I know you will defeat me when it comes to insults. But let's debate this and keep it clean.

Pk001: What is FEC meeting? Is he not the president?
He can call for a FEC meeting today if he wishes.

FEC meeting can be held even 3 times in a week.

Please stop this rubbish jounalism.

How is this rubbish journalism?

The FEC meeting did not hold because the President went to Anambra to campaign for the PDP candidate. Because of the same reason, he also shunned the Commonwealth meeting. In fact, he cancelled his trip to CHOGM to attend the rally. Does this make sense?

Is the President's presence for a party campaign more important than at the previously scheduled FEC meeting where important decisions concerning all Nigerians are usually made? Were there no urgent national issues to be discussed or decisions to be taken? Although there's no law that says the FEC must hold every Wednesday but we are talking about seriousness here.

With the level of underdevelopment in Nigeria, and the fact that all the country's peers have left her behind, shouldn't the President's sleeves be rolled up permanently as he goes full throttle to battle developmental issues? Given the state of the country, is there really any time to waste? If the President must be in Onitsha to campaign, must it be at the expense of the FEC meeting? Must he be in Onitsha on that day?

Vice President Sambo was in Anambra less than a week earlier. He led about 60 people to campaign for the PDP candidate. Then 5 days later, our President shunned an important meeting (except you're saying it's not important) and cancelled a CHOGM trip to be in Onitsha for campaigns. It would have been a different thing if he was in Anambra for developmental efforts. Is Nigeria a serious country at all?

The President could create time and attention for campaigns but he's not been able to create attention for corruption, oil theft, restructure of the federation, etc. So what happens after the campaigns, even if the candidate wins? How many of such governors has the President been able to influence to deliver sound governance? Or what's the essence of this whole charade?

You stated that the FEC meeting can hold at any time the President so wishes. But does that show good planning and order? Do you know how the meetings are run and organized? Does being the President mean that he should not be organized and should be taking knee jerk decisions? By the way, how many times has the FEC meeting held 3 times a week - in order to underscore urgency?


On another note, is it even fair on the other candidates in the Anambra election to have the President and his Vice leave or postpone state work and spend taxpayers' money to be present at the campaign of one of them? Are campaign expenses, direct and indirect, supposed to be incurred by the state?

I put it to you that the costs of the presence of the President at the campaign was borne by the Nigerian state. Is this fair? Don't tell me that this is how it has always been done because it does not make it right. Change must also start at some point.

I think a sitting President, regardless of his party, should be refrained from being physically present at party campaigns. A President is on the bill of all Nigerians/politicians and should not be seen to be given undue advantage to any party. Moreso, the President should also sit down and work. Nigeria, at this its low development stage, cannot afford a President that goes to state campaigns to utter shameful inanities like the number of Anambra indigenes that own private jets.

Controversy: When asked, the security man at the Igwe’s compound, Dauda William, said he was yet to notice any insane person in the family.

“Since I resumed work at the premises over four months ago, the people I have been seeing around are very normal and well,” said William, an indigene of Nasarawa State.

Isn't this part funny?

Controversy: The well-informed and rational minded people of Nigeria are solidly behind you. If there was a Nigerian woman of the year award, Mrs Chime deserves to be a recepient..

This part must be a joke.

Even Dauda Williams, the security man in Clara Chime's mother's house, will laugh at this joke.

NewsINigeria: So when you see your wife kissing on set, you don’t get jealous?

No! Not all. My wife tells me about her acting. Most times she even complains that some actors she acts love scenes with have mouth or body odour that she can’t wait to leave this scene. So I even pity her on what she has to go through and endure being an actress.
This acting thing is just some minute acts and that is it. Will she follow the actor home? Lots of homes have been broken because of too pressure on the wife or even the kids.

Good to hear about the complaints on those with mouth or body odour. How about those with no odour or with good fragrance? Has she ever mentioned this?

For the 17 years that you have been married, what are those special moments you can’t forget in a hurry?

Hmmm! Truly and honestly, I can’t forget the very first day I made love to my wife.

Is this really necessary?

sexkillz: [color=#000030]I don't answer to you, and the issue of moderating and moving threads is not up for discussing with you or any non-mod.

