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Speechless3:
Okay i see what you are saying. Mercy beaucoup. Will study more. However, to clarify somethings i have few questions for you

Is a sinner dead in spirit?

Yes in the sense that a sinner is alienated or severed from the Life of God as Ephesians 4:18 says. Just as the body severed from the spirit is dead.

Their [e]moral understanding is darkened and their reasoning is beclouded. [They are] alienated (estranged, self-banished) from the life of God [with no share in it; this is] because of the ignorance (the want of knowledge and perception, the willful blindness) that is [f]deep-seated in them, due to their hardness of heart [to the insensitiveness of their moral nature].
Ephesians 4:18

Is repentance an act of the spirit?

Repentance is an act of the will in response to the enlightening of the mind by truth. That is why the ignorance that precedes repentance is described as darkness and blindness in Ephesians 4:18

Is believing an act of the spirit?

It involves the whole person.

Can man wake up his spirit? If not, Is it by divine intervention?

To be born again or saved is to be born of the Spirit (the Holy Spirit); but he will never be saved who never believes, and they will never believe that never heard the Gospel. Hence the new birth , being born of the Spirit, is only possible when one has chosen to open his heart to the Gospel and He that it presents. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Else, why did Jesus command a man to do what he had no power or control over? Else why will they be damned who do not believe for what they had no power or control over?

Is salvation obtained in the spirit or mind?

It involves the whole man! Romans 8:13 tells us we mortify the sinful deeds of the body by the Spirit (after we are born of the Spirit).
If we claim that only the spirit gets saved and continue in sin, Romans 8:13 and other allied passages tell us we deceive ourselves and are on the broadway that leads to hell.

Is it the mind that purifies the spirit or the spirit through the word purifies the mind?

The Spirit of God purifies our spirit , soul and body and is able, if we are willing, to preserve all blameless:

And may the God of peace Himself sanctify you through and through [separate you from profane things, make you pure and wholly consecrated to God]; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved sound and complete [and found] blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ (the Messiah).
24 Faithful is He Who is calling you [to Himself] and utterly trustworthy, and He will also do it [fulfill His call by hallowing and keeping you].
1Thessalonians 5:23,24 Amp

If dead spiritually, are one's spiritual senses dead too?

Dead to the things of God but open to demonic manipulations as Matthew 12:43-45, Ephesians 2:2 shows.

Sorry for the bother, they look interrelated.

No problem

Speechless3:
You were born the first time by your earthly parents. That was a natural occurence you didnt have control over. It simply happened.

Now you are grown and you need a second birth. There is something about the second that makes it distinct though similar in principle to the first.

The second birth requires a spiritual parent. Just one. The second must happen before you can claim to be saved. Every one experienced the first but only few (would) know the second before death. In addition, the second birth is not seen or witnessed by men but the evidence is clear to all.

Now here is the problem. The principle. Both the natural and spiritual follow this. YOU DONT KNOW WHEN, AND YOU HAVE NO CHOICE IN BOTH.

Reference: John 3.

In my personal and objective study of John 3, this is my understanding.

It is good to study the Bible; it is wrong to make claims from just one part without examining what is said by other passages on the same subject to get a view of the big picture.

If choice plays no part then what does? Divine arbitrariness? Does it mean nobody can tell where he stands till he/she dies? Does it mean God makes a person saved whether they want it or not? What purpose then serves all the exhortations and commands to repentance and righteousness?

Can you prove your conclusion from other parts of the Bible when even the Old testament was based on choice, "behold I set before you this day life.. and ...death... therefore CHOOSE life that..." Deuteronomy 30:19

You correctly said the second birth is necessary for salvation but your conclusion is unscriptural else why would:

Jesus command to, "believe and be baptised to be saved or refuse and be damned"? Both action being subject to a man's choice?
Jesus command to," repent and believe" knowing fully well that it is a choice to be made?
Peter urge his listeners on the day of pentecost to repent after they asked, " what shall we do?"
Paul urge the Corinthians to examine themselves if Christ was in them if they did not even know whether they were born of the Spirit?

Besides, there is a large difference in both births hence you need to understand on what basis both are alike. For instance, you had no form of existence(hence no will, intelligence etc) before the natural birth unlike the second birth that is preceded by an existence that is alienated from God and falls short of His Glory.

Op, what I find is a great contradiction between the Meaning of the Name Jesus and what Islam stands for in relation to sin and forgiveness. Would you mind attempting to clear our doubts in this regards?

Your conclusion is very correct.


Luke 1:17
And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the parents to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous--to make ready a people prepared for the Lord."

Meaning he will operate with the same measure of anointing of Elijah.

Another question: Which came first? The Hijab or Islam? In other words, did Arab women use the Hijab before Islam or they wear it now because Islamic teachings command it?

mind44thegoat:
From the above, can't I safely deduce that it was God trying him?
I don't have a cool phone here, so I won't quote any scriptural reference. But the old testament stated that "David was tempted by God" to...

