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ronkebp:

Well, that is what we are talking about, majority of men and women have that same mentality and end up marrying the wrong persons, just because you are sexaully comaptible, does not make them an ideal partner. Imagine marrying someone and there has been no children, what will run through the mind of the guy, won't he make references to the past life the lady has been living, or the lady making references to the past life the guy has been living.

Who said that looks is the only tool I would use to judge?

I am not so morally uptight that I would insist a woman should not have a past. But an acceptable past would have limits dependent on what I can know (which would most likely be very limited).

ronkebp: Sagamilo, it is too late for you to change your life-style, tasting everything in skirt, especially if you are having a hard-on when you see all those things jingling, jogging and jumping in front of you, it is not for your generation, this our generation has seen everything..i am talking about the children, the ones that are not yet born, to bring them up with a perfect understanding that "sex before marraige" is wrong.

As I see it, I have 2 options in life:

1) Find someone I like, know, attracted to and I am compatible with and be married.

2) Be single and enjoy it in every sense (using rotational theory) because (1) never happened.

I am happy with whichever option emerges.

ronkebp: You are funny....i am talking about "true love" here not just "taste and spit-out" kind of love, i love the act of loving and being loved back, now, you actually get what you want, what is "opening a package and not liking it"? lets assume, you married a V. for an example, you broke her cherry, what is there not to like....because apart from the bedmatics and the feel of the V....what is there not to like? I am confused about you not liking the package, remember nobody is perfect, but the immorality is just too high.

So we are clear, i am not saying that the ladies who have their cherries broken and eaten by another, are not good wife materials, i am only saying, they might or might not (but majority of the times) encouter serious marital problems in the future.

I don't want to open the package and realise the ingenuity of wonderbra, magic spanx, gel pads and even serious scarrings.

My love is highly dependent and inclusive of sexual attraction (at least from the starting phase). I make no apologies for that.

ifyalways: Rofl @ sagamite.
I think we are in the same page sha,as long as other factors are present and constant(sexu.al attraction included) love is the least factor anyone should worry about. It falls in and happens along the line.
Btw, sagamite, which one be "intense" sexual attraction?how dem dey kpekus dat one?

There are girls who would get it simply because they can get it up. That does not mean you will put a ring on it.

Intensely attracted are girls who you just want to tear up everytime you see them. You are thinking you would happily hit that ish morning till night for the rest of your life.

That is attraction level o. Personality is a different thing. Because I am intensely attracted to you does not mean I would put a ring on it if your personality is shyt.

armyofone: haha Sagamite, interesting.

how do you know you are s.exually attracted to the person?
are you equating love to se.x?

I would know by the combination of her bre[i]a[/i]st, backside, face, figure and manneristic va va voom.

ronkebp: That is da truth....what do you want, a decent girl that could be the best thing ever subsequently s/e/x wise, or a lady that has tasted everything and removed everything

A decent girl that is the best thing ever, not could be the best thing ever.

There is no way I am playing that no-sex-before marriage.

Is it after marriage I will open the package and realiase I don't like it? As if there is a return policy like you get in PC World? I for don waste all my money for some fairytale marriage I have no interest in. Is there a refund policy like in Hugo Boss?

ronkebp: My people, Nigerians do no not know what love, marraige and respect is, for the sake of the good ones, i will say "some". There is nothing long courtship...say 5-10 yrs will bring if not immorality and fornication. I personally love the Indians and the way they love and marry, majority of the times, their marraiges are arranged, but they know what "for better or worse means", and to say majority of them have their own gods, and do not follow the Biblical "keep yourself till marraige" thingy.

I have thought about it and made my resolutions that what marraiges are going through in Nigeria now, is just because of the immoralities. "sex before marraige" is a platform for failure already, that is with a partner, not adding or counting a lady that has slept with 5- 50 men, now, add abortions ontop...what did they expect their marraiges to be in the long-run?? if not a big sham and failure. I tire.

Ah!

Abeg, abeg, no spoil market o.

Chill with your moral preachings my friend.

Claus: Lol! All the online fighting stresses me out. Me, I like peace of mind.

I rarely fight online. I educate online.

I give them the education they missed out on because of the collapse of Nigerian education system that has made their ability to reason go into cerebral wastege.

