₦airaland Forum

EUROBOMBER:
I want to start by saying that I am not in support of Biafra or any attempts to break Nigeria but decided to do this write up because of some comments I read on nairaland lately. I am not in support of war and bloodshed; I am a man of peace and justice.

Nigeria will not survive a second war. Any other full blown war would lead to the complete disintegration of Nigeria and here are my reasons:

The Igbos lost the Biafran war because we had to take on the rest of Nigeria largely alone, the North and SW fought against us supported by parts of the SS. The Nigerian military was heavily armed by the Soviet Union and Great Britain and had a limitless supply of weapons. We had no access to the sea and our people were starved to death which swelled our casualty figures.

Unlike in 1967, the SS will not give Nigeria the kind of support it did during the Biafran war. A lot of SS people are not happy with Nigeria and many are already calling for a referendum, some are even calling for outright war with Nigeria so that they can break away. The SS have realised their errors in frustrating the Biafran agenda and would do all they can to help ensure the collapse of Nigeria should another war break out. They might not join the Igbos, but they would give all their support to end this union first so that they might be on their own instead continuing to bear the dead weight of the Fulani from the North.

The people of the MB will not join the core north this time to fight against the Igbos. These people are being systematically wiped out by the invading fulanis who are planning to annex their lands for cattle grazing. I have personally interacted with a lot of MB people and they are full of regrets about their role in the civil war. In the event of another war, the MB will rise up against their killers from the far north. If the Fulanis continue to kill the MB people at the current rate, then it is a matter of when not how they would eventually wipe out the MB people and take their lands.

The Yoruba would not want to be involved in any fight against the Igbos again especially if the Eastern army makes no advance towards the west like what happened during the last civil war in the march to librate Lagos from northern occupier army which had occupied the west. I am not a Yoruba man but I doubt very much that the Yoruba would willingly just jump into battle to assist the core north. The Yoruba would do all they can to try and stay out of any fighting and would prefer to be on the fence. They might however be forced into the war from either flank.
The Nigerian military is currently tied down in a frustrating battle against boko haram in the NE. Boko haram has international dimensions to it and might not end any time soon. There are foreign powers that want Nigeria to split and these powers would ensure that with a full scale war, Nigeria breaks into different parts. The Nigerian military will not be able to fight on two or three major fronts because even the military itself will crumble considering the fact that our soldiers are drawn from the various tribes. The Fulani soldiers would be isolated; the Igbo and SS soldiers would withdraw to defend the East, Yoruba soldiers would withdraw to defend the West and the MB soldiers would use the opportunity to vent against their killers.

At the end of the day, there might not be much fighting before the centre crumbles and Nigeria breaks to parts. The Igbos lost in the 1967-1970 civil war but a repeat war would yield a completely different result and that result would be the end of Nigeria.

This is a message for all those writing rubbish on nairaland, running their mouths and boasting that we would be defeated in another war. I thought I should open this thread to set the records straight for those that cannot see the writings on the wall and not to create an avenue for tribal fighting.

So far the West is not attacked the Igbo's will definitely have their way as the Yoruba's will sit on the fence but this can only change if they are attacked and whoever gets their support wins.

IlekeHD:
This is what I've been saying.

The terrorism will stay in the SS/SE like boko haram in the North and if they descend past the East, they will 've treated like terrorist.

It benefits no one.

I sincerely hope OPC negates from doing it because Lagos is boiling and Yorubas are VERY collective.

I promise you, Kanu won't be in the SE when shoit happens.

I appreciate your comment as the hatred being preached and accepted by most Igbo's will quickly backfire if any harm is done to Kumuyi of deeper blife because Yoruba's are very united when it comes to threats against Yoruba's; Yoruba's do not fight each other based on religion as you will see Christians, Muslims and even traditionalists being from the same family. I believe that you have more Igbo's in Yoruba land more than any other regions outside the east in Nigeria while we have few Yoruba's living or doing business in the east; so if the Igbo's wants a show down with the Yoruba's who is a larger tribe than the igbo tribe they should be prepared for hundreds of thousands of casualties which the North may also take advantage of doing same to Igbo's staying or doing business in the North. Not to forget the issue of bomb making, every tribe have that knowhow which even boko haram have shown they are capable of; Igbo's should see reality as I will ask, do they not know that boko haram and eg Isis will simply move east so as to kill as many as possible immediately this war the east wants start? Igbo's better be wise before those calling indirectly or directly for war and several innocent ones get killed in large numbers. I pray that it doesn't come to that.