Yes God tries our faith and HE has all things at His disposal for that purpose. Just like He tried Abraham's faith.

Let's try this perspective, who suffers us to be tempted and who does the actual tempting according to 1 Corinth 10:13?

mind44thegoat:
So tests and temptation are different?

A test may include permitting the devil to do certain things and/or tempt. Job suffered losses and was tempted by the devil through his wife. We all know the devil was behind both and that the devil could only act because God permitted him. That is why you will notice the alternative use of both words in James1:12
Blessed is the man who endures temptation, for when he has been tested, he will receive a crown of life, which God has promised to those who love him.

Pastor Kumuyi while narrating his
bitter experience said he was
settled and not afraid to die saying: “I know if anything happens, I
will go up there to meet my
Lord.” According to him, he made his
spirit to conquer.

I like the highlighted part. A true believer does not fear death but that does not mean he will go and stand in the express road! Paul, Moravians etc exuded the same assurance in the face of death!

mind44thegoat:
"... and lead us not into temptation..."
Does it imply that we can be tempted by GOD himself.

When tempted, no one should say, "God is tempting me." For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone; James 1:13

Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.
Matthew 4:1

That place you quoted underscores the fact that no natural man will ask God to try him like He did Job but sometimes, these tests are necessary.

OLAADEGBU:
But were they really casting out demons?

Well, we know what happened to the sons of Sceva who tried to. Looking at the passage, it suggests that these exorcists had other means of suppressing/appeasing the unclean spirits but they thought the use of the Name of Jesus was just an advancement is exorcist technology which they could also adopt.

Revelations 12 shows us the major purpose is expulsion and dominion and their battle is based on the positioning of the roots on either side - man! That is why the victory of the Heavenly host in Revelations 12 is linked to the faith of the saints on earth in Rev 12:11.

OLAADEGBU:
Happy New Year my brother.

Happy New year to you too.

elhakiimed:
1991 ) Matthew 10:34
"" Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth I did not come to bring peace but a sword.

correction from Quran Surah Maryam, Verse 32:
"And [made me] dutiful to my mother, and He has not made me insolent, unblessed."

I understand the Quran bids muslims seek clarifications from the Book (Bible) and not the other way round; am I correct?

lexiconkabir:
hey bro! long time no see

Indeed. I have been quite busy.

Nina4u:
An Islamic cleric living in Europe has said that women should not be close to bananas or cucumbers, in order to avoid any 'sexual thoughts'.
The unnamed sheikh was quoted by el-Sawsana news saying that if women wish to eat these food items, a third party, preferably a male relative, should cut the items into small pieces and serve.
The cleric said that these fruits and vegetables 'resemble the male penis' and could arouse women or 'make them think of sex.
No touching: Women should avoid contact with cucumbers, says an Islamic cleric
He also added carrots and courgette to the list of forbidden food for women!!!http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2011/12/11/cucumbers-too-much-for-women/

Did he say it was his opinion or was he quoting from the Quran?

https://www.facebook.com/dehab.asmara/videos/869069193148369/
(Test running a link)

chiedu7:
[size=14pt]The hand writing can belong to anybody.
The man has been in prison becos of self determination just like Nelson Mandela.


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But why the resort to invectives by him? Did Mandela do same?

Nnamdi Kanu is highly educated and showed this by starting well, registering his movement with the UN but it seems he later veered of course and chose to follow the Shekau's model of getting things done. The result? Silence from those who should have been of help.

OLAADEGBU:
God bless you for your expositions.

Amen.

dalaman:
KingEbukasBlog and Scholar8200. Please can you guys use God and the bible to explain to us why the DNA of living organisms mutate randomly sometimes?

But you dont believe in either! What's the point then?

Besides, the Bible has its purpose.

Jessicha:
The moment I saw the underlined , i knew uv been scammed .

Alright.

I like Heaven because Jesus is there and when He comes into your heart,by the Spirit, you get a foretaste, earnest of what Heaven is and how that Jesus is the Substance and Essence of the Joys of Heaven. (neither Mansions nor Street of Gold but HIM). In fact, the soul relishes things that give it pleasure though never meeting its insatiability here on Earth but I have found that the One Big Enough to satisfy the soul of man's desire for pleasure is JEsus. It is not a figure of speech that the psalmists says that ,"at His Right Hand (where Jesus sits) there are pleasures forever".

Jessicha:
Not diverted, this is where am going . John 1:2 says " this one was in the beginning With God" , this proves the person identified as the word himself is not God Almighty himself BUT was with God , you cant be with yourself !

Exactly! The Personalities are distinct but One. The Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Spirit but ,"these Three are One.

Jessicha:
Yes , changed cos u guys keep missing the point .