Moderators have a section for such discussions. [/color]

sexkillz: [color=#000030]I moved it on both counts. I move several threads daily without your/anyone's consent. [/color]

sexkillz: [color=#000030]It's none of my business. Suit your self. [/color]

sexkillz: [color=#000030]The thread belongs there, and it'll stay there. [/color]

I think there's a better way to address users, posters or forumers. Seeming high-handed or appearing haughty is not the way to go except you're looking at the forum as being here only for a while. Your style does not fit into a long-term strategy of a forum or organization that's interested in being around for a long time.

For example, I don't think any stakeholder would address his customers, users, patrons, shareholders, audience, spectators, admirers, fans, etc this way and expect most of them to stay with him. The strength of a forum is in the number of its active users which it should strive to retain and grow.

I don't see how the style in the above quoted posts can grow the forum or retain the active users.

I admit that some people could be very difficult and hard-headed but you can be very firm without coming across as authoritarian, arrogant or uncaring.

This is just a piece of advice.

As usual, it is the people that suffer and bear the brunt.

I wonder how much of Enugu state's funds have gone into acquiring several Kia Picanto cars, booking of hotels & guest houses and spending on the notorious Sullivan Babes all in a bid to feed the insatiable libido of the Governor.

There are funds that could have been judiciously used on projects that could impact on the people.

The way the Governor has conducted himself is irritating and shameful. The story is all over Enugu. It looks like he went into the Government House with a huge inferiority complex or a deep psychological problem.

To think that some people even mooted (on this forum) the idea that Chime could become a Presidential hopeful.

Only God knows how many more of his type are in government. Little wonder the country is the way it is.

femogbangba: ^^^^ Simples!!

Abi?

It's either the academic work is available or not.

If it's available, they should refer the poster to the link or location and let him do whatever he wants to do with it.

If it's not available, they should simply say it's not available. No one will kill them.

If they don't know whether or not it's available, they should admit it. If they can't admit it, they should shut up.

There's no point complicating what's manifestly simple.

castielo: If a man shuld go through life without stress and difficulty then he will over look the existence of God. It is called Gods permisive will when God gives the devil power some men and it is Gods perfect will that man be the head n not the tail, above and not beneath. There is no succsses without difficulty or barrier. So God uses the difficulty to give us success if and only if we overcome them. Study the life of job then you will know Gods plan.

This is another confusion from the minds of human beings.

Have you seen someone who has denied God because he didn't go through any stress or difficulty?

If you have not, then why are you so sure that not having stress would turn men against God?

FreeGlobe: is having a PhD a criteria for being president? with that said, I also need to see all the details of how Fashola became a SAN. I have not heard of any court case he won or any contribution he has made to the law profession, besides the way he instituted and withdrew most of his court cases in recent past calls for questioning

You're obfuscating the issues. I also stated in my earlier post that introducing distractions (e.g. the poster's mastery of English or Fasola's SAN or Tinubu's Chicago) won't help your case.

The guy's request is quite simple. He would love to see the earlier work of his President. How's that a big deal for God's sake?

By the way, no one is saying having a PhD is a criterion (not criteria) for being a good President. They're asking to see his earlier work because he's their President and he claims to have a PhD.

The request is very simple and presumably innocent and there's no point to introduce complications, diversions and distractions.

enigmang: Trust me if he didn't actually do a doctorate degree LAI MOHAMMED would have told us long ago....

Your argument is fallacious.

In other words, Jonathan did a doctorate degree because Lai Mohammed has not said he (Jonathan) did not do it.

Na wa o.

FreeGlobe: with your poor usage and mastery of English language, how can you be able to analyse a PhD thesis?

Let's agree that his usage of English was awful but what's wrong in a citizen asking for his President's earlier work?

You've not addressed this.

Set his English or any other distraction aside and address his issue(s).

If he had used the same 'poor English' to support or praise the President, would you have derided him or attacked his person?

caseless: When devil was about to get evicted as result of his refusal to bow to adam, he asked God for one thing i.e "power" , i mean power to woo or lure people of shaky faith, mislead people and power to enjoy followership frm man. These, God has given to him and God also told him that "u can only mislead those that allow u to". If u are trully for God, devil can never permeate ur heart.

