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Foreigner may be directly controlling 30% of Nigerian economy But Indirect (Funding and subsidiary governance) must be atleast 75%. And please note No Keyboard warrior can come out with exact figures above are just estimations. To get exact figures you need to go through Annual Balance Sheet report issued by every listed and unlisted company(will take a team of Charted Accountants atleast 3 months).From where your "Indegenious Industrialists" are getting finance from? You think by local banks, No African Bank has capital and capacity to sustain itself? Even these local banks are being Funded by Bank of China, Standard Chartered Britain and Exim bank India. Same thing is applied to Kenya ,Ethiopia, Ghana, Rwanda, Uganda or i would say for most of the nations. Dont make this as matter of Ego or Pride. Yes Kenya`s economy is controlled by India, China, Britain and so is yours.

Almost 30% of US economy is indirectly control of china (By the US debt Instruments) and around 8% by Japan.
Same with British economy, Total 42% of its economy is being controlled by India (Direct Acquisitions or Indirect baking funding).

Actually it shows foreign investors have positive growth return expectations for long term investment.

obaaderemi:
Nigeria is not Little India that is owned by Indians and settlers.
Show us how Air France dominates domestic travels in Nigeria.

I can see this road thing by a Nigerian company in Kenya hurts you.

Completely Agree with you,, This Chinese copy 90s era JF-17 is wastage of money, Even Chinese are not using this. It would be more feasible and logical to make an arrangement with India to upgrade and renovate these already existing inventory of Jaguars also there could be opportunity to get India`s BVR ASTRA missile with upgrade as well . This is utter wastage of funds by planners or may be there was some pressure from China?

komekn:
People should not get stuck up on definitions they are fluid and are determined by the use you put the particular asset too.,

If something can be modified then it can be used for whatever you decide too use it for, that makes it multi use and therefore multi role.

With regard to Sepecat Jaguar , probably the best set of air craft the NAF have ever acquired in recent times all 18.

However, our military has always from inception been cursed with political wranglings, tribalism and religious discrimination, the British started it as a means to prevent the south from agitating for independence.

But back to recent times, the suspicion of coup and counter coup created deep mistrust as well as undue paranoia with the senior officers. The NAF as well as the Navy required a certain degree of academic excellence and knowledge for progression. As a consequence the ability to flood the NAF and or the Navy with your own kinsmen in the past was limited.

There was a coup planned against Babangida in which NAF officers was heavily involved. They were in their positions by merit. Babangida could not control or manipulate the NAF. So he essentially rendered it impotent and the first victims were the Jaguars which they feared so much. A group of technicians came from India years back to do some assessment in civilian times and were shocked at how the aircraft were in such good condition. The all had very flight hours comparative to their ages. I expected the NAF to revive those airframes (for small money) which are still better than those Chinese rebadged Mig 21's we bought for stupid money IMO. Thankfully we are leaving those dark days behind. Unfortunately have not been able to deal with corruption completely.

It is the same historic mentality that has plagued the NPF, it seems the only weapon they have are assault rifles. Police forces across the world are equipped with MRAPS, HMG , Grenade launchers and multiple heavy to light weapons. But the fear that the NPF would therefore be equpped to stop the NA from carrying out coups or limiting the NA influence has seen that tent continue.

Because in all honesty the Mobile police force should be equipped with HMG, LAV, RPG7, Multiple light weapons Sniper rifles, and should be able to contend with BOKO. The police many a time are outgunned by criminals and why have their weapons not been upgraded to reflect the current threat levels bot with bandits and terrorists. That would free up the NA to concentrate on its core task.

Why this wastage of money? JF-17 is metallic architecture and it has only single axis Fly by wire(It would be good by late 90s era) that is why China(Manufacturer) is not even using this and selling this trash to few desperate countries.. Future is in composite Fibers. Look at their neighbor India they took time and developed their LCA Tejas from scratch, it took them time but they were determined to develop Composite materials for different section and all Axis Fly By Wire. I would say instead of buying and relying this copy trash from China it would be far far better to have few used MIG 29 etc from Russia.