Xpaz:
Your ignorance is legendary.
if you have brain what you would have asked is have we started producing food in large scare before the war?
but your ignorance and hatred wouldn't allow you to be reasonable.
Secondly. .you depend on Hear-say and propaganda that east is Eroded. .
i pity you. .that was how they brain washed you that east is still a bush and village and eroded and that dat was why the easterner leave there region to invest outside.
but we finally found out which region is still bush and village with mould houses and rusty red roofs.
keep fooling yourself. don't leave your village and travel out to see things for yourself.

just go through this trash that you posted! Don't you know that the east will be the most hit region (Biafra) if Nigeria breaks up? It would have been the South south but they can manage if they all stick together and export their oil which is difficult due to fluctuation in oil prices and do note that their development would be like a snail traveling from Nigeria to China by land and what will happen to them and the east after 15 to 20 years of being separate countries? They simply look like south Korea while the west looks like Dubai and the north like Algeria. Think first before you make a wrong move as once you've out you can come back and your hatred will definitely deny you trade with the South West and the North due to them both trading with one another and also with other countries of the world. Though you can trade with the outside world but who will buy your goods when that of China which is cheaper than any product from any other country is easily available every where.

new2020:
Typical ignorant yoruba man with no common sense...are you aware most food and produce in the North and SW come from SE? Come to SE and see the amount of farms in Ebonyi and Anambra.

You're the one with Worms for a brain! Look at what you posted as yeye comment! The east and South south being the ones taking food to the North! I believe you are the most ignorant person in the whole world from the creation of the universe till date, I have spent time in relatively every part of Nigeria and I can say that if Nigeria breaks up the Igbo's will suffer more than all the other tribes; you make most of your money from the south west which is then followed by the north, you best bet is trade as you mostly sell homogenous/ same items but who will buy in your Biafra when almost all of you sell the same thing to each other? The North is into mechanized farming while you are not! You have very little oil while the south south have about 65%, south west 30% and south east 5%, how will you cope? Importation or invading the south south? What about access to the sea? The South West and the south south have large access to the sea through which they can trade in large quantities but you are almost totally land locked, you will fight not less that 2 civil wars amongst yourselves and border wars with every country that have borders with you; hereby making you loss tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of men and also losing lots of territories to the North and the west but gaining from the South south as they may not be able to hold their own against Biafra as the North/West would not have anything to do with them since they are filled with hatred for the north and the west just like the east, please note that Cameroon will also seize your lands and harass your country time after time as you will be left alone to defend yourself that is if you have a border with Cameroon. The truth is hard to swallow but its good to analyze things not always letting ethnic sentiments becloud some people.

Guyman02:
The writer above me is an hediot, who thinks that life is all about eating without knowing that a single policy change from that House can change his bank account. Igbos no longer think that way. e.g a simple law from that house banning the importation of stockfish or secondhand spareparts will put a lot of families in the SE in problem just to educate you. ''Ha si kanyi hasaa, anyi ahasaa''

It was Tinubus APC (ACN part) plan ab initio to exclude the South East from all positions at the National Assembly until God intervened and created confusion in their midst on the day of the elections which led to the emergence of Ekweremadu as Deputy SP whom they are asking to resign (e no go happen); now they have started again without considering the South East Zone for any leadership position at the House while giving the South South the least position in the hierarchy, it will not work. All positions must be zoned in line with Federal Character.

lies upon lies! Tinubu's plan was that if Ngige won he will work with others so that he become the senate President but saraki have been struggling to get that position which was reserved for the south east even before the presidential election but the south east due to ethnic sentiments didn't vite for Ngige and Buhari, they further played a fast one by siding with saraki so that ekweramadu as deputy senate President and a such they played themselves out; I just don't understand why some people always keep blaming others for their mistakes.

The South East were considered before saraki connived with Hus PDP friends who are mostly from the South East thinking they are playing politricks, as things are unfolding we will all see politricks; if the east had played fair leaving out ethnic sentiments no one would have been able to deny them the senate President as Ngige would have been nominated through free and fair election. Let us note that no senator from the east have come out to say anything against how saraki was chosen and they still want a major position! If they lose out on the major ones they shouldn't loose out of others. Rocha's time will come to become president if the Igbo's can leave aside sentiment and work with the Yoruba's and the north, it may not be in the next 12 years but it will come due to the fact that Ngige and Rochas are the only Igbo's widely accepted outside the south east and south south and that is where the major populations are.

