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OYAY:
Scholar8200 you really shows your depth of the scripture and knowledge about God as Johnydon22 and theatheist101 are looking at God's working principle literarily;God sometimes work in a way that is beyond human comprehension take the case of of israelites walking on a dry land in the red sea and Jesus walking on the sea! It is the holy spirit that explains God's way to human hence he said in John4:23-24 that those that will worship him will does so in spirit and the truth. So his way is not man way,hence some things look impossible before man but easily possible with God.

Thanks for your input.

johnydon22:
So i just read about the sloth bear and it never told us if the attack happened in one single strike. . . it never stipulated if the attacks happened through out the duration of it's life before it was finally shot by Kenneth Anderson...

Now the elisha bears mauled 42 boys dead in one single fatal strike (event) that is 21boys for each bear? And someone believe this? Like WTF

I removed the Sloth bear story since the timing was not specified.

johnydon22:
Lmao... And a scenario were 1man overpowered and escaped from 7 men, who doesnt see that shiit everyday. is now likened to one were 42boys are being mauled by just 2bears who supposedly acting under the influence of preternatural ability that somehow made them superspeed enough to maul down 42boys, and the boy was supposed have stood there and watched?. . .

For crying out loud their is no way these boys would have stood there and watched, how exactly can 2 bears tie down 42boys from escaping them.

On the contrary, the seven men fled unclad from the possessed man who had overpowered them.

johnydon22:
Lmao... And a scenario were 1man overpowered and escaped from 7 men, who doesnt see that shiit everyday

It was the 7 men , not the possessed man, that ran away naked after being dealt with by the possessed man.

johnydon22:
And so the bears acting under preternatural influences had the speed of light that enabled them get 42, how come they never got all of them then or are the other boys not under the curse too?

It is very clear that 42boys wouldn't stick around for some bears to maul them, in fact a commotion will even make things harder for the bears as the boys would all scatter in different directions.

For one man overpowering 7, am sure the verse never said he overpowered 42 or mauled them. . . Just escaped them and fled the house. . How would you reconcile this with 2 bears mauling 42children

He did not maul them; he overwhelmed them. Note the violence displayed by the two examples given. The stones and natural strength of animals exceed that of man how much more when preternatural influences are involved.

johnydon22:
I used the language standing in line to show the blatant implausibility of the story.. their is no way 42kids will stand and watch bears take them up to the count of 42.

@bolded. . . really and 42boys were petrified somehow, am sure you forgot to add parasympathetic reflex, that can induce an escape in dire danger without the individual being fully aware of how he managed to escape.

Even the speed of light is not a enough to give two bears ability to kill 42 kids in a strike. .

Consider the unusual state of creatures when they are under preternatural influences just like the bears that were actually stirred by the same forces after the curse was declared:
1. Acts 19:14 Seven sons of Sceva, a leading priest, were doing this. 15 But one time when they tried it, the evil spirit replied, “I know Jesus, and I know Paul, but who are you?” 16 Then the man with the evil spirit leaped on them, overpowered them, and attacked them with such violence that they fled from the house, naked and battered.
This is one man (under preternatural influence) against 7 full grown men.

2. Luke 8:33
Then went the devils out of the man, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the lake, and were choked.

cosiocan:
What exactly is a Spirit? According to the Strong’s
Concordance, along with many other Greek
Dictionaries, a spirit is a “mind.” When God sent
forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, He was
sending the mind, or thinking of His Son into our
hearts. God asks us to “Let this mind be in you,
which was also in Christ Jesus.” (Philippians 2:5) The
mind, or Spirit, that Christ had was the Spirit of His
Father. “For he whom God hath sent speaketh the
words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by
measure unto him.” (John 3:34) Let us examine what
the Bible says about a spirit.

Then explain Acts 13:2 One day as these men were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Dedicate Barnabas and Saul for the special work to which I have called them.

johnydon22:
First the story in 2 Kings 2:23-25 never stipulated the number of kids allegedly calling Elisha baldy. . . Am sure we all know you actually are the one assuming a higher number so as to throw in the commotion saga.

2.) Their is no way 2 bears can maul 42 boys even if there was a commotion unless of course the bears possessed the speed of light making them able to kill faster than normal.

Let me quote the op
When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number This shows 42 of a larger number.

johnydon22:
So you are meaning to tell me that you actually believe 2 bears can kill 42 boys. . .