GabrielYulaw:
You are right and wrong. The drone you are talking about is multi role too. It can carry either armaments or surveillance equipment. So, when the Boko issue is gone, we can use the drones to keep an eye on our borders, or loan it to the police to track bandits. And in case of invasion, these drones can do a good job of either bombing the invading army to bits or performing a reconnaissance mission.
The airforce doesn't have much aircraft. But can you ask them what happened to the Jaguar aircraft we bought a few decades ago and why they were allowed to rot. And why maintaining platforms here is incredibly difficult.

However, they are buying the JF-17 and that is multi-role enough.

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Yes you are right ,Over there in India there must be more then 600 Ethnic groups, India is a subcontinent not a country. When i went to study i was amazed to see their diversity,Iran, North Pakistan, and India`s Northern sides (Punjab, Kashmir, Delhi, Himanchal Himalaya) are the same people, while South is entirely different. Indians people we see are mostly from south,(Now i can somehow differentiate where they are from), while Northeast have mongloid features. But you are wrong at one thing. Over there there is no clash of Tribes and casts (99%) the only issue is Muslims vs Non Muslims(Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, Sikh, Atheists). Most of the problems are coming from Muslims in India. While non Muslims have two kids max, Muslims will have 6 at least. They get free ration, Free healthcare and Free Schooling (yet dont send kids to school). Now Muslims are asking a new land for themselves. I think every African nation(Particularly Nigeria) must provide land for Muslims and and make separate for Christians (With Not a single Muslim). All tribes can live together but Muslims can not live in peace with Non Muslims.

Goke7:
guy for me there is no winner here, what do we even achieve in all this in the first place, we all pushed ourselves this far all because we refuse to acknowledge our strengths and weaknesses here and there which is all part of who we are irrespective of wherever we came from, the indians that you mentioned earlier that are in very good numbers there, do you how how many ethnic groups are in India? over 600 so if they want to be dissecting them one after the other, does it worth it and really matter, see if igbos top the list, I defer and if yourbas top, others should defer too. At the end of the day what we all want is mutual respect for one another. This idea of calling others cowards, dummies and all unprintable names to score points is not just worth it. Look at the edos you said that are doing well, don't they deserve some huge respect too?. My summary is that let's always let go when we know some folks edge it over us as we also edge it over them in other areas too. Merci

Stop this horse-crap, Plenty of scientist from BharatBiotech (The same company announced second phase trial due in may for COVID-19) provides their kids the same vaccine. you know how we know?? Because in India Vaccines are even provided in schools and no one can refuse that, Till now not one researcher/vaccine developer had refused to vaccinate their kids, And these are the people working in BSL-4 Level Bio Labs (Only One in this continent owned by France), Thats not a joke. So sell you crap once you do Phd in Biotech/Molecular science or Genetic Engineering from Germany, US, India, canada, China, Swedon etc. once you get you doctorate that i will take you serious. Until then i will believe those experts who make vaccines and cures.

Horus:
Bill Gates Kills Thousands in India

The vaccines Bill Gates SOLD to India were in fact EXPERIMENTAL vaccines. Which means, by international law Bill Gates COULD be arrested and have to stand trial for violating the Nuremberg Code.

knowing this, what does the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation do for Bill Gates? They PAY Forbes magazine to run articles calling and dressing Bill Gates up as a ‘super hero’. Rather sickening.

The question has to be asked. Did the polio vaccine campaign give rise to a super polio viral strain that the pharmacological industrial complex is purposely calling NON POLIO to avoid incriminating itself? Both strains are nearly identical. However the strain CREATED BY Bill Gates polio vaccine is a ‘super charged’ (weaponized?) version of the polio virus.

The very same thing happened with smallpox after the massive European smallpox vaccine campaigns of 19th century. Before the vaccine campaigns, smallpox rarely killed people in Europe. At the height of smallpox vaccine campaign, millions of people, most of them vaccinated, had died from smallpox. That’s why no one in Europe would take the vaccines NO MATTER THE PUNISHMENT by the 1880′s. Thus, when the smallpox vaccine campaigns ended in Europe so to did the smallpox deaths, and just like today in India, the medical mafia media claims their POISON cured smallpox when in fact NOT taking the vaccine ended the small pox epidemic.

