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kettykin:
If you know any you can mention so that people can check it out, nairaland also helps people get information about cities just in case they visit those cities.

Are you not the same person who created a thread about Delta oil wells being ceded to Ondo state when it is a lie?

Anyways, search for 5 and 4 star hotels in Lagos, Ibadan, PH etc on Jovago, Tripadvisor, Hotwire or Lonely planet.
You don't expect a random forumer on the internet to be the one feeding you information, when you have countless online sources at your beck and call.

kettykin:
Lagos having 22, 5star hotels is over exaggerated and unnecessary not true.
There is no 5 star hotel in ibadan, non that I know.

yeah, because you said so.....

kettykin:
You can back your arguments with facts

Many cities in Nigeria have far better hotels than Enugu.
check page 1.

all4naija:
If that is the moost beautiful hotel in Nigeria that country is in for the worse! That hotel is not even on a class of 3 star! Jeez!

I know, right!

Don't mind the silly OP who has never been out of his enclave, that is nowhere near the most beautiful hotel in Nigeria.

kettykin:
Apart from Eko lemeridien in Vi and Nicon Hilton which other hotel is more exotic than this.

this is a statement one would expect to get from someone who is ignorant about the Nigerian hospitality sector.

Udmaster:
go back to ur rusted roof ibadan.

Don't worry, that "rusted roof Ibadan" has more demand, better hotels, in larger quantity than Nike Lake resort, Enugu

https://s20.postimg.org/rk1r02b8t/Screen_Shot_2015_11_04_at_6.jpg

Udmaster:
no, it look Exotic and Charming.
You tribal marked ewedu eating bunkom.

lol.... Exotic get levels.
What is exotic in one man's backyard is crap in another man's arena.
I am not in the mood for tribal slurs this morning. Ediat, I thought when normal people create threads asking questions, they are seeking public opinion. But you aren't normal, are you.

Did you say I should go back to my 'rusted roof Ibadan' ?

Udmaster:
go back to ur rusted roof ibadan.

Don't worry, that "rusted roof Ibadan" has more demand, better hotels, in larger quantity than your Nike Lake resort, Enugu

https://s20.postimg.org/rk1r02b8t/Screen_Shot_2015_11_04_at_6.jpg

Udmaster:
your Igbophobia is eating you up.. Oya shift.

Everyrhing na "Igbophobia" to you people....
can't you reason with your brains for once?

How can this be the most beautiful hotel in Nigeria?
The room, conference hall and reception look so cheap.

For where .... ?
I can count 15 hotels off heart in Lagos, Abuja, Uyo, Ibadan, Port harcourt, Calabar, and even within that same Enugu, that are better that this.
Travel more, OP.

ezeagu:
The Fula also has the same similarity then, but taking everything into account, the feature in Igbo is another link in the chain of similarity with Bantu people, or more specifically, people in Southern Cameroons. The Anambra groups don't have as much direct link with the Southern Cameroons, but their culture, taking out any Benin or Igala influence is more like the people of Southern Cameroons, Cross River than anything else. Western Igbo is probably the youngest migration and they've been influenced by Benin.

Kru people seem to be more like Ijaw.

It would surprise you to know that southern cameroonians don't really look Igbo. Visit Bamenda.

and Kru more like Igbo to me than Ijaw o.

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ezeagu:
The languages are prefixed in a similar way in the sense that they use n- and m- as prefixes in words.

Atlantic languages have plenty of that.

The Fulfulde word for water is Ndiyam, Freedom is Ndimaaku, girl is Mbomri, Doing is Mbaadi etc. Not to even mention that these nasal consonants at the begining of these languages hav completely different purposes. That is what I mean by superficial 'alikeness'

ezeagu:
The fact that Bantu cultures are different is the point. I never ruled out proximity being a reason, so they do have similarity. The Ekpe society is the main initiation rites in culture it is found. The masks of the groups and Igbo are similar, the dressing is similar although Igbo people used more of their own Akwete cloth. The features are similar especially among groups like Bamileke and Tikar, and they've historically had more interaction and knowledge of each other than they've had with groups on the west of the Niger.

Maybe for Ebonyi/Abia groups you would be right, but can you say the same for Anambra/Anambra/Delta groups?

