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EnlightenedSoul: Already answered in above (previous post).

Answered where?

So before when we were talking about women, you were moronically screaming it is raape and losing your skirt.

When the case is reversed you turned to "if the man is raaped"?

You are no more certain it was raape? Your language is now "if"?

Sitting on the fence?

Bloody moronic ediot, you think I don't know your type?

EnlightenedSoul: Again, where did I say someone who was ra.ped should pay?? My words are clear. If you find such incredulous meanings in my simply formed sentences, there is not I can say

You are a cretinous person!

Lets give you another chance and lets see if you would not be shifting deviously about as I stated from the start when I gave the example?

Should a man that was "raaped" as I described by a Baller have to pay for the child?

If not, who should?



Now, lets see you dance around the question and try some moronic ambiguity as usual!

EnlightenedSoul: And when have I said this? I have stated quite clearly that one should find consent PRIOR to drunkenness regardless of gender, and I've said it half a million times by now.

Again, NOT while the person is drunk (DUH!!!). I've stated my opinion on the person being responsible, but that their irresponsibility does not excuse your own accountability for your crime in the event of ra.pe. My goodness, how dense are you really??

Why does he have to find consent prior to drunkeness?

At what point is the point we can determine if someone is drunk?

How would that be ascertained in practical terms?

Do you think a woman should be charged for raape if she does not get consent from a drunk guy before they sleep together?

EnlightenedSoul: Yh, I "divert", I "dodge", I "shift" and yet you refuse to point out the so-called indiscrepancies.

Without opening yet link, and based on what I've gathered throughout this discussion, I reckon the probability of your belonging to all four categories very high.

Answer the gaddam questions and stop dodging.

Soon you would be saying "if" or you would say "well, the law does not matter, it is what happens that matters" like when I gave you the pregnancy scenario.

You are too stewpid, bias and selfish to see the discrepancies in your moronic arguments.

Typical woman!

Sixix: Well, I stated the main reason that could have prompted it the bill which is the issue of consent in rape cases., all my other statements were based on legal premises. I never assumed you were misogynist I believed you were right and I understood where you were coming from, my issue was with your non-acceptance of the law, the law is the law, you are bound by it till it is amended.



Tis settled

I knew all the above apart from the highlighted from the start. That is why I never felt your were a raving feminist.

I am very good at reading people's post and deciphering the ratiocination behind it.

The problem with you was that I noticed you unfollowed me after this thread started. So I figured you were pissed off I did not agree with the moronic law.

It is a daft and stewpid law that shows why I have a deep hate for fcktards. They help destroy society and they are the majority so we can't avoid them being in position of power in a democracy.

I am a strong advocate of geniocracy. I HATE fcktards!

EnlightenedSoul: That's because I didn't know what a "Baller Alert" was, and ended up skimming through half a dozen different stories on the website and noticed a common theme (neither of which were ra.pe). Still, as always, I've maintained that in the event it (ra.pe) happens, it should be reported by both man or woman.

You are a cretinous person!

So it is now "let them report"?

You are no more screaming "it is raape"?

EnlightenedSoul: As I've been saying all along! It's the same I've said said on women, so what are you getting at?

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If it is ra.pe, it is ra.pe either way. See above points. Can you say TEDiOUS?

Your comprehension skills leave something to be desired. Where did I say a Baller should pay 18 years for being ra.ped?

You are a cretinous person!

When you stated that the society should not pay for the result of his raape, who were you arguing should pay for the child then?

EnlightenedSoul: Neither did I ever say that women should not be responsible. In fact, I've made it a point to outline and write disclosures on my opinion regarding that. You'll find those not only within the link you provided, but on this very thread.

My one additive was that despite that, an individuals lack of responsibility does not excuse your own accountability for your involvement in a crime. That stands on both ends of the spectrum as far as I'm concerned.

You are a cretinous person!

What responsibility are you giving the woman when your argument is to say a man should be responsible to find out if she is interested when she is drunk?

