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dalaman:
The bible that is filled with so many false and unfilled phrophecies.

Abi na... Like the one where Jesus said he will come back within the lifetime of the people he was speaking to... Those people have been dead for over a thousand and the guy never come back... Christians will not see that one ooh

felixomor:
Of course, the Bible is the grand master of prophecies nah.
Certified and confirmed.
Bestseller 2016 till you die.

Yes... Prophecies like "knowledge will increase". I mean, WTF!! Did the bible expect knowledge to reduce?

4evergod3:
Perhaps in your customary manner you did not read the banters from the beginning of the thread before jumping in. If you did you would realize that the OP is not trying to demonize atheism but creating a "use your tongue to count your teeth" Position of self reflection.

If you think the OP is trying to demonize atheism then perhaps there is a demon worth talking about if you are thinking about such as being the motive of the OP.

Desperately pushing the allegedly poorest president as a model atheist falls flat in your face because if he was a model atheist to you then you shouldnt be on here ranting and attacking Theists and their beliefs...Does your poorest president do that?

Model atheist? What does that even mean... Atheism is not a religion u know. I just used his example to show that a lack of belief in god doesn't mean u will be a bad person.
And how do you know he doesn't castigate other people's beliefs?? U have lived with him before... U are just jam talking

KingEbukasBlog:
Christ is not a pacifist though his teachings supported Pacifism

Who do you think will fight in the Armageddon



The judges helped defeat the enemies of Israel .




What about them ?

Keep lying... God directed the Israelites to kill the Canaanites just because he wanted to give their land to the Israelites... If the devil exists, he will be amazed at your lying prowess

4evergod3:
Including those!

Keep lying okay? ... The world wars were started by atheists.. Lying is truly a gift of the holy spirit

Pokermon:
Grasp your ears firmly and pull...

...you might just be able to remove your head from your ass!

Try to be original please.. Stop googling insults

KingEbukasBlog:
The bible does not support slavery

https://www.nairaland.com/3210816/bible-slavery-answering-ignorant-atheists

This has been argued ad nauseum

Atheists don't want to concede defeat because they want Christians to be like them , supporting despicable acts against humanity .

U and your lies... The bible allows you to purchase slaves, beat them, even kill them... Neither Jesus nor his son condemned slavery but why stop lying, that's your own gift of the spirit

[quote author=naijadeyhia post=52044248][/quote]Console myself?? U just speak without reason... The post was not even for your benefit.
Anyways, the most generous and poorest president ever is an atheist so.... Try as u might, u can't demonize atheism and studies have shown that atheists are less predisposed to violence than Christians.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/06/peace-on-earth-atheism
BTW, I stopped taking u serious when I read that you claimed you have raised a dead person before and u can make amputated arms grow back.... What kind of weed do you smoke

[quote author=naijadeyhia post=52044248][/quote]Console myself?? U just speak without reason... The post was not even for your benefit.
Anyways, the most generous and poorest president ever is an atheist so.... Try as u might, u can't demonize atheism and studies have shown that atheists are less predisposed to violence than Christians.
https://www.theguardian.com/discussion/p/44j4d?page=19

Will just paste this here:


Killings for Christianity
The Church started killing unbelievers as early as the 4th century. The killing (often with torture) of heretics, church splinter groups, dissenters, atheists, agnostics, deists, pagans, infidels and unbelievers was supported by almost all mainstream Christian theology for over a thousand years, starting with the intolerant St. Augustine (died 430 AD).
See also Killings for Islam.
Much (but not all) of Christianity's killing is in the past. Christianity had a long run as the world's most violent religion. But I think it is clear that the world's most violent religion is now Islam.



"Burn the witch!"
This hilarious scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail perfectly captures the "logic" of the centuries of "witch" torturing and killing by Christianity.
This crime was supported at the highest levels, up to The Papacy.
Also here.


Historical killings for Christianity
See also Historical killings for Islam
History of persecutions by Christians
The martyrdom of Christians at the hands of the Romans (also here and here). This was one type of oppressor killing another type of oppressor - as was shown when the Christians finally got into power.
Persecution of Pagans by the Christian Roman Empire
Saint Augustine supported torturing heretics. Also here.
Christian thinkers such as St. Thomas Aquinas continued to justify the killing of heretics and unbelievers throughout the medieval period.
St. Thomas Aquinas justifies killing people who are not convinced by his arguments.
See the Summa Theologica, 2nd Part of the 2nd Part, Question 11, Article 3. See also here.
Extraordinary Popular Delusions And The Madness Of Crowds (online here and here and here) by Charles Mackay (1841).
The killing of Jews
Fascism
Christianity and the Holocaust
The killing of scientists and thinkers



The Popes of the Catholic church.