Yes.If you consider the scenario very well. The way you used the phrase,"standing in line" suggests that you visualize the situation as a sober, orderly queue of offenders,each patiently waiting for his turn! Have you heard of fear that petrifies its victims?(And this was worse in a commotion.) Remember, a curse exposes its victim to demonic operations chief of which is fear.

theAtheist101:
What did the curse inflict? Be careful not add your own thoughts to the Bible! Then how vulnerable were the children that they watched how just two bears killed 1, then 2, 3,..., 41 of them. The boys are even in a better position to kill the bears with either stones or sticks, since they had an edge in numbers.

If the highlighted be true then it further explains why some of them died: they thought they could fight back. They were more than 42. A wild commotion is known to immobilise some weak ones who are run over by their fellows trying to flee.

johnydon22:
So the curse made them stand in line while two bears came out from the bush and mauled them one after the other.?

Not necessarily stand in line? Female animals have a seemingly stronger version of ferocity; the uproar and confusion caused should also be considered. Also note that the lads were more than 42, others managed to escape. Besides, the bears did not go after them as a result of hunger, they were mainly to kill. Moreover, if you consider the fact that a curse operates like letting loose the hordes of hell against a person(s), you will realise that this was not an act carried out in the zoo, but a wild, petrifying commotion that leaves vulnerable people at a disadvantage.

theAtheist101:
... because he (god) has poor judgement just like most men that lived 2000 years ago.

Your main question should be: How did just two bears kill 42 (!) young boys? Where they all crippled?

The authors of the Bible are the masters of all liars!

Elisha did not primarily call for bears;he cursed them! That's where the issue is. Why would Balak go all out to get Balaam to curse Israel b4 confronting them in battle, in spite of the fact that they were inexperienced, liberated slaves? The curse was to bring them to a point of chronic vulnerability. The same thing here.

Matthew 10: 19,20 hear Jesus speaking-
19 But when they deliver you up, do not be anxious about how or what you are to speak; for what you are to say will be given you in that very hour and [f]moment,

20 For it is not you who are speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you. This is still referring to the Holy Spirit

John 1:32,33
32 John gave further evidence, saying, I have seen the Spirit descending as a dove out of heaven, and it dwelt on Him [never to depart].
[The Spirit descended on Jesus Christ after baptism-Two Persons here!]

And I did not know Him nor recognize Him, but He Who sent me to baptize [j]in (with) water said to me, Upon Him Whom you shall see the Spirit descend and remain, that One is He Who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.
Jesus is the One that baptizes with the Holy Spirit


You need to understand that just as Jesus did not come in His Own Name but that of the Father, the Holy Spirit also did not come in His Name but that of the Son. See the following:

John 5:43
43 I have come in My Father’s name and with His power, and you do not receive Me [your hearts are not open to Me, you give Me no welcome]; but if another comes in his own name and his own power and with no other authority but himself, you will receive him and give him your approval.

John 17:6
I have manifested Your Name [I have revealed Your very Self, Your real Self] to the people whom You have given Me out of the world.

(The Holy Spirit was sent also to reveal Jesus' Name -His Very Self both to and in the believers)

Paul alluded to this is Galatians 1:16
16 To reveal (unveil, disclose) His Son within me so that I might proclaim Him among the Gentiles (the non-Jewish world) as the glad tidings (Gospel), immediately I did not confer with flesh and blood [did not consult or counsel with any frail human being or communicate with anyone].

The Son is revealed in us by the Spirit hence it would be superficial to dwell on just the peripheral gifts, tongues etc; this was the primary purpose of the Spirit's coming.

Take note of in Whose Name the Spirit was to come:

John 14:26
26 But the Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, Standby), the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My name [in My place, to represent Me and act on My behalf], He will teach you all things. And He will cause you to recall (will remind you of, bring to your remembrance) everything I have told you.
(all quotes from AMP version)

This clarifies it. Hence the Relationship between true believers and the Spirit is no different from that that was between Christ and the 12 but in a spiritual, deeper and more intimate level.
Also see Revelations 1:4,5

4 This letter is from John to the seven churches in the province of Asia.[c]

Grace and peace to you from the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come; from the sevenfold Spirit[d] before his throne; 5 and from Jesus Christ. He is the faithful witness to these things, the first to rise from the dead, and the ruler of all the kings of the world. This two verses (from NLT) specifically points out Three Distinct Personalities!

Daseed4:
My mother groomed me well, but I had experience of newbirth during an alter call of a crusade organised by my church.