Is it not her responsibility not to be drunk to the point no one can tell if she was interested or not?

EnlightenedSoul: ....I can see your lack of logic, and ill comprehension skills all too clearly.


Typical id.iot!

You are a cretinous person!

When your moronic stance is challenged by reversing the sexes, that is when you start dodging, turn to some stewpid "it is just what happens" and "sitting on the fence" responses, instead of the robust positional stance you were giving with aplomb to favour women before.

You are one of the ediots I described in the fourth category here:

https://www.nairaland.com/942597/why-women-own-worst-enemies/13#13209893

Sixix: My stand on the 'Yes law or transgender' issues was neither of a chauvinist nor a feminist, I wrote based on my own opinion of why and how the law would be interpreted. I do not consider myself as a feminist, the only agreement I have with the feminist theory is the provision of equal opportunities for both sexes and I try as much as possible to be objective on gender issues. And even If I were to consider myself a feminist, it will take the prefix of 'Yoruba' as in Yoruba Feminist.

To be frank, you have not been.

You only asked questions, not state an opinion.

But I think your initial psychological position was that I was being misogynistic by not being a raving moronic supporter of this stewpid law.

I only mention you to read the arguments, not because I think you are some raving feminist.

Zekkmixes was the typical woman before, but clues are showing she has seen the other arguments and know she was wrong. So mentioning her was just for more information as well.

It is only the third one that is a raving feminist lunatic that thinks it is women's right to have an advantage, privilege and no responsibilities.

carefreewannabe:

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You think I am joking?

You will be so surprised to see me at your door.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GClPSL86ZE

carefreewannabe: [img]http://1.bp..com/-BcthZGRZzfc/UY0ocCNdsVI/AAAAAAAAAys/-PIF_RYI8-U/s400/tumblr_mkwxcil2uh1qbh0eio1_250.gif[/img]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tapntDkF-0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsGxbsQv5kc

carefreewannabe: Saga ....

https://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/you-ready.gif

Am I ready?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDBodUJIQH8

pendusky:
Your Grandpa Just gat himself a Fan!

Jarus:

Sire, pls Do u You employ www.nairaland.com/Sagamite to write for ur blog... Is He a person (Whatever) He's been using on people? coz He has lost his reputation here to me!

You are a cretinous person!

Since when did a person like you's regard start mattering?

Shut the fck up and do as you are told by intelligent people!

That is the only way you can be of any good use in this world.

You are too stewpid to be entitled to an opinion!

carefreewannabe: I am also curious, Mr Sagamite, very curious.

https://media.tumblr.com/0dbb40690e320dd26b86196f36cc6059/tumblr_inline_mhg0dlcCip1qz4rgp.gif

Yes, I do!

Who?

Of course it is .................................YOU!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU-WUbaqPW4

EnlightenedSoul: I think my points have been fairly simple, never have I once "shifted" my position. Please feel free to point out any perceived inconsistencies.

If the man was ra.ped, he should carry it out to court. As for child support, US Gov. is only saving it's hypothetical asss (and that of taxpayers at large) to ensure that it does not end up paying for every "ill-conceived" child that some incredibly stu.pid people practically deliver into the system on the daily. Birth Control is free at the State dept, condoms are dirt cheap. There's just no excuse on both parts! So in your opinion, who should pay for the child if not his/her parents? Society?? No thanks, the rest of us responsible taxpayers can rest easy knowing the child is at least financially taken care of by those accountable thereby allowing us to gear the $$$ elsewhere.

The men/women who feel they pay too much child support should throw a pity party with the men/women who feel they receive too little as a custodial parent. They can all have a good whine and cry fest about how so very UNFAIR it all is - Boohoohoo!

OHHHHH, EnlightenedSoul, now you are not passionate enough to unambigiously declare it is raape?

It is now "If the man was ra.ped, he should carry it out to court"?

But if it is a woman, then you will scream raape?

