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Travel / Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Ralphlauren(m): 5:35pm On Dec 08, 2023

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Travel / Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Ralphlauren(m): 4:16pm On Dec 08, 2023
Yhello4u:
Hi

I have a residential mortage on a 5 year fixed rate

I have only lived in the house for 2 years and want to sell it or rent it out.

Can i change to BTL mortgages if yes will i be charged for it being that i m in a fixed term rate

Also BTL Mortgages are 25% deposit i deposited 10% when purchasing the house will i be required to pay the remaining 15% if i change to BTL mortgage?

Yes, you have to pay a financial penalty for ending the 5 years fixed term early. Check your mortgage agreement.

Yes, you need at least 25% equity in the house.
In addition to the above, the bank will work out the rental yield to see if its a viable BTL investment, apply a very stringent stress test, send out a RICS approved valuer to inspect/value the property and you will also need to pass the bank's affordability checks.

The above criteria is quite stringent which is why a lot of home owners have no option but to sell rather than converting the residential mortgage to a BTL.

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Travel / Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Ralphlauren(m): 9:19am On Dec 02, 2023
Pearlyfaze:
Good Morning great minds.
Please I will need you to look at this and give me your thoughts. We are hoping to buy a property and the solicitor recommended by the developer gave us this quote:
Professional Charges

£375.00

VAT

£75.00

Searches (approx.)

£250.00

Stamp Duty or (FTB Relief)

£0.00

Electronic Client Identification Fee, including VAT (£15 per person)

30.00

Telegraphic Transfer Fee Including VAT

48.00

Land Registration Fee

£230.00

Lender Administration Fee Including VAT

180.00

Lender Panel Fee (if applicable)

42.00

HM Land Registry Searches

18.00

Anti-Fraud Check Fee

36.00

BACs fee

24.00

Lifetime ISA

£120.00

TOTAL

£1,428.00

So it was initially £1668, when I replied his first email, he removed £240 and gave me the above.
Please is this a good deal? Do solicitors charge for having our deposit in LISA?

Also our insurance quote by the Mortgage advisor is huge. Circa 120 for a 25 year deal term and both of us are 40years old.

Looks like a decent quote from the solicitor. I've attached mine for you to compare. Exclude the LBTT/ADS charge and the company House search/charge.

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Travel / Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Ralphlauren(m): 9:15am On Dec 02, 2023
Pearlyfaze:
Make una nor vex biko say I dey ask a plenty question.

The solicitor say make I drop about 600 as a commitment fee, Is this how it's done bikonu, ejoor, mabinu.
Make person nor use me do Christmas.

I was thinking payment is made at the end of everything.


I've never had to pay upfront for legal fees. Its usually added to the deposit, etc and the entire total transferred to the solicitor few days to the completion date.
Travel / Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Ralphlauren(m): 9:14am On Dec 02, 2023
Pearlyfaze:


Thank you very much, We got another for circa 104. And Underwriters came back today and increased it to circa 129.

Is it important to include the kids as extra in this Mortgage Insurance?

Does your quote include critical illness cover? If yes, that might be the reason for the high quote. Secondly, if there's any underlying medical condition or family history of cancer, etc, that might also influence your cost of insurance.

You don't have to include your kids if you don't want to. My policy covers my kids as an additional benefit and I didn't need to pay extra for that.
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 4:38pm On Dec 01, 2023
kwakudtraveller:

You are saying a shit load of bullocks. Maybe where you are from, it’s perfectly legal for landlords to take down doors and threaten tenants after a few days of missing rent but here in the UK where laws and several bodies exist to protect tenants, that LL is in trouble. You sound like you see bullying as a normal behaviour hence your verbose statements. You’ve moved to a saner country now so refrain from the mumu and timid mindset of always letting things go out of fear or meekness and use the laws that exist to protect you to the fullest.

Imagine asking why the guy has not paid his rent after the landlord took down his room door and then locked him out, mcheeew what a silly question.

The laws eh shocked ust the same way Scottish Government woke up one sweet morning and decided to put a 6 months ban on any rent increase for existing tenant. Meanwhile, no be them buy house for landlords or pay their mortgage, etc.

Like that wasn't "bad" enough, after 6 months, they put a cap of 3%. If a landlord wants 6% , they must apply to the rent tribunal. Meanwhile tenant must be given at least 3 months notice for any rent increase and you can only increase the rent once in 12 months.

Landlord and agents are not allowed to collect letting fee. These are some of the stringent conditions landlords must follow.

