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MuttleyLaff:
Group that is actually persecuted, they arent not claiming but they outrightly are discriminated against, threatened with death, maimed or assaulted etcetera

Okay.

Ranchhoddas though you arent a believer but knowing what you know about the believers' faith and God, say for the sake of this convesation, you are a believer, would you like to be with a God who hates two consenting adults, in a faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour?

A believer in OMNIPOTENT deity? How about using some of that omnipotence to make them not unnatural gay.

You dont know what true and pure religion that is faultless is. If you did, we wouldnt be having this discussion sitting down and facing each other at opposite sides of the table

There is no such thing as "true and pure religion". Only exists in the minds of the believers. I'm sure Jihadists think their religion is "true and pure". If there were any such thing it would be apparent to everyone, or at least the majority.

Until you tell me what is the evil in two consenting adults, in a faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not harmful to an object or neighbour then you aint getting that "a Bible portion supporting homosexuality"

There is no such Bible portion is there? I'm sure I would have come across it if it existed. Only by sophistry can this be pulled off.
Their behaviour is unnatural as far as I can see. You can't love a man without wanting to get in the sack with him abi?
Disgusting.

openmine:
and also lose scandalously and disgracefully in your next three prem games okay? Gracias kid

Intentional losers

openmine:
Am glad we both agree about that!

Please lose intentionally to Bayern again. Thank you.

openmine:

seriously am beginning to believe you are a kid behind that keyboard! No pun intended!
Seems you really need to be schooled or even shown that there is a difference between the FA cup and the premier league
I won't be surprised if you thought Liverpool were actually playing a premier league game against wolves...and you might still be thinking the loss has reduced the points with Manchester city
Please tell me...did the FA loss take out our 4 point lead?

That Fa cup was an unnecessary distraction!
Am even happy and elated that we are out of the FA CUP...this will ensure that we concentrate fully on our goal which is the ultimate price: The English premier league!

For the fact that you even remembered my moniker shows that the uppercut dished out to you at the other thread hasn't subsided!
Chai chai sorry ohh i didn't know my untamed gibe broke your shallow ego
No vex!!

I know.

Liverpool lost intentionally.

MuttleyLaff:
Tutu gave a father's blessing to his daughter's gay marriage, he couldnt give a priest blessing.

Probably. That guy was an anti-apartheid campaigner, there is no way he can but seen as anything but supportive to a group that claims persecution.

You remarked: "You must be the only person on the planet with this view." so I gave you two names; Anglican and Catholic
Nothing to do with do I agree with everything Bergoglio and Tutu stands for

I still stand by it. The archbishop and the pontiff do not take their positions by quoting the Bible. Do you have a video of either of this men preaching that the Bible supports homosexuality. Their positions are political.

What I mean by the last line is that you are doing what is called cherry-picking. Selecting a statement from people that suits you even when you might not agree with every other thing they say/do just to advance your position. That can't be right, especially if the discussion is a matter of religion.

I doubt it would make any difference to you, even if I tell you, especially with the aspect of in light of scriptures,

Unless you want to show me a Bible portion supporting homosexuality, it won't. Every other thing sounds like sophistry. As far as I know, all biblical references to homosexuality are condemnatory.

The specialist bottlers are about to do it again.
Openmine abi wetin be that your name.

MuttleyLaff:
Ranchhoddas was saying and asking me:
"Have you been able to convince anyone that homosexuality is approved in the Bible?
You must be the only person on the planet with this view."

My response was:
Archbishop Desmond Tutu and Jorge Mario Bergoglio popularly known as Pope Francis, to name just these two (i.e. Anglican and Catholic). Tutu said he doesnt want to live in a homophobic heaven whilst Pope Francis said transsexuals and gay people should be embraced. He told Juan Carlos Cruz, a gay man: "God made you like this and loves you like this"

Funny.

I hope you are familiar with the term "political correctness"?
That is what these men do. Has a gay wedding taken place in St Peter's Basilica?
I will take the pontiff seriously when he presides over a gay wedding.

In any case my question was to you. Have you convinced anyone in the light of scriptures?
Or do you want to tell me you agree with everything Bergoglio and Tutu stand for?