He will soon concede to given lawan and his caucus what they asked for. Let watch as the show unfold as he is given PDP something so that when the main positions go to APC they won't make noise.

Lushcream:
Senate President is more powerful than Vice President and Chief Justice of Nigeria ......

There is nothing like Juicy committees ...... Buhari need capable hands and Bukola is the capable hand ...... Bukola is Godfatherless because he is a Godfather himself ..... Bukola only build alliances with the Atikus camp as well as the PDP camp it is not as if He will be taking instruction from them or anybody.

Tinubu lost out magnificently..... No be today the Saraki's don dey floor Tinubu .....

Tinubu sent Lai Mohammed to become Governor of Kwara state ........ Bukola finished him ... Lai ran back to Lagos.

Tinubu sent Belgore to become Governor of Kwara state ....... Bukola Finished him .... Belgore ran to PDP and Bukola finished Belgore right from primary election of PDP.

Tinubu deplored Lawan/Akume for Senate President ........ Bukola finished him...........


Tinubu vs Bukola ain't today ....... Tinubu should chill and learn.

That a big lie! Has the vice President is by far more powerful than the senate President and the only office more powerful than that of the vice President is that of his only boss; the President. Please get your facts right. Who stand in to run the affairs of the country for the President when he us outside the country? The Vice President. As for your comment about Tinubu, saraki and his supporters are learners, this is why he is traveling all over the place to beg people so that they can mediate; saraki, Altiku, tambuwa etc thought they are capable of taken Tinubu out but look at where they are right now, tambuwa, Altiku etc have been silenced and saraki is running over the place for intervention so as for him not to be taken to the cleaners by Tinubu. Tinubu is not making noise as he is the master strategist of APC, he brought several parties together to form APC and he worked tirelessly to make sure the masses get the right man who can make things work again in Nigeria. This man Tinubu didn't via for any political position but worked to make sure those that will better the lives if all Nigerians get into office via election and his party presented lawan etc to him which he initially rejected but after various meetings he saw in lawan a man that is not self centered and a man who will work to make sure all the regions in Nigeria have a feel of true federal development but alas! Saraki who had his region at heart first before any other hijacked the senate through tricks.And please stop lying about lai and others as I can see sentiment rather than facts in your comments.

mohammedabiodun:
www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/apc-senators-in-physical-combat-over-sharing-of-principal-offices/

Yeye dey smell, after saraki did things to divide them he is now trying to claim saint! Abeg let them take him to the cleaners.

9jatatafo:
Blame state governors such as Rauf Aregbesola of Osun state. Governors always share the money with FG and I am shell shocked that some state governors can't pay salary. Very pathetic. I don't believe PMB and APC met empty treasury, as it is always a slogan by any new government both at the central or states, it is just a calculated attempt to lay down conduit pipes for looting, period.

if they shared the money with Jonathan how come they are still asking the federal government to pay them for the money they used on the federal projects in their state! Abeg! Jonathan and all those that worked with him should be investigated so that the truth can be revealed.

Anikulhapo:
$30Bn For Where? Yet Jonah Couldn't Pay Salaries Before He Left Office, The Idiotic Man That Said All These Is Foolish To D Core.

True talk, Jonathan can't even pay the militants and militia groups employed to guard the pipelines and some people are saying their is 2billion! Oh sorry 30billion dollars in the treasury! Jonathan couldn't pay Oil marketers, neither could he refund all the state the money they used on federal projects in their states and some people can still come out saying and posting crap as comments! That Jonathan man should be investigated as he is definitely one of those who looted Nigerian's Treasury with Jonathan. Tumb up bro, I like your comments which ain't like some people who have allowed ethnic sentiments to cloud their sense of reasoning.

9ice one.

vimi:
Why not use same drones for boko haram where we have faceless terrorist

A surveillance drone iis estimated at $10,000 Multiplied by 500 iis just too much for our fragile economy when there are other alternatives

Nigerian Air Force also manufacturer drones but not in large numbers and you can get small drone with cameras which are good and don't cost more than
2,000USD.

Feranmicharles:
Only the yorubas and the igbos


And who saysthat the hausa's are nigerians

Proudly omo oduduwa
Igbo kwenu

you're wicked

CR77:
Old pa Buhari this is not our problem for now

Pls focus on how to make 1$ equal to 1naira


OMG Boko Haram free access into south east and south south

you're wicked! You want all the militants to run into Cameroon after 5 or 6 military engagements with boko haram?

