Pastor Kun:

Absolutely nobody alive today observes the biblical tithe laws to the letter. The conditions for observing that law are no longer in existence or applicable. That is apart from the fact that the bible makes it clear that the law has been done away with.

It is IMPOSSIBLE to observe TITHING fully.

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Brother Goshen, the truth is that people will still continue to tithe, no doubt about that, same as offerings will still be given. But if people tithe, right or wrong notwithstanding, they should do it as an act of devotion and worship out of love for Him, and not an act of bribing God or using to look for one nonsense wealth.
God has always been, and is still, in the business of giving His people wealth, but not by one erroneous man-made law(s) of me not tithing and things being tight - for where?

Pastor Kun:

I am just infurated with the guy, he is fond of sending bulk emails to promote his so called ministry and solicit for funds through various manipulations. Claiming to use it to spread the gospel. Another annoying thing is that he never responds to question on the useless threads he regularly opens on this forum.

Don't mind him and his likes. We will continue to expose them and their antics, as many of you have been doing.

Stay blessed!!!

@OP, kindly stop that saying "Tithing is the power to get wealth". That statement is highly erroneous.

Uncle surveryor1, please pardon me for not acknowledging your response; I'm sorry.
Thanks so much.

posdream: its the lords doing sis, it will be permanent IJN. So so so happy for you. GO WELL.

Na you be this?
Visa go rain this month o with your August appearance

@sister mimi1147, congratulations. Go and prosper in Australia and do Nigeria proud. I guess you are going to University of Adelaide right?

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We don't need to be insulting when correcting notions, my brother.

@OP, I have a question for you and I would love your answers:
Can you fully tithe? I mean tithe completely .

If the Church of Christ is not going to learn now, she is going to learn the hard way.
I desire and pray for a great and prosperous Nigeria, where developmental and economic challenges will be at the lowest ebb, but we should know that should Nigeria attain that status, by His grace we will, then the church is going to learn the hard way. Many people will abandon church and the pews we are seeing today will become scanty.
WoF has succeeded in doing one thing; seeking God for His favours and promise of fanciful things,taking the center stage. Not that in those things are not good, but we must remember that the way God does His things are beyond the doings of man, faith or no faith apart.

Although I would have been part of the discourse all these while, but the kind of insults and counter-insults by the proponents of WoF and those against it are not what describes a believer at all. We grow in understanding on daily basis, even in the secular world, we have no full knowledge/understandings of things we see daily; how much more the things not seen at all. Even some of the early apostles didn't fully comprehend the salvation agenda, which was made available to both Jews and Gentiles, and that in God's agenda segregation is been done away with, until The Father had to raise Paul, the Apostle.

That said, I will still lay the blame of errancy of any creed, WoF or Word of Power (if anything were like that) to the people that follow it without following the Scriptures. The problem is that we are not behaving like the Berean Christians at all, and many of us are looking for those things that suit us, which is why I will always respect the Christians in communist China or few-existent ones in North Korea or the ones in Arabian countries where persecution is like a food to them, compared to us.

Having been/being with a ministry that has Rev'd Kenneth E Hagin (of blessed memory) as one of its mentors, I know about the WoF very well. However, I can say that many parts of the Scriptures are being misused, among which include 3 John 2. May God help His church and also we help ourselves too.

@Surveyor1, is your program PhD or MPhil? Would also like to know if you secured funding.

Thank you.

texaco1: yes , bro . i duff my hat for you . and please if you want Nigeria to change you have to join the process and contribute your own quota .it will be good to see people like you at the helms of affairs in Nigeria . and when the time comes please join pdp. PDP , the party to beat , the party to be in ,wont you rather party with us .

I am not into politics but into good governance.
Supported 'Doja in 2003 but was disappointed in the way he led the state. Would have supported Akala in 2007 but the betrayal he put up against his former boss was a big turn-off for me, and he doesn't even have the skill and ability to carry out good governance. Sad Ajimobi lost the election in 2007 but still supported him through till 2011 and still does that till now because I am after good governance.