Then the question arises why world welcomes them? I guess because their Majority outshines everything, If Indians can provide CEOs of Microsoft, Google, Pepsico, Sun and can create Infosys, Tatas, Reliances and Chinese can rule the world by Alibaba, and Bank of china, then it happens. Main problem of this continent is that we look for excuses. If someone`s family has 9 members as Engineers, Doctors, Researchers and 1 as crook even then your neighbors, relatives will welcome your family but what if there are 9 bad apples and 1 is okay? Same thing is with Nigeria. Italians have mafia controls till New York still they are welcomed because there were more Enzo Ferrari type people. Another points when your house is in order everything falls in order, China and India were the past and they will be Future as well. So better if accepts our problem so that we can try to fix that.
We make fun of each other in this same continent, We run for fast money, Our politicians can sell us in bulk and we are trying to divert attention by bringing Chinese/Indians/Italians in same equation? They are in different league and different class. Thats why world is open for them. Remember Trump closed his country ?

ednut1:
in canada. Indians account for over 50% of the scammers but no one seems to use it against them

That is why half knowledge is more dangerous,

1. Its main (Primary Navigation) is Ring Laser Gyro Inertial Navigation system. (No risk of jamming/Hacking)

2. Secondary Navigation is NAAVIC(IRNSS), This satellite navigation system covers East Africa, Entire Middle east,Parts of East Europe Entire China (The main target). its accuracy is 1 to 3.9 Meter with encryption. BTW next phase will cover entire earth.

3. Third Option is to use GPS.

So tell me why do you think that A Thermonuclear Device carrying ICBM will hit the target within 3.9 meter is not accurate?? People have 5 meter size of bedrooms. Bro Its a 1 Megaton Thermonuke not paint ball dear. One is more then enough to obliterate entire city like Lagos in flash.

Basher8583:
Its not range that matters now but accuracy.
India`s ICBM (Agni 5) is still using its regional positioning system Navic and worst of all American owned and controlled GPS. Lol. That means say you no go fit fire am go blow USA and its allies be dat. Thats not accurate. Unlike China's Beiduo positioning system that is fully independent of USAs control.

There was no mention of Consumer goods thus i had to bring High Tech Manufacturing sector Example, Yes In basic consumer goods sector china is ahead of India, But when it comes to High end technology China lags, Remember There were no talk of Whether India Possessed Space warfare capability or not. But when china Destroyed its dysfunctional satellite in space soon after that India demonstrated that capability. That shows they have such capabilities and manufacturing now how the only difference is they dont want to come in limelight by doing this world always remain focused on China. Same case was with India`s ICBM (Agni 5) While India was stating the range is only 5500 km, Later Chinese defense academy proved on analytical model that Range of Indian ICBM (5) is atleast 8500 km not to mention Agni 6.

Basher8583:
Why all this long gist?
Please leave that for the manufacturers to decide.

https://www.genimexgroup.com/blog-manufacturing-in-china-manufacturing-consumer-goods-india-vs-china/

You know nothing about industry or industrialization that means, I will not float away, i will just answer your point .Boeing has huge presence in India, For their Top Notch Apaches AH-64 (Latest Version), fuselages and Mix metallurgic (Rotor hub assemblies) will be solely made in India from 2022 onward, Even Right now there is mass production going on.

Source 1 Official Website of Boeing:
https://www.boeing.co.in/boeing-in-india/tata-boeing-aerospace.page

TAS (Tata Advance system ) is the sole supplier of Cabin and Composite Wings/Rudder assemblies for Sikorsky S-92,
No matter which country operates C-130 J super Hercules from Lockhead martin TAD is the only Manufacturer of empennages and FCS.
All above is Tip of Iceberg Lets not talk about Behemoth HAL (I was fortunate enough for Apprentice on Sukhoi 30 MKI Dual Engine Air Superiority Fighter during my Engineering study in India back in 2004, Dont just assume that I am just bragging like a lot of people here, i got distinctive certificate, which i dont wanna post here at the moment), If you wanna talk about much more complex manufacturing/development, there are thousands examples with sources.

Since you see lot of cheap Chinese stuff in your local market that means Only china has infra/skills? India dont brag also thats a democracy, they have massive R& base and industries over there. We people can just talk big while doing nothing for this continent.

Basher8583:
What you don't know is the Vietnam, India, Laos and Thailand you mentioned are not technologicaly skilled. They are just hungry people looking for work. They get trained but not all can catchup. Supply chain is usually messed up because they cannot meet with demands due to poor quality factory work that has to be re-done. China still holds the aces when it comes to technologicaly skilled labour per population and they know it.