The Crusades

The Crusades (mainly 1095-1272)
Rudolph J. Rummel estimates the Crusades killed 1 million innocent civilian men, women and children (not in combat).
Extraordinary Popular Delusions And The Madness Of Crowds
The Crusades (and here)
Jihad begot the Crusades by Andrew G. Bostom.
Yes, the Crusades were in part a response to centuries of Islamic jihad and persecution and slaughter of Christians in the Middle East. But the Christians then (unlike today) were no better than their Islamic adversaries.
The First Crusade
In 1095, Pope Urban II made this speech to launch the blood-letting of The Crusades.
The capture of Jerusalem, 1099. When they took Jerusalem, the Christian army butchered almost every man, woman and child in the city.
The Second Crusade
St. Bernard of Clairvaux (see search) said when launching the Second Crusade: "The Christian glories in the death of a pagan, because thereby Christ himself is glorified."
The genocide of the Cathars (1209�1229)
In 1209, Pope Innocent III (also here) called for a crusade to exterminate the Cathar people of France (the Albigensians), simply because they had different superstitious beliefs to his own stupid beliefs. Men, women and children were butchered by the Pope's forces.
Rudolph J. Rummel estimates they butchered 200,000 innocent men, women and children.
Massacre at B閦iers (1209)
The Church's War on the Cathars
In 1233, Pope Gregory IX encouraged the extermination of the Stedinger people of Friesland, on the imaginary grounds that they were in league with the (equally-imaginary) Devil. "The devil appears to them in different shapes", said his holiness, "sometimes as a goose or a duck". The entire people were exterminated.

The Inquisition
The Inquisition
The Inquisition and Slavery
Rudolph J. Rummel estimates that the Inquisition butchered 350,000 innocent men, women and children.
The Spanish Inquisition
The Spanish Inquisition under Ferdinand and Isabella was approved by Pope Sixtus IV in 1484.
The butcher Torquemada
Expulsion of the Muslims and Jews from Spain, 1492.
The Jewish Virtual Library
The Inquisition
The Spanish Expulsion of the

http://markhumphrys.com/christianity.killings.html#slavery

hopefulLandlord:
and here I am producing carbon dioxides for the trees to use too

Taking no prisoners this afternoon I see... Keep finishing them

DarkRebel101:
The Op in his ignorance claimed Moses is a Christian figure. Moses is not a Christian figure, but a Judaistic figure. I only sought to clear the mist in that regard.

Besides, what is the purpose of this thread and what sense is the Op making?

You are all idiöts and I shouldn't even be stopping low to engage in such a brain-dead discourse.

You are a coward... A spineless coward. Do u believe Moses is a good man? Do you believe he's a man of God? Do you believe he acted under orders from god?... Engage in an intellectual argument for once... I dare you!!

HardMirror:
Hehehehe
I see damogul viewing this thread. Expecting his usual post of tales of 2 mirrors. I don laff tire here.

They are denying moses now.

There are two things involved... Either they run away totally, that's when they have no card to play or they try to digress and concoct poorly fabricated lies... KingEbukasblog is the expert at this. Just tell barefaced lies and keep repeating them

DarkRebel101:
You need help, son, and you are too much of an obtuse, close-minded rhesus monkey that any attempt to humour you in a dialectic exchange is certain to yield no cognitive dividends. I think I'd pass up on your offer.

At least you didn't repudiate the fact that you are a con artist and a cheap, twenty-dollar attention-hogging fraud. How many months did it take to cobble together the pseudo conversion tale you hoped would sway the Nairaland community?



Like I said, get help. You are sick! And to think some people look up to you speaks in volumes about the mental make-up of certain individuals on this forum.

Christians can lie ehn... Was Moses not a prophet of God?? Didn't god instruct him to do those things? Is it not the same god you are serving? Or has he changed

Godgay:
they are not the same,the Middle east in proof to that,in Saudi arabia women are forbidden to drive,they cant shake other people hands except their husband,I depise Christianity does mean I will succumb to the irrational anti-christain thrash you are spilling right now,if the two religion are the same why don't we have boko haram in the south?why are christain domimated countries to fighting a religious war?

