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robosky02:
Funsho Bamgboye #7 of Nigeria celebrate with his team matesSunday, 8 November 2015

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Funsho Bamgboye #7 of Nigeria celebrate with his team mates after scoring the 2nd goal during the FIFA U-17 Men's World Cup 2015 final match between Mali and Nigeria at Estadio Sausalito on November 8, 2015 in Vina del Mar, Chile. (Photo by Martin Rose - FIFA/FIFA via Getty Images)

Proud Naija till I die ....

Wow, still looking beautiful and radiant, even at that age..

bigfrancis21:
The Edos/Binis say it differently that the word is theirs. It would be expected that the Urhobos, who are Edoid, should be more inclined towards the Edos than Yorubas

Do you have published evidence for the 'ogiso changing of names?' Because this a great distortion of facts.

How can Oba be an Edo word, yet only Benin is the only major town in Edo state (minus the Akoko-Edo axis) with a king who carries the title?
Their position is understandable though... No tribe wants to be seen as offshoots or scions of another.
As expected, the Binis have often frowned at the derivation of their cherished traditions, Including many of the gods they worship from Yorubaland.
http://www.britannica.com/topic/ogiso

bigfrancis21:
You are clearly ignorant of Edo-Yoruba history. Just because Yorubas popularly use 'oba' does not mean it is of Yoruba origin. 'oba' is a bini word and not a Yoruba word. I know this sounds surprising to you to learn this but the word originates from the binis, not Yorubas. True bini people know this. I'm going to invite NigerMan, a proud Eshan man, to school you on this.

I don't know what you mean by 'olu' being a Yoruba word. You have to give the meaning of that word you're referencing. 'olu' as a word exists in several african languages and means different things. In Igbo, 'olu' could mean 'neck', 'voice' or 'riverine people living close to the river/sea'.
Do not think you know it all. You have to keep an open mind to learning things that you don't know or correcting impressions that you thought were probably right before.

What Binis originally called their titled kings was Ogiso, not Oba.
It was Oranmiyan that changed the title from Ogiso to the Yoruba words, Oba, & Omo n'Oba n'Edo, Crowned King of the Edos.
All kings in Yorubaland are known as Oba.

Also, Olu might exist in several African languages, but the Olu of Yoruba means "Lord", the only other Languages with similar connnotations of the word are Itsekiri (Olu), and Igala (Onu)


cc: Goodboiy

Remove Benue (They've got Makurdi, Abuja route)
Rivers (They've got PH-Ugheli-Warri-Benin route)
Even Akwa Ibom can easily take Uyo-PH-Warri-Benin

At the End of the day, Anambra will be the state to suffer most from any disruption.

nduchucks:
CabbieAC ke

abi cab ti ko ni airconditioner ni bobo yen nwa ni Jersey ni?

Hhahahahhahahahaha!!
CabbieAC, see what I said at first.

Do you guyz read threads at all?
State your tribe first, then what other tribe you would like to be.
And then the reason why. (Optional)

Hhahahaha
The papa no try at all o..... The pikin is not just fat, but Obese.
With an adult's face.

Uuuuugh!!!

Poor structures and no enforcement of building codes!

wordychap:
Meaning Nigerian oil will last for d next 50yrs

At the current rate, yes.
But that doesn't mean more oil fields won't be discovered- adding to the reserves.

The state where rapists are on the loose?

Who draws these maps for christ's sake .....

I predict Nigeria winning

Eventual scoreline, NGA 2- 0 MLI

These Mexico players are Adults ooo ......

GOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAALAZOOOO!!!


!!!!!

VoslerGrimsbane:
Loooool! Who told you the hausas weren't in the picture? When did this contact occur? Smh. But we're not talking about the soninkes now are we. Is there any language similarities between you and them?

Yorubas border the Borgu (Baribas) of West Central Nigeria (Western Kwara and Northern Benin) - This area was under the Dendi kingdom of the Songhais, and that was where the Wangaras came in into Old Oyo.
You seem to think Hausaland is the only way Yorubas could have had contact with Arabs or Northern Africa... Wrong.