Did you know Boeing aircraft parts are being manufactured in China? Boeing has said they are not ready to move thier supply chain out of China.

Enough of your baseless crap, Who told you that Bill Gates makes Vaccines? There are 17 Research Institutes/Pharma giants in India that makes the Polio vaccination. Among them the Leaders are BharatBiotech, Biocon, Cipla, Cadila, Sun Pharma, Serum research Institutes. And for your knowledge Bharat Biotech is the same company that is in Second phase of Covid-19 vaccine trail. So you know more then these Research Institute and Multinational Pharma companies who are from India itself and yet government/Indian FDA authority will allow them? I live there for 8 years and i have seen how vast their vaccination drives is. There are thousands of Bio research engineers/scientists in India and yet they are allowing their children to be vaccinated and you have more Bio/Pharma knowledge then those Experts? Stop this.

AroleOduduwa2:
Will you keep quiet? Do you know how many children died/ became disabled after taking bill gates vaccination in India.

We haven't heard from Bill gates in a while, but since the start of this pandemic( plan demic) him and his wife have been running their mouth.

Agreed, In my university in India it was an untold principle for a good Nigerian student to not to involve too much with fellow Nigerian students. I knew a few good and sincere students whom parents had to sell the lands, houses for their kids better future but these young fellas just could not handle the Glittery lifestyle of foreign lands and things they used to see in movies, they just forgot what was their objective and there are Rich fishes from Lagos already waiting for such Nigerian kids to come and join them in "Fast money" schemes. i think there should be some short of counselling before leaving your country.

you had to find partner from Ethiopia, Congo, Ghana, Kenya etc to arrange to go and discuss with housing agent to rent an apartment.

Shamzo4u:
Being a Nigerian is number 1 offense... They will investigate on the rape later...

Why we always criticize African countries? why giving examples of India and China? We arent in same league. Both India and china has thousands of years of education system, they have their own scripts, what we have?? Go and see the level of Mathematics & Science they teach in junior secondary schools in India and China. Chinese were doing research on explosive chemicals during Ming times, India was birthplace of Mathematics, trigonometry and Complex metallurgy since ancient times and same basic knowledge were transferred to Spain via Arab traders. Since when we have started studying mathematics? 70s. so please compare oranges to oranges. Y China and India they have ruled centuries and they will. Only thing we can do here is stop making fun of our neighboring nations.

Performanking:
Exactly, China is playing chess, while America is playing checkers. The level of illiteracy in America is there for all to see. While they are fighting among them selves, China, India are getting stronger and more relevant. If only Nigeria was ready to take the mantle.

As i suspected , never heard of this review webpage, Btw what other users are quoting is from Wiki or IMF website. There are millions of web pages but you need to choose the authentic source.

Sunshineg5:
https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/countries-by-gdp/

Regards

Please share the reference, so we can validate the same because i was reading from IMF website itself so no fabrication

Sunshineg5:
No sir, I was referring to the real and Norminal GDP of the same year.

yes we can just talk while world moves ahead, I injured my leg in my University Hostel back in 2004, University was far from any City and After First Aid my Roommate called his Indian friends and they took me in nearby Small Clinic (Intended to serve nearby 2,3 villages), I was amazed to see How well advanced that small clinic was and how responsive the doctors was. They took my X Ray (too see if bones are okay) I was given 3,4 Medicines,2 tubes of Gel then My Ethiopian friend asked at reception how much we should pay and answer was INR 1, (Naira 5), we were like and he said it is for your registration, Then we realized its Government clinic. Trust me that setup and system can put our so called big hosptals to shame. and i am talking about that small Village clinic. We are failed by our leaders and by ignorant people.

koffsman:
The annoying part is that the western world need Africa to survive but in Africa we are carried away by their advancement that Happened with the sweat and blood of our ancestors our leaders are mofoos and modafuckers but some stupid hypocrite will still say otherwise saying we have the best government, a government that can't defend it's citizen against there fellow African countries what a big shame

Yes, But what i think is China India Border as most peaceful border, Both are ancient civilizations so if get latest 3000 year history then there are almost no war between them (just small skirmishes of 1962 China won and Chhola war 1967 India won). Western media always try to twist things.

Kalapizim:
The above won't work considering their proximity.