MuttleyLaff:
I am beginning to be on the verge of nursing the thought of you not anymore being worthy to respond to Ranchhoddas.

Fair enough.

Have you ever seen or heard anyone physically and/or directly move a mountain from here to there Ranchhoddas?

He was using metaphors.

Of course, because of a faith as small the size of mustard seed, the Wright Brothers persisted in their little faith, now because of that we now defy the law of gravity and enjoy being thousand miles in the air, without risk of plummeting to down to earth and our death.

Why you think this is a suitable analogy is beyond me. It's exactly the same thing as your "god of Nairaland" example; just terrible in the context. I will not expect Jesus to build a plane the same way he heals sick without prescribing drugs.

is because someone's faith that started as small as a mustard seed size and the invention that came out of that faith, made it possible to move a mountain from here to there with invented massive earthmoving machines or explosives.

And this is what Jesus meant? Gosh. Remember He cursed the fig tree before he said that. What rule did he obey then. With what rule did he raise the dead?
He could turn water to wine. Did he go through the steps with which breweries turn water to wine today.

Now tell me Ranchhoddas, if I say, I am so hungry, I can eat a whole horse. Is that a fact and truth, or is it a hyperbole and exaggeration?

If Jesus said that, then I'll take him at his word. When he needed money, he commanded people to get a coin from the belly of a fish. Which rule did he obey then?

Would you also say, where Jesus recommended cutting off one's hand to prevent sinning is not a hyperbole?

I'll take Him at his word. If you cut off your hand to escape hell assuming that the place is all it's cracked up to be, then it wouldn't be too much of a sacrifice would it?

Did you not read where and when I said, "... used extreme exaggeration to make a point and show emphasis". Emphasis on what? Faith!

The words of Jesus should be taken literally. He multiplied food literally. How do you decide which is hyperbole and which is not. If you were present when he wanted to turn five loaves and two fish to food for thousands, you would have claimed it was exaggeration then wouldn't you?

You're beginning to fall from my hand. Ranchhoddas, I've asked you to go list everywhere in the bible where abomination is mentioned and what it is mentioned with (e.g. abomination verse Leviticus 11:12 mentioned with or about lobsters, shrimps, crab etctera) but what have you done except other than procrastination.

The Bible is not my creed for all the reverence I have for it. I expect straight answers from people when I ask questions, not assignments. Have you been able to convince anyone that homosexuality is approved in the Bible? You must be the only person on the planet with this view.

I am OK with enemies slapping me in the front & on my face, but hey dear friend Ranchhoddas, here's your knife back, pulled it out of my back

Kikikikikiki.
You are a strange fella...

I've never seen anyone as adept in turning the Bible on its head as Muttleylaff.

Suddenly a mustard seed is hyperbole. How on earth can that be.
What Jesus was saying was that you can achieve great things little faith.

Any other explanation is just...

Dude, I must admit that you have made a sound argument and I do not really have any counter argument except those of an arcane nature.

From a strictly material standpoint, I fail to see how anyone can beat your logic.

I think you should have opened this thread in the religion section.

You get so many likes because they are of no value. If there was a way to earn with it, you'd be amazed at how difficult it will be to earn them.

Jester!

MuttleyLaff:
You're talking as if it is ordinarily about being just a common tranny full stop.

Are you aware Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27, is a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, where at, Paul, is echoing what happened around when Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 was issued is prevailing again in his time. India is the last bastion of where that practice practised by the Canaanites in Leviticus times and by the heathen gentiles in Paul's time is still done. I have extra biblical records and museum artifacts corroborating this, even the Bible when read in its original textual form before its numerous translations confirms this too.

God is saying, you are not subjecting in these acts on My behalf, I do not approve of these acts, you can't obtain favour, blessing or anything good from Me for indulging in this acts because I find it repulsive. It is not fair, not right, it is an abomination.

You have not cleared anything so far.
Hit the nail on the head.
How is an "abomination" suddenly acceptable?

budaatum:
Seriously? Was billy this uncivilised? Guess I never knew him, but this hell incarnation, if billy, would explain why he needs to keep dying and resurrecting under new guises. One would expect him to have learnt manners by now though.