Now if a government can put all these in place to protect tenants, now imagine the fate of a landlord that decides to go and remove the door to a property where someone resides. Is that not criminal case for the landlord on a platter of gold ? grin

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 3:00pm On Dec 01, 2023
toughest007:


Don't really want to sound insensitive but I would say it the way it is...

You are right. The impression I deciphered from his narrative was that he was like a day or two late and would pay like the next day. If he had paid around that period, things won't have been this ugly.

Its foolhardy to intentionally owe a LL rent cos some blokes on a faceless forum asked you not to pay when same LL has a commitment to pay mortgage on the property. Few days have ran into weeks!

I hope those that asked you not to pay your rent can also guide you through the beseeching turmoil. They appear to have all gone mute.

In the future, you can always cover things like rent with overdraft, and in severe occasions, loans. Try not to be in a sour relationship with your LLs, it's too stressful and a waste of energy and resources. Personally, I don't have time for all these shenanigans... going to court and paying £308 for a case you may not win and still pay the rent, calling the police and going over to their station, exchanging words with your LL and family etc.


You are talking nonsense.

I'm a registered landlord for multiple properties and if I miss a direct debit, the bank will give me ample time to make that payment.

Even if there's financial difficulties, they will offer me several measures including payment holiday, switching to interst only mortage or extending the term of the mortgage or a combination of all three or more options.

Repossession is only the very last option from the bank when all other suggestions fail. Until the legal route is fully explored and concluded, no bank will come to the property to take a pin talk less of removing the door.

This is why you hear people born and bred here talking and complaining about the inability of some migrants to fit into the British culture or understand the legal framework of developed countries.

There's a legal route for a landlord to take if rent is delayed, etc. Removing the tenant's door is barbaric, completely illegal, shameful and should not be condoned.

I'm a landlord. Even if I'm owned rent for 6 months, I dare not go and remove the tenant's door. Are you aware that landlords are regulated? I can't get a mortgage without proof of my landlord registration.

People fail to understand that being a landlord is like any other business. There are risks involved. There's a risk to being owned rent, your property being damaged, etc just the same way there's a risk to me owning a grocery shop or restaurant and not having any patronage and having to shut down in 12 months.

There are rouge landlords which is why as a tenant, you must recognise one and do your due diligence and check to see both the landlord and the property are legally registered with the council before you rent the property.

That we are Africans doesn't mean we should import the lawlessness we are accustomed to in our home country.

She's very lucky to get away with what she did. People like her choose their targets ("tenants" ) carefully. If the tenant was a lady or a family/single parent with a minor, she won't try what she did without the police intervening.

Not all councils have overburdened police force. Try what she did in Scotland and see if the police won't show up at your door step same day irrespective of your gender.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 11:23pm On Nov 29, 2023
giselle237:
she is eligible for reception class the term after her 4th birthday so I believe you are on track.

Term starts in September
Child's birthday is in November
So she can't enrol in primary school until next year.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 7:26pm On Nov 29, 2023
UniqueDext:
My brother, i dont have the keys to the house after she changed it.
Now almost everytime i come back i have to stay outside for 1 to 4 hours until someone from the house is leaving or going inside then i follow up to enter.

Its crazy, the room is also cold with no furniture anymore as she took everything out.

You cant believe what this woman did to me on Sunday with her kids..
They came on Sunday to make mockery of me, with her two little kids of 4 to 6 years i guess..
All where insulting me and telling me how stupid I am and how I sleep in such room, man this kids where throwing insult on me with there mother to the extent that the kids later told the mother that am now looking like a depressed person that she should pity me..

It's really crazy what kind of person the woman is..
I recorded everything without her knowing my phone was on recording...
I really don't want to see this woman get away with all this act she did but I have to find somewhere else to keep my head and have a good sleep..
I have paid for a place now but I still want to collect my deposits and if possible sue her for not registering the deposit on a scheme.
Please if anyone can guide me on how to go about it, I will really appreciate it..

https://www.gov.uk/tenancy-deposit-protection/if-your-landlord-doesnt-protect-your-deposit

Apply to the County Court.

With all the evidence you have (formal report to the police, council, removed door and furniture), you will get your deposit refunded plus the legal cost of filing with the County Court (£380 or so) plus added compensation.

You don't need a lawyer.