So that the acts of violence of your religion happened in the past means that it is irrelevant

KingEbukasBlog:
No atheist makes any sense . So he does not even need to read the post to draw up such logical conclusion .

The Israelites fought wars against enemies who subjugated them . They were led by judges such as Moses , Samson etc . I strongly detest ignorant and specious arguments .

I implore you guys to pick a bible and read through and not creating topics to ridicule your own misconception - its becoming embarrassing

Against enemies who subjugated them?? Are u kidding... Your dishonesty is growing by the day. The Canaanites were on their rightful land. Joshua and moses led the Israelites to kill everybody including children on top their own land... God ordained these killings. In fact he directed them, when they defeated Jericho, god told them to kill every man, woman and child .. God even supposedly stopped the sun in order to enable the complete extermination of some cities. At other times, he used hail to support the Israelites ..
Mr. Man, that we don't believe these stories doesn't mean we're not familiar with them .. U are a liar who would say anything to save face. . I won't go as far as to call you a fraud but your dishonesty these days is bordering on the fraudulent

felixomor:
Get a dictionary.

U no even sabi book. ... The only thing different between their marriage and ours is the legal recognition, apart from that, it's marriage... Sorry, ehn

felixomor:
No

What is marriage then?

felixomor:
Keeping a mating partner is marriage to you.

I am not surprised.

They communicate, interact, procreate and nurture offsprings... Is that not marriage?

felixomor:
Animals dont marry.
They may have mating partners and some try stay faithful.

Please dont because of argument, bend it to "marriage".

That's marriage now, except for the legal aspect of course

damogul:
Oga as long as god was involved anything is possible. Enlarging the throat is the least of it all. Besides sperm whales already have enlarged throaats so what are you saying?

Science is beneath God and God does not subscribe to science...Science on the other hand is trying to understand the works of His hands.

The moment you stop trying to use science to analyze God that is when sense will hit you

Yh... Science is beneath god. That's why
- Light was made before the sun
- god was scared they would build a tower to meet him in heaven
- Noah packed millions of species into the boat
- Noah packed both carnivores and herbivores into the boat, he was disposing of their poo, and put the animals in the boat for hundreds of days even though some animals live that long
- Noah's boat was at the level of mount Everest and he could still breathe fine
Should I continue?

damogul:
Was God not involved? Must God subscribe to science?

The Question you should be asking is if its impossible for a whale to swallow a man whole

Even if it was impossible... U would say, god was involved so he enlarged the throat... U believe in impractical stories that u didn't witness, I examine stories on a scientific and factual basis...
Ergo, it was impossible for Jonah to survive for three days in a whale's belly. U should have used the god excuse and not try to prove the event scientifically because it was obviously a very bad idea

damogul:
http://listeningreading..com.ng/2010/09/swallowed-by-whale-from-edcon.html


Extract

Many people did not believe Bartley, even though the captain and the whole crew swore that his tale was true. Scientists questioned Bartley, checking and rechecking all parts of his tale against his friends' statements. It got so bad that he dreaded any questions. Finally he was tested by a team of doctors. They reported that Bartley was a very strong man. It was possible for him to stay alive inside a whale. Their report seemed to provide the last bit of proof. Not all of Bartley's story was accepted by everyone. But, the fact that he had been swallowed by a whale was believed. His adventure was widely reported. For a while he was a famous man.

it's scientifically impossible to live inside a live whale for three days. the methane in the stomach and the corrosion caused by digestive enzymes will kill the person... and Jonah was unscathed when he came out, Bartley was not. either way, the Jonah story was utter bollocks

KingEbukasBlog:
Can you provide proof for this claim?

It still does not make the story untrue , its still a personal opinion .

no, it's not a personal opinion. even when it was still considered credible, it was still considered a rumor, then further knowledge totally discredited the story . if u want to rely on a scientifically impossible story with hazy details and contradictory accounts to prove Jonah's story, u are OYO

damogul:
Proof that its true

http://www.exponav.org/james-bartley-el-hombre-que-vivio-dentro-de-una-ballena/?lang=en

If one can discredit. Another can authenticate.

his is an excerpt from another site.Research, particularly bya Bible-believing professor named EdwardDavis (http://asa.calvin.edu:80/asa/pscf.html| 19:53:53 Mar 16, 2003), ultimately shows beyond a reasonable doubt that the story is a hoax. Too many aspects of the story do not stand up to scrutiny. The alleged ship, “Star of the East,” was not a whaler. There was no fishing off the Falkland Islands in 1891. Bartley’s name never appeared on a manifest of the aforementioned ship. The captain’s wife said that her husband neverlost anyone overboard in all their years of marriage, and they were married in 1891."
the story was believed as a legend for years by countries on both sides of the Atlantic but has been shown to be scientifically impossible.. address these issues

damogul:
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/japanese-whaling-crew-eaten-alive-by-killer-whales-16-dead/