By the way, check out the Krou peoples' cultures of South Western Cote D'ivoire, which in my opinion is much more similar to Igbo culture than Tikar or any Cameroonian group. This similarity thing is honestly all in the head for the most part.

ezeagu:
That's why Bantu is just a language classification, because [b]Igbo culture has more in common with Bamileke Tikar culture [/b]than some Volta-Niger languages

Expanciate. How?
The use of masks? masquerades? Building? Initiation rites? Historical nakednešs and semi-nüdity? ..... ?

ezeagu:
but both have less to do with some Bantu cultures, but in general there's more commonality with Igbo and Bantu cultures. That tie is strengthened further by the Ekpe/Egbo masquerading mens society that dominated the Grassland and eastern Igbo areas.

There is no specific Bantu culture. Kikuyu culture is drastically different from Zulu culture. which are in turn both different from Angolan culture. And they are all Bantu speaking people. If there are traces of Ekpe among grassland cameroonians, it is as a result of the geographical proximity between them and the Cross Riverian groups, than anything else.

ezeagu:
Igbo prefixing is similar to Bantu languages.

It is not. You may want to talk about similarity in the way some few words look superficially between Igbo and any Bantu language of your choice, i.e 'Emeka or Ngozi' , but nothing to do with structures of these languages.

pazienza:
....

I meant to say Ndokwa.

ezeagu:
Well, it's not just features, it's culture and to a certain extent language (the prefixing of Bantu languages are similar to Igbo, e.g Ngondo, Ngozi, etc).



No, they are mostly like grasslands Cameroonians and loosely like those in Gabon. The grassland Cameroonians are not like the Tivi either, their ancient culture all looks similar though.

But Grassland Cameroonians are Bantoid / SemiBantus. That is where the Tikar and Bamileke reside.
Mambilla culture of Taraba state and Tikar culture are very similar.
The Igbo sentence structuring is completely different from that of Bantu languages. Igbo is a Volta-Niger language, not a Benue-Congo language

pazienza:
Nothing like Igboid.
The Igboid language is divided into two. Igbo language and Ekpeye language.

Both Igbo and Ekpeye are the Igboid languages.
The rest Fall under Igbo, while Ekpeye has no sub classification, it stands alone and has cognation score of 76.34% when compared to Onicha Igbo.

Well , there is an Igbo proper within the Igbo group of Igboid languages. And then the others like Ikwerre , Ogba, and Ndoki.

Ezeagu, go and check any genetic plot of African peoples. Igbos and Yorubas cluster very closely together, while Bantus in their diversity tend to form groups with a considerable gap from the two former.

ezeagu:
And Onitsha's 'cosmopolitan' origin shows that with Igbo, Benin, and Igala influence and ancestry. But the Igbo in the bulk are more like the Tikar than other westerly Nigerian groups.

Are the Igbos a lot like the Tivs / Jukuns?
they are the most bantoid thing we have in Nigeria and should be genetically close to the tikars.

ezeagu:
This is a Tikar man from Cameroon.

Ezeagu, I don't want to descend into a picture frenzy, but I can sincerely find you a group of pictures of mostly people from any two parts of equatorial Africa who look alike. As far as I can tell, most cameroonians I have seen don't really look Nigerian or Igbo.

ezeagu:
Bantu isn't just a language classification, okay well it is, but it has come to also mean a group of people with a similar kind of culture stemming from the spread of the languages, just like Germanic and other language families, it now has an ethnic affiliation. I don't know what semi-Bantu means but it's obvious the Igbo people have more in common with 'Bantu' peoples especially in Cameroon than with other West African peoples for example, while groups like the Yoruba have more in common with Fongbe, Ewe, and maybe even Mande people.

Bantu is synonymous with Indo-European
It is a language classification, but it can also be a race or meta-ethnicity composed of many ethnic groups , depending on how you want to look at it. Do you even know the Igbos are not really situated in the real East of Nigeria per-se? A place like Onitsha is smack dab in the centre of its south.
Yorubas as a people are diverse, and are related to many things. I don't know about Mande (Highly unlikely, but definitely Igala, Edo, and Ewe / Fon-gbe like u mentioned)

Obiagu1:
You're right, some text would say Igbos are semi-bantu, others proto-bantu, while some would say mixed with bantu.

