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Culture / Re: African Images-sights And Sounds! by Salym(m): 3:56pm On Jan 01, 2014
Fulaman198:

So are they Hausa or Fulani?

what do you think are they? they are neither fully blooded Hausa nor fully blooded Fulani. In fact they are more of Hausa than Fulani with regards to language, culture and dressing.
Culture / Re: African Images-sights And Sounds! by Salym(m): 3:45pm On Jan 01, 2014
Adamskuty: hmm! Noble fulaman,why is it that some northerners call themselves hausa/fulani and not hausa or fulani separatly??

Most of my friends from the north say they are hausa/fulani, Why do they combine the two?

Is it that hausa/fulani are different from pure hausas and pure fulanis?

Exactly, inter marriages between Hausa and Fulani lead to the having of Hausa/Fulani, but in essence there are the pure blooded Hausas and the pure blooded Fulani (majority of whom still live a nomadic life). However, it is difficult now to find a Hausa man without Fulani blood in his lineage.
Politics / Re: Which State Governor Deserves The Award For Best Performing Governor In 2013 by Salym(m): 5:10pm On Dec 26, 2013
Ikengawo:

stop being so gullible.

ticket to Canada is 2000 USD
if he sends 200 children to canada, that's 400,000 USD.
with 400,000 he could have built whatever it is in canada that those kids are going to see right there an Kano, and train up to 2000 students a year with a 'canadian' education in Kano year after year while playing canadian teachers if he wanted to to stay there and teach

im not counting what they will pay for living for these students in canada (over 38,000 USD a year which is average in canada x 200 students)


African leaders like to throw this garbage at us and confuse us into thinking they know what they're doing with these unsustainable gimmicks

free laptops
painted schools
tickets and board in foreign countries

this is not education, these are not ideas or structural changes, these are not policies and more importantly they're not sustainable. They're gimmicks meant to deceive the people. Those kids you're sending to Canada will go to Canada and met hundreds of people from Kano that got the same education there but won't bother coming back because there's no work in their state and their skills won't be appreciated in Nigeria, and Kano's barbaric culture[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]. Was it not a week ago that Okonjo Iweala was shouted at by an illiterate because she was sick when trying to propose a budget?

what about the women that go and get this free education? will they not be rendered are useless baby machines by their husbands in a sharia state? Stop these gimmicks. I even think it's trash when Rochas did his own free education gimmick in Imo state. The cost of school isn't a problem for anyone it's the quality.

I was enjoying and liking your post until I reached a point where you talked about Kano's barbaric culture. Imagine a person from a culture where kidnapping, cannibalism, ritual killings, drug trafficking, armed robbery, immorality and indecency, making money at all cost are the order of the day posting such trash.

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Politics / Re: Sir Ahmadu Bello's Xmas Message To Northern Christians In 1959 by Salym(m): 5:30pm On Dec 25, 2013
UK Bobo: All na Fulbe wash. Talking from the side of his mouth, when he knows that the Imams in the mosque since the 50's have been preaching a 'diversive, hate-filled philosophy' since they started collecting Saudi money to spread a wahhabi doctrine.

How did he protect christian people when the young boys started running around with machetes in 66?[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

It is not what you say or write, it's what you do that has power. Those Muslims who protected Christians during the pogroms (not one, or two...) practiced love, those Xtians that stood over Muslims when they prayed in Jos, two years ago...practiced love.

You may want to portray him as 'Mandela', but the facts do not stack up. Too many corpses were buried on his watch.

Merry Xmas

The statement in bold says everything about you. May be you know nothing about history.Go back an read about the coup and its aftermath, thats how you will get to know that Sardauna has been killed by then. Smh at your display of ignorance.
Politics / Re: Sir Ahmadu Bello's Xmas Message To Northern Christians In 1959 by Salym(m): 5:23pm On Dec 25, 2013
Validated:

Give the almajiris education and you will see that the North will change. Let us face it, lack of basic education is the biggest problem the Northerners face. Check all Lagos gatehouses, 'Meruwas', shoe-shiners, okada riders; need I say about 'gworo sellers, beggars, etc and you understand that you and other have a long way to go.

And that's what you use as a yard stick in measuring the poverty and illiteracy in the North? This is not surprising because even Phd. holders among you people have the same shallow and ignorant opinion about Northerners. I wonder at how you people advertise your whole ignorance to the world. It's really shameful.Those 'Mai ruwas' coblers, okada men are not all Northerners. A sizable number of them are people from Niger Republic whose culture is slightly similar to that of Hausa/Fulani and are always ready to portray themselves as Northerners. They are also in the North doing the same jobs you mentioned above. Equally, there are many southerners doing menial jobs in the North.