Again, another act of desperation...
The swimming crew members were then ferociously attacked by a school of killer whales, that decimated a large number of the crewwithin moments. “It was horrific” claims Asuka Kumara, a mechanical engineer who witnessed the gruesome scene. “The water was red with blood, there were bodies everywhere” he recalls in tears.
DECIMATED, BLOOD EVERYWHERE... this isn't consistent with Jonah's story, at least read the stories first before posting them

dalaman:
Visit the link and see for yourself. The piece is a satirical one. It's just fiction.

just saw it, boss... I don't know why he's doing this, didn't the holy spirit tell him that it was satire??

damogul:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1540443/Man-swallowed-by-great-white-says-it-was-like-being-trapped-in-a-cave.html

"An Australian diver who survived being half-swallowed by a great white shark said today that being clamped between the animal’s massive jaws was like being trapped in a dark cave."
that was the first paragraph of that article. how could u not have seen that?? HALF- SWALLOWED, CLAMPED BETWEEN JAWS...
In desperation, you are closing your eyes to the actual facts of the story. first fiction, next satire, now this??

damogul:
Chicago, IL – An Arkansas man is alive after being swallowed by a whale on Saturday while visiting the Shedd Aquarium. Jonah Anderson, 24, is being treated for mild dehydration at Chicago’s Mercy Medical Center after being regurgitated early this morning.

The incident happened while viewing the Beluga Whale exhibit at Shedd. Witnesses say the whale, Puiji, came out of the pool, grabbed Anderson, and proceeded to swallow him whole. Anderson remained unharmed inside the whale until this morning when he was spit back onto the viewing platform.

“This is the first time any of our whales have exhibited aggressive behavior,” Shedd’s vice president of communications Andrea Smalec tells us. “We frequently allow special guest to interact with the whales, our staff even occasionally swim with the whales. This is completely unexpected.”

Animal trainers tried unsuccessfully to extract Anderson from the whale during the three days. Anderson was able to communicate with outsiders through text message during the stay. Friends and family tell us that Anderson remained positive and relaxed during the time.

“He seemed really upbeat,” Jonah’s girlfriend Mary, who was with him on the trip, tells us. “Of course this is not the first time something like this has happened. We were on a boat tour outside San Francisco last year when a whale snatched him from the side. That one scared him a bit, this time it all seemed routine. Not sure why this keeps happening.”

Doctors expect to release Anderson from the hospital later today. He hopes to return to Arkansas to visit his cousin Daniel who is in critical condition following a fall into the lion exhibit at the Little Rock Zoo.

how many hours was he swallowed for and even within that short time, he needed treatment... very incongruous with Jonah's story
and respond to my earlier comment where the story of James Bartley was proven to be a fiction

damogul:
He is using a blog to dispute truth. Something that is registered with the British Admiralty and found on the headstone of the sailor.

this is an excerpt from another site.
Research, particularly bya Bible-believing professor named EdwardDavis (http://asa.calvin.edu:80/asa/pscf.html| 19:53:53 Mar 16, 2003), ultimately shows beyond a reasonable doubt that the story is a hoax. Too many aspects of the story do not stand up to scrutiny. The alleged ship, “Star of the East,” was not a whaler. There was no fishing off the Falkland Islands in 1891. Bartley’s name never appeared on a manifest of the aforementioned ship. The captain’s wife said that her husband neverlost anyone overboard in all their years of marriage, and they were married in 1891.
the story was believed as a legend for years by countries on both sides of the Atlantic but has been shown to be scientifically impossible

OMG... Damogul u have got to see this. that story u posted was actually fiction... http://www.salon.com/2012/01/15/swallowed_by_a_whale_a_true_tale/ ... u gotta love Google right!

damogul:
I suggest you research a whales digestive system functionality. Do you know that a whales stomach is 5 to 10 times the size of man? I gave that empty head an assignment which he lied about doing perhaps you can be truthful in yours.

what about the digestive enzymes inside the whale .. they start corroding your skin immediately. and the whale has four stomachs and there is no oxygen there only methane..
am not even a scientist, am just googling these things as I go along and the more I google, the more I disbelieve story