As soon as she receives a Court summon, she will be eager to settle out of court.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 7:24pm On Nov 29, 2023
lavida001:


Guy just let it go. This is a lesson to you and others. It crazy out here

Let go £700?
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 12:04am On Nov 24, 2023
UniqueDext:
Update on this issue
Today the landlady worked into my room and was like today your leaving my house and was trying to move my stuffs outside..
Immediately I picked up the phone and called the police, she started to denying that she's not throwing me out of the house..
Now what happened is that she came with her kids and trying to claim that this is her house and I have contacted the Council housing department already about her visits but I would like to know if there is any legal way I can deal with this please.

This woman thinks that I meant be scared or I don't know the law in UK, which is the reason she has been doing all this..
I can tell you that all the other tenants who has lived in this house have issues with her and that's why they leave.. including the ones that moved out from my room before I move in.. everyone 100% has issues with her and she always treating to remove their door but never did because she's also scared of what they will do to her..but in my case, she things I can't do anything because am quiet guy.
4 months ago he made new tenant who just came to the UK to go out midnight at 1AM to pay house because the person told her he has it in cash and will send it to her tomorrow when he go to bank, but this woman insisted that he must pay the money that night otherwise she will come and remove he's door...

He has always treating to remove tenant doors but never went ahead to do it until now,she did it to me..

Please I would like to know how I can take this case to court, getting lawyers and anyway I can deal with her for all the abuse and harassment.

What did the police say?

Have you had a call or email response from the council regarding your complaint?

Have you contacted the charity, shelter?

She's obviously operating an illegal HMO hence why she's pretending to live in the property with her family.

I'll suggest you don't pay her the rent or pack out until she returns the door back to its hinges.

Do you know if she registered your deposit with an approved deposit scheme?

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 12:01am On Nov 24, 2023
Dimdim8593:
Good evening everyone
I am currently in the uk working for bank as a financial crime investigator, although I am still on my probation stage.i was suspended for gross misconduct(legitimacy of reference(uk)) I provided for them during my background checks,initially this check came back successful but months into my employment ,I was suspended for the reason above.after fact finding meetings I had with my manger,my case was moved to disciplinary hearing. I am confused as to what to do ,should I resign with immediate effect which I have read that the company can sue for breach of contract as I have a week’s notice or should I go for the hearing and defend myself.
Note:their concerns is for the reference I provided with a company I did bootcamp and voluntary opportunity with. I actually worked on cases with this company with the duration I put in my cv.
Please house help me with advice

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10510361/amp/NHS-doctor-struck-paying-bank-worker-100-fake-CV-bid-new-job-finance.html
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 11:29pm On Nov 19, 2023
UniqueDext:
I have contacted Shelter and feel the application and everything..
Now waiting to hear from them.

Thank you so much

Have you followed Ticha's advice regarding reporting to the council and checking if your landlady has a HMO licence (if the property meets HMO criteria)?

You need to inform the council ASAP. if she has the audacity to remove your door, the next thing she might do is cut off electricity or hot water supply.

She's a rouge landlord and needs to be taught a serious lesson.

https://www.london.gov.uk/rogue-landlord-checker

https://www.london.gov.uk/programmes-strategies/housing-and-land/improving-private-rented-sector/report-rogue-landlord-or-agent

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 7:04pm On Nov 10, 2023
solveabode:
Good day to you all.
I am at the verge of buying a property through Mortgage. I am less than 2 years in the UK on skilled worker visa and wife is just 8 months in the UK.

I have seen a house of interest and offer has been accepted. I got a Mortgage in principle from a small lender through a broker who requested for 15%deposit as a result of my status of not yet lived upto 2 years in the UK and accepted my wife to be included in the application.
My concern is this, the lender is requesting for 2 years fixed rate of 7.4%.
Please advise.
Thank you

This is very steep.

What's the loan amount and term?
Travel / Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Ralphlauren(m): 6:55pm On Sep 21, 2023
tshoboy:

I did and also called the bank directly. The underwriters did not add a reason. My mortgage advisors have emailed them and fingers crossed for their response. Valuation, source of income and affordability all checks out. So it was really weird.
The problem now is that there are no other lenders asides Barclays that accept 10% while you are on a visa 😢. Really disappointing.

If anyone knows any other lender, please let me know.

Did they eventually tell you why your mortgage application was declined?

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 6:17pm On Sep 20, 2023
Taal17:

As if I knew
Na confirmed scam
UK we hail o

People should learn to always research and apply common sense.

If the salad master pots are SO FANTASTIC as they claim, why are they not sold online, in shops or even amazon ??

They perpuate their scam by this referral/direct sales method.

