₦airaland Forum

2dugged:
I just tire for this people, if it's fulani herdsmen attack or even bomb blast, you will not hear any official statement from the presidency, this people just keep exhibiting alk shades of cluelessness every time, even some of the zombies of the federal Republic of Nigeria have gone under ground, while some have moved to family and romance sections

Very funny @ the bolded.

This is what we get when there are too many media aides all trying to show they are working in order to justify their salaries.
Then again, this is a prove that there is misplacement of priorities under this administration. There are more serious things to respond to, yet they took time out to respond to nothing of value in this precarious time.

These people are trying their best to prove to us in each passing day that we made a mistake as a nation.

However, I continue to hope and enjoin others to hope that things get better because it is terrible out here.

What kind of pain are these ministers saying they know of? That they are in pain too. Are they for real?
They have food on their tables, they have money to spend, they have kids abroad, and they are here talking about feeling the pain too.
These guys should just STFU already. Trying to show they care actually make them sound stupid.

Somebody is even scared of buying indomie now....

2dugged:
So?,there are pressing issues plaguing this country and all the presidency can come up with is this?,how does this epp Nigerians?, this government is just all shades of cluelessness and confusion, na real fuji house of commotion government, meteeeeew

Lol

this is no good.
This woman should keep away from these sycophants urging her to contest. They may not mean well for her.

If she does contest, good luck to her

Lets hope it works. But then, they should understand that the CBN right now lacks the capacity to meet our dollar needs.
The dollar demand is high so this in my opinion is an attempt to climb Everest.

grodt999:
Well you made some good points but you are also part of the problem...it is either people who do not know or those or only know enough not to help fix it.

Lets discuss the commonsense of YOUR statement "However, the blame still goes to the leaders because even the devil is believed to give with one hand and take with the other, but our leaders only takes until the country winds up dead.

1, how can you blame LEADERS who despite the citizens knowing they are crooks are allowed to win fraudulent elections or carry out military coup without the citizens doing much about it? Even if some of these people got to leadership legally why do the citizens allow them stay in power knowing they are ineffective...DO YOU HOESTLY THINK IF NIGERIAN CITIZENS ARE NOT MORONS WHO ARE TO BLAME, THIS WILL HAPPEN?

2, You mentioned the devil (a concept that no one on this planet know yet Nigerians like you legitimize the existence and use it to shape your mentality! Is that also the fault of LEADERS

3, Did you say the leaders take until the country wind up dead?
Nigerian Citizens have stolen, defrauded and corrupted the country more than any leaders will ever do. There is no sector (private and public) where nigerian citizens work and not take bribe. Even street food sellers will give you expired products, collect gratification for services, 419 you, armed robbers, fake pastors/imams,,,,Nigeria is packed with criminals, thieves and conmen yet you are blaming WHO? LEADERS?
Is it the leaders that asked ibo people to carry drugs to Asia and other parts of the world, is it leaders who are sending prostitutes to Italy...despite the fact that Nigeria is not the poorest country on earth?
Nigerian population is nearly 200 million despite hunger and starvation...children are being born into instant poverty by citizens not leaders.
Fake chinese rice, toxic waste, contraband and other illegal substances are being put in circulation to kill fellow Nigerians but your response is leaders!!!

you cannot even enter Nigeria without some citizen wearing a uniform asking you for bribe to enter your own country.

Is it leaders who are doing land 419 all over Nigeria? You cannot leave your house in Nigeria without another Nigerian trying to murder, attack, cheat, abuse and terrorise you!

I beg get a life jare!

You made good points I must say. But then, I must say again that you are very temperamental, judging by your conclusion. You don't have to sound rude in order to be emphatic.
Nearly everything you said above can be classified under my earlier statement that "bad leadership is a product of bad society". This statement explains that our society is bad, and it is this bad society that is responsible for our leaders behaving in a manner they are not suppose to. I also said the onus is on all Nigerians to contribute positively to the growth of the country through the little roles we play at the family level and society at large.

