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Image123:
They are not necessarily true christians. Humans tend to draw closer to God or some god when in problem. Some look for some kind of forgiveness, penance, hope etc It's same thing in accidents and in areas of deep poverty.

They are not necessarily true Christians? Can't u make valid arguments without resorting to no true Scotsman fallacy??

Richirich713:
Lmao, if u wanted to know if Germans are taller than nigerians all u got to do is measure the heights a large number of Nigerians with a large number of Germans. That's it! But suppose u only compared 600 nigerians to 600 Germans, and u took the results as a fact. Can u really called that a fact? Can u really cite that single study as proof?

Ur study isn't doing something so simple as comparing heights and it's not considering a large number of kids, it's only taking in account 1200 kids out of millionzzz. That's is not facts or proof, that's a huge generalization on a small amount of data.

This is so simple... What's the number of people needed in a study to make it valid. U have still not given me an answer... Is it that hard?

Image123:
What useless point are you making? Mao Zedong killed over 40million human beings, Stalin was responsible for over 50million, Mussolini also killed his millions, and Hitler over 10million. Not to add Pol Pot. These are human beings, not money or trees or animals historically dead in their millions. And you play it down as a story! This again shows the inner principle of atheism and its disregard for human life. This ungodly fellow is more interested in yapping about Kids saying the darnest things to the seriousness of crime. Yet this shameless ones would almost develop heart attack or stroke when they read that Jesus caused one fig tree to wither. Such a set of confused, confounded, bounded fellows. Satabic manipulation in your lives is so clear you should have a peek. Talking yada yada about statistical evidence like what your fathers did was a fable.

All these tantrums and emotions u are ventilating is just masking a lack of an intellectual objection to the claim of the study.
Hitler was catholic, the slave masters were Christians, the crusaders were Christians and so on. Christians have been responsible for more deaths than atheists. Also, there have been more bad Christians than bad atheists. The number of catholic priests who molested altar boys alone completely outnumber any number of bad atheists u can compute.
It's the Christians on these forum that claim god killing children is good. And that God burning billions of people for eternity is also good.
However, all these still don't deal with the Op. The Study claims and proves that religious children are meaner. It's a scientific approach. If u want to criticize the study on the basis of methodology or parameters then be my guest. But your anger and emotions have no intellectual value here.

Guys the rapture has happened... All of us left now missed it ...oh wait is that not MrPresident1 am seeing viewing the thread? The watchman missed it to

Richirich713:
So essentially u don't got proof. You atheists demand proof for everything except when u have to give the proof. That's not being a "free thinker", that's just calling urself one.

*facepalm*
The study proves the claim.
If I want to prove that Germans are taller than Nigerians, do I have to study all Germans and all Nigerians?? U guys will just be murdering reason... If u had simply viewed the post and kept quiet, u wouldn't have made this pitiful comment...
The point of a study or survey is to PROVE a claim through the scientific steps of research...

Richirich713:
Prove the claims of the study or its just speculation based on about 1200 kids out of the millions around the world.

The study itself is proof. U have not been able to show how 1200 children is not enough of a sample... Do u expect them to test millions?? All the studies Christians post about atheists, how many atheists are involved... 1,200 is enough of a sample by any world standard. You are just grappling at straws

Richirich713:
Whats there to address, ur study only took over 1.200 kids.

If you think religous kids are meaner than secular kids, PROVE IT

A study with over 1200 kids is not proof.

U keep saying 1200 kids. Are u an authority of demography and statistics or what are u basing your claim that 1200 people are not enough...

Richirich713:
No they ain't exactly the same but they just two sides of the same coin.

So they are not the same? Good...
Communism is a political cum economic system of government that invests the government with the exclusive right to produce, distribute resources.
Atheism is the belief that God doesn't exist or lack of belief that he does. The communists were atheists who were bad people. Just like Hitler was a catholic who was a bad person and Idi Amin was a Muslim who was a bad person... So if u count the democides as the reflection of atheism then the world wars and every civil war caused by a theist is also a reflection of religion
So can u address the Op now?