So you think a poor, helpless victim of raape that was specifically targeted because of the exorbitant finance he can provide and, which the government would force him to provide for a child, should be forced to pay for 18 years for his raape? And the criminal be rewarded?

Now you think a MAN should be responsible and society should not be responsible when mishap befalls him?

All of a sudden you are good at seeing adults being responsible for their actions that might lead to them being "raaped"?

But you lost your head and your skirt when I said women should be responsible and, if they have not, should take responsibility for their own irresponsibility, and they should not pass responsibility to us (the society)?

https://www.nairaland.com/1884918/yes-means-yes-new-sex/11#26033999

Can you see your lack of logic now?

Typical woman!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wse_hgca220

HFOG: Hello sir. So sorry to interrupt you. Pls no swearing or insults here, just love and truth. Do you have a lady in your life sir?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg58oXFgWRY

Recently, after I did this:

https://www.nairaland.com/141689/rough-guide-best-most-reputable/9#19380589

Another major donation has been received by Imperial College London.

A former graduate donated £40m for a Biomedical Engineering centre.

http://www3.imperial.ac.uk/newsandeventspggrp/imperialcollege/newssummary/news_26-5-2014-23-8-58

chiefinalowo: You might have forgotten that your foolish hero (ojuku) is still burning in hell.

You are a cretinous person!

You are a dumb product of a failed education system.

Our corrupt politicians have destroyed you life before it even started!

What makes him my hero?

You would soon here the person say he is setting up a committee to determine if it was corruption.

Corruption is not stealing tinz.

chiefinalowo: The same way ojuku is rotting in the hottest part of hell now.

You are a cretinous person!

Why are you telling me that?

Onyiridike: I am a Nigerian lady with a lot of experience about life especially when it comes to relationship and marriage. Experience is NOT just passing through a situation but what you did with the situation.

Obviously, our young ladies always list ridiculous criteria that a man they will date/marry MUST possess. Among those ridiculous criteria, height is always a priority. Gone are the days when character is placed above physical appearance.

When I was an undergraduate, a certain young man approached me and told me how he loved me and wanted to date me. He is an enterprising young man, very intelligent and handsome. However, he is not very tall; just 5ft. 7 inches in height. Of course, young ladies don't take decisions independently. This is why they are easily influenced by friends and relatives. My friends then said: "Never! My man MUST be 6ft and above, so tell him capital NO". I rejected the young man.

Today, he is happily married with a lady who is by far more beautiful and talented than me. I almost shed tears on their wedding day. Meanwhile, all the so-called very tall men that I dated are ONLY interested in my vagina.
So far I have learnt the following:

1. Most tall men believe that their height is a 'master' key to every ladies heart and therefore, their ONLY achievement is ' I am a tall dude and ladies are dieing for me'.

2. Most tall guys are NOT caring because they have this notion that a lady should count herself lucky to date them.

3. I am yet to understand that unique or remarkable thing about tall men.

Fortunately, I repented because it occured to me that all those times, I was ONLY playing my friend's script. I wanted to feel among and brag that my boyfriend is equally tall. I gave a guy who is not very tall a chance and I started enjoying my paradise on earth. We are married now. All my life, I have not come across such a wonderful person. He has it all:

1. He is God-fearing and generous.

2. He is handsome and a great orator

3. He is educated and intelligent

4. He cooks for me when I am tired (caring)

5. He satisfies me sexually ( oh! What a heavenly feeling)

6. He got a good dress sense

7. He is social

8. Among others

I am not in any way trying to say that tall guys are bad. As a lady, I am only advising other Nigerian ladies to see a man beyond height. The height issue is over-hyped and even unnecessary. You may NOT get a second chance like me.

Finally, based on my experience, I have come up with a quote:

"A man is NOT known by his height but by his heart (bravery) and meritorous achievements".

I pity your husband.

He is a living compromise you made to satisfy your selfish need and fear of missing out.

In my opinion, you do not love him, you love the way he loves you.