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Education / Re: ABU 2013/2014 POST-UTME SCREENING HOLDS 18TH – 21ST DECEMBER, 2013 by Salym(m): 2:23am On Dec 14, 2013
tombeck: Please what postgraduate School. I applied for master but i'm yet to hear from ABU. please what is the latest update for Masters Students.
None for now because some of us are yet to write their exams. Keep your fingers crossed tho, you will be called soon.
Culture / Re: Does Fulanis Flog A Husband-to-be Before He Is Allowed To Marry Their Daughter? by Salym(m): 8:39am On Dec 07, 2013
They have a culture called 'sharu' in which a young man will be flogged and the next year the other one will flog the person who flogged him the previous year. They use it to measure who is the most courageous man.
Crime / Re: 6 Arrested For Ritual Murders In Imo State by Salym(m): 7:53pm On Dec 06, 2013
01mcfadden: Instead of coming together to condemn these animals in man skin,some are taking sides attributing the act to the igbos and others attributing it to the christians. I wonder how Nigeria will grow while we are divided against each other. Most Nigerians are bigots and this reflects in their day to day activities. Arent those that arrested them also Igbos?
Smh 4 some Nigerians!

01mcfadden:

Then what is keeping you from slaughtereing the Igbos just as hausas are doing? Just as if yorubas and even hausas are not being slaughtered by the abokis. Ask your Awolowo how the hausas betrayed him after he helped in using famine as a weapon in defeating Biafrans then. As far as i'm concerned,the yorubas are just been ordered around like sheep,they dont have their own agendas,they support either the hausas or Igbos and coward is my defination of that. As you can see,through Apc,they are now in alliance with abokis to take power from the southerners...If not that i'm certain that Gej wont be ousted out in 2019,i would have said we should just keep fingers crossed and see how the abokis will still use the yorubas and dump them after asuming office.
Jagoons (jagaban) is just looting them dry but they are too short sighted and confused minded that they couldnt read the handwritting on the wall after they always claim they are the most educated in Nigerian. (dwelling on archaic facts)
https://www.nairaland.com/1479768/deportees-slam-n1bn-suit-against/6#18854325

01mcfadden:
You can argue this fact as much as you like but it is never ever gona change people's stance on the attributes of true muslims. We know them and we see them on daily basis. If u like,continue ranting from today till tomorow,its not going to change a thing!

01mcfadden: I still cant understand the existence of Muslims in our midst...Religion of pieces!

https://www.nairaland.com/1448459/kenya-mall-under-attack-islamic/79#18391375

01mcfadden: Fagge (ASUU chairman) is a gay,he asked me out and i refused. He then said 'the righteous shall partake in the persecution of the sinners'...the result is what we have been seeing since july 1st. I offered him a gal to bleep,but he turned down my offer. I cant stand him doing that thing to me,i'm scared...make una hep me ooooo! cry

https://www.nairaland.com/1540956/boss-office-ever-approached/1#19971875

Some of your posts that I quoted above show your true colour. In fact you are worse than the people you quoted. Its only when the issue affects Igbos that you preach against tribalism and bigotry, but when it affect others, you unleash your bigotry. This typical of many Nigerians not you alone. Bloody hypocrite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided

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Religion / Re: Toni Payne Blasts Chris Okotie For Saying "All Catholics Will Go To Hell" by Salym(m): 7:27pm On Dec 04, 2013
papa giddy: pst okotie is right o! catholic gave birth to islam.prophet mohammad was once a catholic but he was not properly instructed about d truth of christian faith he veered into heresies and he landed in hell......

This is the dumbest post I have seen on this confused thread....Y dont you concentrate on your catholic and protestant arguments.....foolish animal..
Celebrities / Re: Ice Prince Denied His Son Because He Was Unsure by Salym(m): 2:45pm On Dec 01, 2013
hemartins: Pls who [b]have [/b]fairly used MTN recharge card. Pm Me.
Education / Re: Photo Of A Secondary School Classroom In Nigeria. by Salym(m): 7:02pm On Nov 23, 2013
virus2010:

dis even a first class classroom compare to hell i saw in dy far north...

Stuuu..pid liar.....whr did you see such school in the North? Northern public schools have far better infrastructure than the dilapidated pits you call schools in the South.
Properties / Re: New Dimension To Nigerian Architecture (construction Of 4 Bedroom Twin Duplex) by Salym(m): 7:14pm On Nov 21, 2013
Castos: Am just getting started with the course, just learning the manual aspect of it as a beginner though I'll still learn the computer or digital side if it, na small small naa.


Ur lettering is terrible. Don't they teach graphics comm. in your school?
Properties / Re: New Dimension To Nigerian Architecture (construction Of 4 Bedroom Twin Duplex) by Salym(m): 7:12pm On Nov 21, 2013
Castos: Am just getting started with the course, just learning the manual aspect of it as a beginner though I'll still learn the computer or digital side if it, na small small naa.