Again, I said earlier that an average Nigerian creates problems for himself and society at large. I believe this statement explains all the anomalies you highlighted above that are associated with Nigerians.

Again, the aspect where I said the devil, you ought to know that it is figurative, and doesn't mean whether anyone has seen the devil. It is a common believe that the devil is a bad guy and that he perpetrate evil, that serves as the background for its usage in my comment. I don't think I am wrong for doing that.

On the area where I blamed the leaders which appear to upset you is unavoidable in this discourse.
First, politics belongs to the superstructure. This means that it is politics that allocate values to every other sector of society. This is followed closely by law and economy.
Leadership is a product of politics in Nigeria, therefore can be used to encourage or discourage social behaviour. That includes all the vices you mentioned above that are associated with Nigerians.

My brother, like where you have smoke, there is fire, where humans exist, there is a state, where there is a state, there is politics, and where there is politics, there is power. The power here can be used to build or destroy, punish or reward, make good or make bad etc.
Why I apportioned some of the blame to the leaders is because they are the ones who exercise this power.

Leadership is suppose to be responsive so that the citizens can make informed choices in order to lead the good life.

Finally, the part where you said I should get a life, I don't think I did anything wrong to deserve that abrasive comment. I mean, you barely know me, so it is not morally correct for you to say that.

People should be more cosmopolitan in outlook when making contributions here. I think throwing insults is gradually becoming a Nigerian problem which our leaders will have to solve too.

Thank you

jukejoint:
You know nothing about America. Russia is no match for the real capability of US military might . Not everything is revealed . In fact ,Russia is promoted by Amerian press as having sophisticated weapons while undermining American military. it's all part of the plot.

So you believe real Russian military capability is revealed?
American military might is overrated, and i believe America is aware of the damage Russia can cause.
Despite the edge they have over the Russians, America cannot destroy Russia as alleged. War is a complex thing, one decision is enough to turn the table...

Edenoscar:
amen!

If not for NATO, turkey would be begging for forgiveness,
#putin #russia

Well said.
It is NATO that can save Turkey from this provocation

grodt999:
And the citizens are not illiterates?
How do you describe people who buy private jets for fake pastors and become enslaved to a religon founded by a paedophile terrorist?
How do you describe people who know they cannot feed children but have them in abundance anyway?
How do you describe people who employ low level chinese, indian and Lebanese immigrants and call them master?

If you want to know the problem of Nigeria look at the average citizen!

This your comment is a masterpiece. Short yet speaks volume.

Bad leadership is a product of bad society so do bad laws. Nigerians are responsible for the bad leaders we have today. An average Nigerian creates problems for himself and society on daily bases, some even insurmountable.

However, the blame still goes to the leaders because even the devil is believed to give with one hand and take with the other, but our leaders only takes until the country winds up dead.

The onus therefore is on all Nigerians to contribute positively to the growth of the country through the little things we do as individuals at the family level, and society at large.

ZUBY77:
How do we start to manufacture the conspiracy theory this time?
Do we call it Donald Trump and his gang already shipping arms to destabilise Nigeria?

Or John Kerry and his band of world evil sending arms to support Buhari against conspired and imminent fabricated war from Trump?

Or do we just come home and blame the ipod youths or Afonja as you blockheads have tagged your neighbours negatively? or Fulani Herdsmen?
The Nigerian youth has taken off their eyes from mental and mindset development to blaming each tribe each time anything bad happens.
And the bastards in Government Houses saw it as an opportunity to make life unbearable for you.
Keep tagging your fellow common man and watch your life waste away for nothing.

Well said....

This is madness...