I have this perception that you allowed this to breed and build-up till now and the action of your proprietor is the last straw that broke the Camel's back; from the very first battle you experienced which you did not win, since you had the newbirth, why not go to your Father? I learnt sometimes to challenge God with what He says I am especially when current circumstances appear to contradict, and He answers.
Job 36:7-10
7 He withdraws not His eyes from the righteous (the upright in right standing with God); but He sets them forever with kings upon the throne, and they are exalted.
8 And if they are bound in fetters [of adversity] and held by cords of affliction,
9 Then He shows to them [the true character of] their deeds and their transgressions, that they have acted arrogantly [with presumption and self-sufficiency].
10 He also opens their ears to instruction and discipline, and commands that they return from iniquity.


Verse 7 describes our privilege through Christ; vs 8 shows possibility of there being contradictory circumstances not as a normal thing hence the word 'If'; Vs 9&10 shows the need for revelation on how to go about it, at such times. However this applies not only when sin is involved but when other extraneous, hidden matters are involved.

Pr0ton:
There are, also, instances where God refused to answer His prophets' prayers because they were not in line with His will:

Elijah prayed that he might die. God had much more work for Elijah to do so it was not in God's will for Elijah to die at that time. In the end Elijah didn't die but was caught up into heaven by a whirlwind. 1 Kings 19:4; 2 Kings 2: 11

Jonah prayed that God would take his life as it was better to die than to live. God did not answer his prayer probably in line with Eccl 3, "for there is a time to die and we must wait for God's timing not ours." Also, Jonah had yet to accomplish the work God sent him to do. Jonah 4:3.

There is a world of difference between supplication and commanding with authority. The former is directed to God, the latter is directed to creatures.

King Zedekiah prayed for help in defeating Nebuchadnezzar. God's answered that He would not help because of the many sins of Israel. Jeremiah 21:2

This was a king; supplication was involved.

The disciples James and John with their mother requested the highest rank in the kingdom Jesus was to establish. Jesus' answer was that this position was not His to give. But, they first were to be servants of one another before greatness would be given them. Mark 10:34-45.

Another supplication/requesting from the Lord; not a command based on authority.

Jesus prayed, "May this cup be taken from me." He also prayed, "Your will be done." It was the Father's will that Jesus drink the cup of suffering for the sins of the world. Matthew 26:36-46; Philippians 2:5-8; Hebrews 2:9; 12:2,3; 13:12,13.

Another supplication to God. He commanded the demons to come out, the waves to be still and it thus happened-that was authority!

Paul prayed that his "thorn in the flesh" be removed. Paul's thorn was not removed, so that Christ would be glorified, not himself, and to keep him from becoming proud. 2 Corinthians 12:7-10

Also supplication. The handkerchiefs from the body of the same Paul drove out unclean spirits; the devils acknowledged,"Jesus I know, Paul I know" They recognised his authority through Christ such that even aprons from him terrorised them (the devils).

So there were instances where God refused to carry out the request of His prophets, and that was, imperatively, because there were negative, which shows that God has the final say over a request.

Those, like you have rightly noted were requests not command by authority.

The same should have been done in the case with Elisha's. But God supported him, and killed 42 lads because they called Elisha baldhead (which was even the fact)

Elisha did not plead with God to kill them; he cursed them by his authority as a prophet. When Moses, disobeying God's express command, struck the Rock instead of speaking to it, water still came out but he was judged for misused authority.

Pr0ton:
This is why your answer doesn't work:

Punishment for violating the law in the OT was by stoning to death. Here is an example of a rude wayward child.

Deut 21

18 If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him,19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town.20 They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.”21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death.You must purge the evilfrom among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

Assumimg these boys violated the law, then they should have died by stoning. But this wasn't anything in connection to the law. Elisha with the support and assistance from God ordered bears to tear those lads because they (Elisha and God) chose to.

Second reason is because the lads weren't Jews, and the law could not have had effect on them. Rom 3:19 says the Law speaks to those under it. And Rom 4:16 says where there's no law, there is no sin. Hence, the lads were innocent in that aspect as they were not under the Jewish law. If we are to base on what the law says, then God and Elisha killed innocent kids.

The incident recorded took place between Jericho and Bethel (Jericho was one of the first place conquered by Joshua while Bethel was part of the lands given to Abraham hence the command to Jacob,"go up to Bethel" hence those lads were of the tribe of Israel. Stoning was the means but if that was not done, the wages of sin, death, will come some other way. Absalom was another rebellious kid who died not by stoning(he was too charismatic to have been stoned by those whose heart he stole) , but the deserved retribution of his actions caught up with him.