Ur lettering is terrible. Don't they teach graphics comm. in your school?
Culture / Re: Nigeria's Disappearing Languages by Salym(m): 10:11am On Nov 15, 2013
taiocol: yea. There hav never known english or any other language. grin

Learn how to write English correctly before you abuse other people. smh
Politics / Re: Court Of Appeal Sacks 2 Senators, 8 House Of Rep. Members by Salym(m): 8:53am On Nov 02, 2013
X-factoria:
Why are people not seeing this mess and Buhari's failure?? He practically[b] handpicked candidates[/b] for CPC in Katsina! This same failures now in APC are those clamouring to be entrusted with the future of Nigeria so that they can create more confusion.

If this were to have happened to PDP, some he-goats would have bombarded this thread to rain insults on GEJ and the PDP.

Now its becoming clear day by day that APC is a party of hypocrites and rogues followed only by gullible Nigerians.
See this mumu...tell me where you saw 'handpicked candidates' in the story. CPC candidates won the election but were removed and replaced with PDP candidates. What this story is saying is that the seats have been returned to the CPC candidates. Wonder which school you attended.
Travel / Re: 92 Migrants Die In Sahara Desert After Failed Crossing by Salym(m): 8:40pm On Nov 01, 2013
me_for_you: Extreme hunger and poverty in nothern nigeria and sahel savannah. Yet the citizens of those place don't want to go to school saying it is haram

Imagine the trash you just posted. Those people were Nigeriens. What is there connection with Northern Nigeria?
Politics / Re: Pro-jonathan Rally Turns Violent In Kaduna, Several Injured by Salym(m): 4:39pm On Oct 05, 2013
Arysexy:

LWKMD, u rili got me cracking, d mumuity is very obvious, imagine jumping into bus frm sokoto, maidugri and travel al d way to kaduna just bc u wia promised 3k bt u don't know why u r going. Laf wan wound me here! No wonder its easy to brainwash and use them. Poverty is a disease!
see these pumpkin heads....u guys must ve read d story frm end to beginin....they wr told it was a unity rally....wonder how u passed thru wt such foolishness...
Career / Re: What Did You Study And Where Are You Working? by Salym(m): 9:38am On Oct 02, 2013
Studied B.Sc. Architecture and now studying M.Sc. Architecture but ASUU has suspended me....I dont have a boss because am d boss!
Career / Re: What Did You Study And Where Are You Working? by Salym(m): 9:34am On Oct 02, 2013
Studied bsc architecture...now studyn msc architecture...bt ASUU has suspended me....i dnt have a boss....am d boss!
Crime / Re: Christians Caught Attempting To Bomb Cocin Church In Bauchi by Salym(m): 11:22am On Oct 01, 2013
This has been on nairaland but nobody has made a comment...bloody hypocrites.....if it were a muslim the thread wud ve been filled wt abuse on muslims and islam...
Politics / Re: Pictures Of His Friends Killed In Yobe College Of Agric. Attack by Salym(m): 11:14am On Oct 01, 2013
asamaigho: What good has izlamm brought to Nigeria,? izlamm is really a doom.
Blood thirsty moon god Allah,
you must b sick in d head 4 sayn that...boko haram is nothn bt a group of criminals using islam as a stooge to perpetrate their barbaric killings of people....Allah will surely expose dz people and their sponsors one day and you will b surprised who they will be...
Nairaland / General / Re: 30-story Building Built In 15 Days by Salym(m): 11:11am On Sep 14, 2013
Thrz nothn surprising abt ths building...stop cmparing that wt naija buildings that are stil built wt concrete n blocks...thats steel framed building with glass cladding...all materials are factory made, fixed on site and hoisted up into place..it can be done anywhere not only in china...