They claim their pots prevent cancer, etc.

I remember looking up the website years ago and when I saw their CEO with a full blooded nigerian name embarassed i knew they were up to no good. grin

https://saladmaster.com/executive-bios#:~:text=Ayo%20Olaseinde%20is%20a%20self,sales%20journey%20in%20January%201982.

They actually make "forever living" sales agents look lie saints. grin

I don't even know which is upsetting me the most - the price of the pots or the fact that his wife took a finance deal with full interest to buy them. angry angry

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 3:40pm On Sep 20, 2023
yolkman20:


I believe my uncle's wife is a friend to the lady who supplies the pot, she works with a company who owns a franchise with salad master. So she brought the pot to her house when my wife was there and as standard, they have to use the pot to cook for you in your house to educate you on how it works and all of that. We moved it all to our apartment that same night.

We paid for our COS ni o, it wasn't even free.

On spot, you'll them set a DD for monthly payment. The pot itself if 2900 while the total payment after installment is 4200. I have been keeping mute just to avoid issues but it's getting choked.


So this salad master scam is still ongoing ? undecided

The pot they use for the "demonstration" is not the same pot that is sold to you. You will be given an entirely new set of pots.

What your inlaw has done is pretty mean and just utter wickedness.

£4200 for stainless steel pots (yes, salad master is nothing but glorified stainless steel?

How much is Le Cruset (cast iron) pot set?

My Mrs has indulged their nonsense and sat through their presentation three different times and she hasn't budged.

Why would anyone buy stainless steel pots using finance or pay £4200? undecided

I will suggest you lodge a formal complaint compliance@saladmaster.com and include keywords like pressure selling, vulnerability, no affordability checks, consumer duty, etc. I will also suggest you complain to the financial ombudsman service too.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 5:08pm On Aug 26, 2023
bigtt76:
Are you suggesting here that dependent is not married to the MA? 😳

Did she declare the kids at the point of applying as dependent to the contracted MA? If not then she would have plenty shalaye to make. All the best to her.

Nigerians shaaa.... They will abuse everything 🤦🏿‍♂️


I'm surprised this arranged marriage is news to you and some people on this thread. Lol.

Go to X (formerly known as twitter), you will see people shamelessly advertising/soliciting for "dependents" under this "sham" marriage agreement.

If its that bad on X, now imagine other platforms.

The current abuse of UK immigration system is soooooo bad. I have never seen it as bad as this before. undecided
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 3:04pm On Aug 13, 2023
koonbey:


Didn't mention ILR. It mentioned leave to remain which is the technical term for a visa that grants residency status (even temporary).

I don't see any reason to doubt that it's real. Only thing I'd point out is that what they both have in common is switching before finishing their studies. Maybe that's why they had additional scrutiny?

Edit: I actually doubt these, especially the one that says 'Tier 2' because I don't think HO uses that term anymore since the end of 2020.

Those letters are 100% genuine.

There's no reason why HO should not use the term "Tier 2" in official communication. Its a valid visa category and you can find the terminology on their website just like Tier 1, Tier 5, etc.
Travel / Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Ralphlauren(m): 7:39am On Aug 07, 2023
dupyshoo:
Go and check your facts right. It is mortgage fraud!!

100%

Travel / Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Ralphlauren(m): 11:56pm On Aug 06, 2023
SamReinvented:


This is simply not true. As long as the property deed is not in both their names and the mortgage was taken individually, couples can individually be first-time buyers at different points. And no, it is not mortgage fraud.

I no get strength to argue sha. So if you disagree, no wahala. smiley

I don't have the strength either to argue with facts. Google is your friend.


https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/feb/24/does-being-married-stop-me-from-being-a-first-time-buyer

https://www.nutsaboutmoney.com/mortgages/my-partner-is-a-first-time-buyer-but-im-not

https://mdjmortgages.com/can-couples-retain-first-time-buyer-status-if-one-partner-has-previously-bought-a-home/

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Travel / Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Ralphlauren(m): 8:38pm On Aug 06, 2023
Solumtoya:


That's sleek, man. Yet another point for Scotland!

Properties tend to rise quicker in value in
Engalnd though.

If the properties I own were in London for example, I would have retired by now. grin

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Travel / Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Ralphlauren(m): 8:13pm On Aug 06, 2023
Solumtoya:


Nice!

You were lucky to see an apartment that is freehold o. That is extremely rare. My friend bought a leasehold flat and the way they increased the ground rent and service charge recently, the guy has been bleeding.