[quote author=Lakeland4321 post=52059602]What don't you understand, the DSS has done a very thorough and professional job. The fact that Magu is also working for the good of the country it doesn't mean if some questionable things are discovered about him it should just be swept under the carpet. National security is very important and ANYBODY who is perceived to be a threat can be indicted. [b]I am sure you know that If our security agencies want to work they can do so efficiently. [quote]Of course.
But the thing is that the president ought to have done a background check on him before sending his name for confirmation.
That would have saved this drama at least.
The whole drama makes Mr. President look unserious and confused

Aufbauh:
Magu is going nowhere! Does this sounds difficult for lobbyists to understand?

If Magu has to go, a more dreaded and unfriendly chair will arise.
The senators are simply digging their own grave unknowingly; If Magu survives this, his post reactionary stance will be tougher and a new man come on board he will want to outdo his predecessor to please Baba.

The drama over this Magu's confirmation is very annoying and ridiculous.
If Magu is supported by Mr. President, why is the DSS indicting him? Or is the DSS no longer controlled by Mr. President?
There is something I'm not understanding here....can someone explain please!

megbu:
You get my point. Our political system and by implication our destiny has been hijacked by power seekers whose primary interest has no resonance with the aspirations of the man on the street. We are running a rat race because the same people are lining up to contest in 2019. Don't be surprised to be asked then to chose between Atiku and Buhari. Is that having a choice? Trust me its easy to unite this country in the elections, Nigerians are smarter than we care to give ourselves credit. We just need to see a credible choice if not it is back to tribalism and regionalism cos that will be the last criteria since every other criteria is non existent.

So TRUE.
@bolded, I am afraid the choice is right before us already, at least I have seen a little online, even here on nairaland.
My question now is, will there be redemption for Nigeria? If there is, at what cost?
With what is hanging over our heads concerning 2019 like you rightly opined, our visit to the wilderness is far from over

megbu:
You are sound my dear but sometimes you can't help being insultive. That said I think you and many pro GEJ share the same view. Deep inside they knew the man was corrupt but when they look at the squad lined up against him as opposition, Tinubu, Amaechi, Obasanjo,Atiku,Sarrki, Audu Ogbe and so on they felt their sensibilities is being insulted. Nigerians wanted change but these guys wanted power and super contracts. Somebody like me was yearning for a young performer from the north to preside over my affair not an unbending, stubborn strong sheriff. We just want a smart man that will come in and strengthen our institutions, show us the way and leave us alone to thrive happily. We knew Nigeria was in need of change in 2015 but must it be Buhari. I think this was why the SE and SS felt that it was a gang up against GEJ because there is no difference between him and those that want him out. Our party system must be revised so that credible people could be presented to us during elections to be able to make informed choices. Not always asking the electorate every four years to chose between the devil and the deep blue sea.

Thank you so much for this piece.
All we wanted was for someone to come and set the prerequisites for development to thrive, and leave us alone to grow.
But what we have seen so far is the usual Wednesday meetings with no corresponding gains on the part of the masses. Award of contracts to friends and wards, people claiming to clean the system with more dirty hands etc.

Nigeria is bigger than Jonathan and Buhari, so people should stop playing drama about who is better and start talking to those available to do the right thing.

There is opportunity for improvement no matter the conditions so Mr. President should buckle up.

famosh:
Absolutely spot on. I see many people here claiming to be intelligent because they support an ineffectual buffoon but can't put situations in perspective. None of the dull Jonathan sycophants here has given a good analysis as you've done.

A Jonathan that, WITH OIL BOOM, met a GDP growth of 7.68% in 2011 & left it at 2.35% in 2015, is that an improvement? is that one a president? Buhari is failing, but these dull Jonathan sycophants shouldn't think we regret voting out the ineffectual buffoon. Somebody that was already borrowing to pay salaries a few months to the end of his tenure just because oil price fell a bit lower than usual, wetin him for dey do now that oil price doesn't even want to go up again and he can't cut wastages in government because of massive corruption around him? That guy na bad luck abeg.