NumberOne2:
^^^ Thanks Scholar8200, I learnt alot.

Glory to God!

Daseed4:
Since the time I took up Christianity with all my heart in 1994, I've never won any war apart frm my mysterious graduation frm university amid non-stop sickness. Those u mentioned won some wars b4 dia tryin times.

Pls dont be offended, how exactly did you go about taking up Christianity then?

Many are the afflictions of the righteous but the Lord delivers him out of them all. There are folks who've gone through worse things but they testify to God's faithfulness today. You are obviously depressed like John the baptist was. However, denying God is not the best option. From the way you speak, it seems you believe you'd arrived at the peak of faith but you make Job's mistake; it's a journey from faith to faith. Why not set aside time to seek God concerning this? What is the cause? After an unexpected defeat, Joshua did same and it was a life saver. David also did same when a famine of three years ravaged and the cause was revealed. There is no effect without a cause. (is there not a cause?)

Many are the afflictions of the righteous but the Lord delivers him out of them all. There are folks who've gone through worse things but they testify to God's faithfulness today. You are obviously depressed like John the baptist was. However, denying God is not the best option. From the way you speak, it seems you believe you'd arrived at the peak of faith but no; it's a journey from faith to faith. Why not set aside time to seek God concerning this? What is the cause? After an unexpected defeat, Joshua did same and it was a life saver. David also did same when a famine of three years ravaged and the cause was revealed. There is no effect without a cause. (is there not a cause?)

It is unfortunate that most people who have issues with the Bible never consider the context or what was the cause of an action! They only consider the action and the only culprit they see is God.Op since you started by quoting a verse, why not quote the Two preceding and succeeding verses to the one quoted. When man makes a choice, he needs to realise that he has also chosen the consequence of that choice and this is what many are either not seeing or are refusing to see in the Bible. The Divine action stated in the verse is the consequence of a choice. Not just an arbitrary, unprovoked deed.

Please carefully consider the text you quoted. It doesnt say God killed them. But at a period under the law,the command was,
Leviticus 19:32 You shall rise up before the hoary head and honor the face of the old man and [reverently] fear your God. I am the Lord.
The lads were not infants nor toddlers
23 He went up from Jericho to Bethel. On the way, [a]young [maturing and accountable] boys came out of the city and mocked him and said to him, Go up [in a whirlwind], you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!

Elisha lived under the law (when hardness of heart was provided for) hence he, like other OT saints, replied with a curse which took effect immediately. The lads knew better and had violated the law. Hence Elisha used his authority.

In the NT, hardness of heart has no place (hence Stephen still sought forgiveness for his killers)

gatiano:
If the Torah wasn't corrupted, there won't be any need for the Gospel, If the Gospel wasn't corrupted, There won't be a need for the Quran. Quran narrowly escaped to Africa where it is kept save, however, it was still managed to be corrupted by the jews and arabs or arabs, to be sure, they established the corrupted version of Quran and fabricate lies against Muhammad. It is called the hadith. That is why God sent the last Prophet. His work again, they tried to corrupt but couldn't. We now know that man of sin called the devil(s) and satan.

There is no need for any of us to argue back and forth. Whether Solomon or Muhammad or Jesus were righteous Men of God is actually non of our concern.

"Would you say/claim that you are a believer and God won't test you?" Everyman or mankind must go through their test alone as those before us did alone.
It is simply an advice to anyone willing to listen to do their own thorough researches, findings and seek knowledge, so as not to be deceived by the ......... it can come in any form.

The Gospel was not corrupted! What is the Gospel? Let Jesus Himself answer
16 For God so greatly loved and dearly prized the world that He [even] gave up His only begotten ([d]unique) Son, so that whoever believes in (trusts in, clings to, relies on) Him shall not perish (come to destruction, be lost) but have eternal (everlasting) life.
17 For God did not send the Son into the world in order to judge (to reject, to condemn, to pass sentence on) the world, but that the world might find salvation and be made safe and sound through Him.
3 Jesus answered him, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, that unless a person is born again (anew, from above), he cannot ever see (know, be acquainted with, and experience) the kingdom of God.
34 Jesus answered them, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, Whoever commits and practices sin is the slave of sin.
36 So if the Son liberates you [makes you free men], then you are really and unquestionably free.
Freedom from slavery to sins dictates.
The writings of the prophets spoke about the New Covenant. And here it is today. There was no jot or tittle mentioned in the NT of another covenant.. The Gospel is the content of the New Covenant

gatiano:
From the Quran 6th Chapter.
6:82 Those who believe and mix not up their faith with iniquity — for them is security and they go aright.