Make dem Sha settle their matter

Are you referring 2010 IMF data? India was at 5th Position ahead of UK in 2019, By End of next year India is going to surpass Germany.

Sunshineg5:
Lying is in your DNA

Can't you see that what you posted is real GDP not norminal

India can't make the first five in Norminal GDP of top countries in the world

Can you see how France and UK is ahead of India in Nominal GDP but below it when inflation is accounted for.

India has opened its vault, Law in place that everyone will be paid like before, Even Largest Petrochemical Refiner Reliance is giving 25% more salary. Till yesterday 23 Billion USD had been transferred to Women accounts, Yesterday Free Rice, Wheat, Sugar etc was announced for 95% of population. Absolutely Free healthcare and this was from Federal Government now every state is providing something. You can not compare how efficiently they have manged, BTW Indian FCI has announce 3 years worth of grain stocks for whole nation. Our Politicians can not even do 5% of what India`s Government is doing for their citizen. Or maybe they have Good citizen or Good politicians i dont know.

Reference:
You are being evasive, insensitive and economical with the truth just like our government. What do you mean by, 'it is better to be hungry for a month or two....' Where have you seen anyone in the world at anytime, through any experience starve himself to death because he feared danger of death.

Just think about it for a minute. It is just not psycholigically possible. No one can do this no matter the risk assessment. Even in war people willgo out to forage for food as we have seen in Syria, Iraq and even Bornu. Please just don't go there. The lo ger the lockdown the less the compliance. Take it or leave it. You cannot appeal this.

French, Italians, Americans they copy are not starving in their homes. The palliatives India is rolling out amounts to 11 trillion naira yet they are still in a battle to lockdown. Civil strife is going on there too.

Both China and India have Thermonukes, ICBMs, and Nuclear Traid, War means Mutual assured Destruction for both. So there can never be a war like it never happened between US and Soviet Union(Russia now). Both China and India are aware that Wets wants them to stand up to each other so that West can ensure supremacy for next century but it will not happen. There are negligible chances of small skirmishes. Both can destroy each other hundreds of times.

EzzyCarter:
Now, those are money-hungry rats . They probably migrated from Nigeria

Every race has racist people accept this, Racism depends upon location, In my university I have seen worst racism against whites in India that none can imagine, Chinese hates Africans, And in return African hates everyone. World is like this.

And you can not develop your land until you got proper educated people and for that you need to go abroad. If you will see the Level of Mathematics and Physics in Chinese, Indian and Korean Junior secondary level school you will just go speechless, China and India are ancient civilizations particularly India was innovator of mathematics and that is how its in their blood. We are seeing Mathematics and Physics since 70s so you need to go there to learn. Nothing wrong in going and learning, after that its Governments duty to help to create good environment for better utilization of skills African can bring back.

omoharry:
Indians are not better..They are even worse.They have a cast system in their county so racism is part of their culture .
African should look inward and trade among themselves .But that is impossible becos of who we are.
We will continue to be treated like the scum of the earth until we decide look inward and start loving ourselves,develope our lands and our people , other nations of the world will continue to treat us like trash and no one will take us seriously .we have to stop begging and collecting hand out from these advanced nations.We have to fight on our own for a better country for other countries to take us seriously.
You can imagine these chinkos with their ugly slit eyes are the ones descriminating against another race.Later they will be the first to shout racism in the western countries.

Only USA, EU, INDIA, JAPAN can take action rest all of us can just pray that it happen.

CoronaVirusPro:
Yes!

India was already aware of Chinese economic threat, They are the only Country from Asia to Middle east that openly rejected any Chinese One belt initiatives, even though two routes of silk roads passes through India. Every smartphone and computer manufacturer has factories in India and they can look eyeball to eyeball to china, Be it Military might, Industrial capacity or Economic growth. There wiill be no war as it will be Mutually assured destruction of both as Both have ThermoNukes ,ICBMs and Nuclear Traid. But with USA and japan they can squeeze Chinese economy.

koffsman:
Now they are witch-hunting their best customers by being racist and driving them to the street all they need is a country that's better in engineering that will give them better offer gbam it's over for China and am sensing India will take over from them

USA, India, Australia and West will bring china on its Knees. Even in these times India is doing massive deployment of Mountain Strike corps and Supersonic Brahmos Missiles in Himalayas, USA is sending more and more ships to Taiwanese waters. Bad days are coming for china. Britishers are furious and asking explanation on daily mail. bad days are coming for china.