I teach them that facts, reasoning and logic is very critical when making a public comment or assertion. And if they are not capable of those skills, they should simply shut up.

Claus: I can't understand why you would say she did not launder. The case has been decided in court.

Genuinely, out of curiousity, please explain to me why you don't think she laundered money.

She has been found guilty of contravening the money laundering regulations. If she just benefitted from a criminal enterprise, she would still have been guilty under the proceeds of crime act.

I believe she laundered money and will await credible information you have to the contrary.

You are soooo civilised.

I am waiting ...........with daggers drawn in both hands.

Billyonaire: No she did not launder, she benefited from a criminal enterprise, Ibori should have faced firing squad, and not a plea bargain.

So edjucate me on what she was found guilty of.

I wait.

Billyonaire: What was her offense ?

That lady is not supposed to do time, she is a victim of circumstance, which girl no go like befriend governor ? Dont believe everything the whiteman tells you, when they wanna seize fleece your money, they put allegations on your head. They survive by luring you to bring in money, then they seize d money...

You are a person!

So her justifiable excuse for breaking a law is "Who would not do it"?

Bloody cretin!

So she did not launder money?

PrettyCindy: In addition to what i said earlier, both parties should be truely honest and open to each other. They should invest time into talking about their past, likes, dislikes, dreams, aspiration etc. In a situation where long courtship isnt an option, talking and honesty about themselves will do go a long way in helping them achieve closeness.

Do you honestly think that total honesty is likely to lead to a healthy relationship?

Believe me, women don't like hearing the truth. They like hearing what they want to hear. That is pure fact!

I pity the foool that will be totally honest with a woman.

And I pity the woman that would be totally honest to a guy about some things about herself.

I prefer to say honesty in moderation. It might not sound funky to some, but it is the functional reality.

Sorry guys, I am just keeping it real.

naijababe: Ashawo okunrin

Answers with one hand in the air: "Present, Ma"!

ifyalways: Loving the one you marry for me!
Marrying the one you love does not cut it for me cos having joined the marriage train,I have come to find out that "love" is infact the least of the problems one encounters.love unlike respect,maturity,commitment is not static(the feelings comes and goes at random) and its also its almost humanely impossible to not love a man/woman that respects and treats u right.

Speak for womanhood.

I cannot love someone I am not intensely attracted to sexually, no matter how much she respects me or treats me right. The word intensely is very important.

jennykadry: Sagamite

1yr maximum is enough for me. Anything more than that is boring.

Wait is this 1 year for dating or 1 year from meeting to marrying?

jennykadry: I have always wanted it so and God made it so. I got to know him more in marriage because we live together. I never cohabited before marriage so no matter how long it could have gone on for, I still wouldn't know him that well. He could claim to be a night sleeper during the day but party and club all night with other girls. I wouldn't have known any of that because we never lived together.

That is why it might make sense to co-habit before marriage but I guess unna God no go agree.

jennykadry: Marriage i repeat is a risk. You walk in there with heads held high and prayer on your lips that things will work out well.

Mba! I am walking into it with Ifa chants on my lips and juju charms from my babalawo in my suitcase. Tor'mo ba fck up, she ni ima fck e up (If the babe fck up, I would fck her up).

jennykadry: We women actually sacrifice a lot during marriage more than you guys you might not know this but feel free to argue : you think it was easy for me to leave my family and move into someone's house and become a part of a family I never knew from Adam? Change my last name from my fathers to his? Get preggers and bring kids into this world without harboring the thought of the marriage not lasting? Signing a paper on my wedding day telling the whole world that if I die in very good old age(100yrs from now) bury me not in my fathers compound but husbands, accepting my husbands sisters like my own sister and brothers like me own?

Well na una want am pass, so rightfully you should be the ones sacrificing more.

Men no dey sacrifice to get in the skirt when na dem want sex more?

You think me dropping my pride to approach you at the risk of being rejected or worse being insulted is not a sacrifice?

You think me paying for date is not a sacrifice?

You think me spending all that money on stewpid shyt like Valentine and Xmas is not a sacrifice to enter between the legs?