Ladoja won't compete for sure, as I don't even want him there sef, but him working with Akala/PDP, let's wait and see then. As for Akala, he wasn't really keen on coming back, but with the surprise spin of Ekiti poll, he is anticipating more, but as I said earlier, let's wait and see.

God keep us alive and healthy till then.

texaco1: good analysis , but you see pdp has something , before any election they usually disagree or fight each other but once a candidates emerges ,they all unite eg ekiti state .
the cake is enough for all party member . the case of the ex governor is understandable and what will eventually happen is each strong power broker will be given a geographical jurisdiction . there is a lot i can say on a public forum but when the chips are down you will see that all their fighting boils down to how to get a share of the prize.just wait bro you will see what will happen . and thanks a lot for arguing and discussing without throwing insults , i am really very happy to be discussing with you

I may not want to agree with bold because Oyo State is quite big, compared to Ekiti State, and not with our politicians behaving as prostitutes all around; APC, PDP inclusive.

I am looking forward to their primaries anyway but as it is the fight for the state may be between APC and Accord. The civil service still has a tilt towards the former because Ladoja treated them well in his time, reason why AP will always hold sway at Egbeda LG.

mandarin: While I wish governor elect, Fayose well in delivering on ,his electioneering promises, I wish to see Ekiti that is focused and progressive.Before I conclude,let me state that the civil servants/teachers were the undoing of Fayemi who wanted to bring change by thinking outside the box but was too un-tactical to throw the box to his competitor!!! He wanted change but could not satiate the ever selfish political class and civil servants. Fayose should balance the two.I wish him the best.

We are not ready for change at all, and that was what the people demonstrated. Corruption is not the xter of our leaders alone, but also in the led too.

Oga Texaco, I agree that crisis can happen within a group, as it is quite normal, but not like that of what is going on in PDP. Right now, the division is along the geographical position on the state, one in Oyo South and 2 in Oyo North, with the ex-governor as one of them. The trio fighting for control now are all opportunists, and no one of them will look the side of a man like Arapaja at all, if power is what we are talking about, hence my saying he is in the wrong party.
That is their issue anyway.

My issue is the present government to do well for the State, and I am not disappointed so much, although little angry.

texaco1: wrong party
ok we shall see

Wrong party? Yes sir!
Who are the people like him that are in the party in the state? I am talking of a principled man here, and not an opportunist, like the ones parading themselves right now. PDP is even in crisis now, as there is a struggle for control of the party by one person, to be like a godfather.

texaco1: no be me talk am ooooo

Yes, I can say it anywhere. Arapaja is a good and gentleman but he is in a wrong party.

petrus4good:

You see am!

Akanbi_edu:

True but Tinubu can't be everywhere. Fayemi is closer to the Ekiti people and understand them better.


As sophisticated as Lagos looks, grassroot politics is still played by Tinubu. Left to Fashola, APC would have lost there. Fashola and Fayemi are alike in many ways.

The Ekiti election has been, and will be, raising so many questions in the heart of many. While I have my reservations about the Fayemi administration, I believe the state deserves better than Fayose. 4 years is not long for us to know who did right or wrong. The state citizens do not have the right to complain about the affairs of the state, as they have made their choice in a clear-cut manner. I wish the governor-elect success in his incoming tenure, but I am not expecting anything stellar.

As for the words in bold, I believe the associates at the government and party level didn't do much up to expectation, as they are the ones that are closer to the people more than the governor himself., so I put the blame on them. The party at the council level didn't do anything much at all, if I were to consider the distribution of money and other material things, and this indicates that we still have a long way to go if we want progress for our nation.

texaco1: just wait and see . there is no need to rush ,just wait

If he is a former HoR member, then I guess it is Arapaja; a good man, no doubt about that.

ferdimako: Hi all, I got additional 2 points from my latest and last IELTS, so I will wait on my Master's degree to claim 68 points for Canadian PR-FSWP. Next year things! Oz's PR is killed. I'm out!