Feeling sleepy already, come back tomorrow.

VoslerGrimsbane:
It's possible. We were pretty awesome back in those days, we still are. Wolofs and mandes are Fulbe (Fulani) clans or closely related to them are they not?

Meanwhile, how will you explain any other African language other than hausa influencing your language. Getting to them means going through hausa states, I dont think hausas have had any proper contact with yoruba's before the 19th century.


Please, just please.... Admit the truth. Again I have no problem with you using it, but don't you dare claim precedence over it, just as Igbos don't own these words, neither do you.

The same way Yorubas had contact with Wangaras (Soninke traders), and Fulanis without Hausas being in the picture at the time.

VoslerGrimsbane:
Arabic-basl hausa Albasa Yoruba Alubosa


Arabic-naf hausa Amfani Yoruba Anfani


Arabic fatil hausa fitila Yoruba fitila

Arabic sir hausa asiri Yoruba asiri




Scholes0 care to elaborate?

MANY MANY language groups in West Africa, for example the Wolofs and Mandes call Onion Al-basa ... from Arabic
Call lamp Pitirla or Fitila, from Arabic, call secret Asiri, from the same Arabic..... You think All of West Africa copied these words from Hausa? lol

VoslerGrimsbane:
I'm not denying it. We borrowed wahl. What did you borrow, wahl or wahala?

Good!
That is a step in the right direction.

Now, are you implying that Since Hausas borrowed it from Arabic, the Yoruba usage MUST have had to come from Hausa? Because Yoruba has a lot of words borrowed from Arabic as well.

I gave you the usage the example of Camel (Rakunmi), a word Yorubas borrowed from HAUSA. The Arabic word for Camel is something entirely different.
While there are others like WAHALA (Trouble) from Arabic "Wahla", and ABERE (Needle) from Arabic "Abra" . which Yorubas borrowed directly from Arabic.

VoslerGrimsbane:
Another thread that exposes your deceit.

https://www.nairaland.com/1000371/word-wahala-it-yorubahausa-ibo


I said I can. And I will, give me a minute to put it all together

You said it yourself earlier, that Hausas borrowed Wahala from Arabic.

Phut:
Why did you claim earlier that Akamu is Yoruba word for pap?

Akamu = Pap in Igbo
Ogi is Pap in Yoruba.

You know this and yet chose to misinform people. This is how Language theft starts. 20 years from now, your children and my children will now be on the Internet arguing about the origin of Akamu

Both Akamu, Eko and Ogi mean the same thing (Pap) Yoruba.
The Usage of Ogi is more Popular, as that is Central Yoruba (CY)

The Yoruba etymology for Akamu is from "Oka" which means Corn, and "Mu" which means to drink.
I know, because right among the grannies in my village, it is called Akamu. And these people haven't been exposed to any people but Yorubas.

VoslerGrimsbane:
But I can give you a million original hausa words similar to that. And did you not say you modified it to suit your tongue because the original word isnt compatible with your language? Smh

You gave me a million Hausa words similar to "Wahla"?
Please where was that?

Phut:
O di kwa egwu.

Akamu is 100% Igbo and means pap. The Yoruba word for pap is Ogi. Surely, you know this Scholes0. This goes back to what I said before. Once a word becomes mainstream in pidgin, you guys try to claim it as Yoruba. Oyibo means White in Igbo. Igbo people even answer it as a surname.
Agidi is Igbo for cornmeal. Agidi is the word that is used in pidgin English. Egidi is irrelevant, in this context.

Carry on.

Akamu Exists in both Languages, as I have just discovered.
Same as Egidi/Agidi.

https://books.google.ca/books?id=OiynbBvMblcC&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=Akamu+Yoruba+igbo&source=bl&ots=m60pxe8hgw&sig=LulHIZcjrPGSU9nMsPOa9aLNfjw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CCsQ6AEwA2oVChMIyYjNkqb6yAIViRkeCh2bOQP5#v=onepage&q=Akamu%20Yoruba%20igbo&f=false

VoslerGrimsbane:
You my friend are a mor.on! Tell me one word in Yoruba similar to wahala. Just one.