All over the world we hear of Yoruba's and Igbo's doing great but back here in Nigeria we keep going after each others jugular. I believe we all need each other to advance our ethnic group and Nigeria as a whole.

M4gunners:
Mr Badeh how i wish you will follow them to the region and not only sending innocent nigeria army i would've been happy. That is all i can say for now.

I will appreciate if all chest beaters will carry arms to fight against the Nigerian military when actual conflict start, some people just feel like funny names and dropping comments is what wins military engagement, I will appreciate if the militants can put their threats into action and let all come back and comment about the clashes after 6 months; I hope some people won't shout genocide then.

Truckpusher:
Badeh should shut the hell up and deal with Boko Haram first before making silly noise.

I'm sure he understood clearly what it means for a nation to have two insurgent groups in two strategic parts of the country.

the military is more capable of taking out the militants from the Niger Delta faster than boko haram because boko haram are getting supports/men/weapons etc from north African countries and some west African countries but where will the Niger Delta militants get theirs? Can Niger Delta militants take a casualty of over 3,000 militants and still continue to fight? Boko Haram have been killed in thousands but they still keep getting recruits from other Islamic countries and free weapons likewise saboteurs in the military that's why they keep fighting; but can the Niger deltans and massob take this huge losses?

Rexnegro:
Can't u read or what ? Badeh said South boys breach their agreement ...sometimes u gat take sometin by force if u can . Whatever happened to them is caused by them. Its was obvious they were chilling out because its clueless gej that was there...make they carry arms , this time around pmB dey there , he got master degree from war college so he will no how to curb those biased bastard(militants) from that region.

PMB is a war veteran as he fought during the civil war, fought against Chadians when they invaded part of Northern Nigeria and he also fought against a deadly islamists group maitasene( I hope it's spelt right ), PMB is a rtd General and his experience and that of a revived military may be brought to bear on the militants.

SUBMARINE:
We need anti aircraft/ ship weapons to silence Badeh ooooo

The military is getting more advanced weapons and they ain't using most of the ones in their inventory not to talk of the new ones because these weapons were manufactured to kill on a large scale that's why they can't be used on Boko Haram but in war they can be used, as per Niger Delta wanting to square up against the military, they will be killed in large numbers as they won't pity them like the previous engagements as boko haram have made many of them loose human feeling. Please note that boko haram have been killed in thousands sometimes over 300 hundred in a day but these are kept secret due to the issue it may generate, up to 30 experienced foreign fighters were killed in one day by the Nigeria military in one encounter alone but we only got to know and see pictures from soldiers who took part from the battle; is this what the Niger Delta wants? They should know that we have a lot of northerners in the military who will be happy to come over to the Niger Delta to fight due to what is happening in the north. We better be wise. I am also a Niger Delta but I believe in one Nigeria. Person wey never see the real horror of war na him dey pray make war happen.

In PDP's words, we have recovered from election losses and will take over in 2019; I believe in their dreams.

tensazangetsu:
lol how many igbo men have you met that are married to yoruba women or fulani women the few that do that are fools and don't know their history. The British never left nigeria they still control this country with neocolonialism and lastly in an igbo republic merit will reign over everything else no one cares if you are from asaba or aba.

Get a life! If you people can't see reasons why all your ethnic sentiments is your greatest undoing then carry on.

Biafra1000:
Rubbish post from a paid igbo man


I am BIAFRA,

pick up a gun and start a war if you are that brave. SMH!

dinachi:
I feel a deep sense of grief and bewilderment when I read a lot of misguided comments from my Igbo brothers with some calling for a violent secession from Nigeria. Most of the generation of people making these statement never witnessed the civil war. They did not see first hand the horrors of war. They did not experience the terrific impact of bombs or the loud ear splitting sounds of heavy artillery shells as the explode. Should I talk about the economic impact? How our people were reduced to paupers and had to start from the scratch. How beautiful daughters were forcefully torn from the warm embrace of their families and married off to leprous men in the North just to spite our people. Only a mentally deranged and prone to self destruction individual will ever in his life support a violent secession from Nigeria.

Our problem is not secession. Our problem is learning how to live with other tribes in harmony while doing our businesses. Our focus should be on how to build consensus across the nation for vital political interests.