My brother, calling others unprintable names just to prove a point doesn't make you intelligent either. You should understand that like noses, everyone has their own understanding and interpretation of what reality is.

Using Jonathan as a template for assessing Buhari in my opinion is so wrong.
There is a general agreement that Jonathan did poorly but that is not a ticket for Buhari to do poorly with what is available.

Let us stop using Jonathan to determine if Buhari is doing well or not. Saying Jonathan had so much money yet did not do well, so Buhari should do worse is not the right pointer.
Shining a little light in darkness when there is opportunity to shine it all is nothing better.
President Buhari could have done better than what it is now with the little available. I bet you will agree with me on this.

Good morning

2dugged:
I think I can fathom why they only shout Jonathan upandan, because he happens to be the only southerner on the list, and looking at past presidents we have more of hausas let's not even start with abacha and ibb, and even this same buhari they are calling a saint now

So TRUE....
This Buhari guy, with the opportunity given to him now, we already know who he is and what he can do.
As for the rest you mentioned, they are nothing to write home about too. Jonathan was just too naive and lacklustre.

Sometimes I wonder why Nigeria is nourished with bad leaders. It seems almost everyone is failing...
good morning dear. It's been awhile. How you?

2dugged:
I asked you a question the other day, seems you were short of words to reply, the way you shout Jonathan upandan one would think he is the only president that has ever ruled this country since 1960, yes Jonathan was a failure because only a failed man will turn his back on his people and surround himself with hausas (who will not blink to support a fellow who hits his head on the ground like them)because he wanted a second term, but that gives you no right to exonerate every other president that has wrecked this country since independence, and buhari that made promises to Nigerians like a man ontop of a woman promising to give her the moon isn't any better considering that he has ruled this country before and even contested four times like it was his birth right to rule a second time, only to be given the mantle and he becomes clueless

Why not try to be objective for once and view things from the vantage point of the common man with no political sentiment attached, you will see better

Spot on.
Parochialism is now a part of our national life.
The youths who are suppose to be objective in their views are the ones doing more damage.
An average Nigerian now supports politicians because they love the wealth they have, or they love their physical characteristics.

Mr. President and his foot soldiers have made it seem as if Nigeria became an independent country in 1999, in a bid to exonerate those who mismanaged the country before 1999.
Nigeria has never been well since 1960 as the records show....

Nice couple

Zedoo:
You don't know what it means to watch your friends get killed . Or go for missions and not return... Then one idiot is busy flying up and down chilling in hotel while you are in the bush.... 5 good days without water....boko haram probably skirting around to ambush you....
Look you people should just keep quiet if you have nothing reasonable to contribute.. Other countries don't treat their soldiers in such manner ONLY in Africa... Those other countries their soldiers will willingly die... Here you go reason am.... One pot bellied idiot....who just has to get you water....which you might drink and get hit by the enemy bullet at the end of the whole thing is busy giving excuses for 5 days .. Dude.... Its like expecting Lionel messi to score every freekick because he has been training.... Real match Na another thing.... War front no be training.... Memories of lost colleagues, anger at enemies, anger at authorities whose mismanagement of intelligence has led to prolonged war and ambushes.... Bros you people should just skip threads like this or just read only.... So because persn Na Jesus Christ you go now rub am poo for face because E SUPPOSE to dey calm at all times.... Bro you are wrong

I must say you are very temperamental to have said I should keep quiet, or that I sounded unreasonable. I wonder why you were unable to read and fully comprehend the very little comment I made.
For the records, I was only reacting to the immediate cause of the mutiny, that food was delayed for 24hrs. Whether the troops are not well catered for is a discussion for another day. After all, I concluded my comment by saying the commanders have a long history of abuse of power so the mutiny is expected.

About whether I know how it feels to loss loved ones, I really don't know why you had to ask this....
Good evening

stexsy:
How will this stop peace mass from killing Innocent Nigerians on the road?