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Education / Re: ASUU Foresees Increase In Fees, If Demands Not Met by Salym(m): 7:21pm On Sep 11, 2013
Why should i pay over 120k for my masters tuition and have to be in the same fate with all these undergrads that get it cheap...abeg joor i wan go back school and finish my course o!
Politics / Re: Borno To Demolish Churches For The Construction Of Housing Units by Salym(m): 12:43pm On Sep 09, 2013
Sterling Towers: What other public interest should override that of schools. These hausas and their Logic. The churches should take em to the court , I know they will lose at the court of first instance but not at the supreme court and for my igbos brothers this is what I mean when I say only the indigenes which include the governor of a state are actually the owners of the lands to wit Lagos State. Gerrit now.
so maiduguri people are hausas? Do they teach social studies in d south? If they do i dont think u will posting foolish statement calling maiduguri people hausas...d op did not give any source where he got d news...how can we be sure he is telling the truth? Am sure this is a move by xtians to black paint d guvnor...its ridiculous...no any sane man will believe d op that its only churches n schools are targeted...d op shud giv us his source if hez no lying..
Literature / Re: Which Author's Books Have You Read The Most? by Salym(m): 8:27pm On Sep 07, 2013
Ovie56: 17 and still counting.. James is a legend
oboy u r yet 2 start readn chase..as 4 me jh chase..53..stephen king 15...ludlum 7..jhn grisham 5..
Fashion / Re: Indecent Dressing Among People Of Developing Countries by Salym(m): 8:20pm On Aug 28, 2013
BedLam: MUST EVERYTHING BE PLEASING TO GOD? OK! How do we know what pleases him? He didn't create clothes when he created man as supposed. The west introduced us to clothing, so if they are going back to the good old days without clothes then we should follow suit! Abi u want make every woman de wear ninja like Muslim fanatics?
see ds zombie! So whitemen introducd u 2 clothn ryt? Then must b frm d uncivilisd, uncouth ppl d whites brot out of d stone age era...as 4 me d whites found my ancestors fully clad in dresses dat equalld any of its kind in thz yrs. If a woman covers herself shez a muslim fanatic ryt? Then abt u? An atheist fanatic?
Politics / Re: 17 Senior Advocates Of Nigeria (SANs) Named by Salym(m): 6:29am On Jul 22, 2013
skyluv2000: Good, amidst Nigeria's present trauma the Judiciary is standing firm, witout any wavering,

congrats to them all.

i saw almost 5 ibos there, this shows that, that tribe is really something else.They dont slack in any field.that's good for them to regain their dignity as a fallen tribe.

For one nothern man there is not a surprise because they are far from education, and any of them that wish to be educated will end up reading, bus admin,mass com, phylosophy or at most pol.sci, so they are nt high class academic tribe.[i][/i]

Then for yorubas that top the list is not a surprise too,because to whom much is giving much more is expected. Wen their father Awolowo (thief) stole all nig money. During civil war to giv them free education, what do you expect to happen.

For notherners, go and hold Gowon (retardeen) responsible for ur backwardness in education, for failing on his duty to steal money too and endue you guys wit quality education like, the arm robber awolowo did.

Instead he mobilised you people for arms and ammunitions.

But for my dear ibos, i will only say that you people are great heroes,after the attempted and planned genocide by Awolowo and Gowon,we are still sprouting lke the sand in a seashore.

Igbo ga-aadir ri.

hahahahahahhaha see this yeye man.............be proud of yourself not others..................am a northerner and I have a masters degree in Architecture...............oya tell me your highest qualification and descipline........am sure u just managed to finish ND in one of the miserable local polytechnics in your state......... grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Politics / Re: Senators Who Voted To Legalise Underage Marriage. by Salym(m): 4:58pm On Jul 21, 2013
NewsRescue- It is not unusual for Nigeria’s media, which consists of many highly unprofessional scripters, to present junk and trash for public consumption. NewsRescue was created among other things, for this very purpose. Cleaning a filthy and propagandist, dangerous media.

Here are the facts of the senate proceedings in question:
The topic voted on in the senate was not, “age of marriage,” as it has been made to appear.
The presentation by senator Yerima, was not, the age a woman should marry.
35 Nigerian senators who voted against the deletion of the segment, did not vote for age of marriage, rather they voted to uphold women’s unaleniable rights, even over men.
Senator Yerima did not introduce any thing new, rather he simply pointed out in upholding Nigeria’s constitution, that segments can not simply be deleted without proper vote and due process.
And finally, underlined: the segment to be deleted threatened to deprive women of their rights.
We proceed to review the section 29 of the constitution that was to be deleted without proper process:
Citizenship renunciation Rights
(1) Any citizen of Nigeria of full age who wishes to renounce his Nigerian citizenship shall make a declaration in the prescribed manner for the renunciation.
(2) The President shall cause the declaration made under subsection (1) of this section to be registered and upon such registration, the person who made the declaration shall cease to be a citizen of Nigeria.
(3) The President may withhold the registration of any declaration made under subsection (1) of this section if-
(a) the declaration is made during any war in which Nigeria is physically involved; or
(b) in his opinion, it is otherwise contrary to public policy.
(4) For the purposes of subsection (1) of this section.
(a) “full age” means the age of eighteen years and above;
(b) any woman who is married shall be deemed to be of full age.
It is immediately seen from the above, that the section deals with conditions under which a Nigerian citizen is considered eligible to make a declaration to revoke his citizenship. “full age” to denounce/revoke/renounce Nigerian citizenship is used in reference to being allowed to make decisions, including this revocation. For both sexes, “full age” is 18 and above, however according to this section of the constitution, a woman is given greater and exclusive rights and authority, being regarded of “full age” to make decisions as serious as the revocation of her citizenship, once she is married.