Richirich713:
Yeah communism grounded in atheism.

"Throughout the history of the Soviet Union (1922–1991), Soviet authorities suppressed and persecuted various forms of Christianity to different extents depending on the particular era. Soviet Marxist-Leninism policy consistently advocated the control, suppression, and the elimination of religious beliefs, and actively encouraged atheism during its implementation in the Soviet Union.[1]

The state was committed to the destruction of religion,[2][3] and destroyed churches, mosques and temples, ridiculed, harassed, incarcerated and executed religious leaders, flooded the schools and media with [b]atheistic teachings, and generally promoted atheism as the truth[/b] that society should accept.[4][5] The total number of Christian victims of Soviet state atheist policies has been estimated to range between 12-20 million" -Wikipedia

Answer the question I asked u. Is communism the same thing as atheism

Richirich713:
What's there to face, this study only involved over 1,200 people.

How many people need to be involved in a study to make it valid.

KingEbukasBlog:
What are you saying ? How can an atheist enjoy life ? An atheist has an inclination for hate , bigotry and destruction then suicide - this does not look like a pleasant enjoyable life

Well seems the Christians in African countries are really enjoying life... Like the ones starving in Zambia

Richirich713:
Not religous wars, those atheists killed in the name of atheism.

No, they killed in the name of communism. Is communism the same as atheism?

Richirich713:
I wasn't attacking the study, I was just analyzing what happens when the dudes grow up, what I noticed is the most murderous rampages ever carried out in human history usually has atheists leading the way, atheists play a huge role in making the 20th century the bloodiest in human history.

So you're just trying to derail the thread? Who led the slavery, world war 1 and 2, genocide in Biafra?

This shii is going down today... All atheists are going to fvcking burn ... God is good, all the time!!

This is pathetic. Elections were held last year. Even the blind saw this coming.

felixomor:
When u ask questions like these.
U only but expose urself that u r not familiar with science...at all

I cant even use a study of 1200 people to assess nigeria alone, let alone the world.
There is a formula for ideal sample size...

Use your google to find it and calculate the ideal sample size for an experiment as this.

Lolz... Tell that to the different universities all over the world that conducted the study... Most studies don't even have up to a thousand people... The links u posted earlier, how many people were involved in the study?

Richirich713:
They just as mean when they grow up as well :

https://www.nairaland.com/2988881/atheism-terrorism-annihilation-quest-atheistic

https://www.nairaland.com/3286519/communist-leaders-killed-millions-because

U people are falling hand like kilode... U just keep dropping red herrings every way. Not a single attempt to criticize the study on it's merits. Only GoodMuyis exec attempted to..
How do these links disprove the Op? U are pointing to five to seven bad atheists in history to show that a study involving over 1,200 people is false. I already explained the difference between anecdotes and statistics. Using anecdote is a fallacy....
U guys really need to do a better job. Poking holes in this study is not that difficult. In fact, I can think of some issues that can be raised criticizing the study... But that would be doing your job for you

felixomor:
Imagine a sample size of 1200 for a study as this
And the boy is using the study to sing up and down.
Thats not even up to the population of one secondary school..

I didn't just want argue with him.

Lolz... Tell me. What's the number of people that need to be involved in a study to make it valid?

GoodMuyis:
A Fantastically Misinformation, Statistical Sample Does not mean generalization

This must have being a rigged Research in opposition to Religion

What exactly do u expect? For the researchers to involve every child in the world? That's impossible... That's not how statistics work.
The claim is that religious children are averagely meaner than secular children. It doesn't mean that all religious children are mean or all secular children are nice... It only means that on an average, it is more likely for a religious child to be mean than a secular child.
BTW, saying the research must have been rigged is a weak ass* argument.

xpmode:
Result valid for US, Canada, China, Jordan, Turkey and South Africa But not in Nigeria

I would have accept the result, if Nigeria was sampled.