There's no way in hell that's Billy.

MuttleyLaff:
Watch this space Ranchhoddas. You will need a stool to sit down on first though before you start to read the low-down on "abomination" when I do to mention your moniker about it.

There are many abominations mentioned in the bible, some God tells who should find what abominable, some are to be abomination for humans, and He states them or what is abomination to humans and some are abomination to God, He expressly states what He detests or what to Him is abomination.

Ranchhoddas, now, this is a taster of part of what to expect from me on the lowdown on abomination, and on what Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27, which is a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, where at, Paul, is echoing what happened around when Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 were given, that is happening again during his lifetime, do a Google search on the word "jogappas" whilst you await me.

Wayo wan start be that.

I am waiting. I am not sure what Indian trannys have to do with anything.

Anas09:
The Master already already has me, hand and foot.

Ta.

Your name is already on our list.

Anas09:
The Master already already has me, hand and foot.

Ta.
Your name is already in our list.

Muttleylaff na so you just allow this "abomination" matter end abi?

Anas09:
One of you as in??

Don't fight it. The master wants you.

Anas09:
What is this abt? Why am i mentioned with this bunch?

You are one of us.
Whether you like it or not.

IamPlato:
yea She Deactivated... I Think She Is A Popular Nairaland Who Did That

Yea.
You know what they say.

When one one door shuts, another opens.
Have a little faith.

MhizAngel99:
OP, you have time o

You ran away away from our interlocution.
I thought you had gone off grid.

IamPlato:
well she Refused Replyin any More Messages

Eeeeyaaa.
That is why I have a problem with this self-appointed FBI agents.
They don't know the extent of the evil they perpetrate with their zealotry.

I sought her out.
Seems she has deactivated.

IamPlato:
She Refused! She Said Someone Told Her I Was A Scam.

Are you?

You should have pleaded your case. You go by the name Plato for heaven's sake.

I love Confucius. And since we are quoting the great man let me give you another of his pearls:

True knowledge is to know the extent of one's own ignorance

openmine:
Sorry you don't know me.....but I know your type! Whining over a footie club side that doesn't even know you exist! Now keep nagging like an overgrown baby because of footie!

E don do Oga. Bye!

openmine:

crying over a soccer club?
Are you seriously serious?
Guy I got better things to do than cry over a footie club!

Maybe you were crying,pained and frustrated when you lost 3 times this season,but not me!

Klopp is an analyst and a coach.....he gave his own opinion!
Why is that ur problem!

Guy go find better thing do....your endless and regurgitated "cry river/ocean" is getting hilarious!

I take my cues from you.
Cry cry baby.

openmine:
Guy am just a supporter not a crazy fan like you who keeps churning out repetitions to sound soccer smart!

Tell yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.

No...abeg try go cry on top the world since that is your job spec on earth..

Cry cry baby.

Even Klopp is crying that Kompany should have been sent off.
Save your tears. There will be bucketloads of them come May.

#Guardiolasblueandwhitearmy.

openmine:
Guy you are sounding like a 1750 broken record....
Your uncoordinated repetitions are too stale and unintelligible!
cry you a river becos of a loss or a club that won't pay you nothing for winning or losing?
Guy try reason small nah....
why all this nagging because of a single loss by Liverpool?
Hope you don't do the unthinkable when Liverpool lifts the trophy by may....

loserpool kor
Guy there is a saying that when you endlessly keep calling a person or thing a loser,you will automatically become one!
Be mindful about what you say this year!

E does not affect you yet you keep typing long responses.

Cry me an ocean biko!

princfred:
Who doesnt know that Nigerian girls usually play reluctant after activating the man? Are you a learner?

Go and sleep!

mistarsam:
First person to quote me at 2pm on the dot gets 1gb MTN data

Hmm...

This cow just threw the girl under the bus. Disgusting.
Only foolish people will believe this nonsense.
From what I saw on the video, the girl looked reluctant. He was the one wanted it filmed.

What a liar!
I'll strangle this guy the first chance I get.