When we think of what the Nigerian feminist forum created a petition to contest, it is very scary. They acted “hormonally,” without even taking a read of the constitutional segment in discussion. This constitutional permission, actually safe-guards women’s rights by allowing for instance, a married woman or girl, who feels cheated or otherwise deprived by Nigeria, the right to denounce her citizenship. This section is not related to and does not address what age a woman can marry.
NewsRescue-My Thoughts On ‘Child’ Marriage

It simply addresses what age a woman is eligible to make full fledgeling decisions, which of course can include divorce. If this section was deleted, then if for instance a 16 year old is married, she will not be considered “of age,” to challenge the marriage in court, or to revoke her citizenship if she wishes to seek asylum via the United Nations, or to any single citizenship nation. Such married young woman will have to wait and bear the pain till she is 18.

Senator Yerima had pointed out, that in Islam, once a woman is married, she is automatically of age to make all adult life decisions, including the right to divorce, this is as obtains in Nigeria’s constitution. Only the 35 senators listed below, voted to uphold these fundamental women’s rights of age unlimited choice, including the choice to denounce citizenship:

Sadly, it is evident that many of Nigeria’s senators are slightly more than barely literate and the Nigerian press is no better. See error and daft journalism in Punch, AllAfrica, Dailypost, Naij, SaharaReporters, to point out a few irresponsible editorials.

Quoting other sources:

2. CITIZENSHIP
The Section 26 of the 1999 Constitution defines who is a Nigerian citizen and how same may be acquired by naturalization and by registration. The Constitution makes no provision for the process by which non-Nigerian men married to Nigerian women and who are so desirous, may become Nigerian citizens. The silence here has continued to wreck untold hardship on the stability of many marriages.

Furthermore, section 29(4) (b) of the constitution provides for the renunciation of citizenship and thus allows an under aged woman to revoke her citizenship even when she has not attained the age of majority or the constitutional voting age. http://gtdn..com/2010/01/gender-gaps-in-nigeria-constitution.html

Ayo Turton, a US based lawyer explains the same:
Ayo Turton is a USA based lawyer
The clause that is really causing this unnecessary hullabaloo is Section 29 (4) (b). That clause has always been part of our laws, but the Senate moved to remove it as infringing on child’s right by making every married woman an adult. At the taking of the vote for the first time, they got two-third to remove it from the Constitution. But Yerima stood up and whipped up religious sentiment by galvanizing his Muslim brothers who ignorantly believed him into action. When the peace was threatened, David Mark, the Senate President capitulates and asked that the vote be taken again, at this point they were no longer able to garner two-third votes to remove the provision from the Constitution, so it remains.

Now to the legal issue: Section 29 (4) CLEARLY states: “for the purposes of subsection 1″ Section 29 subsection (1) CLEARLY states: “Any citizen of Nigeria of full age WHO WISHES TO RENOUNCE HIS NIGERIAN CITIZENSHIP (emphasis mine) shall make a declaration in the prescribed manner for the renunciation”

This is called “narrow definition” Subsection (1) narrowly defined under what circumstances the definitions stated at clauses (a) and (b) would be applicable. Therefore clauses (a) and (b) of section 29 (4) are only relevant to “renunciation of citizenship” alone. What made this clearer and should leave no one in doubt is the fact that clause 29 (4) (a) re-emphasized that “full age” shall be 18, but if you are already married, for the purposes of renunciation of citizenship you shall be automatically qualified to do so even if you are not 18 yet. Because you are deemed of “full age” for renunciation reason based on the unambiguous definition given by subsection 29 (1) In any case S. 29 (4) (b) is referring to someone already married not about-to-marry.

As a matter of fact, if you ask me, the Constitution as it is, threatens Yerima status than support it.

Posted by Myne Whitman, Romance meets life
Yerima and The Nigerian Senate Did Not Change The Age of Marriage
…In conclusion, it is said that a large number of Nigerians don’t really know the law or their rights, and I think the lawmakers fall into this category. Those who pushed to delete section 29(4)(b) did it on the grounds that it contradicts 29(4)(a) and infringes the right of a child by allowing early marriage. I think otherwise. I believe section 29(4)(b) of the constitution deals with the age of a woman after the fact of marriage, and what rights she has at that time.

http://newsrescue.com/how-nigerias-gutter-media-misconstrued-the-yerima-underage-marriage-senate-proceeding/#axzz2ZbUrz0dG

this is all about hatred hypocrits

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Politics / Re: Yerima Persuades Senate To Support Underage Marriage In Nigeria by Salym(m): 4:56pm On Jul 21, 2013
NewsRescue- It is not unusual for Nigeria’s media, which consists of many highly unprofessional scripters, to present junk and trash for public consumption. NewsRescue was created among other things, for this very purpose. Cleaning a filthy and propagandist, dangerous media.