Good !! @ underlined , think about that before u criticize those who introduced the article "a"
At John 1:1 , the next verse already showed why ! John 1:2

And John 1:17 (Isaiah 9, Hebrews 1 etc) establishes the fact that the Word was God and is the Only Begotten! Meaning the thought and the structure of John 1:1 was contaminated by those who introduced the article there!

This is translation not transliteration. The sense and the context of John 6:70 vis a vis other parallel passages endorses the article; while the sense and context of John 1:1 vis a vis parallel passages contradicts the article 'a' in John 1:1
Going down to John 1:3, we see that creation was attributed to the Word Who Is God and this agrees with other passages eg Isaiah 40:28. Now John 1:1-3 and other passages show us a distinction of Personalities and a Oneness that is literal.
Why divert your own thread?

If you reject or neglect the Gospel because of the pleasures of sin now, forget it! You will take the Mark! 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12. The right time to get right with God is NOW!!!

Jessicha:
You are missing the point! The point is the construction of that verse .

The greek reads " one is Devil" which literally points to the Devil .

But the english translation reads " one is (a) devil" , adding article "a" and small letter "d" coz in english langugage , capital " D" refer to satan the Devil.

Which is correct , Devil or a devil ?

Ma'am, we are splitting hairs here. (noticed you've changed the topic of the thread!)


None is wrong! The next verse already shows the reason why the article had to be introduced. we are talking of the Bible being translated with respect to structure and thought and not the Bible being transliterated. They are two different things. Now let's consider the passage:

70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and [size=13pt]one of you[/size] is a devil?

71 He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being [size=14pt]one[/size] of the twelve.

John 6:70,71
I trust that verse 71 is in the original greek!

Jessicha:
Fox and vipers are names of animals pls , Greek -diabolos- at John 6:70 is the name of who in the scriptures ?

Bottom line: both names are used for creatures other than the subject (man). Hence it is still a metaphor.

That's a metaphor!

Assignment:
Was Herod a man or a fox? (Luke 13:32)
were the Pharisees humans or vipers? (Matthew 23:33)

gatiano:
African tribes and names all listed according to the links. But nothing to read about them, it didn't still say nothing about them, not on google either. The missioneries must have wiped them out (grand genocide, part of the billion of murder). But wait, Blacks are clever, They peacefully moved away and changed their names.

that is what happens when a person is filled with prejudice! Choose one!!!
Bye for now.

gatiano:
Who are the Abuabuas? Nothing about the tribe is known, They have been wiped out probably by caucasian and european christians or missionaries.

THis account is probably also writing by a caucasian symptomatic creature.

how 'fair' can you get !!! Now search and look:
http://www.aplusafricanart.com/TribeName.html

And that is how they lie, saying the blood of jesus did this and that, yet they killed him for no crime only to use his name to deceive many and changed upside down all his lessons he shared.

Would you be free from your burden of sin? There's Power in the Blood!!! What can wash away gatiano's sins? Nothing but the blood of Jesus! You see, the testimony of those men is duplicated overwhelmingly all over the world! I am a living witness too!!!

Yeshua was real, I don't doubt that, But He was so Black, that Black people of today would have hope. Think, Why was he murdered? He was murdered because he was righteous, that is not enough to kill him, They killed him simply and only because He was a wise Blackman exposing the falsehood.
Yeshua or whatever name you choose to call was never a christian, and would spit on christianity outrightly.

Never mind bro, skin colour wont matter in Heaven. Besides, He Who is The CHRIST cannot be a follower of Himself (Christian).

gatiano:
Quit being symptomatic, except if you are a symptomatic being, then I can understand that you are incapable of seeing the real cause of things (I am not abusing or degrading you, It is just what it is).

Fine , no problem.

Now gatiano read this testimony from a convert of a missionary:

Another account of revival in East Africa...:

"We have just come from a wonderful week in the most antiwhite tribe out here, the Ababuas. What works of grace! Great, strong men, Goliaths of Gath I called them. One had killed a white man in a fight. One said that in those days six years ago, every nice woman was his animal; another, that he beat his wife like a cow. Another, that he was a slave to wine.

"Then think of hearing these great strong fellows say, ‘Prison and the whip and threats could not change us; we left and did exactly the same again. [b][size=13pt]But the blood of Jesus has power! The blood of Jesus has power! We are different men! We neither do, nor want to do what we used to! We have been born again! We have been crucified with Christ, and now Jesus lives in us!’[/size][/b]We were at four such wonderful conferences in the tribe last week with about eight hundred of them. What welcome they gave us! We might have been angels from Heaven instead of once-hated white men."

[/b]http://www.heraldofhiscoming.com/other/home.htm

gatiano:
AN AFRICA (PRICELESS MASTERPIECE) * MARY MOTHER OF GOD * MADONNA & BABY CHRIST * gold

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Dictions peculiar to catholicism.