God forbid that is my portion in life.

I would send a girl like you back to the people you really want.

All you young boys, note: there is no benefit in marrying any women

- Who was not attracted to you initially or at the first few interactions

- Who would die for a different kind of guy from you if they gave her the chance

- Who is only after you because others will not satisfy her needs

- Who would only consider you when the aesthetics is in decline

Fck that!

The phrase "I gave him/a guy a chance" is an insult in my world. Any girlfriend/wife I hear who dares use that on me is a goner.

It subconsciously unveils a hidden psychology.

Aigbofa: Is person the only word in your vocabulary? Eranko.

It is the word suited for dumb fcktards like you that have no brain and nothing intelligent to say.

Cretinous person!

Stillfire: For once Sagamite speaks a FACT. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are a cretinous person and product of a failed education system.

It is too late to now start recognising what is fact. Blow your brains to smithereens.

BananaBender: There is a thread like this??

Sagamumu aka Sagamite, oya tell us your age

Jidegirl, answer this kweshion biko

Logicboy01 (I'm just curious )

Slimyem, 'they' are talking to you too

Freecocoa, you too. Answer sharply biko.

Puccy a*ss nigga, identify yaself.

Kandiikane, it's high time you answer this question

Shymexx/SirShymex (Never bothered to ask, now I want to know)

Old and intelligent enough to know I would rather die than be stewpid enough to be a graduate of Fisk University.

pendusky: OMG Sagamite will kill himself over these

You sure are a pure cretinous person!

What are you laughing about?

I will kill myself that your life is being lined up to be destroyed further?

person, you don't know I am British? As in, a citizen of GREAT BRITAIN?

...........GREAT?

You think I will be the one to suffer, person?

I will be the one without good hospitals while people are laundering $9.3m in a pastor's private jet?

You are a pure person!

If your mother has cancer, tell us, where will she be treated?

https://www.scarefx.com/images/coffin_project/coffin_construction_15.jpg

Odunharry: 50calibre

what d issue bw You and Sagamite?
Always yabbing each other

The person wants to have mouth but is always running from me because he knows that would be his intellectual slaughter.

I take no prisoners when they are fcktards.

iconize: Sagamite!

My question actually is; why was he allowed to die a deranged pauper?
The likes of Danjuma and Obasanjo can finance Togo's 2015 budget without dropping a sweat.

You are a cretinous person!

What is the relevance of your moronic question?

Aigbofa: Boo-hoo

You are a cretinous person!

craziebone: i have decided to stay away from this thread simply because i just do not want to get angry. @Sagamite is definitely right on this issue and on so many other issues that bother along gender lines. The only thing he does, which i dont do, at least for the mean time, and for which i do not blame him, is the insult he insults others who hold a different view.

Like someone said, we are just passing through a face; a culture of feminism. There will come a point in time that people will begin to become more fed up with feminism and at that time, we would stop being in the minority.

Don't mind them.

Let me give another scenario that you would see EnlightenedSoul shifting deviously about.

Lets say some multimillionaire sports guy in the US leaves his hotel and goes out to town to enjoy himself after a game in another city. This guy has bags of money from his $9m a year contract and he loves to spray and show this in clubs.

He buys bottles of champagne and Don Perignon in the club and gets plasteredly drunk. Then one of the project skanks that have an app on her phone that gives her a "Baller Alert", then gets with him and he takes her back to his hotel and hits it. Then she gets pregnant.

What will the US law and EnlightenedSoul/Sixix/Zekkmixes say:

1) "Oh, he was raaped and the girl needs to be arrested for taking advantage of him"

or

2) "That is his problem. He is going to pay for his actions dearly and exorbitantly for the next 18 years. Next time he would not drink so much and should wear a condom".

Guess which one they would say.

Majority of Women = illogical and selfish!

No, women should not have responsibilities. Only men should. But we are equal.