Since the Nigeria was not sampled in the research, it therefore lack credibility.
The Above listed countries have cultural differences with Nigeria

There's a reason the study was conducted in seven different countries in different continents... Each of those countries represents a different socio-political climate...
US and Canada represent the developed western world. China represents east and south east Asian countries like Japan and Singapore. Jordan represents the Arab world, turkey represents eastern Europe and south Africa represents Africa.
There's rarely any study that is conducted in every country of the world. But if u have any objection to south Africa representing Nigeria and other African countries, maybe on the basis of significant differences in social contexts then let's trash it out.
But at least u are raising sound objections not the ad hominem that some people keep doing

So far no theist has been able to tackle this study on it's merits. When I was reading comments on The Guardian, some people including atheists raised serious logical issues with the study but the only thing we have seen from the ones on nairaland is red herrings and ad hominems.

felixomor:
A study u dont even know who did it?

Please say something else.

Lolz... U are not happy. Pele... Don't worry, other studies are coming. Showing how religion is destroying our world...

felixomor:
Lol....
This was public awareness....

NEXT!

Exactly public awareness... The public really needs to be aware of the width of Ebuka's yansh

felixomor:
Nah, the few that.made it to power....

And If we r to ratio it out......the kill potential of atheits per total population of atheists that have existed....
Then each atheist should have thousands if not millions of souls on his neck
As compared to the billions of religious people that have existed per religious killers....

That says a lot

So in other words u can't intellectually disprove the study... I get it.

felixomor:
Well till your record of murders is matched,
U have nothing on us, as far as being mean is concerned....

U are mentioning four or five atheists that are mean. The study included 1,200 children.
Also give me the number of bad atheists and I will give u the number of bad Christians...
Besides, I already explained how statistical analysis works but u seem to not get it... Should I explain again?

felixomor:
Oya provide the methodology....

If u like Go and use study without name for project....

Its capital FAiL......sorry

Lolz... Nice try. Am sure u have checked the link and saw that it was true... It was even quoted on guardian...
The methodology is included in the Op... U Christians keep shouting atheists are not moral but alas u are the mean ones...

felixomor:
You cant even mention names?
If u do a project like this and dont mention names, even in school, they would cancel it

Well, lets just say some people are desperate to cancel out the murderous history of atheist..
And then they conjure a study....

Weak ass* arguments... U are supposed to criticize methodology and parameters not argue like a market woman...
U are commiting the ad-hominem fallacy. Only people who don't have points do that. I still have up that you will come up with something substantial tho'

felixomor:
Ok, show me the people who funded this study

Academics from seven universities across the world studied Christian, Muslim and non-religious children to test the relationship between religion and morality...
Your hypocrisy no be here. When studies are funded by Christians and they reach a conclusion u like, u believe them but now a study is saying what u don't like and u are throwing tantrums...
There's nothing u can do about the study. Except if u have a logical basis why the study is wrong...

felixomor:
Yes o
It puts the validity of the study at risk

Probably one or two atheists funded the study...

Lolz... This is not how educated people do. They use their knowledge and common sense to logically pick apart studies. They don't just say "probably one or two atheists". You can do better than that... At least, I hope u can

MrMontella:
guy you be ode ooo

That guy na mental case

felixomor:
Statistics is computing the kill rate of atheist murderers in history.
And see that religious people will never catch up

.... Does that change the fact that religious children are meaner than secular ones??
BTW, deaths caused by religious people can't be matched by those by atheists. It's not even close

peacesamuel94:
Atheists will believe anything hook line and sinker, as far as it is in support of atheism and against religion then there's no problem. Meanwhile when theists create threads like this, atheist Flood the thread with different questions but in this case, only the topic is enough to believe and accept it wholeheartedly.

But u guys are not asking questions. Questions are welcome, in fact encouraged. Every study is subject to interpretation and conjecture. So please, be my guest