Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by Ranchhoddas: 1:33pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
MhizAngel99: Classic "God of the gaps" argument LoL.
Google psychosomosis and the placebo effect, then get back to me.
By the way you people are yet to explain what makes Allah different 4rm Yahweh. What if its Allah that healed man? Is there anyway to know? If you're being honest with yourself, you'll know the answer is NO.
The reason religion exists is because people fill in the gaps of things they can't understand with existence of a deity. There was a time people believed the earth was flat. There was a time people believed phenomenons such as lightning, rain and even earthquakes came from God. Science has disproved this.
Science has only made the believability of God's existence less and less logical.
When you don't know, you don't know. Placebo effect will make a cripple walk? You've got jokes. Better stick to denial of the event. This regular talk of earthquakes, tornadoes, eclipses, lightening, etc. being proof that miracles do not happen is just ridiculous. Miracles always happen in controlled, unpredictable conditions unlike random natural phenomena. How you think this is an argument boggles my mind. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by Ranchhoddas: 1:22pm On Jan 02, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Ranchhoddas did I call it a miracle? Did I used miracle at all in my cut finger narrative?. You see, people will always read what they want to read, and even if sometimes go to the length of inventing what wasnt in content they read. I didnt say anything about "a miracle of any hierarchy" but mentioned "healing hierarchy and spectrum". They are chalk and cheese
I am pleased to read your succint miracle definition. I couldnt have provided a better definition than that, even if I did, it'll only be slightly better. Healing and miracles are different in the sense that every miracles is a healing of some sort, but not all healings are miracles. I know you 'll want to contest my last sentence but trust me, its undeniably true Ranchhoddas. My cut finger that I recovered from was a healing and not a miracle. It was a simple and ordinary experience so doesnt qualify to be classed a miracle
Now I dont know how you veered off on a strawman mining expedition, even from our last discussion, you seem to be grappling with the concept of rules, and I am seeing evidences of you repeating here too.
I dont know what for, why you had to ask me, if my thoughts had anything to do with the healing, because I never gave the impression that I engaged my thought to assist with healing. What I said, was I just remembered that the blood flow will stop as soon as I clot and that gave me comfort that I was aware of that. Now remember I did say, different thoughts to or for different situations, and the knife wound just fitted that scenario, even applicable to car crash accident victims too
Of course my experience, wont fit the miracle definition. I never at all, said it was a miracle Ranchhoddas. I said, my experience, is definitely one, out of the many lower cadres, in the healing hierarchy and spectrum. The rules that it follows, obviously isnt as strict, complex and rigid as the rules the higher cadres adhere to.
OK let me give you an example of a healing in a somewhat higher cadre in the healing hierarchy and spectrum, the liver. The liver when cut or ruptured grows itself back. Now some ailments, diseases, deformities, etcetera require a miracle aside healing.
What are you disputing about the "god of Nairaland"? The "god of Nairaland" is as a matter of fact a microcosm of God, the "god of Nairaland" sphere of influence is limited to Nairaland He is the "god of Nairaland" because of the authority, power, knowledge, presence (i.e. sees activities going on the site), intelligence, love and influence he has over Nairaland.
Being "god" that he is, of course shares similarities with God but the distinctions between him and God becomes very apparent if/when analysed I don't know why I missed this comment. The most important part of my definition is "Divine Agency". An external factor that is responsible for triggering the healing process; a factor without which healing would not occur in the manner observed or time frame (usually instant). If your cut finger had nothing to do with miracles, why did you bring it up? Anyway, forget all that. Just note that whenever I use the word miracle, I am always factoring in the action of an external agency. Stop giving me your Nairaland analogy and other tacky examples. Jesus healed the ear of a soldier, was that a miracle? Yes it was. Would the soldier's ear have healed over time without the interference of Jesus? Yes, but then it won't be a miracle anymore. Stop talking about vague rules you won't be bothered to explain. Note: External agency and short time frame (usually instantaneous) are prerequisites for qualification as a miracle. Don't get it twisted. |
Education › Re: 2019: 19 Interesting Facts You Should Know About The Year by Ranchhoddas: 9:33am On Jan 02, 2019 |
skarlett: April 2019, GOT returns  True that! Winter is here! |
Romance › Re: . by Ranchhoddas: 9:17am On Jan 02, 2019 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by Ranchhoddas: 3:08am On Jan 02, 2019 |
budaatum: Wrongly, and due to ignorance.