Scotland. All properties here are freehold. Whether its a flat or house.

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Travel / Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Ralphlauren(m): 8:07pm On Aug 06, 2023
lightnlife:
Happy Weekend!

Just had a discussion with a friend and it'll be nice to get more informed input.

Is it advisable for a first timer to get an apartment instead of a semi/detached house?

Essentially, pricing/affordability is responsible for this apartment consideration over a semi/detached structure. For context, the average newly built 2/3bed semi/detached house here starts at 400,000. But the apartment costs (2/3 beds, newly built) starts at 250,000. Apparently, it'll take a shorter time to raise the deposit for an apartment and the need to get more value for rent over time.

Another consideration is leaving the current location, due to pricey properties, to somewhere with lower rates and similar opportunities in terms of work. Some areas have full house (newly built) for 250K. grin

What are your thoughts please?

My first ever purchase was an apartment. Maybe one of the best £12,500 investment I have ever made in my life. Like you, I didnt want to wait any longer by saving for a larger depoait for a house whilst still renting.

Without going into too much personal information, that flat is now a buy to let with about 15years left on its term and a balance of around 130k on the mortgage. Apartment is currently worth around 200k. After deducting the mortgage from the tenant's rent and the quarterly management fee (factor fee), I have surplus every month to overpay the mortage.

Now this is the best bit: within the last 5 years, I have remortgaged this apartment twice and pulled out about £45k which I have used part of it to buy another semi-detached buy to let (topped up the rest of the deposit and legal fees with my savings) and pay stamp duty costs whilst still retaining at least 25% LTV (literally equity) in this flat.

Once the mortgage is fully paid off, I have so many options.
1. Sell outrightly and get at least 200k
2. Continue to rent with guaranteed rental income.
3. Sell my current home 🤑🤑🤑once the kids have finished university, "downsize" by returning to live in the flat

The flat in question is a freehold with underground parking, free onsite parking, concierge and a residents only gym. It's located not too far away to a big supermarket and it has a Catholic school in its catchment area.

The management fees covers EVERYTHING - Building insurance, cleaning all communal areas, gardening, lift repairs, maintenance of the gym, etc and it is split evenly across all homeowners in the development.

If you do your due diligence thoroughly and buy the right apartment, you might become an "accidental landlord/property investor" like me. grin

People tend to "demonise" flats not realising that they are extremely popular in the rental and sale market with young adults, newly married couples and retired people.

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Travel / Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Ralphlauren(m): 7:39pm On Aug 06, 2023
Solumtoya:
But I did some digging and it seems you guys are right. As long as we're married, the Government sees us as one so once a spouse has person has bought a property, the law sees it as both people have bought a property.

Exactly. It doesn't matter if you were married in the UK or not or if Mrs is using her maiden name or not.

The onus is on the solicitors to "collect" the stamp duty on behalf of HMRC and they take this responsibility very seriously. One/two simple questions and one piece of documentation is all they need for the bells to start ringing. Once it rings, the solicitor/broker will search land registry using Mr or Mrs details and they will be see all properties owned in single or joint names.
Travel / Re: Living In The UK: Property,Mortgage And Related by Ralphlauren(m): 6:20pm On Aug 06, 2023
Solumtoya:
I'm happy with the good progress on Mortgages for folks here. Quite encouraging.

I changed my mind recently not to buy with my wife jointly to take advantage of the stamp duty-free purchase for first time buyers twice. That way, we can buy again without stamp duty using her name next time. Unfortunately, half of our savings for the house is in her LISA cheesy so we have to save further.

I think couples buying together should consider the above.

This is not allowed. It is mortgage fraud and you can very easily be found out. 100%

I'm not going to share how very easily either the broker or solicitor or both can find out.

Once either party buys a home, the other party does not qualify as a "first time buyer"

A married couple where the MRS was still using her maiden name on all official documentation was found out. Doing a simple name search on land registry is easy peasy.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Ralphlauren(m): 6:36am On Jun 02, 2023
marylandcakes:


My council tax is almost 4k per annum, so count yourself lucky.

marylandcakes:


I don’t have to justify myself to you or anyone else. It baffles me when people without doing any kind of research find one way or the other to doubt people’s statements especially on this thread. That’s why I just read and pass most of the time because a very few minority here feel that they know everything and every other person is a liar. If you are expecting me to place my ct bill on here to make you feel good that’s not going to happen.😒😒😒

I read the guy's comment and just shook my head. You said yours in "nearly" 4k.