I laugh heartliy when I see some misguided Niger Delta youths like barcanista and co trying to be clever by half by playing to our sense of entitlement. Speaking from both sides of the mouth about how our people are being pushed aside and marginalized.
Yet these are the same people that effectively sabotaged the Biafran struggle under Ojukwu. These are the same people that lead the enemy in through our backyards and betrayed their so called brothers. Now they have started a new song because their brother Jonathan who performed woefully was booted out by majority of Nigerians.

I want us to know sometime that is historical. The moment an attempt is made to secede, the I jaws will immediately turn their backs and negotiate us away to advance their interests. So we will end up alone fighting the whole of Nigeria and loosing again.

When the chips are down, we are always alone.

Another point to consider is that Nigeria has become too intergrated to break up. Almost every family has in laws across their tribe. How will that be handled?

Igbo are the most integrated people in Nigeria with business interests across the six geopolitical zones of Nigeria. Most of our people will become jobless or stay and be killed the moment a secession is declared.

Those who knew the truth will tell you that even inside Biafra there were still serious cases of tribalism and nepotism, even under the revered Ojukwu. That was why ahiara declaration became necessary to tackle these issues.

Finally, we are not ready militarily and would only be engaging in another massive waste of life if we insist on our ways.
So my people do not be deceived! Our best and only bet is to remain as law abiding citizens of Nigeria while doing our best to continue to be relevant in the scheme of things.
Ka Chineke mezie okwu.

Lovely write up, but some people will still let ethnic sentiments take a hold of them; the Igbo's should build a consensus with other ethnic groups because we all need each other to advance our ethnic groups. Let take western countries for example. They have put in place immigration policies that allow people from diverse countries to be residents because they know the benefit; Germany was divided but they came back together after the Berlin Wall came down and now Germany is the richest country in Europe. Ethiopia,Sudan,Yugoslavia, India etc broke up but look at them today in comparison to Germany that came together not to talk about China,United state, UK, France etc that have stayed together. The Igbo's can't win another civil war even with the support of the Ijaws and other south south ethnic groups but they can have their way if the Yoruba's join them but the Yoruba's ain't ready to leave Nigeria. Check out which support each ethnic groups will receive from outside Nigeria excluding the world powers; the Hausa's will get support from chad, Niger,mali and from the Islamic world, Yoruba's will receive support from Benin,Togo, ghana,ivory coast, Cuba, Brazil, the Caribbeans, the Igbo's will receive from maybe Cameroon. So do the maths, everyone will receive help from countries that have sizeable population of people speaking the dialect that their tribe speak or ethnic groups that are closely related to them. It better that we work together as one and heal our wounds; look at how Yoruba's and Igbo's are doing well and being recognized all over the world but we fail to understand that these two ethnic groups are God's divine gift to Africa and the black race. Its better we understand this now.

Toke wore it better.

Wike is just too desperate, he is trying to get something to justify why he won't bring about any meaniful development to Rivers state; Wike that can't account for over 80billion naira during his tenure as minister of education! To me he, I support his probing that's if it ain't personal van data but his tenure as minister must also be probed.

afuye:
During today's Deliverance service, the pastor touched every member of the congregation who fell down except me. I left out of place like I am possesd. This is not the 10th time it is happening to me. Even when I was in school, the student pastor would touch us all and only a few of us wouldn't fall.

The whole thing looks like a plan sort of. Maybe some people fall down intentionally? What could be happening? Is it that I'm possesd of what? Maybe I wasn't in spirit, I guess?


I need your help, friends. Only serious answers will be appreciated.

it depends on your faith, intentions, how Godly the pastor is and God.

ketekete:
https://ketekete.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/President-Buhari-and-his-son-Yusuf.jpg

lie! This ain't Buhari now!

dre11:
http://www.punchng.com/news/queen-of-england-honours-four-nigerians/

Yoruba's and Igbo's being honored by a foreign monarch but instead of both tribes who are God's divine gift to Africa and the black race to work together, we rather prefer to take ourselves to the cleaners at every opportunity; May God help us.

ebosie11:
I think Nigerian army is getting better in terms of skills and equipment.

Checkout photo of Nigerian Air Force Mi-24 and its pilot

Source: http://godwin12..com/2015/06/photo-of-nigerian-air-force-mi-24-and.html

The rocket pods is not fixed as its not on a mission.

To get to Buhari and Tinubu you have to go through very few people and one of the very few is Obasanjo.