Anuofia, let me see you complain again about sacrifice.

jennykadry: I have said it a million times on NLD that some of us women go into marriage first off with our hearts and hope for the best that our husbands stand by us in trying times because apart from God being the pillar of my life and household, my husband is the second pillar I hold unto daily for support(emotionally, physically, range rover evoguely etc) and it can be very devastating when these men don't live up to that expectation because you all are not broad shouldered for nothing, that shoulder was created for so many things, for us to cry on, sleep on, do an angle 69 on lean on etc. A lot of us have such great respect for our men even though we might not show it too often, you all are our backbone and when you men treat your wives like shalt, it drives me the hell crazy because we always want to look up to yous as a our earthly source of strength, you motivate us, your cheering us makes us push even harder when we are down. All in all I love my husband and I dont think I would love him this much if we dated for donkey years

Sorry I kind of went off topic there and pardon my errors, I'm mobile

ROFLMAO at Range Rover Evoguely.

If she is worth it, I don't mind it being Bentleyly as far as I am concerned.

That is why I am looking for quality, not shytheads.

If she can make me feel it is worth it being in life imprisonment, then I will make it my personal conviction to make her feel I am her guard-ing angel in one familial cell-unit.

Kai, una no like the way I used puns like imprisonment, conviction, guard and cell all in one sentence? Mo bad! I should go and work for a tabloid.

GenBuhari: @toth
Don't mind these ignorance comments from last 2 posters, (can you believe Sagamite thinks Obasanjo is greatest Nigerian leader?)
Look see gullible people who have swallowed the propanganda to demonise Abacha who was one of Africa's great leaders, ignoring evidence and throwing insults because they cannot support their points with evidence,

Cretinous mental patient.

thoth: Here you have a great opportunity to learn a few facts about events which matters most to us but since you lack the capability to engage in a rational argument i will leave you to yourself.



i understand these sort of people quite well, you can see he wasted two posts and still can't provide a name as he was asked. If we look at his two posts we can see that the compositions are almost the same except a slightly stupidier variation of the same curse words (an effect of constant bombardment of media propaganda which leaves the person with nothing but just same phrases that was repetitiously bombarded into his mind hence the only knowledge he has of the subject which he has subconsciously accepted albeit unwillingly.)

You are a person!

Learn what from a cretin that calls a murderous dictator an African Hero!

FOOOOL!

It would be more useful to use my time to learn about virtues and benefit of democracy from the North Korean politburo.

PrettyCindy: I think the saying “its not how far but how well“ should come into play here. You hear of cases where a sister sleeps with her sister‘s husband and bestfriend sleeping with her bestfriend‘s husband and so on. In all the years of sisterhood and friendship, there was no pointer that such betrayal could ever happen and these are people who have known each other from birth.
What am i trying to say? Courting someone for years is NOT a guarantee for a happy or lasting marriage. Most persons who get married after long years of courtship do it out of pity for the other person and for the fact that “people will talk“. While its perfectly okay to court someone for as long as possible in order to get to know each other, a man or lady that is good at pretending will successfully hide that aspect of him or her that he or she doesnt want you to know. At the end of the day, it all boils down to one thing- prayer, praying that God should reveal the ugly and worse side of that man or woman to you. I have heard of couples who date and court for years but their marriage crashed faster than a pack of cards.
Irrespective of the duration of courtship, the major thing is for the parties involved to BE MATURED IN MIND AND HEART, UNDERSTAND, RESPECT AND LOVE EACH OTHER and most importantly, they should both have a solid idea of what marriage is all about and be prepared for it.

No 1, do you not think it would be easier to spot a man with the kind of character to sleep with your sister over a longer courtship than over a short courtship?

No 2, are you saying people that have short courtship do not stay in marriage even though they are unhappy or have seen they have made a mistake, out of pity for the other person, because they have kids and for the fact that “people will talk“?

No 3, do you not think it would be easier to spot a pretender over a long courtship than over a short courtship?

If your answer to all 3 is "yes", so why is long courtship not better than short courtship?

We all know we don't want Sagamite, or Sagalulu as my sisters-in-law call me, to comment on the prayer part.

[quote author=tpia@]If those members like let them stay there and not run.


Dem dey think say na play.[/quote]Run from the Man of God and the blessings of the Holy Spirit?

Why?

Jongrac: Thumbs up for Emmanuel for doing himself well and making us proud by utilizing the opportunity that came his way, however my concern is that there are a lot of kids outta here in the Nigerian Space that has got commensurate skills and potentials but whose stories could possibly never be heard not because they aren't good but the system would not create nor support true learning and development.
Same dysfunctional system would lobby to have dis guy come back home after been baked by another state that pays attention to fundamentals - how possible? This guy's allegiance would be more to the US that made him who he eventually becomes.