I have attached a screenshot and links for Edinburgh Council and Cornwall that clearly shows council tax of over £4,000 a year and yes, non-white people are paying such tax a year.

It's the same way a person was doubting an individual with an income of £75k. Smh

Infact, let me keep my words and thoughts to myself before justwise gives me a ban. tongue

https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/council-tax/council-tax-bands/2

https://www.cornwall.gov.uk/council-tax/your-council-tax-bill/council-tax-2023/council-tax-bands-2023/

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Ralphlauren(m): 7:58pm On Apr 27, 2023
BorisJohnson:
People I haven’t seen in a long time:

RalphLauren


I'm good. Thanks for checking. I hope you're doing okay too smiley
Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Ralphlauren(m): 12:00am On Feb 28, 2023

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Ralphlauren(m): 10:34pm On Feb 27, 2023
Viruses:


What happens if the govt takes custody of the kids and you just leave the children with them till they grow up maybe to adulthood?

Also does govt just take the children and that's all or they jail the parents?

Kids either live with a family member or they go to foster care and might end up adopted by completed strangers. Court might decide father or mother or both parents poses a danger to the kids and give them limited or no access to them.

A court order is needed for the government to take custody of the kids and only a court order can release those kids back to their parents. In this country, nobody jokes with a court order especially where kids are involved.

With adoption, the parents have no contact whatsoever with the kids. Infact contact ceases few months to when adoption proceedings are finalised. Once the child clocks 18, they can decide to look for their parents of they choose to, however research shows this rarely happens as these kids are too bitter and angry that the actions or inactions of their parents landed them in foster care/adoption.

Parents do not necessarily have to go to jail to have their kids removed. I have seen instances where police didn't invite the parents to the police station because they were sure no crime had taken place yet social service approached the courts and successfully obtained an order to take the kids to foster care.

In summary, different scenarios can play out but it's not an experience any parent should ever pray for.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Ralphlauren(m): 9:42pm On Feb 27, 2023
Odedenshi1:


Yes, I think it is.

I sincerely need all the help I can get as I have just been made aware by the Family Support Worker that he has made a referral to LADO. I am just confused and worried because of my profession, I don’t know what to do.
Please anyone with a useful information that can help my cause kindly reach out. These people are seriously on my case even though I have not been found wanting, it is even my wife that is even stricter with the children. Now they are trying to attack my career, to destroy everything I have laboured for…

Hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

They might ask that your kids have a full medical examination to see if there are signs of abuse on their body (whip marks, bruises, finger nail marks on their upper hand, etc)

If you've not already done so, examine your kids and have a plausible explanation for any mark on their bodies, so that you are well prepared.

If you've abused your kids and left them with scars or marks or bruises, your own don be be that undecided lipsrsealed

If no marks or anything concerning is found, you might be able to get away with attending parenting classes/courses and social services might close the case.

Odedenshi1:
. The Police & Social worker came to our house checked round and stated that there was no evidence and dismissed the case with the Social Worker recommending and documenting that we shouldn’t be forceful in making the children do their home work in a way that will harm them, we agreed, signed the document and they left.


Were you forcing your kids to do their homework? Did you leave them upset and very distressed over completion of their homework? Harming a child doesn't have to be physical- it can be mental or emotional harm.

For you to have signed/agreed to the advice/recommendation from the social worker on this issue suggests you must have done something wrong in terms of your parenting style (intentionally or unintentionally)

For those suggesting legal advice, lawyers aren't really interested at this stage until the kids are removed from home through a court order. Lawyers fees for such child protection cases start from minimum £200+ VAT PER HOUR.

The best lawyers that handle such cases are usually very busy with some not accepting new clients. The threshold for claiming legal aid for such cases is also very high.

So it's in your best interest to do what you can to avoid legal intervention.

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Travel / Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Ralphlauren(m): 2:25pm On Feb 24, 2023
Zahra29:


There were at least 5 high profile cases last year of children who died from parental neglect and abuse, and social services came under huge criticism for missing the signs and not intervening to save these young children
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Against such backdrops,safeguarding laws get tightened and government response gets stronger. So you can't really compare what happened in 2004 with what will happen in 2023.

Not all that long ago, UK teachers used the cane frequently as an accepted form of punishment, especially in public schools. Things change...(rightly or wrongly)

Well said. This particular story was terribly sad.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10267013/amp/Arthur-Labinjo-Hughes-stepmother-GUILTY.html?ico=amp_articleRelated_with_images

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