6:83 And this was Our argument which We gave to Abraham against his people. We exalt in degrees whom We please. Surely thy Lord is Wise, Knowing.

6:84 And We gave him Isaac and Jacob. Each did We guide; and Noah did We guide before, and of his descendants, David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. And thus do We reward those who do good (to others):

6:85 And Zacharias and John and Jesus and Elias; each one (of them) was of the righteous,

6:86 And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot; and each one (of them) We made to excel the people;

6:87 And some of their fathers and their descendants and their brethren. And We chose them and guided them to the right way.

6:88 This is Allah’s guidance wherewith He guides whom He pleases of His servants. And if they had associated others (with Him), all that they did would have been vain.

Pay attention to verses 87 and 88 above.

And truely, Solomon did possess some powers, AND they were all under the guidance of god. as written in-
Surah 21:81 -82
21:81 And to Solomon (We subdued) the wind blowing violent, pursuing its course by His command to the land which We had blessed, and We are ever Knower of all things.

21:82 And of the devils there were those who dived for him and did other work besides that; and We kept guard over them:

And there are other instances in the Quran where Solomon was vindicated. You go on to check for yourself.

Solomon as powerful compare to other kngdoms and countries of His time as united states is to other countries today.
Finally, jinn, devils, are all mankind. There are no scary beast as you may be thinking, and perhaps they were, but they were all made from the genetic materials of mankind and maybe of Men too.

Well all these were written above 5 centuries after the quotes I wrote. I will rather go with those. God gave Solomon wisdom but that did not deprive the latter of freedom of choice!
See what David himself told Solomon 1 Chronicles 28:9
9 And you, Solomon my son, know the God of your father [have personal knowledge of Him, be acquainted with, and understand Him; appreciate, heed, and cherish Him] and serve Him with a blameless heart and a willing mind. For the Lord searches all hearts and minds and understands all the wanderings of the thoughts. If you seek Him [inquiring for and of Him and requiring Him as your first and vital necessity] you will find Him; but [a]if you forsake Him, He will cast you off forever!

God also told him
17 As for you [Solomon], if you will walk before me as David your father walked, and do all I have commanded you, and observe My statutes and My ordinances,
18 Then I will establish the throne of your kingdom, as I covenanted with David your father, saying, There shall not fail you a man to be ruler in Israel.
19 But if you turn away and forsake My statutes and My commandments which I have set before you and go and serve other gods and worship them,
20 Then will I pluck [Israel] up by the roots out of My land which I have given [them]; and this house which I have hallowed for My Name will I cast out of My sight, and will make it to be a proverb and a byword among all nations.

Solomon failed and judgement came . The division of the kingdom is a milestone to this.

OLAADEGBU:
If that was the case see what was recorded of Solomon in his old age:

"And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart. For it came to pass, when Solomon was old that his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father. For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father. Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon. And likewise did he for all his strange wives, which burnt incense and sacrificed unto their gods. And the Lord was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from the LORD God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice, And had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods: but he kept not that which the LORD commanded. Wherefore the LORD said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and give it to thy servant". - 1 Kings 11:3-11

Yes. I believe when the prophecy came. And when the adversaries began to fight, he was brought to his senses.

eshbeewanna:
The Holy Ghost was already with them:

True Jesus Himself said,John 14:17
17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[c] in you.
They were already acquainted with Him but He was not yet dwelling in them yet.

We read "if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you." The comforter can not be the Holy Ghost because the Holy Ghost (according to the Bible) was "with" them already (and even quite active) long before the coming of Jesus (peace be upon him) himself and then throughout his ministry.

I believe the above response clarifies this.

"Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost." (John 20:21-22)

After this Jesus still told them to,"Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about. 5 For John baptized with[a] water, but in a few days you will be baptized with[b] the Holy Spirit."

Did they or did they not already receive the Holy Ghost? Was Jesus (peace be upon him) not still with them when they received the Holy Ghost? Was the Holy Ghost not with Simeon, Mary, Elisabeth and Zacharias before the birth of Jesus (peace be upon him)? Was the Holy Ghost not with Moses (peace be upon him) when he parted the seas? There are many more similar verses to be found in the Bible. In the above verses, we are told that if Jesus (peace be upon him) does not depart then the "parakletos" will not come. Thus, the "Holy Ghost" cannot be the one originally intended since it was already with them. The contradiction is quite obvious.