What do you mean one more Yoruba word similar to Wahala?
the word is originally Arabic!

Phut:
But isn't it funny that you are ready and willing to accept Arabic influence, but don't acknowlege Hausa infleunce?

I am willing to accept Hausa influence, but not in the extant case. Please dont misinterprete what I am doing.
A Word like Camel, which Yorubas call Rakunmi came from Hausa, as Arabic calls it something else.

VoslerGrimsbane:
Why is it wahala, same as the Hausa variation? When our languages are as different as they come? Even when you say it, when it drops out your tongue, does it sound Yoruba to you? Wmh

Wahla as it is in Arabic, as a word can't exist in Yoruba...... So it adapted to a local variation.
I already explained that to you or maybe you don't wan't to see it.

For you information there are many other words that exist in Yoruba, which came from Arabic without any Hausa contact.
I am done with this argument.

VoslerGrimsbane:
Doki is a hausa word. Not Arabic. Loool!

You are just blindly defending your language.

I am okay with admitting we got from words from Arabic, Heck I can equally claim they stole from us. But I didn't.

I don't argue with blind men. You can about deluding yourself and believing whatever the F.uck you want to believe.

Doki is Hausa
Yoruba is Esin, which comes from Arabic "Hesan" direct.
What makes it so hard for you that Wahala could also be from Arabic into Yoruba?

Logic isnt your forte.

VoslerGrimsbane:
Because we had horses before Arabian contact, they're indigenous to Hausa, they're a very important part of our culture, so we have a word for it, "doki". But horses aren't indigenous to you, so you don't have a word for it. You usually just look for the Hausa Arabic variation but in this case there's none so you went with that. You can have it.

So, why didn't the Hausas who supposedly are the only people through which Arabic words can travel didn't introduce the Horse to the Yorubas as "Doki"?
Why do Yorubas call it something different from YOUR PEOPLE? It simply proves that Arabic words can be found in Other West African languages, and Hausa is not the only West African language with Arabic originated words in it.

VoslerGrimsbane:
Smh, Day light language robbery. Lmao

What do you call Horse?
How come the Yoruba got their word for Horse from Arabic and you didnt?

VoslerGrimsbane:
But you got it from us, not directly from the Arabs. The Arabic word is wahl, Hausa word is Wahala. Why is yours also wahala? Why is it so hard for you to just admit the truth? Lool! You can even claim wahl if you want but wahala is not yours.

We got many words from Arabic and adapted them locally.
Same way we got 'Esin' from Arabic 'Hesan' , which means Horse. While you guyz call is "DOKI"... very different.
That both words exist in Yoruba and Hausa does not mean we got it from You. Although, I wouldn't rule out the possibility.

nwanlecha:
Just as there are tons of Yoruba people, who speak Igbo too. As for my earlier comment, we in the East consider Yoruba language to be too harsh to the ears, that's why we call it 'ngbatigbati' language. We don't consider it desirable and I see it as an insult for someone to say that I speak it. There are several Nigerian languages that are pleasing to the ears and Yoruba is definitely not one of them.
Pls y'all should stop mentioning me in this silly thread, it's getting annoying.

I am not arguing that there are no Yoruba people who don't speak Igbo, but I wouldn't go as far as saying: "What is my business as a Westerner with Igbo of all languages, It is an insult to say a Yoruba person would speak Igbo". That is what you are doing, and that is simply "blind and stupid pride"
See Igbo person saying Yoruba is Harsh to the Hears.. Hhahahahaha
..... Yoruba as a language is free flowing, while speaking Igbo alone can make a Yoruba person bite his tongue every time, develop extra muscles around the mouth if he/she hasn't been speaking it from birth.
Ask a neutral observer about which of the two languages is harsher/easier.

VoslerGrimsbane:
Ps, I'm not igbo. I'm just protecting the language of my forefathers from thieves like you.


Doing exactly what you accuse the Igbos of doing.

Wahala is not yours! Period!

Wahla is a word that has its roots in Arabic.
It is as simple as that.