If Nigerians wanted to change and improve the system, they would not have voted for Retardeen Jonathan.

hunniebomb: kindly read the whole sentence and understand before you start criticizing. I didn't say/type that anyone owes you anything. My point is if you are in a position to help (in terms of teaching how to fish not just hand-outs) then don't hesitate to help. Don't be like those that always wanna be the richest in the family.

This is not the place and time for your moral lectures. You are coming across like if you are saying the brother kidnapped might have some blame.

There is NO blame to him here. His junior brother is evil. NO ONE OWES YOU HELP! If you like, judge "they always wanna be the richest in the family". If it so upsets you, go out and work hard to challenge them in that. They owe you nothing!

ebenholer: [color=#006600][/color]But wen we love d one we marry, we stay in d part of holiness in God. beloved youths, pre-marital love is lust n evil b4 God. Dont love any Girl or Boy b4 gettin marry.

Do me a kind favour .......shove your religion up your arse.

Hope6289: Makes a whole lot of sense. Skipping wld help u, u shd hv time to skip in d mornings, @least 100. It will help

She said without exercise and you are suggesting skipping?

Fhemmmy: Where and how do you arrive at that as well?
You follow them everywhere?

I don't see them divorcing based on infidelity like love marriages.

And I don't think there is any stats that says they have offsprings of other people.

So how did you arrive at "always"?

Fhemmmy: How do you know the one that loves you . . .

What a question!

Maybe you will call the FBI to do a lie detection test.

Fhemmmy: Ummmmmm.... I will never advice such.
A man/Woman that marries someone he/she does not love always find a way around to look for love elsewhere . . . . It is dangerous as happiness is always at stake

The are a millions of Indo-Asians in the UK and in Asia who marry someone they don't love and they stay faithful.

So where did you get "always find a way around to look for love elsewhere"?

The Nigerian government are finally having sense to say what I have been saying for years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18610751

[size=18pt]Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan urges birth control[/size]

Nigerians should limit the number of children they are having, according to the country's leader.

President Goodluck Jonathan said people were having too many children, and went on to back birth control measures.

He said that in particular, uneducated people were having too many children, and urged people to only have as many children as they could afford.

The United Nations has estimated that the population of Nigeria could grow from 160m to 400m by 2050.

Nigeria is the most populous country in Africa, and previous attempts to encourage adults to have fewer children have failed.

BBC Nigeria correspondent Will Ross says population growth is increasing pressure on the land which is a major trigger of violence in the country.

Mr Jonathan said legislation and policies aimed at controlling the number of births might be considered in future.

He said he had asked the National Population Commission to inform people about birth control before taking the issue further.

The president acknowledged that the issue was a sensitive one, saying: "We are extremely religious people... It is a very sensitive thing."

Mr Jonathan was quoted as saying: "Both Christians and Muslims, and even traditionalist and all the other religions, believe that children are God's gifts to man.

"So it is difficult for you to tell any Nigerian to number their children because... it is not expected to reject God's gifts."

jennykadry: ^^i was allergic to players sagamu if you like date a girl for 6 years, a girl that wants to play you will, without any drama. Why are you still single saga? Still trying to know the girl? continue kpekusing diaa, no go marry

Why am I still single? Because I like being happy.

ronkebp: He is afraid...my sister.....na fear dey catch am.

No be fear dey catch me o. Na sense dey catch me.

thoth: And you still don't have a NAME but just a mesmeric stream of filth and ignorance.
Give me a name not a reiteration of media propaganda garbage.

You are a person!

Answer my questions! That is your true hero?

So it is propaganda he stole money?

It is propaganda he killed an environmentalist?

It is propaganda he accused eminent Nigerians of throwing bombs?

No wonder Africa is backwards, when we have tons of fucktards like you and Genbuhari that we have not relegated their opinions into the dustbin.