The coming of the Holy Spirit in the NT(is for a higher ministry) as declared by Jesus is in accordance to the prophecy given by the Father in Ezekiel 36:27
27 And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.
This was not known to all the people of the OT.

 

A "Spirit" in the New Testament is a human Prophet.   Therefore, Jesus had predicted the comming of a human Prophet (spirit) after him and not the Holy Spirit.  Jesus would not have used the word "he" for the Holy Spirit.  He would have used "it" instead in John 14:26 above.   Read 1 John 4:1-3 below:
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world," (1 John 4:1-3)

1 John 4:2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God. Clearly shows that the focus here is the Spirit or spirits that inspire the prophet.

Kindly see 1 Corinthians 14:32
32 The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets.

Also Matthew 10:20
for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you

I believe these are clear enough.

 

There had been many cases of deliberate modification of the Biblical text by members of the Christian clergy themselves, as well as deliberate large scale projects to "correct" the Bible, and the writings of "the early fathers," (such as the deliberate insertion of the verse of 1 John 5:7 which is now universally discarded) It is, therefore, possible that either:

1) The word "Holy" could have been dropped by a careless copyist., or

2) Someone could have inserted the word "Holy" to convey his personal understanding of the text.

Besides, Jesus did not reiterate that promise in Revelations. Why? Because the Comforter, Spirit of Truth had been sent see Revelations 2:7,11 etc
7 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious
The Spirit had come and had commenced His Ministry,as Jesus promised, among the church (body of believers).

Which was it? In order to arrive at the answer we must follow the same path of detective work the Biblical scholars themselves do. We must study the characteristics of the "Paraclete" and compare them to both the "Holy Spirit" and to a "Spirit." Muslims believe that Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the one intended and not the Holy Ghost. In the Christian's own "Gospel of Barnabas" Muhammad is mentioned by name here. The Trinitarian church, however, has done its utmost to obliterate all existing copies of "The Gospel of Barnabas," and to hide it from the masses or to label it a forgery. For this reason, it becomes necessary to show that even the Gospels adopted by Paul's church also originally spoke of Muhammad (peace be upon him).

Any One coming after Jesus would come in line with the declaration Made By GOD Himself as regards the New Covenant sealed by the blood of Jesus. God had already said
Jeremiah 31:31-34
“The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to[d] them,[e]”
declares the Lord.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”

And Jesus made it clear that HE came to that effect
Matthew 26:28
28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which [[f]ratifies the agreement and] is [g]being poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

Even the Jews were awaiting this and the sincere ones knew when He came
Luke 1:72
72 To make true and show the mercy and compassion and kindness [promised] to our forefathers and to remember and carry out His holy covenant [to bless, which is [ad]all the more sacred because it is made by God Himself],

Without trying to denigrate your religion, all these are conspicuously absent. The Promise of the Spirit to indwell believers is also in line with the New Covenant. Yes Moses gave laws but Grace and Truth came by Jesus and the former and Latter acted in accordance with different Covenants. Not just laws standing aloof but as part of a covenant.

Judas2013:
No proof this character ever existed. The Jews are feeding us with Hollywood characters. No statue nor painting?

Julie's Ceaser had statues. Why couldn't the wisest man in the world?

Julius Caesar(100-44BC) lived centuries after Solomon-about 800years after!. By the way, Israel, unlike Italy was a nation that was in and out of captivity. They recently regrouped in 1948. Before each captivity, most of their memorabilias were destroyed eg
2 Chronicles 36:19,20
19 They set fire to God’s temple and broke down the wall of Jerusalem; they burned all the palaces and destroyed everything of value there.

20 He carried into exile to Babylon the remnant, who escaped from the sword, and they became servants to him and his successors until the kingdom of Persia came to power.

Judas2013:
Have been to Egypt? Ok what about the tomb of Jesus? The bible claimed there are burial tombs of the kings. Where us that located?

Note that I only mentioned Solomon's contemporaries 970-931 BC. I suggest we keep to the purpose of the thread though.

Judas2013:
Solomon never existed. If he did, where is his burial tomb?

No tribe can successfully show you the burial tomb of their ancestors that were Solomon's contemporaries.970 - 931 BC! This does not mean they didnt exist!

OLAADEGBU:
When did Solomon write this, was it when he was still young or in his old age?

At old age. The book of Ecclesiastes speaks of past actions of the preacher.