Here are the facts of the senate proceedings in question:
The topic voted on in the senate was not, “age of marriage,” as it has been made to appear.
The presentation by senator Yerima, was not, the age a woman should marry.
35 Nigerian senators who voted against the deletion of the segment, did not vote for age of marriage, rather they voted to uphold women’s unaleniable rights, even over men.
Senator Yerima did not introduce any thing new, rather he simply pointed out in upholding Nigeria’s constitution, that segments can not simply be deleted without proper vote and due process.
And finally, underlined: the segment to be deleted threatened to deprive women of their rights.
We proceed to review the section 29 of the constitution that was to be deleted without proper process:
Citizenship renunciation Rights
(1) Any citizen of Nigeria of full age who wishes to renounce his Nigerian citizenship shall make a declaration in the prescribed manner for the renunciation.
(2) The President shall cause the declaration made under subsection (1) of this section to be registered and upon such registration, the person who made the declaration shall cease to be a citizen of Nigeria.
(3) The President may withhold the registration of any declaration made under subsection (1) of this section if-
(a) the declaration is made during any war in which Nigeria is physically involved; or
(b) in his opinion, it is otherwise contrary to public policy.
(4) For the purposes of subsection (1) of this section.
(a) “full age” means the age of eighteen years and above;
(b) any woman who is married shall be deemed to be of full age.
It is immediately seen from the above, that the section deals with conditions under which a Nigerian citizen is considered eligible to make a declaration to revoke his citizenship. “full age” to denounce/revoke/renounce Nigerian citizenship is used in reference to being allowed to make decisions, including this revocation. For both sexes, “full age” is 18 and above, however according to this section of the constitution, a woman is given greater and exclusive rights and authority, being regarded of “full age” to make decisions as serious as the revocation of her citizenship, once she is married.

When we think of what the Nigerian feminist forum created a petition to contest, it is very scary. They acted “hormonally,” without even taking a read of the constitutional segment in discussion. This constitutional permission, actually safe-guards women’s rights by allowing for instance, a married woman or girl, who feels cheated or otherwise deprived by Nigeria, the right to denounce her citizenship. This section is not related to and does not address what age a woman can marry.
NewsRescue-My Thoughts On ‘Child’ Marriage

It simply addresses what age a woman is eligible to make full fledgeling decisions, which of course can include divorce. If this section was deleted, then if for instance a 16 year old is married, she will not be considered “of age,” to challenge the marriage in court, or to revoke her citizenship if she wishes to seek asylum via the United Nations, or to any single citizenship nation. Such married young woman will have to wait and bear the pain till she is 18.

Senator Yerima had pointed out, that in Islam, once a woman is married, she is automatically of age to make all adult life decisions, including the right to divorce, this is as obtains in Nigeria’s constitution. Only the 35 senators listed below, voted to uphold these fundamental women’s rights of age unlimited choice, including the choice to denounce citizenship:

Sadly, it is evident that many of Nigeria’s senators are slightly more than barely literate and the Nigerian press is no better. See error and daft journalism in Punch, AllAfrica, Dailypost, Naij, SaharaReporters, to point out a few irresponsible editorials.

Quoting other sources:

2. CITIZENSHIP
The Section 26 of the 1999 Constitution defines who is a Nigerian citizen and how same may be acquired by naturalization and by registration. The Constitution makes no provision for the process by which non-Nigerian men married to Nigerian women and who are so desirous, may become Nigerian citizens. The silence here has continued to wreck untold hardship on the stability of many marriages.

Furthermore, section 29(4) (b) of the constitution provides for the renunciation of citizenship and thus allows an under aged woman to revoke her citizenship even when she has not attained the age of majority or the constitutional voting age. http://gtdn..com/2010/01/gender-gaps-in-nigeria-constitution.html

Ayo Turton, a US based lawyer explains the same:
Ayo Turton is a USA based lawyer
The clause that is really causing this unnecessary hullabaloo is Section 29 (4) (b). That clause has always been part of our laws, but the Senate moved to remove it as infringing on child’s right by making every married woman an adult. At the taking of the vote for the first time, they got two-third to remove it from the Constitution. But Yerima stood up and whipped up religious sentiment by galvanizing his Muslim brothers who ignorantly believed him into action. When the peace was threatened, David Mark, the Senate President capitulates and asked that the vote be taken again, at this point they were no longer able to garner two-third votes to remove the provision from the Constitution, so it remains.

Now to the legal issue: Section 29 (4) CLEARLY states: “for the purposes of subsection 1″ Section 29 subsection (1) CLEARLY states: “Any citizen of Nigeria of full age WHO WISHES TO RENOUNCE HIS NIGERIAN CITIZENSHIP (emphasis mine) shall make a declaration in the prescribed manner for the renunciation”

This is called “narrow definition” Subsection (1) narrowly defined under what circumstances the definitions stated at clauses (a) and (b) would be applicable. Therefore clauses (a) and (b) of section 29 (4) are only relevant to “renunciation of citizenship” alone. What made this clearer and should leave no one in doubt is the fact that clause 29 (4) (a) re-emphasized that “full age” shall be 18, but if you are already married, for the purposes of renunciation of citizenship you shall be automatically qualified to do so even if you are not 18 yet. Because you are deemed of “full age” for renunciation reason based on the unambiguous definition given by subsection 29 (1) In any case S. 29 (4) (b) is referring to someone already married not about-to-marry.

As a matter of fact, if you ask me, the Constitution as it is, threatens Yerima status than support it.

Posted by Myne Whitman, Romance meets life
Yerima and The Nigerian Senate Did Not Change The Age of Marriage
…In conclusion, it is said that a large number of Nigerians don’t really know the law or their rights, and I think the lawmakers fall into this category. Those who pushed to delete section 29(4)(b) did it on the grounds that it contradicts 29(4)(a) and infringes the right of a child by allowing early marriage. I think otherwise. I believe section 29(4)(b) of the constitution deals with the age of a woman after the fact of marriage, and what rights she has at that time.

http://newsrescue.com/how-nigerias-gutter-media-misconstrued-the-yerima-underage-marriage-senate-proceeding/#axzz2ZbUrz0dG

those making noise about all this are anti islam. ur hatred will consume you............up yarima.......
Politics / How Nigeria’s Gutter Media Misconstrued The Yerima “underage Marriage” Senate Pr by Salym(m): 3:00pm On Jul 21, 2013
NewsRescue- It is not unusual for Nigeria’s media, which consists of many highly unprofessional scripters, to present junk and trash for public consumption. NewsRescue was created among other things, for this very purpose. Cleaning a filthy and propagandist, dangerous media.

Here are the facts of the senate proceedings in question:
The topic voted on in the senate was not, “age of marriage,” as it has been made to appear.
The presentation by senator Yerima, was not, the age a woman should marry.
35 Nigerian senators who voted against the deletion of the segment, did not vote for age of marriage, rather they voted to uphold women’s unaleniable rights, even over men.
Senator Yerima did not introduce any thing new, rather he simply pointed out in upholding Nigeria’s constitution, that segments can not simply be deleted without proper vote and due process.
And finally, underlined: the segment to be deleted threatened to deprive women of their rights.
We proceed to review the section 29 of the constitution that was to be deleted without proper process:
Citizenship renunciation Rights
(1) Any citizen of Nigeria of full age who wishes to renounce his Nigerian citizenship shall make a declaration in the prescribed manner for the renunciation.
(2) The President shall cause the declaration made under subsection (1) of this section to be registered and upon such registration, the person who made the declaration shall cease to be a citizen of Nigeria.
(3) The President may withhold the registration of any declaration made under subsection (1) of this section if-
(a) the declaration is made during any war in which Nigeria is physically involved; or
(b) in his opinion, it is otherwise contrary to public policy.
(4) For the purposes of subsection (1) of this section.
(a) “full age” means the age of eighteen years and above;
(b) any woman who is married shall be deemed to be of full age.
It is immediately seen from the above, that the section deals with conditions under which a Nigerian citizen is considered eligible to make a declaration to revoke his citizenship. “full age” to denounce/revoke/renounce Nigerian citizenship is used in reference to being allowed to make decisions, including this revocation. For both sexes, “full age” is 18 and above, however according to this section of the constitution, a woman is given greater and exclusive rights and authority, being regarded of “full age” to make decisions as serious as the revocation of her citizenship, once she is married.

When we think of what the Nigerian feminist forum created a petition to contest, it is very scary. They acted “hormonally,” without even taking a read of the constitutional segment in discussion. This constitutional permission, actually safe-guards women’s rights by allowing for instance, a married woman or girl, who feels cheated or otherwise deprived by Nigeria, the right to denounce her citizenship. This section is not related to and does not address what age a woman can marry.
NewsRescue-My Thoughts On ‘Child’ Marriage

It simply addresses what age a woman is eligible to make full fledgeling decisions, which of course can include divorce. If this section was deleted, then if for instance a 16 year old is married, she will not be considered “of age,” to challenge the marriage in court, or to revoke her citizenship if she wishes to seek asylum via the United Nations, or to any single citizenship nation. Such married young woman will have to wait and bear the pain till she is 18.