I'm sure I've told you about buda's miracle all the same. Just so I am not mixing things up. What do you think made your toes move? |
Romance › Re: am i supposed to be scared of her or its normal among ladies?.. advice pls by Ranchhoddas: 1:41am On Jan 02, 2019 |
MissRaine69: It’s nothing to do with pain it’s a mindset. Nigeria has one of the highest rate in the world of children born to mothers who are HIV positive, Nigeria also has a very high rate of HIV infection and one off the lowest rates of condom use. Those are things no one should be proud off. You have not even specialised yet I bet? And you are worrying about marriage? Stop thinking with your d1ck. Children inherit their intelligence from their mother, do you want to have children who have the stupid gene? This is scientific fact? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Non-Christian Chatbox ( sticky ) by Ranchhoddas: 7:49pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by Ranchhoddas: 5:51pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff: Sir, without any thought, the healing would have already set off in motion, this because of a specific rule(s)
The only thing my thought had to do, concerning the healing, was the knowledge or knowing that according to the rules, clotting will precede the healing start off. Remember the finger initially was profusely bleeding, I kept changing bandages, as it soon got soaked, then I remembered that if I am not hemophiliac, then in a short while, the blood would clot if I press down the cut with pressure to stop the flow. This did happen, so another rule was ready to be set off, in motion for healing to progress
I remember, stabbed assault victims being tried to get remained calm, so not to let them think about the in a negative manner that will exacerbate things like keeping blood flowing from the stab wound. So yeah, thoughts would have its role or part to play in healings but then different thoughts to or for different situations This is isn't what I meant. Stabbed victims are told to be calm so that their heart does not pump as much blood. This is purely physical/biological. The rules you talk of are simply physical. Knowledge acquired as a result of work done in a lab. This should not qualify as a miracle of any hierarchy. Miracle: An extraordinary and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore attributed to a divine agencyYour experience does not fit this definition in any way. Same thing with your "god of Nairaland" analogy. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Please Tell Us,how You Got The Thought "There Is No God Almighty by Ranchhoddas: 5:09pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
Oga, on your example of the hierarchy of healing and your cut finger. Did your thoughts have anything to do with the healing?
Muttleylaff |
Education › Re: Reading: A Culture That Makes Career Icons by Ranchhoddas: 3:33pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
justbusy: Only success is a matter of choice: failure is not. If you want success, pay the price for it: hardwork, sacrifice and invest in your knowledge about money. Gold and silver cannot make you rich; but it's what you know about gold and silver that can make you rich. This year: 1. I want to invest my money and time in my knowledge about online business. 2. Surround myself with serious-minded, mature-minded, and responsible people. 3. Buy financial and success motivational books written by creme de la creme in the world My new year resolution!!! Try "The science of getting rich" by Wallace Wattles. |
Education › Re: Reading: A Culture That Makes Career Icons by Ranchhoddas: 3:31pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
Donzion77: I always dey hide my money inside one of my Jeffrey Archer's novels.in that place no naija thief go ever decode am. Honour among thieves? |
Family › Re: The Agony Of An Over Ripe bachelor/spinster by Ranchhoddas: 1:34pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
EfemenaXY: The word “overripe” is out of context in your title. You aren’t referring to fruits!
Anyway if your main issue is needing a well prepared hot dinner awaiting you when you return home from work, then perhaps what you really need is a live in cook. Dem don come.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Premier League Transfer Window Is Open! Who Do You Want Your Team To Sign? by Ranchhoddas: 12:27pm On Jan 01, 2019 |
Nobody.
Just need my players fit.
The title fight is on.
#Guardiolasblueandwhitearmy |
Politics › Re: A Soldier, Ifeanyi Oseh, Killed. Chat Before His Death Between Him & His Friend by Ranchhoddas: 10:19am On Jan 01, 2019 |
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Romance › Re: Wizkid Is Actually Better Than Fela ( A Nairalander"s Opinion) by Ranchhoddas: 1:53am On Jan 01, 2019 |
QuietHammer: If I catch you ehn, I will beat you like a drum. Fela started Afrobeat, has a degree in Music, is a multi instrumentlist, has songs which have stood the test of time. In fact many Nigerian pop singers like Burna boy lift lyrics from his song. How in hell do you compare a man like Fela to wizkid. Wizkid may be more popular but don't mistake that to mean his music has more quality than Fela's Wizkid is not even more popular. Fela was a phenomenon at a time where there was no internet, no YouTube, no streaming and all the other things that make artistes popular today. The OP is just hungry for attention. |
Business › Re: Football (+/Other Sports) Betting Season 13 by Ranchhoddas: 1:35am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Make I register my presence. Happy new year to everybody. The odds are always in our favour.
The Universe -- It's rigged -- Everything, in your favour. So you have nothing to worry about -- Rumi |
Christianity Etc › Re: 2019: What Is Your Church's Theme For The Year?? by Ranchhoddas: 1:28am On Jan 01, 2019 |
I no dey go church. But the one wey I go na the same one OP go.
My Year of Winning.
