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CriticMaestro:
u can read the bible withawt asking the holy spirit to guide you, that's y u can't comprehend the message we are trying to pass

Holy Spirit? The same one who inspired the erot.ic songs of Solomon?

LiberaDeus:
Hmm Oga

You see why christians call us devils
They would say you have been the worship leader for years just like Lucifer was in heaven.

Lolz... Lucifer indeed

Muafrika2:
Am sure they do

Oh... It doesn't matter whether u believe them or not. That's the beauty of science and statistics you don't need to believe them to make them valid. Unlike religion.

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CriticMaestro:
you dont believe in God because u claim u are thinker and yet u have no logical explanation to nature, u just believe everything shaped itself from dust and pieces, who shaped the dust?? are u really thinking or is d devil doing it for u??huh

OK... He has no logical explanation to nature. So do you have a LOGICAL explanation to nature? Let's hear it

Wow... Beautiful thread.
Anyways, like many other humanities, am a church guy. I play keyboard and guitar for my church at home and my fellowship in school. I have been the president of my church based student fellowship, assistant music director of the church and a bible quiz champion right from my childhood....
So cutting those ties will have to be gradual. But I understand I can't continue like this forever. When a Pastor says something so inherently wicked and brandishes it as a proof of God's benevolence and u have to nod in agreement... The inner irritation is unhealthy...
So it's going to happen one day but one step at a time.

Muafrika2:
Atheists are better people?

he he

Funny guy

Well, studies and statistics show exactly that.

Lolz... It's pretty interesting seeing the attempts by Christians to explain this contradiction...
It seems the best they can do is to ignore the actual words of the bible text and use their own words....
The funny thing is that the bible places a curse on those who remove from or add to the bible

jpmoriarti:
Yes I still support him till the very end. He remains the coach till his contract runs out. It doesn't matter the general sentiment on this thread.

This is childish thinking... So even if he carries the team to relegation, you still support him because he's the coach??

KingEbukasBlog:
Statistics? What stastics ?

You are an atheist because you are ignorant . That's a fact bro .

Well... Newsflash- facts can be proven. You haven't proven the validity of that statement. U making mere assertions and calling them fact is really not different from what market women and drunks in beer parlors do

KingEbukasBlog:
Oh my brother . I think you got it wrong . In nontheistic religions like Confucianism which atheists can belong to , prayers are made to ancestral spirits to help them especially in the family's fortunes . Some Desists don't believe in a personal God and they don't seek God's intervention . Atheist witches make prayers to the elements of nature and spirits .

Don't be befuddled by the ramblings of ignorant Nairaland atheists . Prayer is a means of communication , but to who ? The more knowledge one discovers , the more vapid and empty atheism becomes .

Well... Too bad actual statistics don't support your bogus claims.

KingEbukasBlog:
Nope . He has realized how foolish the decision to become an atheist is and has decided to do the wise thing .

Sorry mister fictitious eternal universe . I'm opening a thread soon to show you where that ridiculous belief came from and why nontheistic religions like Jainism hold such beliefs too .

Most Atheists like Seun strongly believe the universe is eternal that's why they believe the theists are wrong even though science disproves them .

There is no rationale behind atheism : It is not based on cosmology , it is not based on science , it is not based anything . When will you ever realize how idiotic atheism is ?

So why I wonder where this strong conviction that you are right and the audacity to think it is wrong to acknowledge the most rational position on God's existence which is theism or deism came from ?

The OP has come to realization of the truth and is seeking to be manumitted from mental slavery . He does not want to commit suicide ! Let him be !

This is pure tomfoolery... Atheism and the concept of an eternal universe are not one and the same thing in the first place. While there is still no evidence that the universe was created, a created universe still doesn't prove the existence of God in any way...
Atheism is simply lack of belief in the existence of a god. It's rational and logical since there is no evidence of a god.
And your desperate attempts to equate deism and theism is humorous and pathetic at the same time. They are very different concepts but it seems you have to attach deism to give your position any validity.

If not for the PSG trashing, some people will still be supporting Enrique since we beat leganes luckily and "winning is all that matters".

greatgod2012:
This your comment get as e be o............do you need to be terrible for your children to fear you You should have just said/typed......That's why He's called God! Anyway, it is well!