Agreed and add on, Just today i was reading that Worlds Largest Petrochemical Refiner Reliance India has announce to give 25% extra salary during lockdown so that workers will dont have to take financial stress, Can we imagine in this continent?
I was reading worldwide donations and those Indian Business owners literally opened there vault for their nation, Here we all look for some "Extra Income" doesnt matter we are Rich or POOR.

Reference:
You can do better than this. India is rolling out 27 billion dollars stimulus. The Spanish construction industry has restarted. Italy to follow shortly even with a pan EU stimulus of 500 million dollars and solid job guarantees.

Four weeks means a whole payroll cycle is lost. How many firms in Nigeria will be able to continue in business without mass retrenchment. Will their workers form part of the poor, eligible for bailouts....

That 27 Billion Dollars stimulus is extra then Free electricity (upto 200 units in many states), Free Cooking Gas, Free Healthcare and PD Ration. Not to mention Medicine in India cost like nothing.
I my view that package is huge, can any African leader even think about 5% of what India is doing and that to only for Poorest? I dont think so, doesn't matter which African country. I have no hope

Neoteny7:
Spain and italy both went through their periods of lockdowns, and only considered easement when things improved a little.

We've not reached anywhere near our peak, so it's too early to talk about easing.

27 billion dollars is almost nothing for 1.3 billion people in india.

I thought your argument was against the lockdown, not the social cushions.

Nothing new, It was well known in late 90s that India and China are going to dominate the world for many coming centuries as they were dominating till 18th now the question is where African nations will be standing again?
Can we get worse rulers/dictators? or any chance of improvements in few years? what do you think?

WATCHOVER:
has the lock down not been extended?.
It has been extended!. Just that when we talk people don't want to believe.

This coronavirus is a Biological Weapon. The Chinese did it to DISPLACE United States from remaining as World Power, they saw this as an opportunity because they discovered that the United States is no longer United. If United States was United their plan would have been scuttled this virus wouldn't have come to this point. Unfortunately China will Suffer because the countries that would have supported them for their dreams to materialise were also badly affected e.g. France, Italy, Spain, Brazil, United Kingdom etc. As it stands this countries are going to support United States to lead the revolution that will displace China from becoming the Economic Hub or Workshop of the world any moment from now.
I see India, Indonesia, Taiwan becoming the next economic hub of the world.

Read this reference 39 are foreigner

https://nigerianfinder.com/top-50-companies-in-nigeria/

AskiaHarem:
I went and checked and 98% of them are completely Nigerian as expected. Keep your neo-colonilism in your own hole. I know misery likes company but keep us out of your problems.

Population but still this FDI is not enough for its Size and stature.

obaaderemi:
But then both Nigeria and Ghana got more foreign investment than Kenya. How do you explain that, man?

https://santandertrade.com/en/portal/establish-overseas/nigeria/investing

Nigeria strives to engineer and control it's on destiny?? But Reality is different, Chinese, Indian, UAE investors controls you and your economy and yes that is true for Kenya and Ghana as well, Go and study all of your big companies, they are all from Foreign. Actually very Few Good Governing countries are getting benefits of real Skill development and Learning from Indian and Chinese companies are Ethiopia and Rwanda, rest all African nations can just grows banana, Coffee and Tea.

AskiaHarem:
Why do you coons keep coming here telling us about the foreign handouts you receive? We don't care what your Indian overlords are doing for you. Nigeria strives to engineer and control it's on destiny which it does the best of any state in Aboriginal Africa.

But one thing is for sure, Investors feels safe for Ghana and Kenya, much safer then Giant of Africa. Do you know INDORAMA Group from Singapore (Funded by EXIM Bank India) that has huge presence in Nigeria and a big job provider was reluctant to invest in Nigeria and then Nigerian government
had to bring Indian government in discussion to persuade Investor (who is Indian BTW) to bring that huge investment and plant in Lagos. It is Indian Government safety guarantee that brought investment here, while same can not be said about Ghana or Kenya. Investors from Singapore, China, india wants safety whether its about money or about their Technical Specialists coming from abroad.

AskiaHarem: