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ibechris:
How much should a man have to be free from poverty?

Just give me ur own fair judgement?

Here are helpful tips.

- Start from at least 150k. This means 40k can go for food, 20k saving for emergencies, while investing 90k on poverty eradication projects.

- None or one child. Usually, poverty start setting in with the arrival of a child because your wife isn't working (except she had an online business), while you spend more taking care of mother and child. What if you are also paying for house rent? Remember, a self-contain maybe a big no for a nursing mother. Soon, child is about to start school. That means, more spending. Ultimately, more strain on income, less savings, postponing the date for your deliverance from poverty.

- If married, both of you must be productive. Get to know how your wife spends her money. Both of you must be intentional about investing in the family you are building together. You guys must take your eyes off family problems. Remember, family problems doesn't finish. Don't allow any child to stay with you in the name of helping in the house. You don't have the resources for that yet. Let every child stay with their parents.

- Work both day and night; online and offline. Reduce sleep to 4-5 hours for the next 6 months. You won't die.

- If you have a family house, stay there even with your 150k so you can save money to build your own.

- Reduce spending on food. Feeding consumes a lot. Try to buy foodstuff in packs/bulk and from the village, especially garri, beans, yam, or rice. Tea with bread and akara in the morning, solid food in the evening. No lunch. Have fridge to store cooked food.

- Think about having a house - personal or commercial. I prefer commercial.

- Start building. Throw your savings there instead of keeping it in the bank.

- Decorate your hard work with prayers. It's not all up to you, and it's not all up to God or anything you worship.

- Be kind. Not necessarily about giving money but simple acts of kindness like helping a child cross the road, or paying 100 naira transport for someone who genuinely needs the help. Look out for people who genuinely needs the help you can give.

- Don't gamble or spend on frivolities, e.g., drinking, womanizing, etc.

So, if you have all these in place, sooner or later, you'll bury poverty.

Reussite:
I know you are selling it but I want to know how much you got it at the time it was bought? & if the butane gas is not a scam. I know why I am asking pls.

You seriously want him to answer that?

tommy589:
How sure are you that the comfortable position you aspire to have before raising a family, which you finally achieved at a much older age is going to be permanent in the course of the marriage? Real life situation don't work like that. What is good for Tom maybe bad for Harry.

Not that I am religious but I read Bible a lot. And the part I like most is Ecclesiastics. I made practical steps with some of the chapters I read and it worked for me.

Though by nature I don't run away from responsibilities,maybe that's why verses I read worked for me. Most importantly,I did not marry lazy women

Ecclesiastes 4: 9-12
“Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their labor: if either of them falls down, one can help the other up. But pity anyone who falls and has no one to help them up. Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm. But how can one keep warm alone?

The ending part of your comment makes me to laugh

By the way, I've used the word "ambition" in my writeup. If two of you are ambitious and working hard, fine. However, it's still a big risk and I won't advise anyone to take it.

I understand that some young people rush into marriage to have legal sex and not necessarily because they are fit for it. Sadly, the moment kids start coming without adequate preparation, the whole thing becomes a rat race; hand to mouth, and working to feed and pay children school fees. That's not life.

The Bible isn't encouraging irresponsibility so don't quote it wrongly. There must be a right time for everything. Besides, that scripture has always been there. So, why didn't you marry as a child? You see what I mean?

mariahAngel:
Hahahahahaha
Mostly due to impatience.

Do you know that it's easier to get most people to read by writing several short pieces, than one long piece?

I like when a story is complete.

Very true @bolded. They like you drag them around instead of just dropping everything at once.

jmoore:
That will not give you immunity.
You forged your NYSC certificate.

He probably went to beg Tinubu to intervene, meanwhile both of them are going.

Blackmoran:
Nice write up.. Really agree with you with most of your submission especially the part you said young guys and men should avoid having children if they are not financially stable..

On the other hand next time you typing a post or a story/article please pay key point in summarizing it... 80 percent of people on social media don't have the patience of reading.......

Lol. I'll try sha.

Seriously, I don't know why our people are always in a haste and don't like reading.

Fun fact: Did you know that if you begin to read and write well, you can't be poor?

Sharpsharp00123:
y not summarize your epistle

U dey practice how to write project ?

I'm a writer. When I want to write, I can't squeeze it. E pele!

Earlier today, I read a story about a young man whose dad sold his gallons of palm oil to solve some problems in the family. I was sort of smiling within me because his story reminded me about how my dad reacted when my eldest sister spent the money he saved with her for my school fees.

On the thread, I could read some comments attacking the guy because to them he's a bad son. Meanwhile, if the table should turn, I don't think same dad would be a good dad. The fact is that poverty is a very big enemy. One that every young man should defeat before building a family. It has nothing to do with same blood or outsiders. It'll make enemies out of you guys.

Once poverty establishes itself in the family, everyone is on their own; every member of the family fights to deliver themselves first. And for the guy whose story hits the front page, I don't really blame him about the way he felt with his people selling his palm oil. Poverty kills bond, regardless of how the other person relates to you. Sometimes, you can even choose to bond more with outsiders because you feel they can help you or you can work out something meaningful with them.

Now, back to my story and why I said I don't really blame that guy. I was a teenager then and staying with my sister who had brought me to the city. Probably, my father had abandoned me to her and wasn't ready to contribute to my school fees or upkeep again. So, my sister was paying my fees in the university but it was tough for her that year. She was also giving me transport to&fro school everyday, paying course registrations, buying textbooks, etc., but she wasn't doing too well either. Meanwhile, my dad had given her money to save for him. He had sold his palm oil which he stored in drums. Earlier, my sister had talked to him about my fees and he said there was no money. Every weekend, I'd go to the village to help him but the man wasn't considering that. Even the palm oil that he claimed was all his,' I entered the bush with him to harvest them. I worked with him to processed and take them to faraway mill even while I wasn't there with him again.

Finally, my sister took 40k from his money without telling him and gave to me to settle my fees. Later, she told him about it and the man was mad at my sister. For a long time, he was very angry, but my sister wasn't having his time or planning to refund him. She only told him, "I took your money to pay your son's school fees and you can ask him how much I gave to him." Man was angry but we all ignored him, afterall, he' wasn't even staying with us in the city. Probably, he moved on from the grudge after a long time.

Looking back today, I can say my sister did far more than my parents to raise me. She would complain when I ask for money, but eventually she'll help me to sort myself. In my 300L, I got a job and left her. Since I've been on my own. God bless her for me.

Why am telling my story? It's easy to blame that guy for being a bad son, but do you think his dad would sell his stuff to help him? I doubt.

Don't mind these African fathers, especially when poverty sets in. They don't fu*kin' care. Sometimes, they try to sell the little asset of the family and tell you it's their own. Only the moms try to help but many times, they can't because they don't have, but they show concern better than the man.

To end my story, I'll advise every young man to perish the idea of raising a family until they have defeated poverty. Even if you have to hit 40 before settling down, bear with yourself. I keep telling people that I don't see anything wrong with a dad being 70 and the child is 30. Even a 20 yo can comfortably take care of themselves with the right parenting. On the flip side, I don't know what's wrong with girls of these days. They just believe in a man foolishly thinking that one day a certain miracle will happen and they'll be rich. If I were a woman, I won't marry any struggling man, especially the type that's not ambitious. Girls, please, learn to insist on contraceptive during sex. No be only una lovemaking or fu*k dey sweet. Stop swelling the poverty index of Nigeria. You'll be shocked that 80% family problems is because of poverty.

A poor girl + a poor man is a very deadly combo. Your guys life would be a waste after marriage. Your poverty status will swell up. Even your children may turn out to be a waste. Poverty would scatter the family and make everyone to stay on their own.

Beware!

michlins:
Honestly I don't know how to help you. This whole thing is not straight. Your dad was under immense pressure meanwhile this is your life savings and investments.

But here's what I can tell you,if your brother had died, you will still sell the kegs, and it won't be enough to bury him.


Just find a way to move forward with your wife but no matter what you do, do not marry yet. Don't let the frustration push you into the hands of a woman cause you will be extending this poverty to your own kids

I so love this counsel. Nothing gives joy in this life like defeating poverty else nothing in this life can make sense to you.

izonborn098:
One of the reasons i get only single moms and enjoying life with my beautiful kids.
Allow her to get pregnant or carry ur child before marriage, imagine u just feed her for 5 good years without any gain.
I don't have time to waste my cash on any useless woman in the name of wedding.

You are a very terrible human being. I doubt if you can raise a responsible child. You think it's all about having children right? Wait till you can raise them well and they grow up and take care of you.

Bonjelomo:
Stop making excuses for crime. Evil should be condemned! Dassol!!

What excuse exactly am I making? Don't you understand simple English? I said every evil has a cause and hers is beyond recognition from JAMB as the highest scorer in the exam. At least what she scored in the exam should be sufficient for her course of study.

Bonjelomo:
Go and listen to the Jamb rep. He said it very clear

Well, I've swallowed all the defense I attempted for her. Her case is only one that reminds us that we shouldn't trust anything in this world.

However, I'm of the position that there's something that pushed her to pull this stunt, which isn't necessarily about the recognition. The matter is still breaking.

End the relationship.

Sirmuel1:
450k is huge, especially in this country.

My advice is for you to learn how to save.

Cut down your expenses, don’t spend recklessly, don’t compete with co-workers and don’t try to impress anybody (including women).

Rent an affordable apartment, start up a business.

(Don’t start building any house immediately, because it’s a liability). It will only tie your wealth in one spot.

Imagine building a house with 30-50m in Lagos, only to get at least 2m yearly as a rent. How long will it take to get back the capital

A House is a long term investment + retirement plan.

Start a business first!

Have you forgotten they are people who only build, put like 10M naira on top and sell the house?

Ebubu2:
Well deserved

All his policies will thus favor Nigeria

Like removal of fuel subsidy that was feeding all of West Africa

The removal is now feeding you abi? Mumu man!

ManWater:
I still can't fathom why any sensible girl will fake her JAMB result to have the HIGHEST SCORE. Highest score that will easily attract nationwide publicity & also attract the attention of JAMB to come & easily expose it as fake.
&she still went ahead to protest to Anambra Education Commissioner that Jamb didn't recognise her fake highest score.

It's practically impossible to do all these, without getting caught.
It's like stealing an expensive rough diamond, & later come out to brag that you own the most expensive diamond necklace in the country.

If she was involved in the fake, then she must be very foolish/insensible. &not owning up yet implies a hardened criminal.
Else she may just be an innocent victim of a fraudulent JAMB result scheme or JAMB system glitch.

Had same reasoning but some people here were labeling me Igbo.

It's either she's innocent or a hardened criminal. I'll prefer an independent investigator to handle the case.

Bonjelomo:
Airtel released forensic report on her sim card of her she was editing her results and resending it to the sender USSD code...yet she is "innocent"?

Does Airtel have any issues with her?

Can you point me to any source of this information?

jmoore:
This has turn to iberibe.

This easy fraud that doesn't take 5 minutes to detect is what they are setting up committee of professors.


They should allow this case to die.

That result is FAKE.

Ask yourself, how will that poor girl wants to fake her scores to make it the highest in the country and then take same result to the government? Who does that? Is it a goat that gave birth to her? Let's calm down in this matter, please. I strongly doubt she forged that result. Remember, she has acted innocently throughout.

Meanwhile, the score she had, I strongly believe was enough for her course of choice. So, why want to fake her result when she's scored high already? I can tell you that no child is desperate to be number one in JAMB in the whole country. Instead, they strive to score to make it enough for their course of study. So, let's be careful about how we approach this matter.

kingthreat:
You people are horrible. So in order to defend one girl, you all are ready to throw a reputable educational institution to the Mud. You did the same thing with INEC and are willing to do same with any other thing. The sooner you get it in your thickhead, that "No tribe in Nigeria is greatest amongst the others" the better. That is why politically, you have been unable to find your bearing since independence.

You are talking sh!t. Which educational institution is reputable? And you are bringing INEC in here? Hahaha

Reputable nonsense! INEC of nonsense.

I strongly believe this girl's issue is a case of mismanagement of technological architecture. JAMB were too fast to condemn her meanwhile the problem came from them.

Most likely, the girl didn't forge her result and didn't also score that high, but because JAMB don't know what they are doing, they messed up the whole system. Their database management system is poor, unstable, and now throwing up random scores to the students.

As a result, the girl is right with claiming that score whether she scored it or not. At least, she didn't forge it.

bigtt76:
So wrong how JAMB is treating this case and they might end up paying for damages. They need to audit their platforms to make sure the glitch wasn't from them. The affected student too ...can she come out with her chest that she could've scored that much in the exam? I am not doubting her abilities but if she can then she should pursue this to letter. She's too naive to have done all she's being accused of.

Most likely, she didn't score that high, but at the same time, she didn't forge that result. In any case, the girl is right. JAMB should own up that their system is flawed.

dominique:
The girl actually looks nerdy and innocent. She doesn't look like someone that will willingly or knowingly forge results. I hope she doesn't get penalized over something she knows nothing about

JAMB or any authority in Nigeria can't do sh!t to her. Worse come to worst, she leaves the sh!thole to go study abroad.

God1000:
It seems JAMB has jumped the gun on this issue, they should have waited for the outcome of the DSS investigation before coming out with such statement.


Something isn't right if she truly printed her result from jamb website

I wholeheartedly believe her

Same here bro. I wholeheartedly believe that girl. When it comes to tech, our authorities are always doing nonsense. From police, immigration, navy to army recruitment or nysc portal, it has always been nonsense as though we don't have people that can design good websites or handle database systems. The result may not be the girls' but I strongly believe she didn't forge it.

immortalmortal:
Local cults have taken over that area

My people can't sleep at night. My old dad would be shaking as though he wants to inherit the earth

The curfew is welcomed.

allen113:
How Corp members serving in Oban Akamkpa 2 wan take go Calabar now if them wan travel?

Nawa ooh

That depends on where you are coming from. If you get to Calabar in the evening, spend your night there and continue your journey the following day.

thinkmoney:
Because I didn’t put chapters and verses to it abi? Lol...
Just in my last response alone, I mentioned the event to you at Genesis 3:20.

So? How does this verse links to your argument?

I also showed you the idea that is in Deuteronomy 22:5

Are the girls wearing male trousers? Are girls' trousers made for men? The verse is very clear. Anyone can differentiate between a male and female trouser. So, what's your argument?


and 1 Corinthians 6:20 (“glorify God in your body”).

Oh! Does it mean wearing trouser can't allow one to glorify God again? Make me understand, please.

And when I quoted that “there are clouds of witnesses around us” I was almost quoting directly Hebrew 12:1.

So? By cloud of witnesses, what do you think the verse is referring to?

By the way, the verse 2 says, looking unto Jesus the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising shame, and hath sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

It never said, looking unto your neighbor or someone beside you that may cause you to derail. It said, looking unto Jesus. Bro, learn to look unto Jesus for all you do. Let Jesus alone be your judge. Stop behaving like you are God assistant and passing judgment as you wish when you don't fully understand what you are saying.

thinkmoney:
Because I didn’t put chapters and verses to it abi? Lol...
Just in my last response alone, I mentioned the event to you at Genesis 3:20. I also showed you the idea that is in Deuteronomy 22:5 and 1 Corinthians 6:20 (“glorify God in your body”).
And when I quoted that “there are clouds of witnesses around us” I was almost quoting directly Hebrew 12:1.

My friend, your argument and response hasn’t evidently shown that you are being guided by the Bible. This mean you are most likely not a Christian... maybe only Christian in name.

To rest this it might be that you are in the wrong place and reacting to the wrong issue. This issue is for Christians and people that are ready to accept in FULL bibles regulations and definitions.

The judge has spoken. The man that invented Christianometer has spoken.

This sh!t you feel is your strength is rather your fall. I see your type everyday. Holier than thou yet knows nothing.

thinkmoney:
I advice you go back to the Bible and get to know what we came here to do and our final destiny really.
You have referred to our dressing standard and even sexual orientation as though it is not something Bible defines and regulate. You are either ignorant or lying as I will point to you that God actually through the Bible regulates our dressing by two/three standards;
1. It was in the beginning in Eden that God actually fist start to define and regulate dressing standards. The standard God set there was that clothings must cover. God replaced the clothes our first parent made with leaves with that made of animal skins.
2: God enjoins us to dress in a way that we won’t be mistaken to other sex or people that the world sees as belong to some culture with ungodly vices.
3: this encapsulate everything, and it is that our conduct and clothing must glorify God “FOR THERE ARE CLOUD OF WITNESSES AROUND US.”

You remember I said at the very beginning that I do not know your religion but then you boasted that the Bible regulates you. But this hasn’t been evident in your argument. I have made in all my response references to Bible events and even quoted Bible, and you haven’t been able to fault any of this. But you on the other hand, have hardly made reference to anything from the Bible. One can conclude that you are not really being regulated by the Bible but by human (limited and deficient) wisdom and traditions.
You have even gone 180 degrees by going against your advice not to judge by directly judging me and falsely saying that ‘me and people like me’ define dressing standards and condemn people.
Dressing like gay issue has been refined and regulated by the Bible. And I have all the while shown you this

Which Bible ref have you made in this comment? You've not shown me sh!t.