Bro, I don't think your comment is appropriate. You are denigrating the brand...
Your comment can influence travellers choice in the negative.
It is better you advise the company through their public relations department to call their drivers to order or to be more careful on the road

No sin is unforgivable.
It is forgiveness of all sins that makes God different from humans. While humans would want to hold onto some, God holds onto none.
Just my opinion

nextprince:
So after taking the food items he took to them, they wanted to attack him because he had not brought it the previous day and is not as if they were aware of the reason for the delay.
This country is not yet matured for this democracy at all cos soldiers had gone through worse situations and no cases of mutiny.
Some of these military personnel are just civilians in military outfits.
I understand those their back packs and other pouches can carry some food items that will sustain them for some days.

If a military man cannot harness little opportunities, and doesn't have endurance and discipline to the extent of attacking a GOC because food was not supplied for one day for a reason they don't know, I wonder where exactly lies the difference between them and my fellow civilians who may soon start demanding for my head.

spot on.
Our men on uniform is gradually becoming a synonym for disgrace. Soldiers are suppose to be highly disciplined. But of course, the commanders have a long history with abuse of power so mutiny is expected

mazimee:
I don't know why Atheists find fun in picking on Christians more than they pick on their Muslims counter part for some obvious reasons we are all aware of. They don't believe in God fine, but they just won't stop going offensive on Christians with everything in their possession.

You all know that, he won't try this with Islam still have his head hanging on his neck.
Respect people and their believes no matter how stupid it sounds to you.

My brother, like you rightly said, he cannot try this with our brothers at the other side of the divide. It is either he is in the hospital or in some ice cooling off already. I don't blame them sometimes though, the world is just filled with crazy people always waiting for the opportunity to show their insanity.
People should learn to respect each other, at the same time tolerate one another since crazy folks are everywhere.

Both parties should take it easy o...
This is not the best time to die o

BTW, when will government and these schools begin to do things differently?
Our schools are fast becoming gladiator arenas.
God help us

This good for nothing governor and nonsense projects.
What's this one that he is doing now?
Bayelsans are hungry, he is busy dedicating a project that'll not benefit anybody other than himself

jpphilips:
You should be talking about higher variants of the AK, not suggesting a different platform altogether, especially one that is subjected
to restrictions, it is one thing to suggest what you think, it is another to read and study widely to know how feasible the opinion is or better still, just ask the right questions. the only problem I have is that I have lived long enough to understand how the world works, I don't know about you.

First, my comment was not a suggestion but an answer to a question raised by a nairalander.
For clarity, here is the question I quoted "which riffle is better than the AK?"
Perhaps you were too excited so could not read the comments from the beginning.

I am not a weapons expert but I sure understand how the world works especially the dynamics of international politics and how it affects nation-states.

Lastly, about whether I have lived long enough to understand how the world works, I think I do.
Good afternoon

2dugged:
not in his favor as how?, is basic economics and making favorable policies now rocket science?, anyway I nor fit talk

People forget that leadership is not restricted to preparing budget, making appointments, attending conferences etc.
True leadership lies in the ability of one to navigate through difficult conditions, creating a path in the desert for others to follow, manipulating the scarce resources in order to put a smile on the faces of people. That is what great leaders do.

To even think that governance will be simple after campaigning to fix the mess, portrays president Buhari as unserious and bereft of ideas.
Leaders are always elected to make things better no matter how bad or good the conditions are.
President Buhari and his minions should stop whining like a man beating a child and at same time crying, when the child should be the one crying.

Femsmart:
RIP

One certain thing is that we will all die. The question is how, where, when?

A million dollar question.
Death, the price all must pay for living...

Rip to miss Dolapo

It's a bit difficult to ascertain if they are the same because of the make up...

BTW, why are Nigerian men quick to unclad ladies like this? What about her co-travellers?
This is moral corruption

It is time well meaning Nigerians be armed. Atleast it will give some sense to these good for nothing individuals who feel they own the world.