@post, hhhhmmmmmmm, these are parts of the scriptures that makes some people turned atheists. Even me sometimes ask why all these killings? But then, ..........I'm always told I ask too many unnecessary questions!

It is well!

The God of the bible is a god of the dark age. By the standards of those times, it was okay. But God should not be limited by morality of a particular age. God should have been ahead of time... That God doesn't exist.

This is not right... None of the other Christians in the section are coming to felixomor's aid. It's not fair on the poor boy

^^^^

airmark:
This is not about my position. Did the research methodology put into consideration many factors like, the number of muslim's lives lost in wars in islamic nations. Did the research touch, the number of refugees that swapped their faiths for better lives in their new abodes? Did it consider many that changed theirs and kept mute, due to fear of apostasy law? Did they reach out to all churches in nigeria to get the lists of new converts, let alone getting those all around the world? The same way you rubbish the election polls that favoured clinton, should be the same way you should rubbish this.

How do u know what they did and did not consider? Stats like this are computed over a number of years not like pre- election polls which were always fluctuating.
In fact, some polls actually had trump up by one point on the day of election but most polls had Clinton up by not more than three points which was slightly within the margin of error.
This research claims a deficit of a whooping 60million. That is well beyond the margin of error.
The Pew Research Center is the most prestigious body when it comes to religious demographics. So forgive me when I consider their figures more valid than your figures- or your lack of them.

winner01:
It is not the task of Christianity to provide easy answers to every question, but to make us progressively aware of a mystery.
God is not so much the object of our knowledge as the cause of our wonder.

Those questions no matter how touching constantly reminds us that nowhere in God's word was man or christians promised a life free of pain. Nowhere in God's word was man promised the answers to all his questions.

God is and forever will be. We were created with limits and it's why we will forever wonder.

The bible says god will give his children whatever they ask. Is there any reason god should let someone suffer in pain until he dies despite painstaking prayers to him. Or what could possibly be the reasoning behind creating a person with no limbs...
I remember a front-page story about a girl who lived and died in a bowl... She was a Muslim and I asked myself, so by the Christian code, this girl will burn perpetually in hell. She was supposedly created by god into that mystery, achieved nothing with her life and then get reward is eternal torture??

Omooba77:
Miracle still does happen sir; you believe or watch others enjoying it.

Miracles still happen but not of the dimensions in the bible right? Is god less powerful? Coz that will explain a lot of things

airmark:
Are you kidding me? What actual figures? Did the researchers went to all countries to get the accurate figures of converts in both religions ? Come on, don't join the ignoramuses.

Lolz... It's obvious you don't want to accept the figures because they are unfavorable to your position...
How do researchers know the standard of living in each country, how do they know the safest countries... It's called research methodology...
For example, based on the birthrate of a particular section of a country, u can predict the future population of a place and by extension, the future population of a religion in that location...
It's not really that hard... And it's not enough to say figures are misleading. Why not bring your own figures or discredit the figures I gave on the basis of research methodology...

Wingback:
He got the BBC African player of the year...I agree...It was his same showboating that led Bolton to their first ever European Competition...

Nonsense.... Drogba led Chelsea to multiple premier league titles and a champions league title. Likewise Eto. Drogba won APOTY three times, Eto won four times... Okocha couldn't win one... Did Okocha even ever make premier league team of the year?

Pidgin2:
. You are quite funny, is there anything wrong with indoctrination? Infact, this system is highly recommended by God so why are you drinking panadol on top Christians headache.

Yes, highly recommended by God because without it, there will be no Christians

airmark:
That was how stats showed that Clinton would win the last election. Humans would always throw figures recklessly, ignoring crucial points in carrying out their stvpid researches. I was appalled at you typing Christianity thrived on high birthrate . Stuffs that made Islam to grow at all are majorly , polygamy, taqqiya and apostasy.

You're comparing pre-election political polls to actual figures. Islam has the highest birthrate but it's closely followed by Christianity..
Actual figures show that more people are leaving Christianity than are joining
. U should have bothered to read the link I gave, instead of just bringing issues already addressed

Wingback:
I did not pick Abedi because he named himself after me or because Okocha wore the number 10 shirt.