Congratulations brother.
For the words in bold, you are not serious at all.

surveyor1: I came, I conquered. Victory at last. My postgraduate research visa had been granted grin. Happy mood activated.

Great news and congrats. It remains Mr CConcept.

MOBJECTIVE: I'd be happier if an osun state indigene owned the company

Don't think any Nigerian is in mining business at present, due to our natural resources not being tapped or looked into, but maybe it can happen in the nearest years. My only fear is the use of Chinese miners instead of the locals.

I think the government needs to fire the contractor working on that project. It's too slow for my liking. The government had earlier told them the project needed to be ready by September, no even knowing that there would be a disaster before that time.

I didn't write what I wrote because of those who visit night club or beer joint or what have you. I asked you a question to know whether it is right or sinful for a believer to play football or not since it is their passion and I expected your answers.
Maybe you would say that since many of our classmates in school were exam cheats or conducted exam malpractices, we who were believers should have vacated the exam hall for them or ask the examiners to arrange a new time or date for us to write ours, or maybe you could say that since a percentage of people believers have as colleagues in their workplaces are not truthful or faithful, then the children of God should not work again.

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What's wrong with a believer playing football in the first place? Is it a sin or is the Lord against it?

What of the believers in the football profession? Are they demonic or have sold their souls to the devil too

Assuming that the certificate forgery is true, what was the Senate's business during the screening exercise? If private businesses could go as far as verifying the authenticities of certificates obtained, how much more the Senate of the Federal Republic of Nigeria? What are they legislating then?
I don't have any ounce of blame on the woman at all, even if it's true she lied about the degree 'cos the people saddled with the responsibility of defending the nation are all untruthful in the first place.

@Op, did she showcase any trait of violence or anger mismanagement issue when you were courting? If she did and you still went ahead to marry her without sorting it out, I would rather have you blamed. Besides that, I would implore you not to involve girls/ladies at this stage of your life, either now or later, because it will be dangerous for you or the girl.
While you were dating/courting, did you run background check on her family? I can deduce from here that it is not a physical/psychological issue at all but a spiritual one. Asides that, you need to even inform her parents/family because it is gotten to the level in which you have to do so now. Let your own family know the problem at hand.

kulyie: smh,arindin

Mo ku rire o

@D_BestDoc, no matter how pissed off the man could have been that doesn't still call for him to badmouth/downgrade the lady. She is his wife-to-be and needs to be treated as one with dignity, honour, pride and respect.
Let's see it this way; you have a friend and you have disagreement with that friend of yours. Would you need the consent of parents to settle issue with her? This lady is supposed to be her man's best friend and numero uno, yet he is now ridiculing her with all those kinds of behaviour. How do you expect her to feel? What the man is try to say covertly is that she is not worth to be esteemed at all. Whether she causes the problem or not is not the case here but the way the man is meant to deal with the issue. Assuming the lady is the one guilty here, it's better for them to deal with this issue amidst each other than to result in badmouthing her in public [even doing so in private is uncalled for]. Remember, whatever is presented cheaply in public has lost its pride and value, whether in public or not.

todayguest: Remember that's a serious decision to take you know. How old are you? It's difficult for me to lend my support. When I call to mind what my people usually say " that there's no better place" If this guy's place is bad-mouthing. Can you tell the next guy's place? Please talk to him about it.

I would have said you gave a nice opinion but let's look at what the lady said critically;

numdes:
I saw a very different side of him. Anger, lying, badmouthing me to his family and he kept calling my people to report me for little things that we can easily deal with as a couple.

No problem with this at all. Even the best couples on earth always display a new side of theirs at times; what could be termed 'human dynamics'.

I saw a very different side of him. Anger, lying, badmouthing me to his family and he kept calling my people to report me for little things that we can easily deal with as a couple.
I'm fed up, I'm calling of this wedding, my question is: is it too late after introduction? I really need matured advice. Thanks

We can be angry, human emotions at work, but the ability to subdue anger and not carried towards misbehaviour depends on maturity. That can also be talked and walked out depending on the level of maturity of the parties involved.