thinkmoney:
I like the way you started that you are regulated by the Bible. The Bible have one message. Our interpretation isn’t the Bible message . We must constantly look at our interpretation and constantly a check and ensures it always in tandem with the Bible. We should even adjust our interpretations in the light of better understanding.
Imports too, the Bible ask us not to Judge.
Those skirt like dress or clothes looking like gowns in those day were the acceptable way of dressing for that time (remember I said in my first reaction that we should be careful about how people judge at a time or age). Still even then, men’s clothing were easily recognizable and differentiated from womens. I am not against trousers as their are trousers that a guy wouldn’t wear without looking odd as people generally at this time recognize it to mean it’s a ladies trousers. In this vein, my associating some particular dressing to yahoo yahoo people it’s not just me it is how the general recognize it at this time...{I had to break}... we shouldn’t pretend like we don’t know this kind of dressing.
Moses was mistaken for an Egyptian by the midianites because of the way he dressed. It was not the personal interpretation of the observers then, people generally then as they would now know how Egyptians dress.
God should be glorified in our conducts as well as clothing. If somebody that dresses ok is bad in character then that person has only scored 50 over 100 it’s the same way has person that dresses badly but has good character

Is it God that defines the dressing standard? Nope! But you and people like you - you define it, condemn, and judge others that don't fall into your definition. That's wrong. How did this whole thing started? It started just like the issue of gay and related stuff today. World people pushed for a certain way of life until they made it standard for them and then judge others that don't adjust to their standard.

What's God's standard? Godly morals! Once you have them in your heart and allow them lead you, you don't have a problem. However, you will also have to factor in the law of the land in that area. If the law condemns it, then you'll be punish by the law if the keepers of the law comes for you. But being punished by the law doesn't mean God is condemning you.

By the way, what's 50/100 abeg, when heaven is the goal? Tell me, who among the two set of people can make heaven?

thinkmoney:
I don’t know your religion but what Bible teaches is that our worship of God is more than a personal thing... it is a worship that is regulated by the Bible and that place high importance on our consideration of what others think about us (yes really! As a Christian we have to be concerned about what others think about us)
In the Bible we are enjoined not to conform to the WORLD. As a Christian we should be careful of what people at a particular time judge to be things of the world.
If the Bible say that during prayers women should cover their heads especially women with shaven heads, then women should. The Bible explains that this token shows they know their position and its respect even to angels.
We should also be careful not to dress in a way people can mistake us to yahoo yahoo people. Yes that’s Christianity

I'm a Christian sir, and the Bible is my guide. Let me stress it again, by personal relationship, I mean worshiping God based on your understanding of God with the Bible as your guide, and not because of how others do it or make you do. Meanwhile, there are different stages in the life of a typical Christian. You can't look at someone and begin to judge them when you don't know the level of the person's understanding of the Scripture. Everyone can't reason like you.

The Biblical Moses, John, Jesus, and the rest of them wore something like skirts, gowns, and sandals that appear like female stuff of today. Would you condemn them today? Why condemn others when God doesn't condemn them? By the way, the so-called yahoo yahoo style of dressing is your own definition. You classify their dressing. You are the one referring to it as a sort of yahoo yahoo style of dressing and not God.

There are people who dress like Angels to church but their words and actions that express the position of their heart are evil. Would you say such people are also Christians? On the other hand, those you may see as dressing like yahoo yahoo boys are kind and very clean in their heart towards the things of God, but on the outside, you've judged them because of their dressing. This is the confusion rocking the church today because of Christianity of the senses.

I'm not in any way supporting bad dressing or behavior, but I'm saying, don't judge anyone. Don't see the people in that class as not being good Christians. Don't classify them. Words and actions, which express the position of the heart are the only things one can try to use and say something about another. I use the word try because everyone is subject to change. You'll be shocked that even an evil person can make heaven through a 30 seconds change of mind/heart towards God before their death, but you that have been talking about God all through your life end up in hell because you feel it was about your outward expressions.

Don't allow the actions or words of others influence how you worship God. Like I said earlier, our walk with God is a personal race. If you like, allow people to dictate how you respond to God. That's your business. But one thing you can never know is how those people close their account with God before they transit from this side of life.

cc: Reality3080

thinkmoney:
We serve God in example more than in the heart

Through our words and actions, God knows who is His own.

Whether you wear trouser, leave your head open or cover it with scarf, God knows those that are worshiping Him in Spirit and in truth. I hate it when people try to point out or try to castigate the action of others because of their own definition of serving God. Sometimes, they even allow others influence how they respond to God. Meanwhile, your worship or service to God is a highly personal thing.

Ilamina:

People as black as this ought not to wear dark colors.