"I admire these players because of the special skill they have shown. I believe in beautiful football and these players have shown themselves to be great players.

"This was why I picked them for this list"-Pele 2004.


When the greatest player on earth Endorses your skill, you know it's real.



Okocha left Bolton 2006, the year before that, Okocha led them to 6th for their first European competition...


Okocha has 7 Nigerian player of the year award, Okocha didn't care about the big teams, he loved dribbling and he was an intelligent dribbler, his works on the pitch have more than secured his place as a legend.

7 Nigerian player of the world, not one single African player of the year... Okocha was more of style than substance...
If showboating was the criterion, mocha okocha would be the best ever but actual footballing, Eto, Drogba, even yaya and the likes are much better than okocha

CONTEDDICTED:
Fabregas' worst season at Barca: 12 goals 17 assists Iniesta's best season at Barca: 6 goals 15 assists

What matters most is team and individual honors. And not generate fabregas, not lampard comes close to iniesta in that respect...

Image123:
You said christianity survives on high birthrates and indoctrination, that is untrue. Nobody is born a christian. You have to be born AGAIN to be a Christian. Real Christianity survives on evangelism. The Bible predicts mass falling away, evil men and seducers waxing worse, and the love of many waxing cold. There's no news neither do we need any statistical analysis or science journal to tell us what we know. It's like knowing your name or your best food. Leaving or coming to Christianity doesn't change anything or disturb the veracity of the Bible and the fact that the Judge of the whole earth is coming.

Christianity survives on high birthrates... Majority of Christians didn't convert to Christianity, they were born to Christian parents... Same with Islam...
And it's not about any prophecy because if that was the case, Christianity would have a different reality to other religions. But what applies to Christianity generally applies to Islam to, so, nothing special

Omooba77:
Yes oo;but God is Sovereign too, in John 4 ,Jesus had to send his disciples to town to buy food.
Jesus was in the boat in Mark 4; but yet storm...
Be unto you according to your faith; everyone chooses what to believe. God bless you, miracle does exist, I have seen numerous at Redemption camp amd crusades. My purpose is I want it to be a daily occurrence.

Yes Jesus sent people to buy food but he also multiplied food not once but twice... Has that kind of thing ever happened in redemption camp or any other place for that matter?

I wonder too...
Jesus used only five loaves of bread and two fishes to feed thousand of people, then why do people have to contribute thousands of bags of rice in redemption camp during their convention.
Joshua stopped the sun and moon from moving. Why does rainfall disturb some of our crusades and revivals.
Jesus raised many people from the dead in the bible. So why do young people die in our churches and are not raised from the dead.
Elijah called fire from heaven to destroy people, why can't we call fire to consume boko haram and Fulani herdsmen.
My conclusion: This things never happened in the first place. They are all lies in the bible just to add mystery to the person of Jesus and the other prophets.

Why do people still believe in prayers?
I think it's because people need to believe that they have something superior to what medicine has to offer... I wish prayers actually worked, and young people don't just die anyhow but unfortunately prayers don't work

Devices:
What facts? I'm telling you the reality you are here talking about facts. Muslims are dying everyday in nigeria, somalia, yemen, burma, libya, algeria, pakistan, iraq, afghanistan, and other countries affected with islamic terrorism. Do you need a telescope to see whats happening in Borno and maidugiri? Muslims are killing each other everyday.

It's only in the market and beer parlor that they argue this way without facts or anything.... The facts show that Islam is the fastest growing religion, in spite of the terrorism in Islamic countries but you're insisting on your opinion without supporting it with facts

Devices:
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Islam is dying, millions of people are leaving islam daily. statistically, millions of muslims have lost their lives in bomb attacks.

The previous statistics of people who lost their lives in syria last year is almost million. Christianity at the other hand is growing rapidly.

So tell me how can islam surpass christianity when you are losing large numbers of people everyday?

You guys should stop having that impression abt islam being the fastest growing religion on earth.

Stop telling stories... Bring hard facts with links. The stats show that Islam is actually the fastest growing.