I saw a very different side of him. Anger, lying, badmouthing me to his family and he kept calling my people to report me for little things that we can easily deal with as a couple.
I'm fed up, I'm calling of this wedding, my question is: is it too late after introduction? I really need matured advice. Thanks

Lack of integrity. If he could lie, he cannot be trusted at all. A liar will cheat, won't be trustworthy at all and may end up putting one's life in jeopardy. If he cannot be trusted when pre-marriage is in course, how would he be trusted when the marriage now kicks off? That too can be remedied, depending on the psychological (and spiritual) inclination and maturity of the Miss (and Mr).

I saw a very different side of him. Anger, lying, badmouthing me to his family and he kept calling my people to report me for little things that we can easily deal with as a couple.

Now the very big problem. The woman never come in, he don dey badmouth her in front of family members. How would you expect him to talk about her when she becomes Mrs at the end? What he is doing is like downgrading/relegating/depreciating/devaluing his wife-to-be in front of others, the person she is supposed to see as her other half. In his subconscious, he has already played her on the level of an inferior personality, and has seen her as not precious to her at all. One would have reasoned that he loves her afterall and that is why he wants to marry her, but psychoanalytically, he doesn't.

numdes:
I'm fed up, I'm calling of this wedding, my question is: is it too late after introduction? I really need matured advice. Thanks

I will say leave him, but the onus is still on you to follow your discretion.

nikkyshyne: I asked because if he is ok in other aspect, she shouldn't call off the wedding just like that and run. What she need do is to postpone the wedding and give an ultimatum. Our happiness or your parent's. From his response, she should know what to do. Simplez!

Would have agreed to what you put up here had it been that the boy man hadn't started showing this tendency until recently. He has been on it for some couple of months now and this is never gonna change at all, not even any time soon. The only solution right now is calling it off/dissolution of the courtship. Mind you, courtship is a mini-marriage.

jaybeyblu: @ nikkyshine I love him and he is very caring but like someone said the family house problems beclouds everything and 90 percent of our misunderstanding is because of his staying in his family house.Whenever I give him an ultimatum he would start calling everybody, my sisters, brothers and friends to talk to me that he would move out, and actually that period he would contact agents and start searching for a house, but in the process of that he would be giving some funny conditions like: 'I don't like upstairs because my mom is not so strong she may not be able to climb it' but even as at that he went as far as buying properties for the new apartment and I was convinced that he would move out we kept tabs on a particular house, but later on we got disappointed as the lady that was supposed to pack out told us her sister was interested in the house. So my man stopped searching for another house and I try to talk about it he would start quarreling all over again. It is not like I have been there folding my arms for 3 yrs I would insist he should move out he would make a move that period when I relax believing he is serious to move out he would give one excuse that he is eating the rent money he would replace it next month and that's how he would relax and not move out again.

You have tried your best in changing the situation, to be truthful, but all has proven abortive. The only thing you can do now is to end or break the courtship and cancel the wedding. My dear, it won't change at all when you get married. Not sounding "doomnastic" though, you will surely have issues and chances that you will be trapped and end up getting abused (especially emotional-wise) is high. In fact, there is a wild raging fire on the mountain in going along with the man.
In marriage, there is the leaving part and the cleaving part. Your man is not ready to do the second part at all and that was why I used 'boy' for him up there. Even if he leaves that place, which is highly improbable, the mother will still come along and it will cause strain in your home.
Be wise my sister!!!

Miss Jeybeyblu, for the fact that you fixed wedding date means you yourself aint serious at all. Even the OP case is not as catastrophic as and yet it is improper to live with his mama with the new wife talk less of your own situation.
Besides, na Mr Dick ohne Sinn you wan marry. You had better forget the man before it turns to "Aswani market"