Note: A "Baller Alert" is a system where someone sends registered girls a notification of which clubs sports stars just entered in the USA. This normally leads to queues of hot girls, in their most skimpy attires, heading to that club. It is called "Baller" because the stars play American Football, Baseball or Basketball.

uchedydy: In a country wia everytyn seems to be upside down, we need to celebrate those who have done well.

Health Minister, Onyebuchi Chukwu indeed deserves commendation. In the wake of Ebola from AMERICAN-liberian Patrick Sawyer, the Health Minister swung into action. Tho it was shaky af first due to the seeming unpreparedness of everybody. He fought Ebola to a standstill, convening meetings here and there, giving directives on things, working with the Lagos state government and other states and notably providing up to date information to give public insight and calm tension. As at today we have no case of Ebola in the country. Our hearts go out to those who lost loved ones, but it would have been more but for the hard work of the health minister and his team.

I am not a politician, but I think every good work deserves commendation.

Now to the man who fought hard to fight Ebola for his country, I say well done.

Again commendation shd go to all the doctors and medical practitioners in all areas of the field, and to all Nigerians who have been using hand sanitizers to ensure they protect themselves.

Well done!!!!!!!!!!

Very well said!

I am actually surprised the shyt nation could contain it.

Kudos goes to the Health Minister. Another of the rare talents we see sometimes in Nigeria.

EnlightenedSoul: Here's what Obama said:

"Hitting a woman is not something a 'real man' does, and that's true whether or not an act of violence happens in the public eye, or, far too often, behind closed doors. Stopping domestic violence is something that's bigger than football, and all of us have a responsibility to put a stop to it."

Of all the things I could criticize Obama on (and believe me I can and do almost constantly), the above quote even wouldn't graze top 100.

But he was mum when Solange attacked?

He could not tell the world a 'real lady' does not behave like that?

EnlightenedSoul: Since when did aggravated assault - or crime of any kind - stop 'artists' from making music? Or are you actually comparing the multi-billion dollar NFL to a record label?

Side Note: I'm no career counselor but as a casual observer, I would suggest Ray Rice use this unsavory spotlight to make a snazzy career move into Rap. Chris brown's record label, like most, cherishes knockout artists provided they keep the hits coming. In no time at all and if he plays his cards right, he may just be featured in WIZ FM, where they play "nothin' but the hits, nothin' but the hits, nothin' but the muthafukin' hits" (and everywhere else hits are played).

I love it when you "feminists" try to always argue that when women do something that you will condemn a man for, it is not that bad and should not be taken equally seriously.

So what is the difference between NFL and music?

The music industry is not multi-million dollar?

When Chris Brown hit someone that was hitting him, he did not go to court?

But when Solange does it "it is not like an NFL player hitting someone"?




And you will see the person "real men" jumping up and down like poodle dogs to back such illogical arguments.

Sixix: It is more than just having true information, the disclosure is very important because transgender issue is subjective, which she obviously is aware of it and knows what is. her sexual identity was the pinnacle of their relationship therefore it mattered a lot.

*She is a legally female and as such isn't she supposed to be treated exclusively as one - discrimination

There is nothing in the law that permits transgender issues to be subjective.

As long as she has changed sex, she should be absolutely treated as a woman. Anything else is "discrimination" under the Western laws.

So she had no obligation to tell him, how can that be raape?

Sixix: No, they are too flimsy to count as rape in the court of law. The psychological effect of these scenarios would be different from what you will go through if you had slept with a trans.

The law is an ass .

Huh!

You want to under-estimate the psychological trauma I would face if the girl I picked up in the club the night earlier looks like the ones on the right, only to open my eyes the next morning with the ones on the left smiling at me saying "You were a stallion, you almost killed me. You hit that shyt like a Rock Star".

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I would be so fcking terrified that my Jamo neighbours on my council estate pad in Peckham would see her leaving my place the next morning and say in shock horror:

"SAGA!

Bladclat!