FOOOOOL!

thoth: I wonder how some people got their impression that with Abacha there was no freedom and posting on the internet would land somebody in jail, I believe it this is the result of brainwashing by reactionary elements and western imperialist media, during and after Abacha 's regime. People would swallow any garbage that comes out of the western media without seeking other sources of information.
i would like to have somebody present a name of an INDIVIDUAL that was jailed or killed by Abacha because he was HONESTLY fighting for freedom. Any person that understands the process of forming and maintaining national policy and also has read of established methods of subversion and distracting the national policies(established or still in process) would clearly see what those puppets are for.
Give me a name and i will give you a good reason why the said individual found himself in that situation.

Abacha remains one of the True Heroes to be remembered throughout Africa.

You are a person!

You are intensely a fcking mooron!

So the True Hero of Africa is the person that wanted to convert from Military Dictator to a one-party dictator?

The True Hero of Africa is the person that killed Environmental campaigners?

The True Hero of Africa is the person that was accusing eminent Nigerians of going out on the streets throwing bombs?

The True Hero of Africa is the person that looted over £3bn from the nation?

You are a person! You should end your miserable life.

Cretin!

denzel2009: yeah, we know you have a big belly. stop rubbing it in our face!

Oloshi!

The girls will correct you on what the bulge is.

Yorisb: I'd seek for Ronke's confirmation then.

Let her husband catch you saying that. Me I go just run. That na when you go realise sharp sharp say Saga no get liver, na all mouth.

Me?

My natural bulge! (Even more pronounced if the person is a fine girl).

FlexTrex: Girls get aggressive when caught cheating cos they aren't supposed to be caught. They figure the whole world knows its guys that do the cheating and it should stay that way. However, girls cheat ALOT. Girls, married women, the works. Some of them have reached the point where they don't even consider what they do to be cheating, plus no one would believe you over them, after all, its guys that cheat. Its just a warped world we live in.

jacobscros: because girls don't like being guilty/wrong at all

pro01: Excellent topic. This is so so typical and true. Especially for those girls that had claimed to be virtuous, and played the part to perfection.

Girls hate the fact that you have the audacity to catch them in the act. . .thereby stripping them of the luxury (they are used to) of pretending to be virtuous or moral or loyal or "good" or whatever. They would have preferred that you merely suspected them and voiced out your suspicion (without ever catching them red handed). . .so that they can blackmail you with the typical accusation that you're "insecure", or "immature" or that you committed the mortal sin of not "trusting" them enough. Catching them red handed makes them hate you for not being "secure" enough to allow them be themselves. That's the only reason why they naturally react aggressively to bubble bursting occasions like being caught in the act.

I know them like the back of my palm, trust me on that. For dudes who care to learn, UNDERSTAND THIS: With women, never deem any "good"; no such thing exists. It's only a matter of comparative badness.

harakiri: What on earth are you talking about? Missing something how? Finance or $exual finesse? I've seen guys who are good in bed,financially comfortable,good looking (the whole total package) and yet. . .They still got cheated on by their ladies. It's not about "missing something or lacking something". The truth is, women NEVER know what they really want. If they ask for oranges and you give them, they'll say the prefer apples. If you give them apples, they'll say it should have been apple pie. If you bring apple pie, they'll get angry and wonder why you keep giving them all they ask for. The fastest way to end your life is to delude yourself into believing you can please a woman 100%. Even women themselves don't know what they want (the few honest ones amongst them will tell you this point blank).

NB : Get into the real world and quit watching all those Oprah Winfrey shows that are focused on brainwashing men into believing "everything wrong in relationship is THEIR fault" and thus, men are turned into she-men and outright wussies.

http: They will never be satisfied, cos they are present being, women if not all are only concern about what they get presently, that is why they will never understand what they want in life. Either single or married, they are thesame. Most are only concern about present situation, they want to have all they could, sacrifice, patience, endurance,steadfastness, is never in their dictionary. That is why i call the "Present Being" most ladies are not bother about what future holds for them.

As to the reason why they get aggressive when caught cheating, they so much believe that any fault from they " men cause it" they trying to justify why they did it either for sexual or financial gain. Give woman money, she will cheat because of romance, give enogh romance, she will cehar for money, give her both, she will cheat because of adventure. Why to you have to trust a being when most of their thinking is control by Hormones.

The answers to the thread can be found in a combination of these 5 posts.

Wislet: hehehehheeheeee.
Wickeeeeed .
'uncle' Saga, i know say na u go do this mischief

How can he be such an intellectual and then run when people are commenting on his scholarly opinions.