Ibiyeomie People. |
Sports › Re: West Ham Signs Samir Nasri (Photos) by Ranchhoddas: 1:09am On Jan 01, 2019 |
lilbest4: Fabregas is not useless he is one of the most successful midfielder on earth, he has won everything there is UCL? |
Nairaland General › Re: What Is Your "Word/phrase For 2019"??? by Ranchhoddas: 12:54am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Gratitude!
Watershed!! |
Phones › Re: How To Remove Your Number From Truecaller (confirmed) by Ranchhoddas: 12:48am On Jan 01, 2019 |
timilehing: You can only remove your profile. Your number and names will remain as long as people that uses truecaller stores your details on their phone I no know for this people ohhh... |
Christianity Etc › Re: First Fruit Is A Scam, Be Wiser In 2019 by Ranchhoddas: 12:42am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Una don start!!!
Una no even wait till Sunday!!! |
Events › Re: Happy New Year (2019)! by Ranchhoddas: 12:37am On Jan 01, 2019 |
finalboss: my friend happy new year Happy new year to you too boss!!! |
Events › Re: Happy New Year (2019)! by Ranchhoddas: 12:33am On Jan 01, 2019 |
Happy New Year everyone!!
The year comes with a lot of promise.
Thank you Nairaland.
Let's do it again!!!
#iyanutishele2019 |
Crime › Re: Hooker Beats Up Man Who Picked Her For N7k Without Having A Dime by Ranchhoddas: 7:20pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
thornapple: Is the hooker a Macho Hermaphrodite or the man so boneless to be beaten up by a female? He's drained. |
Travel › Re: I'm Traveling To London, Follow Me On My Journey..... by Ranchhoddas: 6:43pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Hipsofagoddess: Yes, and they choose their battles wisely. I no get strength for argument. I'll let this slide. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Are The Problems Of An Atheistic Position? by Ranchhoddas: 6:20pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
budaatum: My dear man, one is not enough for me! I've been at it since I was 7 and people like you were claiming Oyinbo rats talk. Surely you don't think I have not grown since then!
You dismiss me in a "usual atheist fashion", yet I bet you'd claim you are not an atheist! For your information, any atheist, or anyone for that matter, who refuses to see the evidence for want of sticking to preconceptions, is blind. The cure is mud that is spat on and rubbed in the eye! No wahala! |
Sports › Re: "Lose To Liverpool And Title Race Is Over" - Guardiola Warns Man. City Players by Ranchhoddas: 6:19pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Chiefjosy: You be mumu. Have you forgotten man city had so much luck last season? From last minute goal to not blowing whistle in time to penalties given to them. Man city were even luckier last season than Liverpool this season. Man city last minute win against crystal palace, Bournemouth, Leicester and so on
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Travel › Re: I'm Traveling To London, Follow Me On My Journey..... by Ranchhoddas: 6:18pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Hipsofagoddess: He is diplomatic and should remain so if he wants to make it to Forbes list Ever heard of Donald Trump? Elon Musk? |
Sports › Re: "Lose To Liverpool And Title Race Is Over" - Guardiola Warns Man. City Players by Ranchhoddas: 5:45pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
dumininu01: Liverpool have not played well in some matches this season n won.. The mentality is different now bro.. YNWA  That's the Premier League for you, one bad month can turn things around. By this time last month City were on top. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Are The Problems Of An Atheistic Position? by Ranchhoddas: 5:34pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
budaatum: Well, unlike you, one is enough to make me wonder and research deeper. And my research suggests the position I hold is truer than the one you appear to just chose to believe. Lol One is enough for you because you already have an idea of what God, miracles etc should. Once it does not conform to your preconceptions you dismiss in the usual atheist fashion. |
Sports › Re: "Lose To Liverpool And Title Race Is Over" - Guardiola Warns Man. City Players by Ranchhoddas: 5:31pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Drummerboy15: They are yet to be tested mentally? All this sentiment talk. This one no even see anything talk Liverpool are playing well but they have been fortune. Mahrez missed a penalty that would have made them lose and given City an earlier psychological advantage. Against Everton, Jordan Pickford uncharacteristically made a last minute howler and they scored a goal. Another against Chelsea, Sturridge came on and scored with his first touch. See how many points they accumulated from good fortune. On the other hand, Crystal Palace had three shots on target against City and all three went in. Sometimes its about fine margins. They have not been significantly better than City. Go sleep. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Are The Problems Of An Atheistic Position? by Ranchhoddas: 5:23pm On Dec 31, 2018 |
Martinez19: Lol. The fact that christ embassy healing school and other faith healing programmes go on for years should be a clear demonstration on how great human gullibility, stupidity and bias are not the legitimacy of miracles. A lot of people have spoken about the scam of christ embassy healing schools but their voices have been drowned by blw sheeps and their organisation.
Psychic shops have been on for years, those it mean there is something legitimate about it? Yes. |