The fact is that the Igbo are related to bantus/semi-bantus.

see, you keep making the mistake.
Bantu isn't a race, so you can't be mixed with bantu. But your language can show some attributes of a Bantu language.
The Bantu language expansion started somewhere around the Jukun / Mambila / Tikar / Bamileke homeland (Which is around the Taraba/Adamaoua/North-West province of Nigeria and Caemeroon)

Deltagiant:
Bantu or not, i don't think it is of any political economic and social value to Igbo people. It is not in their strategic interest as far as I know.

Though many Igbos find more commonalities with the people of southern Cameroon and central Africa than with some groups in Nigeria, even physical attributes.

Obiagu did not coin the word "semi bantu". It came from scholarly works of several international historians and linguists including G. I Jones. Igbos have long been mentioned as "semi Bantus", for whatever it means. My Congolese friends always reminds me that 'Ibos' of Nigeria are related to them. No surprise most of the African support for the Biafrans during the war came from Bantoid countries - Gabon, Zambia, Tanzania etc
[url][https://books.google.be/books?id=ZEO5lLG95lMC&pg=PA145&lpg=PA145&dq=semi+bantu%2Bibo&source=bl&ots=EM66n6_18v&sig=QQspzWqUFKJ8og2_iCcDuF7YZLY&hl=nl&sa=X&ved=0CDkQ6AEwBGoVChMIjrLyzLX1yAIVwwoaCh1sMwZ3#v=onepage&q=semi%20bantu%2Bibo&f=false/url]

I am simply saying igbos are not Bantoid, which is simply a language classification. I know Obiagu didn't coin the word.
When your Congolese friend says Ibos of Nigeria are related to them, did you ever bother asking why or how?
people say those kind of things a lot.

pazienza:
Just as Arochukwu reeks of Efik and Nsukka reeks of Igala.

Igbo is a diverse group.

But the fundamentals remain the same.

http://www.usafricaonline.com/fjellah2005.html

I don tire for una, pazienza.
Where do you draw the line between Igbo and Igboid language speaking groups?

pazienza:
They rightly claim Yoruba because there are no external forces at play, trying to give them a distinct identity.

Eze Ogba, Ogbuehi Francis Ellah and his supporters in Ogba Maintained that Ogba is a branch of the Igbo ethnic group, but the breakaway groups were financed and encouraged to grow by the FG, they frustrated Francis Ellah throughout his stay on the throne, and immediately replaced him with an Igbophobic New Eze, who changed his throne to Oba from Eze.

'These same Ogbas??
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These people reek of Edo to me.

Obiagu1:
Semi-bantu groups include Igbos, Ibibios, Cameroonians, equ. Guineans and Gabonese.

Stop it!
Igbos are never semi-bantu.
Cameroonians are both Bantu and Bantoid groups. Like the Bamileke are Bantoid speaking, while groups like the Fang are completely Bantu speaking
Equatorial Guineans and Gabonese are fully fledged Bantu language speakers.

It seems you want to be Bantu or bantoid so soo bad. lol

Obiagu1:
Biafrans are a semi -bantoid group.

which of the Biafrans?
the ones who call themselves that in Nigeria, or the original Biafrans, who are mostly Bantu and Adamawa speaking groups from Central Africa?

Obiagu1:
The original Biafra would have been better for the Igbo than with the Hausa and Yoruba, people we have no interactions, connections, culture nor relationship with. The British really messed up.
I think Nigeria is the greatest injustice to Africa by the Europeans!

If a country comprising current Biafra, Cameroon (minus the Hausas), Equitorial Guinea and Gabon was created instead, it would have been awesome. We are all bantoid.

Your language is not Bantoid, the Tiv language is. And Bantu is just a language grouping, which Igbo does not fall into.
When did Igbos become Bantoid?

chuna1985:
Ur map is false, dubious and nonsensical.
Igbos have a direct access to the sea, educate Ur self with a real map.

lol
Where is the access point?

Owo ti Jona!!

guyz stop all this rubbish na ...

YourNemesis:
What I love about this thread is the way it destroys all the Igbo lies in just one swoop.
Next time I hear that Phrase "our Igbo or South East oil" again ehn ...... lol
shameless liars.

lol

totit:
Oh please shhhh omo ibo
Must you lie to cover up

That guy is not omo ibo, he is Itsekiri, A brother.