Senator Yerima had pointed out, that in Islam, once a woman is married, she is automatically of age to make all adult life decisions, including the right to divorce, this is as obtains in Nigeria’s constitution. Only the 35 senators listed below, voted to uphold these fundamental women’s rights of age unlimited choice, including the choice to denounce citizenship:

Sadly, it is evident that many of Nigeria’s senators are slightly more than barely literate and the Nigerian press is no better. See error and daft journalism in Punch, AllAfrica, Dailypost, Naij, SaharaReporters, to point out a few irresponsible editorials.

Quoting other sources:

2. CITIZENSHIP
The Section 26 of the 1999 Constitution defines who is a Nigerian citizen and how same may be acquired by naturalization and by registration. The Constitution makes no provision for the process by which non-Nigerian men married to Nigerian women and who are so desirous, may become Nigerian citizens. The silence here has continued to wreck untold hardship on the stability of many marriages.

Furthermore, section 29(4) (b) of the constitution provides for the renunciation of citizenship and thus allows an under aged woman to revoke her citizenship even when she has not attained the age of majority or the constitutional voting age. http://gtdn..com/2010/01/gender-gaps-in-nigeria-constitution.html

Ayo Turton, a US based lawyer explains the same:
Ayo Turton is a USA based lawyer
The clause that is really causing this unnecessary hullabaloo is Section 29 (4) (b). That clause has always been part of our laws, but the Senate moved to remove it as infringing on child’s right by making every married woman an adult. At the taking of the vote for the first time, they got two-third to remove it from the Constitution. But Yerima stood up and whipped up religious sentiment by galvanizing his Muslim brothers who ignorantly believed him into action. When the peace was threatened, David Mark, the Senate President capitulates and asked that the vote be taken again, at this point they were no longer able to garner two-third votes to remove the provision from the Constitution, so it remains.

Now to the legal issue: Section 29 (4) CLEARLY states: “for the purposes of subsection 1″ Section 29 subsection (1) CLEARLY states: “Any citizen of Nigeria of full age WHO WISHES TO RENOUNCE HIS NIGERIAN CITIZENSHIP (emphasis mine) shall make a declaration in the prescribed manner for the renunciation”

This is called “narrow definition” Subsection (1) narrowly defined under what circumstances the definitions stated at clauses (a) and (b) would be applicable. Therefore clauses (a) and (b) of section 29 (4) are only relevant to “renunciation of citizenship” alone. What made this clearer and should leave no one in doubt is the fact that clause 29 (4) (a) re-emphasized that “full age” shall be 18, but if you are already married, for the purposes of renunciation of citizenship you shall be automatically qualified to do so even if you are not 18 yet. Because you are deemed of “full age” for renunciation reason based on the unambiguous definition given by subsection 29 (1) In any case S. 29 (4) (b) is referring to someone already married not about-to-marry.

As a matter of fact, if you ask me, the Constitution as it is, threatens Yerima status than support it.

Posted by Myne Whitman, Romance meets life
Yerima and The Nigerian Senate Did Not Change The Age of Marriage
…In conclusion, it is said that a large number of Nigerians don’t really know the law or their rights, and I think the lawmakers fall into this category. Those who pushed to delete section 29(4)(b) did it on the grounds that it contradicts 29(4)(a) and infringes the right of a child by allowing early marriage. I think otherwise. I believe section 29(4)(b) of the constitution deals with the age of a woman after the fact of marriage, and what rights she has at that time.

http://newsrescue.com/how-nigerias-gutter-media-misconstrued-the-yerima-underage-marriage-senate-proceeding/#axzz2ZbUrz0dG

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NYSC / Re: Mild Riot In The NYSC Jos Camp by Salym(m): 8:32pm On Jul 19, 2013
they should be allowed to redeploy if they so wish........
NYSC / Re: Two Female Corpers Set Ablaze In Rivers State by Salym(m): 8:24pm On Jul 19, 2013
Desric: If all these things had happened in the North, I think the story, headlines, publicity, and polticisation will be quite different from what we seeing and hearing now. I think our problem is not really our leaders after all, our problem is simply ourselves for allowing nepotism and hypocrisy take over our conscience. Until we see ourselves as Nigerians and not Northern, Southern, Muslim or Christian, our problem will still be far from solved. My heart goes out to the affected corpers as well as I will still warn them to desist from any act that could jeopardise or risk their life wherever they are posted because sometimes our youths acts very irrational even though I condemn the act in its totality as no aggression whatsoever should have warranted such actions and wickedness against anyone.

thank you jare! nobody has linked their act to Christianity, had it been it happened in the north, the thread would have been full of abuse to Islam and Muslims....Bloody HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

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