Devil asked for something and God gave it to him?

This explanation is not different from the earlier ones.

Iceman296: I Guess you are an Atheist Because no sane Christian would think this.

We are all Tested one way or the other, You just gotta Accept it. Even Our Lord Jesus was tempted too. Its Just a way of God Knowing our Stance in him and what we Can Choose or Sacrifice to be with him.

He is a Jealous God Remember??

Yes, I'm not a Christian if your definition of a Christian is an unthinking, dogmatic robot who swallows everything that's repeated to him hook, line and sinker and who is not expected to ask questions on ANYTHING.

Yet the Bible encourages people to search for the truth.

Can you see how confused you are?

Why should I even be surprised? It is confusion or a total lack of understanding that would make someone 'rudely' refer to God as a jealous being.

Again, this description is another creation of the human mind. Since men are jealous, then God should also be jealous.

God is above all such notions and emotions of jealously, anger, hatred, selective judgement, faith test, etc.

What is getting obvious is that people like you don't have a clear answer to people"s increasing questions and rather than admit that they don't know, they resort to using their own human, imperfect minds to teach/tell us about God.

Someone even likened God to a teacher while another person compared him to Fasola.

berem: I heard he was a lazy lecturer back then at UNIPORT. I also heard he was good at selling handouts and his students always sleep during his boring lectures.
El-Rufai was indeed right!

Someone of Jonathan's communicative ability can't engage any audience for 20 minutes let alone a one hour lecture.

It would be interesting for his former students, colleagues, bosses to speak up on this.

[quote author=@johnsonjosbles]Becareful how you chalenge God. Human in God's hand are like material in the hand of manufacturers, what ever the product obtaind/destroyed frm the material used r unchalengeable.but suficient God's grace even grantd u privledg to post this trend dnt u think? human wishdom can't answer that questn.[/quote]This is another way of using human mind to describe God.

'Don't challenge God' as if God is interested in anyone's challenge.

In trying to explain God, people like you end up belittling Him.

The truth is no human mind really understands God.

kutchs: Fools making noise all over nairaland. Why not take a trip to the Zoology dept of Uniport and ask, am very certain a copy of the thesis must be available at the library.

How can you be 'very certain' about what you've not confirmed or what's outside your control?

Yet you rushed to call people fools!

So who's a fool now?

victorazy: Stvpid question. Ur simply asking why teachers set exams to their students.
OP must be a ......cuz christian cannot ask this kind of question

Your post is a good example of how men use their human minds to describe God, creation, judgement, etc

According to you, God is the teacher and human beings are the students writing exams?

This notion is extremely faulty.

tosingcfr: when God created man,man was endowed with freewill,that is,the ability to choose between good and evil. He could have created us lik a robot but He neva did.

'Endowed' with freewill which can make him choose evil which the man didn't create. And you expect God to punish the same man for using the endowment that was imposed on him?

No one has a lucid grasp of the complexities of spirituality. Stop sounding authoritative. You've only written what has been repeated to you.

Yomieluv: He allowed devil to influence mankind,but still gave us freedom to choose,and know what's good,and bad.the choice is ours..man can't exist without trial,or difficulties in life,we only pray that the trial,and tribulation shouldn't be more that we can bear...God always come to aid when the chips are totally down.

You're saying God initiates trials for man only for Him to come to his aid?

Who created or permitted the so called 'freedom of choice' for man?

Why allow Satan to influence mankind? Why is it necessary?

It is not a crime not to have clear, logical and acceptable answers to the posers of the OP but it's not nice to, in trying to provide answers, cause more confusion.

Iceman296: God Uses Such things to test our Faith and Trust In Him, Take a Clue from the Job's Story.

Don't you think that a reasoning like this belittles the concept of 'God'?

Why should God be interested in testing the faith of anyone or the result of such a needless test? Don't forget, God is supposed to know the end from the beginning. What would it benefit God for anyone to pass or fail the faith test?

The truth is that no religion has been able to clearly and comprehensively explain, without contradictions, explain issues like Satan, Paradise, Hell, Original Sin, Forgiveness, Prayers, Predestination, etc.

The explanations are usually rooted in dogmas and are at best mere conjectures from the mortal minds of men.