You a fi nuki that muss-muss gyal. Mi nuh fi tosh dat rasclat even fi a save Jamaica"

My rep is finished in the hood!

iconize: Sure, it's a fact!

Because your dumbness has been proven and exposed countless times by many peeps.

You are a cretinous person!

A dumb person that cannot point to anything sensible he has ever said on NL is talking?

I don't blame you, it is the moronic fcktards like Blackteetht that think moronic trolls who are only on NL to say I hate Ghana/SA/Yoruba/Igbo are geniuses.

To him, a genius is someone that has a goal and then achieves it. No matter how dumb the goal is.

Blackteeth: Mtchewww. Is that all you had to say?? You couldn't even address the point I made because you were hit.

You are a cretinous person!

You pulled such moronic shyt from your arsse and expect me to do what with it?

reedonne: Did I said it is right for our military to do it? NO.
Are they doing it : YES.
Nigeria airforce have aquired 2 MI 35M attack helicopter this month alone but there is no official news on it, Nobody would have learnt how they spent that money if beegeagle havent post its picture on its blog.

Let me give you a very succinct recount of your silly errors of judgment.

No 1, you assume any sane government, in any sane nation, can ever be justified to secretly buy weapons with hidden public funds. Worse still, you are justifying/excusing this for a notoriously corrupt nation to do such. Worse still, in a country were there are numerous armed groups with no explanation of how they got their modern arms killing the populace like KFC chicken.

No 2, you are sillily implying that the fact something was not reported by the press is the same example as a hidden procurement. No interest by B is the same as hidden intent by A?

No 3, you have moronically come to the conclusion that the claim made by the group of fcktards ruling you, after being unexpectedly caught, that the money was meant for arms purchase for the nation is the truth and the premise of your argument is now based on that "truth".

reedonne: What about a country that doesnt want anybody to hear about its procurement?. And the post confirm that the jet doesnt belong to CAN president but a chattered jet as claimed by the CAN president.

You are a cretinous person!

A moronic baastard product of a failed education system!

Why would Nigeria be buying things with public money that they don't "want anybody to hear about", you moronic person?

Samgreguc: which corruption was displayed there?
.
Am thinking of two things;
1. That the Isreali gov't is trying to support Nigeria as its been done all over d world.
2. That the gov't needs arm from d Israel gov't(nt too sure sha, wil nid to re read d report again bt, dats wot I tink 4 nw)

You are a cretinous person!

A moronic baastard product of a failed education system!

Isreal is helping Nigeria with what that has led to cash being carried on private jet and not being declared to the destination government?

You should refrain further from that moronic activity occurring in your head that you labelled "thinking".

It is not corruption, so why is the "business" being done with cash transported by private jet?

In the 21st century where there is electronic payment, how can the "GIAAAANT of Africa's" GOVERNMENT still be operating in cash on a so-called "public procurement"?

So GEJ is telling us it was cheaper to get the money to the sellers by chartering a private jet instead of paying a Major Bank transaction fees to make the payments on the government's behalf?

Who are these fcktards foooling?

GEJ for Life!

#BringBackGoodluck2015

Moronic nation, moronic people!

So this is what the head of CAN bought a private jet for?

To get his share in the money laundering market?

And the fcktards in my country would head to church again next Sunday to give more of their meager money to Men of Con calling themselves Men of God.

Then Pastor go the gbaladun, while they are shuffering and shmiling!

Moronic nation, moronic people!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfDIakTWYeA

Pendusky, come and pray for your leaders o!

Moronic nation, moronic people!

Our person nation led by a cretinous person president can sentence them to death but no charges would be brought against the military leadership thieves they were rebelling against. The thieves looting the budget meant for arming and feeding them, then who are sending them poorly trained and armed to be killed and humiliated by some few illiterate rag-tag Allahu-Akbar militias who have completely humiliated the so-call "Giant of Africa" army and shown they are quacks that are only able to kill and oppress unarmed people.

person GEJ and his continued support for corruption.